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Offline adnaanshaikh195

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A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« on: May 21, 2013, 08:14:26 PM »
Ask a Shiite if you meet one:

 " You claim that Aisha did adultery and betrayed the Prophet (Peace and blessings be upon him), so why didn't Allah warn the prophet of this like he warned Lut (peace be upon him) of his wife and the same with Noah and his son that was drowned? (I think that's right). "

What do you guys think?

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 05:30:47 AM »
Astaqforollah

i am not a shia or sunni but i am living among shias,i have never seen a shia says that Aisha committed Adultry

Please stop this shia or sunni thing

believe me Hindus are laughing at us.

KOS OMAHOM SHIA,KOS OMAHOM SUNNI

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 05:55:39 AM »
Astaqforollah

i am not a shia or sunni but i am living among shias,i have never seen a shia says that Aisha committed Adultry

Please stop this shia or sunni thing

believe me Hindus are laughing at us.

KOS OMAHOM SHIA,KOS OMAHOM SUNNI

stop being a party pooper. it's fun watching xP

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 06:55:17 AM »
Astaqforollah

i am not a shia or sunni but i am living among shias,i have never seen a shia says that Aisha committed Adultry

Please stop this shia or sunni thing

believe me Hindus are laughing at us.

KOS OMAHOM SHIA,KOS OMAHOM SUNNI
http://islamic-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=12416

Offline QuranSearchCom

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 08:12:53 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear Brothers and Sisters,

Personally, I firmly believe that while our Hadiths collections contain much Truth in them about the Prophet and others, but I also believe that they contain conspiracies and lies inserted by the enemies of Islam from within.  These are the hypocrites and the liars.  Stories such as the following I personally completely reject because they also go against the Glorious Quran:

1-  The Prophet got bewitched and lost his memory for a whole YEAR because of it.  The bewitchment happened by a Jew stealing a piece of hair from the Prophet, cursed it, and placed it under a rock.  And as a result, the Prophet lost his memory and started speaking nonsense for a whole year?  I mean come on EVERYONE!  When was the last time you've heard of such crime being done on people TODAY??  Go ahead and try it on me or on yourself.  Steal a piece of hair from me and try to do it on me, and let's see what happens.  This also goes against all of the Noble Verses where Allah Almighty assured that the Prophet was not delusional and crazy and mad.  More on this coming up, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

2-  Aisha used to breast suckle adults.  This whole suckling of adults is a SICK LIE invented by the hypocrites.  Since they couldn't defeat Islam as a whole, their best attack was to inject poisons of this kind into our Hadiths.  The Glorious Quran is CRYSTAL CLEAR ABOUT BREAST FEEDING being allowed only for babies, and is compulsory upon the mother (if she has milk for the whole period) for two full years.  Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/breast_feeding.htm.

The infidels say in our narrations that MISSING VERSES FROM THE QURAN allowed for the suckling of the adults.  This was a Law, but the goat ate the scroll that contained these verses.  Here is the refutation to this:

1-  It was COMPULSORY upon all Muslims back then, as it is today, to memorize and preserve as much of the Holy Quran as possible.

2-  It is compulsory upon every Muslims (if he or she can) read the entire Holy Quran at least once during the Holy Month of Ramadan.

3-  It is compulsory upon every Muslim Imam to read the ENTIRE QURAN during the five daily sets of Prayers in stages or portions.

Here is where you can easily detect a lie injected into our narrations collections:  When you hear garbage such as a verse used to say such and such was part of the Quran, but no longer is, know that this is a LIE FROM HELL!  The reason for this is these infidels never give the actual text of the alleged verse!

WHAT DID THE ALLEGED VERSES SAY ABOUT SUCKLING OF ADULTS?  DOES ANYBODY HAVE THEIR TEXT?  No.  Just empty claims that they used to exist, but were eaten by the goat.  But the Muslims were massively big, as they are today in the Muslim world, on memorizing and preserving the Holy Quran!!  So how could any liar just make an empty claim?  It's clearly a conspiracy and a lie injected.

If you want to defeat the polytheist and zionist shiism and the other infidels' attacks on Islam completely, then you MUST FIRST remove the invented garbage from the vast collections of Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him).  Otherwise, it's the same old cycle.

It's amazing that we have a great collection of amazing Prophecies by the Prophet, peace be upon him, and wonderful wisdoms and morality in his Hadiths, and at the same time, we have this poison injected by the infidels on him and on some of his companions.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2014, 02:20:58 PM »
And regarding the betwitchment point, please visit this more-thorough post: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1166.msg4047.html#msg4047.

And as I said before, this is why what agrees with the Holy Quran from both the Hadiths and also the Bible and other Scriptures we accept as closest to the Truth, but not absolute Truth like the Holy Quran, and what disagrees with the Holy Quran we reject.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2014, 07:05:47 PM »
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« Last Edit: January 28, 2014, 12:13:54 AM by alimosawi »

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 02:59:43 AM »
It is true from some groups of shia to claim so . The same ones who declare that the companions are are apostates .

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KOS OMAHOM SHIA,KOS OMAHOM SUNNI
Apparently , I'm the only one here who knows what this mean and thus they don't response . Well , screw you too .



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stop being a party pooper. it's fun watching xP
Seriously , don't you have a life to attend ? Atheists talk about how believers don't leave them alone and then you find them spamming the internet like this .

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Personally, I firmly believe that while our Hadiths collections contain much Truth in them about the Prophet and others, but I also believe that they contain conspiracies and lies inserted by the enemies of Islam from within.  These are the hypocrites and the liars.  Stories such as the following I personally completely reject because they also go against the Glorious Quran:
Seriously , we've gone through this for a while and I guess it's still no use . Let me ask : You say that you refuse some narrations because they apparently contradict Quran , so what are you going to say to someone who doesn't believe in Quran ? They'd just say you refuse something correct because it proves your religion wrong . A sincere advice : Study a little about the science of narrations and don't just rush to call what you don't understand a conspiracy and a lie .

P.S : The thing of breastfeeding the adult is indeed incorrect and forged .

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2014, 04:51:01 AM »
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« Last Edit: January 28, 2014, 12:14:54 AM by alimosawi »

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2014, 06:39:07 AM »
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I also know that there are a group of Sunni who says suicide Bombing "IN ANY CASE" are allowed.
They hold no evidence to their claim the same way those shia don't . That's why we bring forth proof . Anyway , check the other thread .

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2014, 06:39:21 AM »
We seriously need to have an RSV version of the Hadith and remove the discrepancies

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2014, 08:31:48 AM »
We already do .

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2014, 03:48:29 PM »
We already do .

We already don't.  I've already shown a few examples about the blasphemies and conspiracies that exist in the hadiths collections:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1166.msg4047.html#msg4047

This is why, and it's also according to the Holy Quran, what agrees with the Holy Quran stays, and what disagrees with the Holy Quran gets thrown out in the garbage.  Visit the link above for ample more details and proofs.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2014, 06:58:39 PM »
We already do .

We already don't.  I've already shown a few examples about the blasphemies and conspiracies that exist in the hadiths collections:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1166.msg4047.html#msg4047

This is why, and it's also according to the Holy Quran, what agrees with the Holy Quran stays, and what disagrees with the Holy Quran gets thrown out in the garbage.  Visit the link above for ample more details and proofs.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

AsalamuAlaikum,

No offense brother but your misunderstanding has simply arisen from a lack of understanding of Usool Al-Hadeeth. Take what you posted in the link. Its been answered countless times before:

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/the_variant_on_the_valley_of_riches

With a basic understanding of Usool Al-Hadeeth and cross referencing narrations you have the simple answers.

And as for all the other things you mentioned its all explained countless times years ago by scholars.

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/the_quranic_verse_on_stoning

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/quranic_variant__missing_verse_on_suckling_

We already do .

Yes we do brother. Its called Usool Al-Hadeeth. Distinguishing the Mawdu from the Sahih. Alhamdulillah.


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Re: A question which should leave Shiites speachless
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