Rebuttal to Craig Winn "Prophet of Doom: Chapter 2" article:
This article is a rebuttal to Craig Winn's article that is located at: http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter2.html.
Important Note to the Reader:
Craig Winn purposely twisted and modified the English translations that he used! He changes words in translations and uses non-Muslim ones. I've noticed this a lot through his translations of the Noble Verses that he used from the Noble Quran.
Please visit:
List of Craig Winn's fabricated lies and deliberate alteration of quotes, WITH CLEAR-CUT PROOFS!
Before we get into the detailed rebuttal of this article, let's look at the following from his Bible:
Aisha in Islam: Let's discuss the age of Aisha being 9 when she married our Prophet (CLICK HERE): 1- See proofs, in the "Aisha being 9" article, from the Bible about little girls as young as 9 were married off and even sold off by their fathers as slave girls to men who were even older than their fathers. 2- See also irrefutable proofs that pedophilia and terrorism exist in the Bible. During the Mosaic times in the Bible's Old Testament, 3-year old slave girls were literally forced into sex under Moses' Orders and Command. You sometimes have to read things twice to believe them! See also: Maiming of the enemies' bodies in the Bible. Cutting the hands and feet of the enemies in the Bible, and hanging their live bodies on trees until they DIE. *** Killing of innocent children in the Bible. *** X-Rated Pornography in the Bible. *** Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.
Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries. Also visit: Why Muta (temporary) Marriage was allowed and why it was discontinued. |
Having said all of that, let us now proceed:
He wrote:
CHAPTER 2
DEVILS, DECEPTIONS & BACKRUBS
Because Allah afflicted Eve, all the women of the
world menstruate and they are stupid.
You may be wondering why Muhammad based his new religion on old Bible stories, and why he found it necessary to alter them. Muslim scholars insist that the characters and events, at least up to the point of departure, are similar because Yahweh and Allah are the same god. Unfortunately, that makes less sense than the sun falling out of a chariot and angelic wings blotting out the moon. If Allah is Yahweh, simply translate the Old Testament into Arabic and be done with it. We have proved that the Bible has not changed with the passage of time, so, if it was divinely inspiredas Muhammad claimsit must still be true.
But as we discovered in the last chapter, Muhammad was allergic to truth. Apparently, it didnt serve his interests. Its hard to imagine a man speaking more ignorantly or lying more transparently. The fact that Muslims are wholly reliant upon his testimony for the entirety of their religion and the very existence of their god, puts them in a precarious position. Islam is on life support and we havent even left Paradise yet.
Thus far, the Quran and Hadith have demonstrated that Muhammad wasnt very smart, and his god wasnt any help. That much should be evident by now. So lacking creativity and inspiration, Muhammad turned to the best-documented, best-known monotheistic religion, Judaism, to make his personal quest seem religious. So far, so good. Team Islam usurped Jewish ideas, terms, names, characters, and events. Muhammad penciled himself in as a fellow prophetas the lead act on the marquee. He cast Allah in the role of Yahweh. He replaced Jews with Arabs and started telling Bible stories. But being illiterate, he got them all fouled up.
The Jews laughed themselves silly. Rather than accepting the self-promoting prophet, they teased him for his errant portrayals of their history. But aspiring tyrants never admit to being wrong. Rather than correct his revisionist history, Muhammad claimed supremacy. He said, If you reject my message, you will die. Emboldened by the militants he eventually came to command, he twisted the stories further in an effort to make his wanton behavior look prophetic. Biblical accounts were contorted to the point they became nonsensical in the context of the time and place they actually occurred. The Jews, in defense of their scriptures, mocked Muhammad all the more. Enraged, Allahs Messenger struck back, calling them donkeys, apes, and pigs. He ordered his followers to kill every Jew. Hed show them who was right and who was wrong. Hed prove who was godly and who was not.
When you view this continuing saga in that light, and from this perspective, even stories of a talking sun wearing clothing, setting in a muddy spring surrounded by extraterrestrials becomes relevant. And if theres a better excuse, I mean explanation, for this malarkey, I mean alternate view, Id love to hear it. For if there is something in Islam that makes sense, something that was actually divinewe might use it to reach Muslims, reason with them, and keep them from killing us.
By way of confession, I came to see the Bible as the inspired word of Yahweh because of the prophecies it contained. I recognized that it was impossible for a 2,000 to 4,000 year-old book to accurately foretell todays events if it were not authored by a spirit who existed outside of time. You do not have to share my view, however, to understand that Islam disproved itself when it agreed with my conclusion. Two inspired books from the same deity cannot be contradictory to the point of being opposites.
Muhammads dependence on the Bible requires us to compare his text with the original. To understand Islam, we must determine why they are so different. I believe that the answer is obvious. Yahwehs spirit authored one and Lucifer inspired the other. Yet, once again, you do not need to agree with me. You may view Muhammads demonic behavior and the motivation for his deceitful scriptures metaphorically. His demons can be seen as our guttural nature, human depravity in full bloom. It doesnt require a devil to seduce covetous men into deceiving others to gain power, sex, and money.
Now for another confession. Any attempt to reorganize Islam chronologically is perilous. The religion was founded upon the claim that Abraham had a religion, that he built the Kaaba and established Islamic rituals. With most of his Quran pilfered from the Torah, Muhammad professed that Adam, Noah, Abraham, Lot, Moses, and Jesus were Muslim prophets, setting the stage for Islam long before he was born. The longer Muhammad lived, the more he twisted their stories, making them his own. So if I present the evidence in the order Muhammad actually made his assertions, wed have to jump in and out of history. But if we use a historical timelinethe Islamic version of creation through the twisting of the patriarchs, the immorality of Mecca, ending with the violence of Medinawell have to review Quranic scriptures and Islamic Hadith that were revealed last, first.
Tabari and Ishaq, as historian and biographer, use the same chronological approach I am using. Thus every surah we reference early in our narratives was revealed late in Muhammads mission. Adam and Satan dominate Islams genesis, yet none of the supporting Quranic verses are from the first score of surahs in order of their alleged revelation. I share this to keep you from jumping to the conclusion that Muhammad was a well-schooled religious man, possessing a sufficient understanding of the Bible to plagiarize it effectively at the outset of his career. In reality, he would not come to know the Torah until he came to know the Jews. And he would never understand the Gospels.
My response:
First of all, the issue of the Noble Quran's chronology
had been thoroughly addressed at:
www.answering-christianity.com/chapter6_rebuttal.htm#chronological_order
http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm
You mentioned three points:
1- Muhammad plagiarized or copied from the Bible, as you elaborated more in the previous chapter.
2- Muhammad talked about UFOs.
3- Muhammad forced Islam upon the Muslims by ordering for killing the apostates.
Here is my response to your two points:
1- As I clearly proved in my previous rebuttal to your previous chapter, the Bible contains OVERWHELMING and serious contradictions in its historical accounts, as well as corruptions and lack of evidence and invalidity to the authenticity and truthfulness of its books and gospels. As the Bible's own theologians admit, most of its books and gospels were written BY MYSTERIOUS PEOPLE! No one knows if these people were Prophets or not. The Bible is a big joke when it comes to consistencies and validity and authenticity of text.
As to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him "plagiarizing" or copying from the Bible, that is a ridiculous lie that had been refuted so many times before! While it is true that Allah Almighty did talk about the People of Israel and their Prophets, which included some stories that exist in the Bible, but most of the Noble Quran is NOT ABOUT THEM! They hardly cover 20 percent of the entire Noble Quran! Most of the Noble Quran consists of the Noble Verses that are concerned about the belief in the Absolute One and True Living GOD Almighty, and associating no partners (idols, gods, or humans) with Him. Here are few sample Noble Verses from the Noble Quran:
"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"
"Then Praise be to Allah, Lord of the heavens and Lord of the earth- Lord and Cherisher of all the worlds! To Him be Glory throughout the heavens and the earth: and He is Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom!. (The Noble Quran, 45:36-37)"
"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.' If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).' (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"
Back to the point about Prophet Muhammad copying from the Bible, as I mentioned in my previous rebuttal, Prophet
Muhammad peace be upon him did not copy anything from the Bible. It is true that
Allah Almighty talked about some stories regarding the People of Israel and some events
that happened in the past which exist in the Bible, but Allah Almighty's account
in the Noble Quran came to correct the errors, contradictions and corruptions in the Bible
and to demonstrate that the Bible is corrupt.
Just because the Bible contains history in it and was written by many authors, it doesn't make it an entirely Divine and Perfect Holy Book. There exists OVERWHELMING contradictions and errors in historical accounts and claims in the Bible, as well as the validity and authenticity of the books and gospels that make up the Bible of today, because they were written by MYSTERIOUS people; people who are not known to us today, and who were not even Prophets and Messengers from GOD Almighty! Consider the following few examples that consist of historical contradictions in the Bible:
II Samuel 10:18 talks about David slew the men of 700
chariots of the Syrians and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
I Chronicles 1:18 says that David slew the men of 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen
I Chronicles 9:25 says that Solomon had 4000 stalls for
horses and chariots.
I Kings 4:26 says that he had 40,000 stalls for horses
Ezra 2:5 talks about an exile Arah having 775 sons.
Nehemiah 7:10 talks about the same exile Arah having 652 sons.
II Samuel 24:13 So God came to David, and told him, and said unto
him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three
months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I Chronicles 21:11 SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose
thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destryed before thy foes, while
that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;
How did Judas die?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and
hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed
out." (Acts 1:18)
2 Samuel 6:23 Therefore MICHAL the daughter of Saul had no child
unto the day of her death.
2 Samuel 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare
unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of MICHAL the daughter of Saul, whom
she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite.
2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to
reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the
daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
2 Chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned
three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the
LORD.
26th year of the reign of Asa I Kings 16:6-8
36th year of the reign of Asa I 2 Chronicles 16:1
How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
22 in 2 Kings 8:26
42 in 2 Chronicle 22:2
Who was Josiah's successor?
Jehoahaz - 2 Chronicle 36:1
Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11
Also, your original scriptures are all doubtful according to the Bible's own theologians and historians. It's quite hilarious that even the Bible itself admits that it has been tampered with and corrupted by man's garbage:
"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'?
But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.
(From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
And regarding who wrote the books and gospels of the Bible, well here is a sample of what the NIV Bible's theologians and historians wrote:
"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark. They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark. His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1643)"
"The writer of this letter does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1856)"
"The letter is difficult to date with precision....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)"
"It seems safe to conclude that the book, at least in its early form, dates from the beginning of the monarchy. Some think that Samuel may have had a hand in shaping or compiling the materials of the book, but in fact we are unsure who the final author or editor was. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 286)"
"Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"
"The date of the composition is also unknown, but it was undoubtedly during the monarchy. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"
"The author is unknown. Jewish tradition points to Samuel, but it is unlikely that he is the author because the mention of David (4:17,22) implies a later date. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 360)"
"Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368)"
"There is little conclusive evidence as to the identity of the author of 1,2 Kings. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"
"Whoever the author was, it is clear that he was familiar with the book of Deuteronomy. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"
"According to ancient Jewish tradition, Ezra wrote Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (see Introduction to Ezra: Literary Form and Authorship), but this cannot be established with certainty. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 569)"
"Although we do not know who wrote the book of Esther, from internal evidence it is possible to make some inferences about the author and the date of composition. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 707)"
"The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources....(From the NIV Bible commentary, page 722)"
"Regarding authorship, opinions are even more divided....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 773)"
etc...
How do you respond to this?
Please visit: Just who were the original authors of the Bible?
to see the book's bibliography to the above quotes.
Also, why don't you visit: Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible, and see exactly what I mean, instead of acting like a total fool and saying things that even the Bible refutes in it!
It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD. This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers. Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption. I have their personal quotes in that site.
Also, as to the parts of the Bible that Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, please
visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
After that, please visit: Prophet Muhammad was foretold in many places in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.
2- As to UFOs, while you tried to be quite silly about it and twist Noble Verse's 18:86 meanings, which has nothing to do with UFOs, but for your lousy information, UFOs do seem to clearly exist in the Noble Quran:
From www.answering-christianity.com/ufo.htm:
UFOs and Space Shuttles were explicitly mentioned in the Noble Quran!
Let us look at the following Noble Verses from the Noble Quran:
"And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the living creatures that He has scattered through them: and He has power to gather them together when He wills. (The Noble Quran, 42:29)"
This Noble Verse was forwarded to me by brother Frank (www.why-christians-convert-to-islam.com), who have embraced Islam; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
As we see, "through them" includes the living creatures in both the Universe (heavens) and the earth. Please visit: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7906/ for more details and proofs. This link too was forwarded to me by brother Frank.
Also, "gather them together when He wills" seems to suggest that Allah Almighty would allow communication, finding and meeting with those scattered creations in the Universe (UFOs in other words) when "He wills".
Allah Almighty clearly talked about what we call today "space shuttles":
"O ye assembly of Jinns and men! If it be ye can pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, pass ye! not without authority shall ye be able to pass! (The Noble Quran, 55:33)"
When Allah Almighty revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him the Noble Quran 1500 years ago, there were no flying air planes or man-made objects invented. Yet Allah Almighty talked about humans passing the zones of heavens by saying "If it be ye can pass....., pass ye! not without authority" What is that authority? It is the Will of Allah Almighty of course, and the physical "space shuttles".
"Say: None in the heavens or on earth, except
God, knows what is hidden: nor can they perceive when they shall be raised up
(for Judgment). (The Noble Quran, 27:65)"
"Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to God) Most Gracious as a servant. He does take an account of them (all), and hath numbered them (all) exactly. And everyone of them will come to Him singly on the Day of Judgment. On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, will (God) Most Gracious bestow love. (The Noble Quran, 19:93-96)"
Noble Verses 27:65 and 19:93-96 clearly suggest that there are beings existing in the Universe in places other than earth.
"Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: 'I will create a
vicegerent on Earth.' They said: 'Wilt Thou place therein one who will make
mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify
Thy holy (name)?' He said: 'I know what ye know not.' (The
Noble Quran, 2:30)"
When I read this Noble Verse the first time after I watched citing of UFOs on TV, I
pondered upon it for a while. If Adam peace be upon him was the very first human out
of all Mankind that GOD Almighty ever created, then what caused the Angels peace be upon
them to be concerned about Adam's creation and say "Wilt Thou
place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?"??
How did they know that we humans were going to do mischief on Earth and shed blood??
Also, notice that Allah Almighty said that He was going to "create
a vicegerent on Earth" only! So, it could very well be that Adam peace
be upon him was the first human being ever existed on Earth, but not the first human being
ever created.
"It is He Who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; Moreover His design comprehended the heavens, for He gave order and perfection to the seven firmaments; and of all things He hath perfect knowledge. (The Noble Quran, 2:29)"
"He Who created the seven heavens one above another: No want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (God) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: seest thou any flaw? (The Noble Quran, 67:3)"
"God is He Who created seven Firmaments and of the Earth a similar number. Through the midst of them (all) descends His Command: that ye may know that God has power over all things, and that God comprehends, all things in (His) Knowledge. (The Noble Quran, 65:12)"
In the above Noble Verses we clearly see that Allah Almighty created seven Heavens or probably Galaxies! If we are living in one Galaxy, and there are six other Galaxies like the one we are living in, then it is very highly possible that there are other planets that have living humans in them as well.
Notice carefully that Allah Almighty said in Noble Verse 65:12 "God is He Who created seven Firmaments and of the Earth a similar number...." This could mean that there are six other Earths beside ours.
It could also mean that the Earth is made of seven layers as was Geologically proven. Please visit The mention of creation of Earth and Iron in the Noble Quran perfectly matches our scientific discoveries today.
3- As to why Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him ordered the killing of apostates (those who desert Islam), I have covered this topic in great details at: Freedom of Religion is allowed in Islam! Islam totally disagree executing those who desert Islam. Islam also totally disagrees with killing any non-Muslim Missionaries trying to spread their false religion in Muslim States. The reason why Prophet Muhammad ordered the killing of apostates was because during Islam's partial and weak times, many of the hypocrites from the Jews and Christians wanted to poison Islam and the Muslims' faith by pretending to embrace Islam and then desert it to create an impression among Muslims that Islam is not worth adopting:
"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam). (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"
To protect Islam from such Satanic attempts done by a group of the people of the book (Jews and Christians), Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him ordered the death of those who enter Islam and then leave it. This temporary law that was put by our Prophet had stopped the hypocrites from the People of the Book who carried so much hatred toward Islam to enter Islam and then desert it afterwards.
When Islam became complete and stable in the hearts of the Muslims, Allah Almighty later on NULLIFIED the temporary law of killing apostates that was put by the Prophet through these Noble Verses:
"Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion: Truth stands out clear from error...(The Noble Quran, 2:256)"
"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it): for the wrong doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on! (The Noble Quran, 18:29)"
"If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe! (The Noble Quran, 10:99)"
I've written a detailed article regarding this subject that clearly and irrefutably proves
that Islam today honors the freedom of choice and religion:
From www.answering-christianity.com/apostates.htm:
Freedom of religion in Islam for both Muslims and non-Muslims:
The sections of this article are:
- Who are the Apostates in Islam?
- The absolute freedom of religion in Islam.
- So how come Muslim Fundamentalists execute those who desert Islam then?
- My rebuttal to the Muslim Fanatics about the historical Muslims' battles
with the Apostates.
- Does "Islam" really mean to force someone to Islam or else kill him?
- Conclusion.
Who are the Apostates in Islam?
Apostates or Renegades are those who decide to leave the religion of Islam. There is a widely prevailing misconception about this issue. It is generally thought that the Holy Quran (The Muslims Holy Scripture) provides the death sentence for those who desert the religion of Islam. There is not the least ground for such a supposition. The Holy Quran speaks repeatedly of people going back to unbelief after believing, but never once does it say that they should be killed or punished. Although the Holy Quran does provide the death sentence for some situations such as putting a murderer to death, but it never provided death sentence or ordered the death of those who leave Islam.
Let us look at Noble Verse 2:217 "They ask thee (Mohammed) Concerning fighting In the Prohibited Month. Say: Fighting therein Is a grave (offence); but graver is it In the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the sacred Mosque, and drive out its members. Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you turn back from their faith (Islam) and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the hereafter; they will be companions of the fire and will abide therein." Here in this Holy Verse we see that Allah Almighty talks about those who leave Islam, and promises them punishment in the day of judgment. Allah Almighty doesn't order the death of those people.
Let also look at Noble Verse 5:54 "O ye who believe! If any from among you turn back from his faith, soon will Allah produce a people whom He (Allah) will love as they will love Him lowly with the believers, Mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproachers of such as find fault. That is the Grace of Allah which He will bestow on whom He (Allah) pleaseth. And Allah encompasseth all, and He knoweth all things." Here in this Holy Verse we see again Allah Almighty strengthening the faith of the Muslims in Islam by assuring them that whenever they see Muslims leaving Islam they will also see those who join Islam with strong faith and love to Allah Almighty.
"As most men are rebellious." (5:49), it is inevitable that there should be apostates even from such a religion of reason and common-sense as Islam. In Verse 5:54 above there is a warning to the Muslims that they should not repeat the history of the Jews, and become so self-satisfied or arrogant as to depart from the spirit of Allah's teaching. If they do, the loss will be their own. Allah's bounty is not confined to one group or section of humanity. He can always raise up people who will follow the true spirit of Islam. That spirit is defined in two ways:
1- They will love Allah Almighty and Allah Almighty will love them.
2- Amongst the Brethren, their attitude will be that of humility, but to wrongdoers they will offer no compromises, and they will always strive and fight for the truth and right. They will know no fear, either physical, or that more insidious form. They are too great in mind to be haunted by any such thought.
Let us look at Noble Verse 5:55 "(O Muslims) Your (real) friends are (No less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the (Fellowship Of) Believers, those who establish regular prayers and regular charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship)." Here we see Allah Almighty telling Muslims after he warned them from apostates in (5:54) that their real friends are: Allah Almighty, Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him, and the good Muslims who keep up with their prayers and charity, and who humbly worship their God.
Let us look at Noble Verse 3:90 "But those who reject faith after they accepted it, and then go on adding to their defiance of faith never will their repentance be accepted; for they are those who have (of set purpose) gone astray." Here in this holy verse we see Allah Almighty rejecting the faith of those who keep coming back and forth to Islam. In order for a human being to accept Islam as his religion, he must be certain about it first. Allah Almighty's path is wide open, and his mercy is greater than this universe. This Holy Verse also does not order the death of those who leave Islam.
The path to Allah Almighty is always open and Allah Almighty will be your friend as in verse (5:55) above, and he will forgive your sins for you once you repent as in the following verse: "Except for those that repent (Even) after that, And make amends; for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful." (3:89).
The absolute freedom of religion in Islam:
Some group of Muslims believe in killing apostates because they follow a Hadith (Saying) from Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him regarding the apostates. While Islam was weak and still growing among Jews, Christians and Pagans, Muslims did not have the full and complete religion that they needed. Some Jews and Christians wanted to take advantage of such situation to destroy Islam. They had a plan to adopt Islam first and then desert it, thus creating the impression that Islam was not a religion worth adopting.
Let us look at Noble Verse 3:72 "A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam)." To protect Islam from such Satanic attempts done by a group of the people of the book (Jews and Christians), Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him ordered the death of those who enter Islam and leave it. This temporary law that was put by our Prophet had stopped the hypocrites from the People of the Book who carried so much hatred toward Islam to enter Islam and desert it afterwards.
Allah Almighty ordered the Muslims to kill the pagans who fought against the Muslims. The following Noble Verse talks about all of the enemies who fought the Muslims long and bloody battles:
Let us look at Noble Verse 2:191 "And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith." The killing of the pagans who fought the Muslims during the time when Islam was not yet complete was essential.
Important Note: Noble Verse 2:191 above is not dedicated to the apostates as some Muslim fanatics use it to prove that the Noble Quran orders the killing of apostates. In fact, it doesn't even mention the apostates. It talks in general about slaying the pagans who declare wars on the Muslims. The pagans would obviously include the apostates who deserted Islam, but the Noble Verse certainly doesn't DIRECTLY order the killing of anyone who deserts Islam.
Allah Almighty promised that He will protect the Noble Quran from any corruption:
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption). (The Noble Quran, 15:9)"
"Nay, this is a Glorious Quran, (inscribed) in a Tablet Preserved! (The Noble Quran, 85:21-22)"
Let us look at Noble Verse 5:3 ".....This day those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: Yet fear them not But fear Me (Allah). This day have I (Allah) perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your (complete) religion....". So long as Islam was not organized, with its own community and its own laws, the unbelievers and the Hypocrites from the People of the Book and the Pagan Arabs had hoped to wean the believers from the new teaching. Now that hope is gone forever with the complete organization of Islam.
Let us look at Noble Verses 15:2-3 "Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them)."
Let us look at Noble Verses 10:99-100 "If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed, all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe! No soul can believe, except by the will of God, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand."
Let us look at Noble Verse 18:29 "Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it): for the wrong doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on!"
Let us look at Noble Verse 27:92 "And to rehearse the Qur'an: and if any accept guidance, they do it for the good of their own souls, and if any stray, say: 'I am only a Warner.'"
Let us look at Noble Verse 10:99 "If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe!" Allah Almighty doesn't like us to compel people into belief.
"No soul can believe, except by the will of God, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand. (The Noble Quran, 10:100)" Allah Almighty helps those whom He likes to be guided to His Straight Path. If anyone doesn't believe, or reverts back from Islam, it is then his loss and it is the Will of Allah Almighty.
"Say: 'Behold all that is in the heavens and on earth'; but neither Signs nor Warners profit those who believe not. Do they then expect (any thing) but (what happened in) the days of the men who passed away before them? Say: 'Wait ye then: for I, too, will wait with you.' (The Noble Quran, 10:101-102)" Notice how Allah Almighty orders us to say "Wait" to those who reject Islam. This clearly says that we can't force anyone into Islam, or punish anyone for leaving Islam.
Let us look at Noble Verse 10:108 "Say: 'O ye men! Now Truth hath reached you from your Lord! those who receive guidance, do so for the good of their own souls; those who stray, do so to their own loss: and I am not (set) over you to arrange your affairs.'" Whoever believes benefits his soul and whoever doesn't, harms it, and Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is not in charge of people to arrange their affairs. Only Allah Almighty is.
"Say: 'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message). (The Noble Quran, 24:54)" Prophet Muhammad's duty was only to preach.
"Those who pervert the Truth in Our Signs are not hidden from Us. Which is better? he that is cast into the Fire, or he that comes safe through, on the Day of Judgement? Do what ye will: Verily He seeth (clearly) all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 41:40)" Here we clearly see Allah Almighty giving a freedom of choice for people to choose or refuse Islam.
"And those who take as protectors others besides Him - Allah doth watch over them; and thou art not the disposer of their affairs. (The Noble Quran, 42:6)" Again, Allah Almighty here told Prophet Muhammad that he has no authority over those who reject Islam.
"It is true thou wilt not be able to guide every one whom thou lovest; but Allah Guides those whom He will and He Knows those who receive guidance. (The Noble Quran, 28:56)" Again, no authority to Prophet Muhammad over those who accept or reject Islam.
Let us look at Noble Verse 2:256 "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things." The Holy Quran prohibits Muslims to force any person into Islam. Muslims must not let people resent Islam and Muslims. They must leave people decide for themselves because the "Truth stands out clear from error" (2:256).
Compulsion is incompatible with religion: Because (1) religion depends upon faith and will, and these would be meaningless by force; (2) Truth and Error have been so clearly shown up by the mercy of Allah Almighty that there should be no doubt in the minds of any persons of good will as to the fundamentals of faith; (3) Allah Almighty's protection is continuous, and His Plan is always to lead us from the depths of darkness into the clearest light.
The following was sent to me from Vipor Poison; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
"I found another verse in the Quran that dealt with apostates. Noble Verse 4:137 "Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe (again) and (again) reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief,- Allah will not forgive them nor guide them nor guide them on the way."
Notice that the Quran says those who reject faith and then BELIEVE and again DISBELIEVE. if a Muslim rejects faith and is then killed for doing so how will he live to again BELIEVE and then DISBELIEVE. The atmosphere of this verse is that of free will and freedom of choice to everyone. If Allah wanted he would have said something about the punishment, if there was any, of those who reject Islam after accepting it. but Allah takes this to be clearly a private matter between them and Allah.
I found many verses in the Quran that teach us NO PUNISHMENT for an apostate BUT I found no verse that says the contrary.
Here is another verse about the freedom of expression in the Quran. many translators translate this wrongly and kill the meaning of the word making it a bogus and strange statement. Noble Verse 39:18 "Those who listen to the word, then follow the best of it; those are they whom Allah has guided, and those it is who are the men of understanding."
The Quran tells the Muslims to listen to every thing and follow only the best of what is said. it does not tell them to kill people if they say something that is not according to the cultural norm."
The following two sets of Noble Verses were sent to me by brother Rached Blili; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
Let us look at Noble Verses 109:1-6 "Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine."
Let us look at Noble Verse 42:15 "Now then, for that (reason), call (them to the Faith), and stand steadfast as thou art commanded, nor follow thou their vain desires; but say: 'I believe in the Book which God has sent down; and I am commanded to judge justly between you. God is our Lord and your Lord: for us (is the responsibility for) our deeds, and for you for your deeds. There is no contention between us and you. God will bring us together, and to Him is (our) Final Goal.'"
The Noble Quran in all of the above Noble Verses is crystal clear about providing freedom of religion and choice to all people, Muslims and non-Muslims.
So how come Muslim Fundamentalists execute those who desert Islam then?
Well quite frankly, I don't know how much trouble this section will get me from my readers, but I personally believe that as long as Islam has fanatics like the Taliban and the Saudi Arabia regime who oppress women by prohibiting them from education, even though Islam clearly allows education for women, and prohibiting them also from driving, and oppress men by forcing them to grow beards, even though beards are NOT mandatory in Islam, Muslims will always fail to give the Truthful and Most Beautiful picture of Islam.
As we've seen above, it is quite clear, and beyond any questioning that Allah Almighty, Prophet Muhammad's GOD prohibited compulsion in religion and allowed the absolute freedom of religion to everyone.
When Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him executed apostates, he did it because Muslims were at war time and because Islam was still partial, and Muslims needed protection from the hypocrites of the Jews and Christians who purposely entered Islam and deserted it later.
The Sayings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him regarding killing the renegades came when Islam as I said was partial and the Muslims were dealing with wars all the time. So if the person wasn't with the Muslims, then he was certainly with his people, the pagans and the other non-Muslims, and he would've then had to join the evil forces to fight the Muslims. So the case back then was different than today.
I have no sympathy for those hypocrites of the Jews and Christians who got executed:
"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam). (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"
Please read "The absolute freedom of religion in Islam" section above for more details and explanations.
There is a difference between being a hateful person and a religious person. The Islamic fanatics like the Taliban in Afghanistan STRIVE on being hateful and oppressing to people.
Also, the Saudi Arabian fanatic regime were the first to sell themselves cheap to America and the West when Iraq invaded Kuwait. They allowed for the non-Muslim troops to enter the Holy Lands which Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him clearly prohibited. They could've solved the conflict by the Arabs and the Muslims only by sending Islamic troops to liberate Kuwait if the Iraqis insisted on not pulling out of Kuwait. I mean, those fanatics are so "MEN" to oppress Saudi women and prohibit them from driving, but when it comes to their gods, the Americans and the American Almighty Dollar, they are willing to admit them to the forbidden Holy Lands, and to make allies with them against other Muslims, and to bend over for them too, if you know what I mean! That is a clear hypocrisy!
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Quite honestly, I believe that Muslims will eventually reach a point where they will be very straight and religious people, and will over throw the Islamic fanatics, like any revolution history in Europe where the oppressed people raised up against the dictators and killed them.
Of course I am not suggesting that getting rid of the Islamic fanatics means accepting the Westerner's Satanic life style. Personally, I think both sides are too excessive. The Islamic fanatics are too excessive in their oppression, while the West is too excessive in their sexual and Satanic openness.
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Islam is a very flexible and dynamic religion, and is the truthful way of life for all times and all places. The Taliban's Islam isn't. Believe it or not, they actually consider Muslims like me as infidels who deserve to die.
To any of the Muslim fanatics, anyone who is against them is against GOD, and therefore he/she deserves to die. That is what Islam calls living in the "darkness", because GOD Almighty is certainly not ruled by those hypocrites, and He is not waiting for some worthless fanatics to determine who deserves to live and who deserves to die without committing any crime.
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My rebuttal to the Muslim Fanatics about the historical Muslims' battles with the Apostates:
According to the Islamic history, when Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him died, some of the Muslims had deserted Islam for several reasons. The biggest of those reasons was that they opposed paying the Zakah (2.5% of annual income of Islamic taxes for the poor). The Arabs before Islam were used to exploiting each others. The strong ate the poor, and high interest rates were enforced on loans given to the poors to ultimately force them to sell of their cattles, sons, daughters and/or wives as slaves.
After the death of our Prophet, some of the rich hypocrites decided to join with the Pagan Arab tribes to fight the Muslims and end Islam. The leader of the apostates/renegades was Musylama Al-Kath-thab or Musylama the liar in English. He started his army of infidels in what we call today the country of Oman, which is more than 1,000 miles away from Mecca and Medina where the Muslims resided.
After Musylama became strong and popular and was able to gather a big amount of pagans and hypocrites to form an army, he led them to march to Mecca and Medina to fight the Muslims. When his army finally reached the mountains near Mecca, the Muslims had fought them several battles until he ultimately was killed and his army was soundly defeated.
The objection that I have with the Muslim fanatics is for the following reasons:
1- It was the renegades or apostates that declared the war on the Muslims. The Muslims did not start the war.
2- We can't use the story of Musylama Al-Kath-thab to prove that it is ok today to kill any person who deserts Islam. Musylama was not a peaceful renegade. He wanted to destroy the Muslims through war. He had to be fought and killed. We can't use him as a standard and kill all renegades.
3- As I proved in this article, Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran talked about the apostates several times, and not a single command exists in the Noble Quran that orders the killing of any of them.
4- The Sayings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him regarding killing the renegades came when Islam was partial and the Muslims were dealing with wars all the time. So if the person wasn't with the Muslims, then he was certainly with his people, the pagans and the other non-Muslims, and he would've then had to join the evil forces to fight the Muslims. So the case back then was different than today.
5- Today, if a week-hearted and easily persuaded person for instance decides to embrace Islam and then gets easily persuaded to leave Islam, and then gets easily persuaded to embrace Islam again, and then gets easily persuaded to leave it and so on, then how is it right for us to apply the things that were applied to the hypocrites and Musylama Al-Kath-thab during and after our Prophet's time to this innocent individual?
6- We must never forget Allah Almighty's command that honors the freedom of religion and choice in Islam in Noble Verse 2:256 and the others as shown in this article.
7- The Muslim fanatics claim that the Caliphs did not apply Noble Verse 2:256 and others to the renegades, because the Caliphs knew that these Noble Verses are not applicable to them. My response to this is that we (1) Don't know if the Caliphs had any choice to apply them back in the hostile environment that they existed in back then; (2) The Caliphs are not the measuring stick that the Muslims today have to follow, especially after knowing that the Caliphs themselves had contradicted each others several times before on very major Islamic issues: [1] [2].
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Conclusion:
I truly believe that Islam doesn't allow killing of apostates. Noble Verse 2:256 "Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion: Truth stands out clear from error..." which gives total and absolute religious freedom which was one of the last Noble Verses revealed negates the saying of our dear and beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him which temporarily and for that period of time and for that special case only ordered the killing of the hypocrites who entered Islam and deserted it to confuse and weaken the Muslims' faith when Islam was still incomplete. Noble Verse 2:256 came way after Prophet Muhammad's Saying.
Muslims today must allow religious freedom because Islam today is a full and complete religion and it's laws are organized and its revelations are complete, and because Islam simply orders us to do so. I think that we must start thinking logically and take things from our religion (Islam) by their wisdom and reasons, and not literally. If Allah Almighty (God) wanted us to kill Apostates for all time, then he would have mentioned it in the Noble Quran and ordered us to do so just like he did for other situations (such as killing murderers). Allah Almighty never ordered us to kill any Apostate because Islam is a religion for all times and all places.
We must allow freedom of religious choice for Muslims in our Islamic countries, because again, Islam orders us to do so, and because it is part of our religion to have freedom. Allah Almighty prohibited compulsion (forcing others) to Islam (2:256), and he wants us to choose or leave Islam by complete choice, because he is the Supreme Judge Al-Knowing Most Merciful.
Personally, I strongly believe that Allah Almighty wanted for Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to give temporary laws to fix certain problems and corruption that existed in the society 1400 years ago. The reason why Allah Almighty didn't Send down the law as a Revelation in the Noble Quran is because as I said, He meant for it to be only a temporary law and not a Law that must be followed for all times and all places.
The Muslim fanatics do not represent Islam in anyway. They are oppressing people to both men and women, and they lack a great deal of humanity and love in them. They are for the most part very hateful to others, and Islam has no place for such people.
He wrote:
We pick up the story of Islams creation account where we left
off, with Iblis, better known as Lucifer. Im going to work the narrative through the
Quran. In the 7th surah, called The Wall Between
Heaven and Hell, Allah, or I should say, Muhammad, corrupts one of
the earliest Genesis stories. But he gets sidetracked with intolerance and terrorism
before he dives into his version. So in deference to the Islamic apologists, Ill
keep the whole passage in context, starting at the beginning.
Before we start, however, you should know that the only reason we can
read this or any surah is because an angel or a clanging bell
dictated it (or gonged it) to Muhammad directly from the Memorial Tablets
written at Allahs command by the Pen before the universe was created. 007.001
This Book [the Quran] has been sent down to you. The
opening verse is not accurate. The Quran wasnt a book. Based upon the
historical record, nothing would be committed to writing or compiled into a book for
another century. Do not hesitate to warn the
unbelievers through it. This warning was not for the
unbelievers benefit or for their salvation. All non-Muslims are predestined to hell.
So the threat of impending punishments which could not be averted strongly suggests that
the author was either demented or a sadist.
Muhammads schizophrenic spirit said: 007.003
Follow the Revelation given to you from your Lord and follow not as protectors other
than Him [third person]. Little do you remember My [first person, singular] warning. How
many towns have We [plural] destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them
suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our
punishment overtook them. No cry did they utter but: We were
wrong-doers. The Islamic gods taste for terror is
shocking. Its hard to fathom scripture bragging, How
many towns have We destroyed? or,
Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept. What would
possess someone to claim this was godly? The Islamic god, by his own
admission, is a terrorist.
Before we move on, I want to bring your attention to the motivation
behind this opening salvo. Muhammad wanted his detractors to know that his god would
terrorize anyone who rejected those to whom Our
Message was sent [Muslims] or those by whom We sent it [Muhammad].
Its a warning: If you deny Muhammad, his followers will terrorize you.
007.007 Verily, We shall recount their whole story with knowledge,
for We were never absent at any time or place. Muhammad, speaking on
behalf of his spirit, is acknowledging that the stories in the Quran appear
plagiarized. But they are not, he protests, because his god was omnipresent.
He is preparing us for an onslaught of bastardized Hebrew scripture.
Those whose scale of good will be heavy
will prosper. Those whose scale will be light will find their souls in perdition [hell],
for they wrongfully treated Our Signs. Thats the basis of the
religion of Islam. Good works. The more you do the heavier the good side of
your scale becomes. Unfortunately, all the good deeds in the world cant outweigh
predestination. And the best good deed according to Muhammad is to die a
jihadist terrorizing infidels.
Want proof? From Bukharis, Book of
Jihad, Chapter 1, number 1204: A man came
to Allahs Messenger and said, Guide me to such a deed as equals Jihad in
reward. He said, I do not find such a deed. Bukhari:V4B52N50
The Prophet said, A single endeavor of fighting in Allah's Cause is better
than the world and whatever is in it. As we move into the
Medina war surahs I will share scores of these with you.
Returning to the 7th surah, Allahs miffed men arent
thankful. 007.010 It is We who have placed you [Adam] with authority on
earth, and provided you with means for the fulfillment of your life: small are the thanks
that you give! Little give you thanks!
It is We who created you and gave
you shape; then We ordered the angels to fall and prostrate themselves to Adam. And they
fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who made prostration.
Iblis was Lucifer, a fallen angel better known as Satan. The Quran says that he was
a jinn, or demonic spirit. Both the Quran and Bible agree that Lucifer rebelled
against God.
According to the Bible, as an angel, Lucifer was merely a tool. His
relationship with Yahweh was like that of a private to a general. Without choice angels
cannot love. And they are incapable of creativity, which may explain why so much of the
Quran was plagiarized. Lucifers existence was defined by the same terms that
gave Islam its name and authority: submit and obey. The Bible says, when
Lucifer rebelled, a third of the angels were cast out of heaven and became demons. They
lashed out at Yahweh by deceiving man, separating us from God, just as they had been.
This all led to the most infamous meal in human history. I share this
Biblical perspective because once again, Muhammad, lacking imagination, plagiarized it,
albeit with his own unique embellishments. 007.012
What prevented you [Iblis/Lucifer] from
prostrating when I commanded you? He said: I am better than Adam: You created
me from fire and him from clay. So Allah said: Get down from this place: it is
not for you to be arrogant here: get out, you are degraded, for you are of the meanest of
creatures. The request is odd, yet the Quran never
explains why Allah wanted his angels to humble themselves before man.
In the Quran, Satan protests. 007.014 Give me a reprieve until the time they are
raised. Allah said: You have your reprieve. He said: Because you
have thrown me out, I will lie in wait, lurking in ambush for them on Your Right Path. I
will assault them from behind, from their right and left. You will find them
ungrateful. Allah said: Get out of here. You are disgraced and expelled. If
any follow, I will fill Hell with all of you. The Quran
has clearly said that Satan is deceptive, and that hes going to hell. This is
important because, from this point on, Allah will claim to be deceitful and we will find
him in hell, tormenting men.
Continuing to steal from Genesis, the Islamic scriptures say: 007.019
We said: Adam, dwell with your wife in the Garden and enjoy: but approach not
this tree or you will run into harm and become wrong-doers. Then Satan began to
whisper suggestions to them, bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was
hidden from them. He said: Your Lord only forbid you this tree, lest you should
become angels, immortal, living forever. In the Garden, Adam
was immortal. Seducing Adam with a promise of immortality would be like seducing Arabs
with a promise of more sand. Besides, why would Adam want to become an angel if the angels
were bowing to him?
007.021 He swore to them that he was their sincere adviser. So by
deceit he brought about their fall. This is interesting. Muslims
claim that there was no fall of man, thus no reason for the Messiah to come and reconcile
fallen man back into fellowship with God. Further, Satan is mimicking Muhammad. The
prophet incessantly claimed to be the sincere adviser, yet through deceit, he
brought men to their knees.
When they tasted of the tree, their
shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together leaves, covering their
bodies. Allah called: Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you that Satan was an
avowed enemy? For those who are curious: Tabari I:299 Scholars of the nation of our Prophet say,
The tree which Allah forbade Adam and his spouse to eat was wheat.
Yes, a wheat tree.
007.023 They said: Allah, we have wronged our own souls: If
you do not forgive us, we shall be of the lost losers. Allah said: Go down
from here as enemies of each other. Allah seems to think that
the Garden of Eden, a.k.a. the Garden of Bliss, is in heaven. Thus when Adam rejected
Allah, he was sent down, not cast out. Also, did you notice the line: you will be
enemies of each other? He was speaking to Adam and Eve, foreshadowing the Islamic
view of women.
Allah continued: On earth
will be your dwelling place and your means of livelihood for a time. He [third
person, singular] said: Therein shall you live, and therein shall you die, and from
it shall you be raised. O children of Adam. [How did they get kids so fast?] We [first
person plural] have sent clothing down to you to cover your shame, and for beauty and
clothing that guards against evil. This is of the communications of Allah [now third
person singular]. Why did they need clothes to guard against
evil? If their lusts carried them awaywho were they going to be adulterous with?
An interesting sidebar on the first kids comes to us in this Tradition:
Tabari I:321 When Eve became heavy with her first pregnancy, Satan came
to her before she gave birth and said, Eve, what is that in your womb? She
said, I do not know. He asked, Where will it come out fromyour
nose, your eye, or your ear? She replied, I do not know. He said,
Dont you think, if it comes out healthy, you should obey me in whatever I
command you? When she said, Yes, he said: Name him Abd al-Harith
IblisSlave to the cursed! She agreed. Believable dialog, dont you think? Just the kind of foundation
youd expect to underpin a great religion.
Adam said to him [Iblis/Lucifer], I obeyed you once before and you caused me
to be driven out of Paradise. So he refused to obey him and called the child Abd
Ar-Rahman.
Ar-Rahman was the name of Muhammads first god. The
55th surah, named in Ar-Rahmans honor, begins: Ar-Rahman
bestowed the Quran, created man, and taught him to express clearly. The sun and moon
revolve to his computation and the grasses and the trees bow to Him in adoration.
He
created man. With multiple gods, Islam became pagan monotheism.
And with multiple truths, Islam is flawed revelation: Tabari I:275 They
ate from it and as a result their secret part that had been concealed became
apparent. It hadnt been much of a marriage up to that point.
But if thats true, how did they get kids? And why does the Islamic Tradition say: Tabari I:299 It was the cover of fingernails that had kept their secret
parts concealed.
007.027 O you Children of Adam, let not Satan seduce you, in the
same manner as he got your parents out of the Garden, making them disrobe, stripping them
of their clothing, to expose their shame. Just six verses earlier,
Adam was nude, sinned, and thus felt the need for clothing. He made his own, sewing
together leaves. Then Allah sent down supernatural clothes from AlMart. Now were
told that Satan stripped them? For he [Satan/Lucifer]
and his tribe [of demons/jinn] watch you from a position where you cannot see them. We
made the jinn friends of the unbelievers. So there you have it.
Satan, Iblis, and jinn are all cut from the same clothall made of fire, all from the
same tribe. These invisible evil spirits, or demons, lurk in the shadows ready to ambush
men, deceiving them. Yet, as you shall discover in one of the most bizarre Quranic
passages, these pesky demons think Muhammad and Allah are swell, calling them
Prophet and Lord. They are employed to authenticate the
Quran.
007.030 Some He has guided: as for others, error is their due. They
deserve loss in that they took the devils instead of Allah for their friends and think
that they are rightly guided. 007.035 Children of Adam, whenever messengers come from amongst
you, rehearsing My [singular] signs and revelations to you, act rightly so that you have
no fear, nor reason to grieve. But those who reject Our [plural] signs and scorn them with
arrogance, they are inmates of the Fire forever. What messengers,
what revelations? Allah is allegedly talking to Adams kids. The first prophet and
scripture wouldnt arrive for over two thousand years. The Islamic god had no concept
of time. Worse, he couldnt even keep himself together, talking in first person
singular and plural in the same verse. Somebody was very confused.
The second part of this passage is revealing. As we dig deeper into the
Quran youll find that the most repeated theme is: reject Muhammad and
youre toast. Although he tries a number of variants, his favorites twist Bible
stories, as he has done here. Muhammad was referring to himself when he warned Adams
kids not to reject the messenger among them.
007.037 Who is more unjust: one who invents a lie against Allah or
one who rejects His Signs? For such, their appointed destiny must reach them from when Our
messengers of death arrive and take their souls. [These guys sound a little like
Hitlers S.S.] They say: Now where is that to which you cried to beside
Allah? They will reply, They have left us in the lurch.
There were no signs, no miracles, no proofs of any kind to confirm Muhammads claim
to being a prophet or the Qurans claim to being divinely inspired. The
repetition of lies like this was just part of Muhammads warped game. Its
standard megalomaniac behavior. Tell a big enough lie, say it often enough, and enough
will believe it for you to prevail.
007.038 Allahs messengers of death will say: Enter the
fire, join the company of men and jinn who passed away before you. Every time a
fresh group of people or nation enters, they curse those that went into the Fire before
them. The most recent entrants into Hell ask: Lord, they led us astray, so give them
a double torment in the Fire. He will say: For each there is already a double
dose of torment
. So taste the punishment.
Its stunning to the point of agony that a billion people, through
seduction, indoctrination, and compulsion, have been led to believe that these hateful
words are Gods. Yet while stunning, its not baffling. All Muhammad had to do
was to convince fifty well-armed fools. While it took him ten years, it shouldnt
have been hard. Mecca was a town of five thousand. All but a handful were illiterate.
Steeped in pagan superstition, already believing in the pagan idol of the Kaaba, the
young and the rebellious, the poor and the destitute, were ripe for the picking.
My response:
You mentioned two points:
1- Hell.
2- Terrorism.
Here is my response to your points:
1- What is wrong with the above Noble Verses that you mentioned? Hell is a terrible place, and Islam describes it in good details to warn the believers. Allah Almighty also described Heaven as much or even more to Give Glad Tidings to the believers about the Pleasures and Happiness that they will live in. Your pornful bible, the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", is more concerned about women and who the Biblical Prophets could get away with marrying literally 100s of wives each!
To the reader, please visit the following links to understand fully what happened between satan and Allah Almighty, and how Allah Almighty described Heaven and Hell in the Noble Quran:
Is Satan in Islam the same as Satan in the Bible?
Would you describe Heaven and Hell according to the Islamic doctrine?
Will Hell eventually be empty? For how long will Allah Almighty punish some of His creation?
2- As to terrorism, it only exists in your pornful bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like wine:
Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
Here is a proof from the Noble Quran that this verse, Numbers 31:17 is a corruption and lie inserted into the bible:
"Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections, depressing a small group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief. (The Noble Quran, 28:4)"
Allah Almighty is clearly against killing the men and keeping the women in the Noble Quran. The pornful bible on the other hand promotes it!
Continuing with terrorism in the pornful bible:
Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."
Why kill the innocent children? Why kill all of the non-virgin women? Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars. Women rarely fought in battle fields. So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?
This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him: "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic. He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors. (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"
"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin." This is verified at this link.
Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins?
Will Craig Winn now call his Bible as a book of terrorism?
He wrote:
Lets pick up the Islamic story of Satan and hell
from the Hadith. I will be quoting from the History of al-Tabari, Creation to the Flood. Tabari I:249
There was an angelic tribe of jinn, and Iblis belonged to it. Iblis [Satan/Lucifer]
was one of the noblest angels and governed the most honored tribe. Tabari I:251
Whoever among them says: I am a god besides Him, will have Hell as his reward from
Us. That is how We reward the wrongdoers. [Quran 21:29] This verse was
revealed specifically for Iblis, when he said what he said. May Allah curse him and have
him stoned! Weve just been given a rather interesting clue:
the Quran was revealed for Lucifers benefit. And ask yourself, how is a
stone going to curse or punish a spirit?
Iblis belonged to a tribal group
called jinn. They were created from the fire of simoom. All of the angels except this
tribal group were created from light. The jinn mentioned in the Quran were created
from a tongue of white-hot fire blazing on its side. [Quran 55:15] The first to
dwell on the earth were jinn. They caused corruption on it and shed blood and killed each
other. [Since demons are spirits, how could they shed blood and bleed?] Allah sent Iblis
with an army of angels to fight against the jinn. Iblis and the angels with him caused a
bloodbath, but his success went to his head. Allah made Lucifer a
traitor against his own tribe, which is exactly what happened with Muhammad in Mecca.
Tabari I:252 Allah created some creatures and said, Prostrate
yourselves before Adam! They replied, We shall not do that. Allah sent a
fire to consume them.
Four things should be perfectly clear. First, if you dont
prostrate yourself, youre scorched. And while that sounds extreme, its
designed to frighten Muslims. Muhammad is quoted in a Hadith from Bukhari entitled Prayer is Obligatory saying: Bukhari:V1B11N617 I would order someone to collect firewood and another to
lead prayer. Then I would go burn the houses of men who did not present themselves at the
compulsory prayer and prostration. Islam means
submission, and the sign of submission is prostration. The mosque, the centerpiece of
Islamic control, is derived from the Arabic word for the place of prostration.
Second, Satan is a jinn. Third, jinn are bad. And fourth, everybody
associated with jinn loves fireMuhammad and Allah included. I share this because of
the impact it has on two of the most troubling narratives in the Quran. And those
passages, surprisingly enough, dont include the Satanic Verses, in which Muhammad
received scripture from Lucifer. They are instead ones in which Satans jinn are used
to endorse the Quran.
The first of these demonic interludes begins, like so many others, with
a threatening rant before it torments us with nonsense. 046.027
We have destroyed habitations all around you, having explained Our signs in
different ways to them that they may turn back. Why then did the gods they had taken apart
from Allah as protectors not come to their aid? In fact they strayed away from them.
This is weird. Did the other gods stray away from men, making them real, or did men stray
away from the other gods, making the condemnation irrelevant?
It was all a lie what they had
contrived! After enduring a litany of Muhammads whoppers,
thats quite a claim. But nothing compared to this...046.029
Remember when We turned a company
of jinn towards you to listen to the Quran? They arrived when it was being recited,
and they said: Keep silent. When it was over they came back to their tribe,
warning them: O our people [fellow demonic jinn], we have listened to a Book which
has come down after Moses, confirming what was sent down before it, showing the way to the
truth and a path that is straight. The jinn are endorsing the
Quran as being truthful, a straight path. Thats like Churchill asking Nazis to
confirm his policies. Can you imagine a god so desperate hed solicit demonic
assistance? The Good Housekeeping Seal-of-Approval, this is not.
And it didnt stop there. The demons went on to say: 046.031 Jinn,
listen to [Muhammad] the Messenger of Allah, and believe in him, so that He may forgive
you your sins and save you from a painful doom. Satans demonic
spirits just proclaimed that Muhammad was their savior and their messenger. Either
Muhammads Quran recital was so convicting it saved devils or the devils are
deceiving men by calling his lie true. You make the call.
Back in Paradise, the Prophets Companions explain, Tabari I:273
Iblis was cursed, and Adam settled in. Adam used to go about all alone, not having a
spouse to dwell with. He fell asleep, and when he woke up, he found sitting at his head a
woman who had been created by Allah from his rib. [I know youve heard this before.
So had Muhammad.] He asked her what she was, and she replied, A woman. He
asked for what purpose she had been created, and she replied, For you to dwell with
me. The angels, looking to find out the extent of Adams knowledge, asked him
her name. He replied, Eve, because she was created from a living thing. And
Allah said, Adam, dwell in Paradise! Eat freely of its plenty wherever you
wish. The omission of Gods warning not to eat of the
tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil may not have been left out of this account by
accident. In Islam there is no choice, therefore, no reason for the tree. While it exits
in other variations, it serves no purpose. Man is predestined to his fate. The reason for
the tree in Genesis is to provide Adam with a choice. And it is the same choice we must
all makelove God or reject him. Love cannot be compelled. Even God cant
require love.
A Tradition reveals: He then cast
slumber upon Adam as we have heard from the people of the Torah among the people of the
Book. Im told that confession is good for the soul. At least
they had the good sense and common courtesy to say where Muhammad stole his material.
Tabari I:275 Iblis wanted to meet them in Paradise, but the keepers
prevented him from entering. He went to a snake, an animal with four feet like a camel.
Iblis tried to persuade it to let him enter its mouth and take him to Adam. The snake
agreed, passed by the keepers, and entered without their knowledge, because that was
Allahs plan. If Allahs plan was to help Satan deceive
man, you know whose side Allah was on.
Iblis talked to Adam from the mouth of
the snake, but Adam paid no attention to him. So Iblis said, Adam, may I lead you to
the tree of eternity and a power that never decays
. Both you and Eve will have
eternal life and will never die. Since there was no death or
dying in Paradise, how would Adam know what decay was? How could he be enticed to be
eternal when he was created that way? I give you good
advice. But by tearing their clothes, Iblis wanted to show them their secret parts, which
had been concealed from them. From his reading of the books of the angels, he knew what
Adam did not, that they had secret parts. Wait a minute. Adam was
supposed to be smart and the angels stupid. Now were told the angels are smart
enough to have books and Adam is oblivious.
Tabari I:276 Adam refused to eat but Eve came forward and ate. Then she
said, Eat, Adam. I have and it has done me no harm. But when Adam ate, their
secret parts became apparent to them and they started to cover themselves with leaves of
Paradise stitched together. [Quran 7:22] I dont get it.
Why would showing Adam and Eve their private parts seduce them into rebellion? If sex
isnt good, why is it the essence of Islamic Paradise?
As you might expect, there is more than one version of this story. So
for some comic relief lets look at another variant: Tabari I:276 Iblis proposed to the animals on earth that they should take
him into Paradise so that he could speak with Adam and his spouse, but every animal
refused. Finally, he spoke to the snake. It was dressed and walking on four feet, but
Allah then undressed it and made it walk on its belly. Conjuring up
the image of a dressed snake walking with a fiery jinn in its mouth, on four feet, being
undressed by god, takes some doing.
Over the next few pages, the man solely responsible for inventing
Islam, Allah, and the Quran said, The
trees branches were intertwined and it bore fruit which the angels ate to live
eternally. Then,
Adam went inside the tree to hide. And, Eve
cut the tree and it bled. The feather that covered Adam and Eve dropped off.
So, Tabari I:278 Now Eve, as you caused the tree to bleed, you will bleed
every new moon, and you, snake, I will cut off your feet and you will walk slithering on
your face. For giggles: Some camels were originally jinn.
And: Tabari I:279 It was a tree which made whoever ate from it defecate. But
there must be no faeces in Paradise. Since the angels ate from it to
live eternally, where might they have answered the call of nature?
For another insight into the mind of Muhammad and therefore into the
character of his god: Tabari I:280 Allah said, It is My obligation to make her bleed
once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I
created her intelligent. Zayd, Muhammads adopted son
said, Tabari I:280 Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of the world
menstruate and are stupid. Its a wonder there are any Muslim
women. Its a wonder feminist organizations are silent. Why do they tolerate a
doctrine that demeans six hundred million women?
Tabari I:281 I heard him swear by Allah unequivocally, As
long as Adam was in his right mind, he would never have eaten from the tree. Eve gave him
wine and got him drunk. She led him to the tree. Muhammad
didnt like women very much. Bukhari:V4B55N547 The Prophet said, But for the Israelis, meat would
not decay, and if it were not for Eve, wives would never betray their
husbands. He didnt like Jews, either.
Tabari I:282 The Messenger said, Friday was the Lord of Days. On
Friday, Adam was created and cast down to earth. The duration of Adam and Eves stay
in Paradise was five hours. As usual, Muhammad had a reason
for enduring the criticism these preposterous accounts surely brought him. Friday was
important. Muhammad and his followers had observed the Jewish Sabbath and prayed facing
the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. (It seemed only natural; they had taken everything else
from Jews.) But eventually the Jews in Yathrib, todays Medina, mocked the Messenger
one too many times. So Muhammad decided to differentiate his Islam from the religion of
his tormentors. Saturday was theirs. Sunday was takensomething about a
resurrectionso Friday became the lord of days. All Muhammad needed was a little
justification.
What do you suppose happened to Adam once he was deported? The Bible
picks up the story in Mesopotamia, where recorded history began, but not Islam. Muhammad
had another agenda. Tabari I:290 Allah cast Adam down to earth. The place where he fell down
was the land of India. Why India, you ask? Because: When Adam was cast down there, some of the smell of Paradise
clung to Indias trees. Aisha, Muhammads wife told us
that he said, The things I love most are women and
perfume. The Prophet was simply trying to excuse his preoccupation
with smelling good. If his perfumes were created in paradise, smelling good was religious
rather than self-indulgent.
Tabari I:291 Adam was cast down in India and Eve in Juddah. He went in
search of her, and eventually they were united. Eve drew near him, hence Muzdalifah. They
recognized each other, hence Arafat. And they were united in Jam, hence Jam.
If the India story was conceived to rationalize the prophets obsession with perfume,
why this elaborate tale? Its all about Muhammads third and fourth
vicespower and money. He wanted to legitimize and then control the pagan hajj. It
was the source of the regions power and wealth during his day. Each of the places
Muhammad claims the amorous couple traversed were just outside Mecca. Going to them was
part of the pagan rites he later incorporated into Islam. So he was validating his claim
to the religious scam he would soon steal.
Tabari was criticized for these stories. So he said, The soundness of this is established by a report serving as
conclusive proof that Adam was cast down in India. It is rejected neither by the Muslim
scholars nor by the people of the Torah and Gospel. Proof is firmly established by reports
from some of them. As you have seen, justifying the unjustifiable
has caused Muslims to latch on to imaginary verifications. There is nothing in the Torah
or Gospels that says Adam was dropped in India. The Biblical Garden of Eden was on Earth,
not heaven; it was located near the headwaters of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers and the
Black Sea.
Tabari I:292 It has been mentioned that the summit of the mountain upon
which Adam was cast down is one of those closest to heaven. When Adam was cast upon it his
feet were on it while his head was in heaven. He heard the songs of the angels. The angels
were afraid of him so his size was reduced. The Islamic heaven must
be very low.
Knowing Muhammad, there had to be an ulterior motive. The prophet was
trying to rationalize something. What do you suppose it was this time? Tabari I:293 When
Allah cast Adam down from Paradise, Adams feet were on earth while his head was in
heaven. He became too familiar with the angels and they were in awe of him so much so that
they complained to Allah in their various prayers. Allah, therefore, lowered Adam. But
Adam missed what he used to hear from the angels and felt lonely. He complained to Allah
and was sent to Mecca. On the way every place where he set foot became a village, and the
interval between his steps became a desert until he reached Mecca.
Were getting close. Its important for Muhammad, and thus
Islam, to place Adam in Mecca. Could there be more? Allah
sent down a jewel of Paradise where the House [Kaaba] is located today. Adam
continued to circumambulate it until Allah sent down the Flood.
There you have it. To make the insignificant pagan Kaaba seem godly and important,
and to have the stone that represented the most senior idol of the Meccan pantheon appear
like it belonged to Islam, we see Allah sending Adam to the Kaaba and giving him his
Black Stone. We even have Adam circumambulate it like a good Muslim for a thousand years,
helping to justify Islamic ritual. Muhammad was not only the worlds worst prophet,
he was the worlds most transparent liar.
Now all Muhammad needed to do was connect the Kaaba to Abraham so
he could rationalize Islams reliance on the Hebrew Bible. With the Bible snagged, he
had himself a religion. Tabari I:293 That jewel was lifted up until Allah sent Abraham to
(re)build the House. This is meant by Allahs word, And We established for
Abraham the place of the House as residence. [Quran 22:26]
Muhammad was as predictable as sunrise.
You probably noticed the (re) before build. In the creation account
Allah built the Kaaba himself. Then it was built by Adam. Now we are told that
Abraham built it. So I ask you: how many times should a prophet be allowed to contradict
himself before he is no longer considered a prophet?
The legends behind the Kaaba are essential to Islam. If they
dont make sense, neither does the religion. Tabari
I:293 Allah founded
the House together with Adam. Adams head was in heaven while his feet were upon the
earth. The angels were afraid so his size was reduced to sixty cubits (30 meters). Adam
was sad because he missed the angelic songs. He complained, and Allah said, Adam, I
have cast down a house for you to circumambulate, as one circumambulates My Throne.
Adam came to the House, and he and the prophets after him circumambulated it. In
this account we have the Kaaba being built in heaven and also being built
cooperatively by Adam and Allah. Either way, its a wonder the Islamic god would take
credit for building something so crude and unsightly.
Reducing Adam is a fairytale. As is the desert forming between his
strides and villages cropping up in his footsteps. So then, when does the make-believe
world of Islam end and the real world begin? When do we move out of fiction and into
nonfiction? Stated another way, can you trust a man who is willing to base his religion on
stories this farfetched? If he had to deceive us to make the Kaaba seem worthy of
devotion, is it?
Tabari I:294 When Adams size was lowered to sixty cubits, he
started to say, My lord! I was your protégé in Your House, having no Lord but You
to protect me. There I had plenty to eat and could dwell wherever I wanted. But then You
cast me down to this holy mountain. There I used to hear the voices of the angels and see
them crowd around Your Throne and enjoy the sweet smell of Paradise. Then you cut me off
from these things.
This is a confession. Muhammad saw himself as Allahs
protégéif not as Allah himself. He constantly looked for people to protect him,
and as an orphan, he was deprived of food. His own tribe became so disgusted with his
continual taunts they made travel difficult for him. He was consumed with a desire to make
Allahs House and Mecca both his and important. He indulged in the sweet smell of
perfume and repeatedly claimed that he could hear the angels. Whats more, his
Quran is filled with complaints.
Muhammad couldnt even keep his own twisted version of Adam
straight. Listen to this excerpt in which the prophets indulgences were falsely
manifest in Adam: Tabari I:318 He built for himself cities and castles and
populated them and made them prosperous. He also assembled weapons and established a
cavalry. At the end of his life, he became a tyrant. He took the name of Adam and said,
If