Title: Re: Abrogated verses
Post by: bor3i on August 20, 2017, 05:02:11 am

I believe that there are no abrogation in the verses of what we have now of the holy Quran.... the forgotten verses been removed from the human memories.

 And the abrogated verses also been forgotten and altered with a better verses thus removed it from the Quran. Quran is a Fully integrated texture now and every different verse of it have it's special way in interpretation when we have the sense of the Quranic understanding...

giving you an example about alcohol drinking:-

1- Verse (16:67) "And of the fruits of the date-palm, and grapes, whence ye derive strong drink and (also) good nourishment. Lo! therein is indeed a portent for people who have sense".

this verse doesn't points that alcohol are allowed, because Allah almighty said after the strong drink AND a "good nourishment", not promoting the strong drink, but showing that he created things for many uses, and can be used for good and evil and medical stuff. 

lets take a look at Isaiah 45:7(KJV)
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things"


2- Verse (4:43) O ye who believe! Draw not near unto prayer when ye are drunken, till ye know that which ye utter

this verse also doesn't point that Alcohol were allowed or are allowed, it points that if it happened and your brain got intoxicated by these stuffs, then don't come to my mosques and don't pray at all. 

And Allah almighty knows best.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Bor3i and Everyone

For Noble Verse 4:43, it talks about two things:

1-  Those Muslims who were still addicted to alcohol after alcohol became prohibited.  You don't just leave an addiction in an instant.  Some people took time to cure.  Hence, the Command to never approach Prayer while drunk or intoxicated, EVER!  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/gradual_prohibition_of_alcohol.htm


2-  In today's medicine, there are intoxicating medicine that people take.  They're called narcotic drugs or medicine.  They are very intoxicating!  Many people would not be able to drive or even stand on their feet after taking them.




The Quran's Prophecy:

Point #2 is also appropriate for this Noble Verse, because while narcotic medicine did not exist back then, but Allah Almighty did speak about future scientific discoveries and miracles that will prove that the Holy Quran to be Divine and the Truth:

www.answering-christianity.com/sci_prophecy.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links

So Noble Verse 4:43 does indeed also apply today to narcotic medicine and drugs.




Why not?

Why should I today not apply it to narcotic medicine when the Glorious Quran is supposed to be for all times, all ages and all places?  What right does any satanic cultist, from the Muslims, have to deny the Glorious Quran to be applied to today's discoveries and science, especially when Allah Almighty Himself promised that He will also prove the Quran's Truth through future scientific discoveries?

www.answering-christianity.com/sci_prophecy.htm


Regarding the satanic cultists that have plagued the Muslim Ummah, visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac11.htm#links  (salafies, shias, suffies are included)

Take care,
Osama Abdallah