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My rebuttal to Jochen Katz on "Exposed Lies of the Answering Islam team":
This article is a rebuttal to Mr. Jochen Katz at: http://www../Responses/Osama/exposed_lies.htm. Below, I will show his inconsistencies and dishonesty in refusing to respond to obvious misbehaviors and dishonest work that I showed with proofs done by some members of his team. Mr. Katz' intentional refusal to confront the proofs I presented and calling them "this diatribe as irrelevant" clearly proves that he is not always a trustworthy person.
Note: I have written a response to Jochen Katz's rebuttal to this article at: My response to Jochen Katz rebuttal to my article "Exposing the Cheap lies of the Answering Islam team".
Osama Abdallah claims on this page to expose the lies of "Answering Islam". From the beginning the first priority of Answering Islam has been to present in honesty and sincerety what we are convinced to be true. We invite everyone to point out mistakes on our site so that we can correct them. Over the years we have received a good measure of feedback and it has helped us to improve the site and correct some points where we have erred.
This might be true in regards to much of the contents of your site, but as I will show below, there are specific points where you showed to be intentionally untruthful.
Osama Abdallah has NEVER attempted to contact us in order to tell us that we made an error and request correction on it based on our promise. Instead, he charges us with lying.
Mr. Katz, I not only contacted you and never got any response, but I also posted your deceptions on my site publicly so everyone would see what I am talking about.
The liars of the "Answering Islam" team claimed that brother Qais Ali had left Islam. Qais Ali is a personal friend of mine. Not only he and I were involved in debates on Excite's Message boards and America Online Islamic Chat Rooms, but I also know him in person. We honest to GOD Almighty spoke on the phone.
Qais never left Islam!. It was a cheap Christian liar who named himself "Qais Ali" and said all kinds of negative things about Islam. He is obviously a member of the "Answering Islam" team since they were so swift in posting the lie about brother Qais Ali leaving Islam. They obviously were monitoring the fake Qais Ali and documented his lies. They had a plan.
Qais Ali was an intelligent, talented and very active Muslim debater in AOL chatrooms (several years ago). Together with a friend of his, Rami A., he also designed several Muslim websites with polemics against Christians. Qais Ali was the driving force behind it, he designed the content, Rami was seemingly the webmaster. We had created a rebuttal section to his sites while Qais Ali was still an active Muslim debater (this page).
I personally was never on AOL. Friends of mine were regularly present on these AOL debate boards and chatrooms and knew him well. One day, Qais Ali suddenly switched sides in the debates and for months operated with anti-Islamic arguments. He had not become a Christian at that time, but he had clearly left Islam. My friends informed me about this turn of events and I placed the "Update:" comment on our rebuttal page to his Islamic material. This comment has been there for many years, and Qais Ali never complained about it.
So now you are not relying on resources that you personally know are truthful, but instead, you rely on your "friends". Who are these friends? What AOL chat rooms were they in? I used to be a heavy debater on AOL during the times to posted this lie about brother Qais Ali. I was under "Plstine1" and your friends Silas and Timothy Ibrahim knew me well. I also was in many Islamic emailing lists. I never once saw or heard about brother Qais Ali leaving Islam. Care to give us some proofs such as quotes?
Do you have quotes of brother Qais Ali attacking Islam? If so, how come you never posted them publicly? You're so good in posting things of this kind on your site Mr. Katz, why not this time? So now after the dust settled, all you have is mere statements from your so-called "friends" and you consider that as the solid proof. I honestly doubt that there were "friends" to begin with that supposedly saw brother Qais Ali doing anything like that. Your lack of giving solid proofs such as quotes (as you always do in your articles) clearly proves that you are full of deceptions.
In regards to brother Qais Ali never complaining about it. How do we know he never did? You never presented the proof against him to begin with! Now you want the proof that supports him? I lost communication with brother Qais Ali in a very long time, but by the Will and Mercy of Allah Almighty I will get it back, and when I do, I will further prove you to be a liar and deceiver.
One cannot just hijack somebody else's user-ID on AOL and speak under their name. These IDs are password protected. Even if somebody should have been able to hack his account, Qais Ali would only have had to contact AOL customer service to get it back and protect it with a new password. No, there was nobody else operating under his name and speaking against Islam. Qais Ali could easily have prevented this. This was going on for a long time.
You have not presented a single quote from brother Qais Ali's supposed comments of deserting Islam. His ID might not have been hijacked at all Mr. Katz. It's not his ID that is hijacked here. It's the falsehood and deception that is coming out of you that is hijacking the Truth.
Furthermore, from this time on, his website has never been updated again. If he still is a Muslim, why has he never protested himself, why has his site suddenly fallen stagnant and much of it is not working anymore at all?
Brother Rami Abdallah also did not update that site. Does this make Rami an apostate as well? Not everyone is a lifeless weirdo like you and your team members. People do have lives and daily business that needs to be taken care of. It's obvious that brother Rami and Qais had refuted enough of your material that they feel no more need to continue to every single detail, as this will take a life time of work; something is not worth doing for you and your clowns.
No, Osama Abdallah's proposed scenario is exceedingly silly. If our comment was wrong, we will gladly correct our site, IF Qais Ali would contact us himself. Until then, it is more likely Osama who is making things up, and swearing to be honest is not making it any more credible.
Until you remain consistent and present at least a single quote about brother Qais Ali deserting Islam as you did before in other topics and scenarios on your site, then your whole argument is weak.
Second lie: ...
His so-called "second lie" presents a whole lot of accusations, but lacking solid proof. Most importantly, none of it has even the slightest connection with anything published on the site www.., so that I will skip this diatribe as irrelevant. On to the next one.
Mr. Katz, you really crack me up from laughing! You know, you're not only a liar, but you're also a goofy with all due respect to the reader. You bluntly ignored the clear and irrefutable proof that clearly shows some of your team members as evil doers and deceivers who send email bombs and possibly forged emails as well, and decided to simply skip it and ignore it as if you were the judge who we're all supposed to listen to and follow.
You're obviously not only full of stupidity, but also arrogance! For the reader's convenience, I will paste the "Second Lie" section here (which contains images that clearly prove this team's evil doing) and show how much of a coward and liar Mr. Katz really is:
Here is the section:
It had come to my attention that a member of the "Answering Islam" team had posted fake personal quotes of mine that supposedly prove that I am a racist and a hater to blacks and Jews.
The liar who is called Quennel Gale is the member that I am referring to. He and I met on the ldjnet Message Board that no longer exists, and he repeatedly posted stuff under my name to confuse the reader.
The Message board did not require any login id. All you had to do is go to their web site at www.ldjnet.com/islam (which no longer exists), click on "Enter Forum", and you will be inside the board. You can either read what's posted in there, or you can post a new topic/response by simply clicking on either "Start a new topic" or "Respond to topic", enter your (1) Name, (2) Email address, (3) Topic description and then (4) The contents of your post.
One thing that is very good on that message board was, it allowed you to see the Internet IP Address of the post. Quennel Gale had so many of those Internet IP Addresses (because he posted from work, home and school and other places), and he also had many fake Characters such as "Muhammad Ibn Elohim", "Quennel Gale", "TAQ", "Osama Abdallah", etc...
This liar from the team of "Answering Islam" typed in my name "Osama Abdallah", and my email address "Osama Abdallah" and posted all kinds of garbage. He obviously had a plan since you can see all of his fake Osama's posts listed on his site under the topic "Osama's hate for everyone". This liar posted lies under my name and now he has them listed on his site to make me look bad and racist. I am not responsible for everyone who names himself as "Osama Abdallah" on Message Boards. He obviously had a plan like the rest of the cheap "Answering Islam" team. He did it, and now he has it posted on his site.
This coward also uses an "Email Bomb" software against me. I often receive 50 to 100 emails from him all having the same "Subject". I also receive "death threats" emails which grammar look identical to his. Although I can't really prove it was him, but the writing style does look similar.
This is a small sample of this cowards emails that he keeps sending
to me. The above image contains only 10 emails from the 143 emails that he sent
to my AOL Account that I have listed on my main page. I captured this "JPG" file after deleting
most of his junk emails.
Here is another image of email floods that I receive from Christian losers like
Quennel Gale and his Answering Islam team. I captured this image when I
checked my AOL email via the internet. This loser sent me 188 junk emails.
It's funny how I received an email bomb from a different email address after I
blocked Quennel Gale's "email@example.com" address.
Quennel Gale is one of the active members of the Answering Islam team. I wonder why does he have to use this kind of cheap tactic to defend his Trinity belief. He is obviously frustrated and feels quite helpless to refute my material. That's why he cowardly tries to bombard my emails. I wonder if he'll ever respond to this one.
Just a quick note: We don't see him mentioning that he likes to be a vandalistic and do things against people even if these things are against his own religion on his web site, do we? No where on his web site do we see any mention of his bombardments on people's emails, do we? Mr. Gale, I wonder why you decided to hide this fact about yourself to the public? He makes up many lies against me, and he is a liar by nature. So please watch out from his writings.
Another quick note: We don't see the him nor his team giving me credit for (1) Linking their claims to my Responds to the so called Errors in the Noble Quran; (2) Nor we see them giving me credit for linking Christian Responds to the Errors in the Bible; (3) Nor we see them giving me credit for Posting Christian Responds to the articles of my site. They claim that I fear this loser Quennel Gale. Why should I link to a loser who uses foul languages in his articles against our beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and puts cheap lies that he made up against me and other Muslim brothers. I enjoy debating good Christians. But I dislike very much debating silly losers like Quennel Gale and his cheap team. I have reasons for refusing to give certain losers popularity. I am most concerned with his masters (Answering Islam), and I have them linked on my site. I am not obligated to link to everyone. Beside, why should I link to him when he sends me email bombs.
Unlike him, I don't provide fake dead internet URL links to bogus fake claims, nor do I log in as other people and write all kinds of garbage and claim that it's theirs as he always does to the Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") that he can't refute. Nor do I email people with other email addresses and use foul language and pretend to be somebody else as he always does. I provide PROOFS to prove how much of a pathetic liar he is. I decided to block his email address. It pains me to not get a chance to lead him and his associates to the light of Islam, but unfortunately, it is just too costly for me to keep receiving this kind of junk from the cheap Answering Islam team.
CARE TO RESPOND TO THIS ONE MR. KATZ?
The following was an email sent to me by brother Shakoor Ahmed; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
"Also, answering-islam team are spreading further lies by claiming that Dr. Maurice Bucaille the author of the book The Quran, Bible and Science never became Muslim and the book was a hoax. However, this is not true, He did embrace Islam and he wrote another book called What is the Origin of Man? and produced a video called book of signs. You can read an interview with the author at the following site http://www.islamicbulletin.org/Issue-Jan92-Embraced.html. Please expose this devious lie of answering-islam's team."
I carefully researched the issue of his alleged conversion before I published this page on Dr. Bucaille. To this day NO solid evidence has been presented to me that would prove that Dr. Bucaille converted to Islam. I visited and carefully read the above referenced page (actually, the address is wrong, it is: http://www.islamicbulletin.org/issues/Jan92/Issue-Jan92-Embraced.html). What does it actually say? Here is the relevant part:
Q: Have you embraced Islam?
A: I wanted to make it quite clear in the very beginning that even before I learnt the first letter of Bismillah, I was convinced that God was unique and all- powerful and when God guided me to undertake a study of the Quran, my inner soul cried out that Al- Quran was the Word of God revealed to his Last Prophet Mohammed (S.A.W.).
In my book "Quran, Bible and Science," I have mentioned these facts and the book has met with instant success in the entire Christian world. In this book I have devoted myself to discuss all problems from purely academic angle, rather than that of faith or belief which would have revealed only my personal convictions. This was because I desired to be treated by the world as an academician rather than a theologian. About my faith and belief, God knows what is in one's heart. I am convinced that if I identify myself with any creed, people will invariably dub me as one belonging to such and such group and feel that whatever I say or do, I do so from only the angle of such and such creed group. I know my fellow beings very well and understand their mentality only too well. I wanted to assure them that all my pronouncements are based on scientific knowledge and not on any religious dogmas.
Bucaille was asked a very clear question, but he is waffling around. It would have been very easy to do, but he does NOT answer this question with YES. Many Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") may happily assume that he is a Muslim now, but he did not say so. Bucaille is talking like a real diplomat so that in the end everyone can assume he agrees with them. The Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") can assume he converted, and to everyone else he can say: Did I ever say so? Bucaille loves to please the Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") who made him rich and famous without really making any commitment.
The question remains: Which Muslim has ever heard Dr. Bucaille recite the Shahada? Has he ever been seen doing the Muslim prayers? Where? When? If he were a Muslim, there must be a mosque where worships and where he goes for Friday prayers. Where? Absolute silence on these questions.
This interview certainly did not reveal any new insights in the question of Dr. Bucaille's current religious practice. Certainly no foundation to label us liars because of our page on Bucaille.
Dr. Bucaille is one of these Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"):
"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.' If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") (bowing to Allah's Will).' (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"
He believes in Allah Almighty as the One True Living GOD Almighty. Further more, he did believe that the Noble Quran was from Allah Almighty:
Q: What are your views about the Quran in this behalf?
A: Now this is a matter of entirely a different nature. All scholars of the Quran are unanimous that the Quran is the " Word of God" as revealed to His Last Prophet Mohammed (S.A.W.) through Gabriel (The Holy Ghost). I have studied the Book (Quran)very carefully and have not come across one single instance of scientific fallacy any where in it. On the contrary, i have felt that the (higher) truths and realities inherent in Quranic Text have been, throughout the history of 1400 years, beyond the comprehension of ordinary human beings which in itself, is positive proof that the Quran is the Word of God and it is (at places) beyond intellectual potential of mortal man; be he an excellent scholar or philosopher of the highest calibre, who is not always able to explain the inherent realities of nature as revealed in the Quran. What obviously conflicts with scientific truth is the assumption of the Bible that although life erupted in the form of various species, which have endured, there has been no evolution or improvement in their functions. On the other hand according to the Quran, Man has transgressed through gigantic changes in the course of the entire history of humanity. I felt it very necessary to inform the Christians of the world of this very serious discrepancy in the Bible. As it happen to be impartial, truthful and very outspoken in my studies, I have been repeatedly called upon from time to time to express my views regarding these matters before distinguished gatherings. On all such occasions, I have always dealt with the subject from the scientific point of view, ignoring the ecclesiastic or theological context. Whatever has appeared to be dubious or fit for further investigation, I have tried to put it on the touchstone of criticism and have not allowed to pass it unchallenged.
What Dr. Bucaille is doing is he is taking Islam from a philosophical perspective. He reminds me of my former philosophy professor. He too took Islam from the philosophical angle. The Noble Quran did talk about folks like this. Allah Almighty said:
"....thus do We explain the Signs in detail for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran, 10:24)"
"....verily in that are Signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran, 30:21)"
"....verily in this are Signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran, 39:42)"
"And He has subjected to you, as from Him, all that is in the heavens and on earth: Behold, in that are Signs indeed for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran, 45:13)"
"Had We sent down this Quran on a mountain, verily, thou wouldst have seen it humble itself and cleave asunder for fear of God. Such are the similitudes which We propound to men, that they may reflect. (The Noble Quran, 59:21)"
So according to Islam, Dr. Bucaille is considered a Muslim. Please visit What is the Wisdom of Islam? for more details and proofs.
Fourth lie: ...
Again, Abdallah tells us a fairy tale, but gives no proof, no quotations and references. Thus, there is no need to reply.
Mr. Katz, again, you are deceiving your reader and acting very arrogantly! My "Forth lie" section is not a fairy tale. Here is the section:
It has come to my attention that the clown Quennel Gale, a member of the anti-Islamic "Answering Islam" team, is claiming that I copy my material from brother Shabir Ally. Well, talk is cheap as this clown is very good at. Bring me the proof to where I copied anything from brother Shabir Ally's work. If I and brother Shabir or any other brother talked about a similar topic, then this wouldn't at all mean that any of us had "stolen" any of the other's work. When the reader reads my material, he would immediately realize that I have invested a lot of time researching, investigating and building the contents of the articles on my site. Every brother's or sister's work that I uploaded on my site has his or her name and email, or web site's address signed on the top of their article.
In fact, when I read Quennel's articles such as "Allah not in the Bible", and "Jesus' original name is not Eesa", I immediately see use of words and phrases that are Middle Eastern. I don't believe he could've came up with all of this on his own, because he is an African American as he claims and doesn't speak Arabic nor Aramaic nor Hebrew. He doesn't include any references to which web sites he came up with his nonsense from, nor does he give any credit to anyone. All of his material is refuted in the links listed above on this page. So I guess now, who is the real thief Mr. Gale?
I don't not need to "steal" anyone's work and wouldn't steal anyone's work anyway. I am not saying this to brag about myself. It's simply the truth. As I mentioned above, every brother and sister whom I uploaded their work on to my site, I made sure that I put either their name and email address or their web site's address at the beginning of their articles. Their work will be insha'Allah (if GOD Almighty is willing) preserved on my site for as long as my site lives.
A CLOWN OF YOURS ACCUSED ME BEFORE OF STEALING FROM OTHERS MR. KATZ, AND I DISPROVED HIS CLAIM. WHERE IS THE "FAIRY TALE" IN THIS ONE?
The last item on this page consists of the claim that he received a rude email from "The Answering Islam Team". That charge is answered in a separate article: Yet Another Email Fraud.
That link of yours had been soundly refuted at: My rebuttal to Jochen Katz on "A rude email sent to me by the Answering Islam team" (I proved him to be a double-faced hypocrite with my captured image against him and his team members).
Back to My Rebuttals, and exposing the lies of the Answering Islam team section.
My response to Jochen Katz rebuttal to my article "Exposing the Cheap lies of the Answering Islam team".
How can Jesus be GOD Almighty when he asked for GOD's Forgiveness?
Contradictions and History of Corruption in the Bible.
Questions about Jesus that trinitarian Christians don't have logical answers for.
What parts of the Bible do Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") believe are closest to the Truth? and Why?
"Allah" was GOD Almighty's original Name in the Bible according to the Hebrew and Aramaic sources.
Scientific Miracles in Islam and the Noble Quran.
Most of the Bible's books and gospels were written by mysterious people!
Jesus mentioned Muhammad by the name in the Bible.
Did Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus? It supports Islam's claims about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross. I also addressed John 19:36-37 from the Bible and proved that Jesus never got crucified, since GOD Almighty promised that he will protect Jesus' body and not let even a single bone be broken. My question to all Christians is: How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's bones?! I also added refutations to Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12, Zechariah 12:10 and Psalm 34:20, which supposedly prove the Christians' belief about Jesus crucifixion. I proved that this dogma has no truth what so ever and exposed the wrong Trinitarian English translation of Zechariah 12:10.
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