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Rebuttal to Craig Winn "Prophet of Doom: Chapter 2" article:

This article is a rebuttal to Craig Winn's article that is located at:   http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter2.html.

 

 

Important Note to the Reader:

Craig Winn purposely twisted and modified the English translations that he used!  He changes words in translations and uses non-Muslim ones.  I've noticed this a lot through his translations of the Noble Verses that he used from the Noble Quran.


Please visit:

List of Craig Winn's fabricated lies and deliberate alteration of quotes, WITH CLEAR-CUT PROOFS!

 

 

Before we get into the detailed rebuttal of this article, let's look at the following from his Bible:

 

Terrorism in Islam?! (click here)
Let's look at the real terrorism in the Bible:

Pedophilia with
3-year old slave girls in the Bible!
Forcing 3-year old slave girls into sex during the Mosaic Law in the Bible! (click here)

Terror in the Bible by a number of Prophets! (click here)

Pregnant women will be ripped open! (click here)

The NT punishes children with death! (click here)

Terrorism:
"kill all the boys and non-virgin women"!
Also under the Mosaic Law! (click here)

Another killing all men, women, children and animals by Moses! (click here)

Another taking all women and children as spoils of war by Moses!
(click here)

Moses was a murderer before he became a Prophet! (click here)

Killing all of the "suckling infants" by the thousands by Saul! (click here)

Dashing little children against rocks in the book of Psalm!
Praising the dashing of little children against rocks as a form of revenge! (click here)

42 innocent children were killed using Wild Bears by Prophet Elisha!
Prophet Muhammad on the other hand loved children even those who threw stones at him in the city of Al-Ta'if. (click here)

Both equal: "Kill Righteous and the wicked"! (click here)

Maiming of the enemies' bodies under Moses' and David's Laws:
Cutting the hands and feet of the enemies in the Bible, and hanging their alive bodies on trees until they DIE.
(click here)

David's Selective Murders!
David so carelessly killed an innocent man for only telling him news.
(click here)

X-Rated Pornography in the Bible, by King Solomon!
Literally, women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", and brothers can "suck" their sisters' and lovers' privates!
(click here)

Fathers' fingers into their daughters' vaginas!
Under the Mosaic Law, fathers were allowed to do "Digital Defloration" to their daughters.
(click here)

Shutting the loud mouths of those who unjustly attack Islam, with Truth.

Aisha in Islam:

Let's discuss the age of Aisha being 9 when she married our Prophet (CLICK HERE):

1-  See proofs, in the "Aisha being 9" article, from the Bible about little girls as young as 9 were married off and even sold off by their fathers as slave girls to men who were even older than their fathers.

2-  See also irrefutable proofs that pedophilia and terrorism exist in the Bible.  During the Mosaic times in the Bible's Old Testament, 3-year old slave girls were literally forced into sex under Moses' Orders and Command.  You sometimes have to read things twice to believe them!

See also: Maiming of the enemies' bodies in the Bible.   Cutting the hands and feet of the enemies in the Bible, and hanging their live bodies on trees until they DIE.

*** Killing of innocent children in the Bible.

*** X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.

*** Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.


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  See also proofs how Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced.  The reason no one objected was:

  1. People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia.   They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum.  So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.

  2. Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries.

Please visit: The age of Aisha, girls similar to her in the Bible, and unbelievable pedophilia against 3-year old slave babies in the pedophilic Bible.

Also visit: Why Muta (temporary) Marriage was allowed and why it was discontinued.

 

Having said all of that, let us now proceed:

 

 


He wrote:

CHAPTER 2

DEVILS, DECEPTIONS & BACKRUBS

“Because Allah afflicted Eve, all the women of the
world menstruate and they are stupid.”

    You may be wondering why Muhammad based his new religion on old Bible stories, and why he found it necessary to alter them. Muslim scholars insist that the characters and events, at least up to the point of departure, are similar because Yahweh and Allah are the same god. Unfortunately, that makes less sense than the sun falling out of a chariot and angelic wings blotting out the moon. If Allah is Yahweh, simply translate the Old Testament into Arabic and be done with it. We have proved that the Bible has not changed with the passage of time, so, if it was divinely inspired—as Muhammad claims—it must still be true.
    But as we discovered in the last chapter, Muhammad was allergic to truth. Apparently, it didn’t serve his interests. It’s hard to imagine a man speaking more ignorantly or lying more transparently. The fact that Muslims are wholly reliant upon his testimony for the entirety of their religion and the very existence of their “god,” puts them in a precarious position. Islam is on life support and we haven’t even left Paradise yet.
    Thus far, the Qur’an and Hadith have demonstrated that Muhammad wasn’t very smart, and his god wasn’t any help. That much should be evident by now. So lacking creativity and inspiration, Muhammad turned to the best-documented, best-known monotheistic religion, Judaism, to make his personal quest seem religious. So far, so good. Team Islam usurped Jewish ideas, terms, names, characters, and events. Muhammad penciled himself in as a fellow prophet—as the lead act on the marquee. He cast Allah in the role of Yahweh. He replaced Jews with Arabs and started telling Bible stories. But being illiterate, he got them all fouled up.
    The Jews laughed themselves silly. Rather than accepting the self-promoting prophet, they teased him for his errant portrayals of their history. But aspiring tyrants never admit to being wrong. Rather than correct his revisionist history, Muhammad claimed supremacy. He said, “If you reject my message, you will die.” Emboldened by the militants he eventually came to command, he twisted the stories further in an effort to make his wanton behavior look prophetic. Biblical accounts were contorted to the point they became nonsensical in the context of the time and place they actually occurred. The Jews, in defense of their scriptures, mocked Muhammad all the more. Enraged, Allah’s Messenger struck back, calling them donkeys, apes, and pigs. He ordered his followers to “kill every Jew.” He’d show them who was right and who was wrong. He’d prove who was godly and who was not.
    When you view this continuing saga in that light, and from this perspective, even stories of a talking sun wearing clothing, setting in a muddy spring surrounded by extraterrestrials becomes relevant. And if there’s a better excuse, I mean explanation, for this malarkey, I mean alternate view, I’d love to hear it. For if there is something in Islam that makes sense, something that was actually divine—we might use it to reach Muslims, reason with them, and keep them from killing us.
    By way of confession, I came to see the Bible as the inspired word of Yahweh because of the prophecies it contained. I recognized that it was impossible for a 2,000 to 4,000 year-old book to accurately foretell today’s events if it were not authored by a spirit who existed outside of time. You do not have to share my view, however, to understand that Islam disproved itself when it agreed with my conclusion. Two “inspired” books from the same deity cannot be contradictory to the point of being opposites.
    Muhammad’s dependence on the Bible requires us to compare his text with the original. To understand Islam, we must determine why they are so different. I believe that the answer is obvious. Yahweh’s spirit authored one and Lucifer inspired the other. Yet, once again, you do not need to agree with me. You may view Muhammad’s demonic behavior and the motivation for his deceitful scriptures metaphorically. His demons can be seen as our guttural nature, human depravity in full bloom. It doesn’t require a devil to seduce covetous men into deceiving others to gain power, sex, and money.
    Now for another confession. Any attempt to reorganize Islam chronologically is perilous. The religion was founded upon the claim that Abraham had a religion, that he built the Ka’aba and established Islamic rituals. With most of his Qur’an pilfered from the Torah, Muhammad professed that Adam, Noah, Abraham, Lot, Moses, and Jesus were Muslim prophets, setting the stage for Islam long before he was born. The longer Muhammad lived, the more he twisted their stories, making them his own. So if I present the evidence in the order Muhammad actually made his assertions, we’d have to jump in and out of history. But if we use a historical timeline—the Islamic version of creation through the twisting of the patriarchs, the immorality of Mecca, ending with the violence of Medina—we’ll have to review Qur’anic scriptures and Islamic Hadith that were revealed last, first.
    Tabari and Ishaq, as historian and biographer, use the same chronological approach I am using. Thus every surah we reference early in our narratives was revealed late in Muhammad’s mission. Adam and Satan dominate Islam’s genesis, yet none of the supporting Qur’anic verses are from the first score of surahs in order of their alleged revelation. I share this to keep you from jumping to the conclusion that Muhammad was a well-schooled religious man, possessing a sufficient understanding of the Bible to plagiarize it effectively at the outset of his career. In reality, he would not come to know the Torah until he came to know the Jews. And he would never understand the Gospels.

 

My response:


First of all, the issue of the Noble Quran's chronology had been thoroughly addressed at:

www.answering-christianity.com/chapter6_rebuttal.htm#chronological_order

http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm

 

You mentioned three points:

1-  Muhammad plagiarized or copied from the Bible, as you elaborated more in the previous chapter.

2-  Muhammad talked about UFOs.

3-  Muhammad forced Islam upon the Muslims by ordering for killing the apostates.

 

Here is my response to your two points:

1-  As I clearly proved in my previous rebuttal to your previous chapter, the Bible contains OVERWHELMING and serious contradictions in its historical accounts, as well as corruptions and lack of evidence and invalidity to the authenticity and truthfulness of its books and gospels.  As the Bible's own theologians admit, most of its books and gospels were written BY MYSTERIOUS PEOPLE!  No one knows if these people were Prophets or not.  The Bible is a big joke when it comes to consistencies and validity and authenticity of text.

As to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him "plagiarizing" or copying from the Bible, that is a ridiculous lie that had been refuted so many times before!  While it is true that Allah Almighty did talk about the People of Israel and their Prophets, which included some stories that exist in the Bible, but most of the Noble Quran is NOT ABOUT THEM!  They hardly cover 20 percent of the entire Noble Quran!   Most of the Noble Quran consists of the Noble Verses that are concerned about the belief in the Absolute One and True Living GOD Almighty, and associating no partners (idols, gods, or humans) with Him.  Here are few sample Noble Verses from the Noble Quran:

"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.  (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"

"Then Praise be to Allah, Lord of the heavens and Lord of the earth- Lord and Cherisher of all the worlds!  To Him be Glory throughout the heavens and the earth: and He is Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom!.  (The Noble Quran, 45:36-37)

"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)!   Come to common terms as between us and you:  That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.'  If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).'  (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"


Back to the point about Prophet Muhammad copying from the Bible, as I mentioned in my previous rebuttal, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him did not copy anything from the Bible.  It is true that Allah Almighty talked about some stories regarding the People of Israel and some events that happened in the past which exist in the Bible, but Allah Almighty's account in the Noble Quran came to correct the errors, contradictions and corruptions in the Bible and to demonstrate that the Bible is corrupt.

Just because the Bible contains history in it and was written by many authors, it doesn't make it an entirely Divine and Perfect Holy Book.  There exists OVERWHELMING contradictions and errors in historical accounts and claims in the Bible, as well as the validity and authenticity of the books and gospels that make up the Bible of today, because they were written by MYSTERIOUS people; people who are not known to us today, and who were not even Prophets and Messengers from GOD Almighty!  Consider the following few examples that consist of historical contradictions in the Bible:

II Samuel 10:18 talks about David slew the men of 700 chariots of the Syrians and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
I Chronicles 1:18 says that David slew the men of 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen

I Chronicles 9:25 says that Solomon had 4000 stalls for horses and chariots.
I Kings 4:26 says that he had 40,000 stalls for horses

Ezra 2:5 talks about an exile Arah having 775 sons.
Nehemiah 7:10 talks about the same exile Arah having 652 sons.

II Samuel 24:13 So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I Chronicles 21:11 SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destryed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

How did Judas die?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (Acts 1:18)

2 Samuel 6:23 Therefore MICHAL the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.
2 Samuel 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of MICHAL the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite.

2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
2 Chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

26th year of the reign of Asa I Kings 16:6-8
36th year of the reign of Asa I 2 Chronicles 16:1

How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
22 in 2 Kings 8:26
42 in 2 Chronicle 22:2

Who was Josiah's successor?
Jehoahaz - 2 Chronicle 36:1
Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11

Also, your original scriptures are all doubtful according to the Bible's own theologians and historians.  It's quite hilarious that even the Bible itself admits that it has been tampered with and corrupted by man's garbage:

"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie(From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

And regarding who wrote the books and gospels of the Bible, well here is a sample of what the NIV Bible's theologians and historians wrote:

"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark.  They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark.  His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost.  (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"

"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1643)"

"The writer of this letter does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1856)"

"The letter is difficult to date with precision....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)"

"It seems safe to conclude that the book, at least in its early form, dates from the beginning of the monarchy. Some think that Samuel may have had a hand in shaping or compiling the materials of the book, but in fact we are unsure who the final author or editor was.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 286)"

"Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"

"The date of the composition is also unknown, but it was undoubtedly during the monarchy.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"

"The author is unknown. Jewish tradition points to Samuel, but it is unlikely that he is the author because the mention of David (4:17,22) implies a later date.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 360)"

"Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368)"

"There is little conclusive evidence as to the identity of the author of 1,2 Kings.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"

"Whoever the author was, it is clear that he was familiar with the book of Deuteronomy.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"

"According to ancient Jewish tradition, Ezra wrote Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (see Introduction to Ezra: Literary Form and Authorship), but this cannot be established with certainty.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 569)"

"Although we do not know who wrote the book of Esther, from internal evidence it is possible to make some inferences about the author and the date of composition.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 707)"

"The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources....(From the NIV Bible commentary, page 722)"

"Regarding authorship, opinions are even more divided....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 773)"

etc...

How do you respond to this?


Please visit: Just who were the original authors of the Bible? to see the book's bibliography to the above quotes.

Also, why don't you visit: Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible, and see exactly what I mean, instead of acting like a total fool and saying things that even the Bible refutes in it!

It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD.  This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers.  Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption.  I have their personal quotes in that site.


Also, as to the parts of the Bible that Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

After that, please visit:  Prophet Muhammad was foretold in many places in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.

 

2-  As to UFOs, while you tried to be quite silly about it and twist Noble Verse's 18:86 meanings, which has nothing to do with UFOs, but for your lousy information, UFOs do seem to clearly exist in the Noble Quran:

From www.answering-christianity.com/ufo.htm:

UFOs and Space Shuttles were explicitly mentioned in the Noble Quran!

Let us look at the following Noble Verses from the Noble Quran:

"And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the living creatures that He has scattered through them: and He has power to gather them together when He wills.  (The Noble Quran, 42:29)"

This Noble Verse was forwarded to me by brother Frank (www.why-christians-convert-to-islam.com), who have embraced Islam; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

As we see, "through them" includes the living creatures in both the Universe (heavens) and the earth.  Please visit: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7906/ for more details and proofs.  This link too was forwarded to me by brother Frank.

Also, "gather them together when He wills" seems to suggest that Allah Almighty would allow communication, finding and meeting with those scattered creations in the Universe (UFOs in other words) when "He wills".

Allah Almighty clearly talked about what we call today "space shuttles":  

"O ye assembly of Jinns and men! If it be ye can pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, pass ye! not without authority shall ye be able to pass!  (The Noble Quran, 55:33)"

When Allah Almighty revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him the Noble Quran 1500 years ago, there were no flying air planes or man-made objects invented.  Yet Allah Almighty talked about humans passing the zones of heavens by saying "If it be ye can pass....., pass ye! not without authority"   What is that authority?  It is the Will of Allah Almighty of course, and the physical "space shuttles".


"Say: None in the heavens or on earth, except God, knows what is hidden: nor can they perceive when they shall be raised up (for Judgment).  (The Noble Quran, 27:65)"

"Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to God) Most Gracious as a servant. He does take an account of them (all), and hath numbered them (all) exactly. And everyone of them will come to Him singly on the Day of Judgment. On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, will (God) Most Gracious bestow love.  (The Noble Quran, 19:93-96)"

Noble Verses 27:65 and 19:93-96 clearly suggest that there are beings existing in the Universe in places other than earth.


"Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: 'I will create a vicegerent on Earth.' They said: 'Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?' He said: 'I know what ye know not.'  (The Noble Quran, 2:30)"

When I read this Noble Verse the first time after I watched citing of UFOs on TV, I pondered upon it for a while.  If Adam peace be upon him was the very first human out of all Mankind that GOD Almighty ever created, then what caused the Angels peace be upon them to be concerned about Adam's creation and say "Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?"??

How did they know that we humans were going to do mischief on Earth and shed blood??


Also, notice that Allah Almighty said that He was going to "create a vicegerent on Earth" only!  So, it could very well be that Adam peace be upon him was the first human being ever existed on Earth, but not the first human being ever created.

"It is He Who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; Moreover His design comprehended the heavens, for He gave order and perfection to the seven firmaments; and of all things He hath perfect knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 2:29)"

"He Who created the seven heavens one above another: No want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (God) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: seest thou any flaw?  (The Noble Quran, 67:3)"

"God is He Who created seven Firmaments and of the Earth a similar number. Through the midst of them (all) descends His Command: that ye may know that God has power over all things, and that God comprehends, all things in (His) Knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 65:12)"

In the above Noble Verses we clearly see that Allah Almighty created seven Heavens or probably Galaxies!  If we are living in one Galaxy, and there are six other Galaxies like the one we are living in, then it is very highly possible that there are other planets that have living humans in them as well.

Notice carefully that Allah Almighty said in Noble Verse 65:12 "God is He Who created seven Firmaments and of the Earth a similar number...."  This could mean that there are six other Earths beside ours.

It could also mean that the Earth is made of seven layers as was Geologically proven.   Please visit The mention of creation of Earth and Iron in the Noble Quran perfectly matches our scientific discoveries today.

 

3-  As to why Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him ordered the killing of apostates (those who desert Islam), I have covered this topic in great details at:  Freedom of Religion is allowed in Islam!  Islam totally disagree executing those who desert Islam.  Islam also totally disagrees with killing any non-Muslim Missionaries trying to spread their false religion in Muslim States.  The reason why Prophet Muhammad ordered the killing of apostates was because during Islam's partial and weak times, many of the hypocrites from the Jews and Christians wanted to poison Islam and the Muslims' faith by pretending to embrace Islam and then desert it to create an impression among Muslims that Islam is not worth adopting:

"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam).  (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"

To protect Islam from such Satanic attempts done by a group of the people of the book (Jews and Christians), Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him ordered the death of those who enter Islam and then leave it.  This temporary law that was put by our Prophet had stopped the hypocrites from the People of the Book who carried so much hatred toward Islam to enter Islam and then desert it afterwards.

When Islam became complete and stable in the hearts of the Muslims, Allah Almighty later on NULLIFIED the temporary law of killing apostates that was put by the Prophet through these Noble Verses:

"Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion:  Truth stands out clear from error...(The Noble Quran, 2:256)"

"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it): for the wrong doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on!  (The Noble Quran, 18:29)"

"If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe!  (The Noble Quran, 10:99)"


I've written a detailed article regarding this subject that clearly and irrefutably proves that Islam today honors the freedom of choice and religion:

From www.answering-christianity.com/apostates.htm:

Freedom of religion in Islam for both Muslims and non-Muslims:

The sections of this article are:

- Who are the Apostates in Islam?
- The absolute freedom of religion in Islam.
- So how come Muslim Fundamentalists execute those who desert Islam then?
- My rebuttal to the Muslim Fanatics about the historical Muslims' battles
   with the Apostates.
-
Does "Islam" really mean to force someone to Islam or else kill him?
- Conclusion.

 

Who are the Apostates in Islam?

Apostates or Renegades are those who decide to leave the religion of Islam.  There is a widely prevailing misconception about this issue.  It is generally thought that the Holy Quran (The Muslims Holy Scripture) provides the death sentence for those who desert the religion of Islam.  There is not the least ground for such a supposition.  The Holy Quran speaks repeatedly of people going back to unbelief after believing, but never once does it say that they should be killed or punished.  Although the Holy Quran does provide the death sentence for some situations such as putting a murderer to death, but it never provided death sentence or ordered the death of those who leave Islam.

Let us look at Noble Verse 2:217 "They ask thee (Mohammed) Concerning fighting In the Prohibited Month.  Say:  Fighting therein Is a grave (offence); but graver is it In the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the sacred Mosque, and drive out its members.  Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter.  Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can.  And if any of you turn back from their faith (Islam) and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the hereafter; they will be companions of the fire and will abide therein."  Here in this Holy Verse we see that Allah Almighty talks about those who leave Islam, and promises them punishment in the day of judgment.  Allah Almighty doesn't order the death of those people.

Let also look at Noble Verse 5:54 "O ye who believe!  If any from among you turn back from his faith, soon will Allah produce a people whom He (Allah) will love as they will love Him lowly with the believers, Mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproachers of such as find fault.  That is the Grace of Allah which He will bestow on whom He (Allah) pleaseth.  And Allah encompasseth all, and He knoweth all things."  Here in this Holy Verse we see again Allah Almighty strengthening the faith of the Muslims in Islam by assuring them that whenever they see Muslims leaving Islam they will also see those who join Islam with strong faith and love to Allah Almighty.  

"As most men are rebellious." (5:49), it is inevitable that there should be apostates even from such a religion of reason and common-sense as Islam.  In Verse 5:54 above there is a warning to the Muslims that they should not repeat the history of the Jews, and become so self-satisfied or arrogant as to depart from the spirit of Allah's teaching.  If they do, the loss will be their own.  Allah's bounty is not confined to one group or section of humanity.  He can always raise up people who will follow the true spirit of Islam.  That spirit is defined in two ways:  

1-  They will love Allah Almighty and Allah Almighty will love them.

2-  Amongst the Brethren, their attitude will be that of humility, but to wrongdoers they will offer no compromises, and they will always strive and fight for the truth and right.  They will know no fear, either physical, or that more insidious form.  They are too great in mind to be haunted by any such thought.  

Let us look at Noble Verse 5:55 "(O Muslims) Your (real) friends are (No less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the (Fellowship Of) Believers, those who establish regular prayers and regular charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship)."  Here we see Allah Almighty telling Muslims after he warned them from apostates in (5:54) that their real friends are:  Allah Almighty, Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him, and the good Muslims who keep up with their prayers and charity, and who humbly worship their God.

Let us look at Noble Verse 3:90 "But those who reject faith after they accepted it, and then go on adding to their defiance of faith never will their repentance be accepted; for they are those who have (of set purpose) gone astray."  Here in this holy verse we see Allah Almighty rejecting the faith of those who keep coming back and forth to Islam.  In order for a human being to accept Islam as his religion, he must be certain about it first.  Allah Almighty's path is wide open, and his mercy is greater than this universe.  This Holy Verse also does not order the death of those who leave Islam.

The path to Allah Almighty is always open and Allah Almighty will be your friend as in verse (5:55) above, and he will forgive your sins for you once you repent as in the following verse:  "Except for those that repent (Even) after that, And make amends;  for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful." (3:89).

 

The absolute freedom of religion in Islam:

Some group of Muslims believe in killing apostates because they follow a Hadith (Saying) from Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him regarding the apostates.  While Islam was weak and still growing among Jews, Christians and Pagans, Muslims did not have the full and complete religion that they needed.  Some Jews and Christians wanted to take advantage of such situation to destroy Islam.  They had a plan to adopt Islam first and then desert it, thus creating the impression that Islam was not a religion worth adopting.

Let us look at Noble Verse 3:72 "A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam)."  To protect Islam from such Satanic attempts done by a group of the people of the book (Jews and Christians), Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him ordered the death of those who enter Islam and leave it.  This temporary law that was put by our Prophet had stopped the hypocrites from the People of the Book who carried so much hatred toward Islam to enter Islam and desert it afterwards. 

Allah Almighty ordered the Muslims to kill the pagans who fought against the Muslims.  The following Noble Verse talks about all of the enemies who fought the Muslims long and bloody battles:

Let us look at Noble Verse 2:191 "And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith."  The killing of the pagans who fought the Muslims during the time when Islam was not yet complete was essential. 

Important Note:  Noble Verse 2:191 above is not dedicated to the apostates as some Muslim fanatics use it to prove that the Noble Quran orders the killing of apostates.   In fact, it doesn't even mention the apostates.  It talks in general about slaying the pagans who declare wars on the Muslims.  The pagans would obviously include the apostates who deserted Islam, but the Noble Verse certainly doesn't DIRECTLY order the killing of anyone who deserts Islam.

Allah Almighty promised that He will protect the Noble Quran from any corruption:

"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption).  (The Noble Quran, 15:9)"

"Nay, this is a Glorious Quran, (inscribed) in a Tablet Preserved!  (The Noble Quran, 85:21-22)"

Let us look at Noble Verse 5:3 ".....This day those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion:  Yet fear them not But fear Me (Allah).  This day have I (Allah) perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your (complete) religion....".  So long as Islam was not organized, with its own community and its own laws, the unbelievers and the Hypocrites from the People of the Book and the Pagan Arabs had hoped to wean the believers from the new teaching.  Now that hope is gone forever with the complete organization of Islam.

Let us look at Noble Verses 15:2-3 "Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam.   Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them)."

Let us look at Noble Verses 10:99-100 "If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed, all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe! No soul can believe, except by the will of God, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand."

Let us look at Noble Verse 18:29 "Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it): for the wrong doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on!"

Let us look at Noble Verse 27:92 "And to rehearse the Qur'an: and if any accept guidance, they do it for the good of their own souls, and if any stray, say: 'I am only a Warner.'"   

Let us look at Noble Verse 10:99 "If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe!"   Allah Almighty doesn't like us to compel people into belief.

"No soul can believe, except by the will of God, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand.  (The Noble Quran, 10:100)"   Allah Almighty helps those whom He likes to be guided to His Straight Path.   If anyone doesn't believe, or reverts back from Islam, it is then his loss and it is the Will of Allah Almighty. 

"Say: 'Behold all that is in the heavens and on earth'; but neither Signs nor Warners profit those who believe not.  Do they then expect (any thing) but (what happened in) the days of the men who passed away before them? Say: 'Wait ye then: for I, too, will wait with you.'  (The Noble Quran, 10:101-102)"   Notice how Allah Almighty orders us to say "Wait" to those who reject Islam.  This clearly says that we can't force anyone into Islam, or punish anyone for leaving Islam.  

Let us look at Noble Verse 10:108 "Say: 'O ye men! Now Truth hath reached you from your Lord! those who receive guidance, do so for the good of their own souls; those who stray, do so to their own loss: and I am not (set) over you to arrange your affairs.'"  Whoever believes benefits his soul and whoever doesn't, harms it, and Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is not in charge of people to arrange their affairs.  Only Allah Almighty is.

"Say: 'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you.   If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance.  The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).  (The Noble Quran, 24:54)"  Prophet Muhammad's duty was only to preach.

"Those who pervert the Truth in Our Signs are not hidden from Us.  Which is better? he that is cast into the Fire, or he that comes safe through, on the Day of Judgement?  Do what ye will: Verily He seeth (clearly) all that ye do.  (The Noble Quran, 41:40)"  Here we clearly see Allah Almighty giving a freedom of choice for people to choose or refuse Islam.

"And those who take as protectors others besides Him - Allah doth watch over them; and thou art not the disposer of their affairs.   (The Noble Quran, 42:6)"   Again, Allah Almighty here told Prophet Muhammad that he has no authority over those who reject Islam.

"It is true thou wilt not be able to guide every one whom thou lovest; but Allah Guides those whom He will and He Knows those who receive guidance.  (The Noble Quran, 28:56)"  Again, no authority to Prophet Muhammad over those who accept or reject Islam.

Let us look at Noble Verse 2:256 "Let there be no compulsion in religion:  Truth stands out clear from error:  whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks.  And Allah heareth and knoweth all things."  The Holy Quran prohibits Muslims to force any person into Islam.  Muslims must not let people resent Islam and Muslims.  They must leave people decide for themselves because the "Truth stands out clear from error" (2:256).  

Compulsion is incompatible with religion:  Because (1) religion depends upon faith and will, and these would be meaningless by force; (2) Truth and Error have been so clearly shown up by the mercy of Allah Almighty that there should be no doubt in the minds of any persons of good will as to the fundamentals of faith; (3) Allah Almighty's protection is continuous, and His Plan is always to lead us from the depths of darkness into the clearest light.

 

The following was sent to me from Vipor Poison; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:

"I found another verse in the Quran that dealt with apostates. Noble Verse 4:137 "Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe (again) and (again) reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief,- Allah will not forgive them nor guide them nor guide them on the way."

Notice that the Quran says those who reject faith and then BELIEVE and again DISBELIEVE. if a Muslim rejects faith and is then killed for doing so how will he live to again BELIEVE and then DISBELIEVE.  The atmosphere of this verse is that of free will and freedom of choice to everyone. If Allah wanted he would have said something about the punishment, if there was any, of those who reject Islam after accepting it. but Allah takes this to be clearly a private matter between them and Allah.

I found many verses in the Quran that teach us NO PUNISHMENT for an apostate BUT I found no verse that says the contrary.

Here is another verse about the freedom of expression in the Quran. many translators translate this wrongly and kill the meaning of the word making it a bogus and strange statement.  Noble Verse 39:18 "Those who listen to the word, then follow the best of it; those are they whom Allah has guided, and those it is who are the men of understanding."

The Quran tells the Muslims to listen to every thing and follow only the best of what is said. it does not tell them to kill people if they say something that is not according to the cultural norm."

 

The following two sets of Noble Verses were sent to me by brother Rached Blili; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

Let us look at Noble Verses 109:1-6 "Say : O ye that reject Faith!  I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship.  And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship.  To you be your Way, and to me mine."

Let us look at Noble Verse 42:15 "Now then, for that (reason), call (them to the Faith), and stand steadfast as thou art commanded, nor follow thou their vain desires; but say:   'I believe in the Book which God has sent down; and I am commanded to judge justly between you. God is our Lord and your Lord: for us (is the responsibility for) our deeds, and for you for your deeds. There is no contention between us and you. God will bring us together, and to Him is (our) Final Goal.'"

The Noble Quran in all of the above Noble Verses is crystal clear about providing freedom of religion and choice to all people, Muslims and non-Muslims.

 

So how come Muslim Fundamentalists execute those who desert Islam then?

Well quite frankly, I don't know how much trouble this section will get me from my readers, but I personally believe that as long as Islam has fanatics like the Taliban and the Saudi Arabia regime who oppress women by prohibiting them from education, even though Islam clearly allows education for women, and prohibiting them also from driving, and oppress men by forcing them to grow beards, even though beards are NOT mandatory in Islam, Muslims will always fail to give the Truthful and Most Beautiful picture of Islam.

As we've seen above, it is quite clear, and beyond any questioning that Allah Almighty, Prophet Muhammad's GOD prohibited compulsion in religion and allowed the absolute freedom of religion to everyone.

When Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him executed apostates, he did it because Muslims were at war time and because Islam was still partial, and Muslims needed protection from the hypocrites of the Jews and Christians who purposely entered Islam and deserted it later. 

The Sayings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him regarding killing the renegades came when Islam as I said was partial and the Muslims were dealing with wars all the time.  So if the person wasn't with the Muslims, then he was certainly with his people, the pagans and the other non-Muslims, and he would've then had to join the evil forces to fight the Muslims.  So the case back then was different than today.

I have no sympathy for those hypocrites of the Jews and Christians who got executed:

"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam).  (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"

Please read "The absolute freedom of religion in Islam" section above for more details and explanations.

There is a difference between being a hateful person and a religious person.  The Islamic fanatics like the Taliban in Afghanistan STRIVE on being hateful and oppressing to people. 

Also, the Saudi Arabian fanatic regime were the first to sell themselves cheap to America and the West when Iraq invaded Kuwait.  They allowed for the non-Muslim troops to enter the Holy Lands which Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him clearly prohibited.  They could've solved the conflict by the Arabs and the Muslims only by sending Islamic troops to liberate Kuwait if the Iraqis insisted on not pulling out of Kuwait.  I mean, those fanatics are so "MEN" to oppress Saudi women and prohibit them from driving, but when it comes to their gods, the Americans and the American Almighty Dollar, they are willing to admit them to the forbidden Holy Lands, and to make allies with them against other Muslims, and to bend over for them too, if you know what I mean!  That is a clear hypocrisy!

Please visit Islam prohibits forming alliance with Jews and Christians and non-Muslims.

Quite honestly, I believe that Muslims will eventually reach a point where they will be very straight and religious people, and will over throw the Islamic fanatics, like any revolution history in Europe where the oppressed people raised up against the dictators and killed them.

Of course I am not suggesting that getting rid of the Islamic fanatics means accepting the Westerner's Satanic life style.  Personally, I think both sides are too excessive.  The Islamic fanatics are too excessive in their oppression, while the West is too excessive in their sexual and Satanic openness.

Please visit Why do some Muslims call Americans and Westerners "Great Satan"?

Islam is a very flexible and dynamic religion, and is the truthful way of life for all times and all places.  The Taliban's Islam isn't.  Believe it or not, they actually consider Muslims like me as infidels who deserve to die.

To any of the Muslim fanatics, anyone who is against them is against GOD, and therefore he/she deserves to die.  That is what Islam calls living in the "darkness", because GOD Almighty is certainly not ruled by those hypocrites, and He is not waiting for some worthless fanatics to determine who deserves to live and who deserves to die without committing any crime.

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My rebuttal to the Muslim Fanatics about the historical Muslims' battles with the Apostates:

According to the Islamic history, when Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him died, some of the Muslims had deserted Islam for several reasons.  The biggest of those reasons was that they opposed paying the Zakah (2.5% of annual income of Islamic taxes for the poor).  The Arabs before Islam were used to exploiting each others.  The strong ate the poor, and high interest rates were enforced on loans given to the poors to ultimately force them to sell of their cattles, sons, daughters and/or wives as slaves.

After the death of our Prophet, some of the rich hypocrites decided to join with the Pagan Arab tribes to fight the Muslims and end Islam.  The leader of the apostates/renegades was Musylama Al-Kath-thab or Musylama the liar in English.  He started his army of infidels in what we call today the country of Oman, which is more than 1,000 miles away from Mecca and Medina where the Muslims resided.

After Musylama became strong and popular and was able to gather a big amount of pagans and hypocrites to form an army, he led them to march to Mecca and Medina to fight the Muslims.  When his army finally reached the mountains near Mecca, the Muslims had fought them several battles until he ultimately was killed and his army was soundly defeated.

The objection that I have with the Muslim fanatics is for the following reasons:

1- It was the renegades or apostates that declared the war on the Muslims.  The Muslims did not start the war.

2- We can't use the story of Musylama Al-Kath-thab to prove that it is ok today to kill any person who deserts Islam.  Musylama was not a peaceful renegade.  He wanted to destroy the Muslims through war.  He had to be fought and killed.  We can't use him as a standard and kill all renegades.

3- As I proved in this article, Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran talked about the apostates several times, and not a single command exists in the Noble Quran that orders the killing of any of them.

4- The Sayings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him regarding killing the renegades came when Islam was partial and the Muslims were dealing with wars all the time.  So if the person wasn't with the Muslims, then he was certainly with his people, the pagans and the other non-Muslims, and he would've then had to join the evil forces to fight the Muslims.  So the case back then was different than today.

5- Today, if a week-hearted and easily persuaded person for instance decides to embrace Islam and then gets easily persuaded to leave Islam, and then gets easily persuaded to embrace Islam again, and then gets easily persuaded to leave it and so on, then how is it right for us to apply the things that were applied to the hypocrites and Musylama Al-Kath-thab during and after our Prophet's time to this innocent individual?

6- We must never forget Allah Almighty's command that honors the freedom of religion and choice in Islam in Noble Verse 2:256 and the others as shown in this article.

7- The Muslim fanatics claim that the Caliphs did not apply Noble Verse 2:256 and others to the renegades, because the Caliphs knew that these Noble Verses are not applicable to them.  My response to this is that we (1) Don't know if the Caliphs had any choice to apply them back in the hostile environment that they existed in back then; (2) The Caliphs are not the measuring stick that the Muslims today have to follow, especially after knowing that the Caliphs themselves had contradicted each others several times before on very major Islamic issues: [1] [2].

 

Does "Islam" really mean to force someone to Islam or else kill him?

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Conclusion:

I truly believe that Islam doesn't allow killing of apostates.  Noble Verse 2:256 "Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion:  Truth stands out clear from error..." which gives total and absolute religious freedom which was one of the last Noble Verses revealed negates the saying of our dear and beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him which temporarily and for that period of time and for that special case only ordered the killing of the hypocrites who entered Islam and deserted it to confuse and weaken the Muslims' faith when Islam was still incomplete.  Noble Verse 2:256 came way after Prophet Muhammad's Saying.

Muslims today must allow religious freedom because Islam today is a full and complete religion and it's laws are organized and its revelations are complete, and because Islam simply orders us to do so.  I think that we must start thinking logically and take things from our religion (Islam) by their wisdom and reasons, and not literally.  If Allah Almighty (God) wanted us to kill Apostates for all time, then he would have mentioned it in the Noble Quran and ordered us to do so just like he did for other situations (such as killing murderers).  Allah Almighty never ordered us to kill any Apostate because Islam is a religion for all times and all places.  

We must allow freedom of religious choice for Muslims in our Islamic countries, because again, Islam orders us to do so, and because it is part of our religion to have freedom.  Allah Almighty prohibited compulsion (forcing others) to Islam (2:256), and he wants us to choose or leave Islam by complete choice, because he is the Supreme Judge Al-Knowing Most Merciful.

Personally, I strongly believe that Allah Almighty wanted for Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to give temporary laws to fix certain problems and corruption that existed in the society 1400 years ago.  The reason why Allah Almighty didn't Send down the law as a Revelation in the Noble Quran is because as I said, He meant for it to be only a temporary law and not a Law that must be followed for all times and all places.

The Muslim fanatics do not represent Islam in anyway.  They are oppressing people to both men and women, and they lack a great deal of humanity and love in them.  They are for the most part very hateful to others, and Islam has no place for such people.

 

 

He wrote:

    We pick up the story of Islam’s creation account where we left off, with Iblis, better known as Lucifer. I’m going to work the narrative through the Qur’an. In the 7th surah, called “The Wall Between Heaven and Hell,” Allah, or I should say, Muhammad, corrupts one of the earliest Genesis stories. But he gets sidetracked with intolerance and terrorism before he dives into his version. So in deference to the Islamic apologists, I’ll keep the whole passage in context, starting at the beginning.
    Before we start, however, you should know that the only reason we can read this or any surah is because an “angel” or a “clanging bell” dictated it (or gonged it) to Muhammad directly from the “Memorial Tablets” written at Allah’s command by the “Pen” before the universe was created. 007.001 “This Book [the Qur’an] has been sent down to you.” The opening verse is not accurate. The Qur’an wasn’t a book. Based upon the historical record, nothing would be committed to writing or compiled into a book for another century. “Do not hesitate to warn the unbelievers through it.” This “warning” was not for the unbelievers’ benefit or for their salvation. All non-Muslims are predestined to hell. So the threat of impending punishments which could not be averted strongly suggests that the author was either demented or a sadist.
    Muhammad’s schizophrenic spirit said: 007.003 “Follow the Revelation given to you from your Lord and follow not as protectors other than Him [third person]. Little do you remember My [first person, singular] warning. How many towns have We [plural] destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them. No cry did they utter but: ‘We were wrong-doers.’” The Islamic god’s taste for terror is shocking. It’s hard to fathom scripture bragging, “How many towns have We destroyed?” or, “Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept.” What would possess someone to claim this was godly? The Islamic “god,” by his own admission, is a terrorist.
    Before we move on, I want to bring your attention to the motivation behind this opening salvo. Muhammad wanted his detractors to know that his god would terrorize anyone who rejected “those to whom Our Message was sent [Muslims] or those by whom We sent it [Muhammad].” It’s a warning: “If you deny Muhammad, his followers will terrorize you.”
    007.007 “Verily, We shall recount their whole story with knowledge, for We were never absent at any time or place.” Muhammad, speaking on behalf of his spirit, is acknowledging that the stories in the Qur’an appear plagiarized. But they are not, he protests, because his “god” was omnipresent. He is preparing us for an onslaught of bastardized Hebrew scripture.
   “Those whose scale of good will be heavy will prosper. Those whose scale will be light will find their souls in perdition [hell], for they wrongfully treated Our Signs.” That’s the basis of the religion of Islam. Good works. The more you do the heavier the “good” side of your scale becomes. Unfortunately, all the good deeds in the world can’t outweigh predestination. And the best “good deed” according to Muhammad is to die a jihadist terrorizing infidels.
    Want proof? From Bukhari’s, Book of Jihad, Chapter 1, number 1204: “A man came to Allah’s Messenger and said, ‘Guide me to such a deed as equals Jihad in reward. ‘ He said, ‘I do not find such a deed.’” Bukhari:V4B52N50 “The Prophet said, ‘A single endeavor of fighting in Allah's Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.’” As we move into the Medina war surahs I will share scores of these with you.
    Returning to the 7th surah, Allah’s miffed men aren’t thankful. 007.010 “It is We who have placed you [Adam] with authority on earth, and provided you with means for the fulfillment of your life: small are the thanks that you give! Little give you thanks!”
    “It is We who created you and gave you shape; then We ordered the angels to fall and prostrate themselves to Adam. And they fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who made prostration.” Iblis was Lucifer, a fallen angel better known as Satan. The Qur’an says that he was a jinn, or demonic spirit. Both the Qur’an and Bible agree that Lucifer rebelled against God.
    According to the Bible, as an angel, Lucifer was merely a tool. His relationship with Yahweh was like that of a private to a general. Without choice angels cannot love. And they are incapable of creativity, which may explain why so much of the Qur’an was plagiarized. Lucifer’s existence was defined by the same terms that gave Islam its name and authority: “submit and obey.” The Bible says, when Lucifer rebelled, a third of the angels were cast out of heaven and became demons. They lashed out at Yahweh by deceiving man, separating us from God, just as they had been.
    This all led to the most infamous meal in human history. I share this Biblical perspective because once again, Muhammad, lacking imagination, plagiarized it, albeit with his own unique embellishments. 007.012 “‘What prevented you [Iblis/Lucifer] from prostrating when I commanded you?’ He said: ‘I am better than Adam: You created me from fire and him from clay.’ So Allah said: ‘Get down from this place: it is not for you to be arrogant here: get out, you are degraded, for you are of the meanest of creatures.’” The request is odd, yet the Qur’an never explains why Allah wanted his angels to humble themselves before man.
    In the Qur’an, Satan protests. 007.014 “‘Give me a reprieve until the time they are raised.’ Allah said: ‘You have your reprieve.’ He said: ‘Because you have thrown me out, I will lie in wait, lurking in ambush for them on Your Right Path. I will assault them from behind, from their right and left. You will find them ungrateful.’ Allah said: ‘Get out of here. You are disgraced and expelled. If any follow, I will fill Hell with all of you.’” The Qur’an has clearly said that Satan is deceptive, and that he’s going to hell. This is important because, from this point on, Allah will claim to be deceitful and we will find him in hell, tormenting men.
    Continuing to steal from Genesis, the Islamic scriptures say: 007.019 “We said: ‘Adam, dwell with your wife in the Garden and enjoy: but approach not this tree or you will run into harm and become wrong-doers.’ Then Satan began to whisper suggestions to them, bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them. He said: ‘Your Lord only forbid you this tree, lest you should become angels, immortal, living forever.’” In the Garden, Adam was immortal. Seducing Adam with a promise of immortality would be like seducing Arabs with a promise of more sand. Besides, why would Adam want to become an angel if the angels were bowing to him?
    007.021 “He swore to them that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought about their fall.” This is interesting. Muslims claim that there was no fall of man, thus no reason for the Messiah to come and reconcile fallen man back into fellowship with God. Further, Satan is mimicking Muhammad. The prophet incessantly claimed to be the “sincere adviser,” yet through deceit, he brought men to their knees.
    “When they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together leaves, covering their bodies. Allah called: ‘Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy?’” For those who are curious: Tabari I:299 “Scholars of the nation of our Prophet say, ‘The tree which Allah forbade Adam and his spouse to eat was wheat.’” Yes, a wheat tree.
    007.023 “They said: ‘Allah, we have wronged our own souls: If you do not forgive us, we shall be of the lost losers.’ Allah said: ‘Go down from here as enemies of each other.’” Allah seems to think that the Garden of Eden, a.k.a. the Garden of Bliss, is in heaven. Thus when Adam rejected Allah, he was sent down, not cast out. Also, did you notice the line: “you will be enemies of each other?” He was speaking to Adam and Eve, foreshadowing the Islamic view of women.
    Allah continued: “‘On earth will be your dwelling place and your means of livelihood for a time.’ He [third person, singular] said: “Therein shall you live, and therein shall you die, and from it shall you be raised. O children of Adam. [How did they get kids so fast?] We [first person plural] have sent clothing down to you to cover your shame, and for beauty and clothing that guards against evil. This is of the communications of Allah [now third person singular].’” Why did they need clothes to guard against evil? If their lusts carried them away—who were they going to be adulterous with?
    An interesting sidebar on the first kids comes to us in this Tradition: Tabari I:321 “When Eve became heavy with her first pregnancy, Satan came to her before she gave birth and said, ‘Eve, what is that in your womb?’ She said, ‘I do not know.’ He asked, ‘Where will it come out from—your nose, your eye, or your ear?’ She replied, ‘I do not know.’ He said, ‘Don’t you think, if it comes out healthy, you should obey me in whatever I command you?’ When she said, ‘Yes,’ he said: ‘Name him Abd al-Harith Iblis—Slave to the cursed!’ She agreed.” Believable dialog, don’t you think? Just the kind of foundation you’d expect to underpin a great religion. “Adam said to him [Iblis/Lucifer], ‘I obeyed you once before and you caused me to be driven out of Paradise.’ So he refused to obey him and called the child Abd Ar-Rahman.”
    Ar-Rahman was the name of Muhammad’s first “god.” The 55th surah, named in Ar-Rahman’s honor, begins: “Ar-Rahman bestowed the Qur’an, created man, and taught him to express clearly. The sun and moon revolve to his computation and the grasses and the trees bow to Him in adoration.… He created man.” With multiple gods, Islam became pagan monotheism.
    And with multiple truths, Islam is flawed revelation: Tabari I:275 “They ate from it and as a result their secret part that had been concealed became apparent.” It hadn’t been much of a marriage up to that point. But if that’s true, how did they get kids? And why does the Islamic Tradition say: Tabari I:299 “It was the cover of fingernails that had kept their secret parts concealed.”
    007.027 “O you Children of Adam, let not Satan seduce you, in the same manner as he got your parents out of the Garden, making them disrobe, stripping them of their clothing, to expose their shame.” Just six verses earlier, Adam was nude, sinned, and thus felt the need for clothing. He made his own, sewing together leaves. Then Allah sent down supernatural clothes from AlMart. Now we’re told that Satan stripped them? “For he [Satan/Lucifer] and his tribe [of demons/jinn] watch you from a position where you cannot see them. We made the jinn friends of the unbelievers.” So there you have it. Satan, Iblis, and jinn are all cut from the same cloth—all made of fire, all from the same tribe. These invisible evil spirits, or demons, lurk in the shadows ready to ambush men, deceiving them. Yet, as you shall discover in one of the most bizarre Qur’anic passages, these pesky demons think Muhammad and Allah are swell, calling them “Prophet” and “Lord.” They are employed to authenticate the Qur’an.
    007.030 “Some He has guided: as for others, error is their due. They deserve loss in that they took the devils instead of Allah for their friends and think that they are rightly guided.” 007.035 “Children of Adam, whenever messengers come from amongst you, rehearsing My [singular] signs and revelations to you, act rightly so that you have no fear, nor reason to grieve. But those who reject Our [plural] signs and scorn them with arrogance, they are inmates of the Fire forever.” What messengers, what revelations? Allah is allegedly talking to Adam’s kids. The first prophet and scripture wouldn’t arrive for over two thousand years. The Islamic god had no concept of time. Worse, he couldn’t even keep himself together, talking in first person singular and plural in the same verse. Somebody was very confused.
    The second part of this passage is revealing. As we dig deeper into the Qur’an you’ll find that the most repeated theme is: “reject Muhammad and you’re toast.” Although he tries a number of variants, his favorites twist Bible stories, as he has done here. Muhammad was referring to himself when he warned Adam’s kids not to reject the “messenger among them.”
   007.037 “Who is more unjust: one who invents a lie against Allah or one who rejects His Signs? For such, their appointed destiny must reach them from when Our messengers of death arrive and take their souls. [These guys sound a little like Hitler’s S.S.] They say: ‘Now where is that to which you cried to beside Allah?’ They will reply, ‘They have left us in the lurch.’” There were no signs, no miracles, no proofs of any kind to confirm Muhammad’s claim to being a prophet or the Qur’an’s claim to being divinely inspired. The repetition of lies like this was just part of Muhammad’s warped game. It’s standard megalomaniac behavior. Tell a big enough lie, say it often enough, and enough will believe it for you to prevail.
    007.038 “Allah’s messengers of death will say: ‘Enter the fire, join the company of men and jinn who passed away before you.’ Every time a fresh group of people or nation enters, they curse those that went into the Fire before them. The most recent entrants into Hell ask: ‘Lord, they led us astray, so give them a double torment in the Fire.’ He will say: ‘For each there is already a double dose of torment…. So taste the punishment.’”
    It’s stunning to the point of agony that a billion people, through seduction, indoctrination, and compulsion, have been led to believe that these hateful words are God’s. Yet while stunning, it’s not baffling. All Muhammad had to do was to convince fifty well-armed fools. While it took him ten years, it shouldn’t have been hard. Mecca was a town of five thousand. All but a handful were illiterate. Steeped in pagan superstition, already believing in the pagan idol of the Ka’aba, the young and the rebellious, the poor and the destitute, were ripe for the picking.

 

My response:

You mentioned two points:

1-  Hell.

2-  Terrorism.


Here is my response to your points:

1-  What is wrong with the above Noble Verses that you mentioned?  Hell is a terrible place, and Islam describes it in good details to warn the believers.  Allah Almighty also described Heaven as much or even more to Give Glad Tidings to the believers about the Pleasures and Happiness that they will live in.  Your pornful bible, the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", is more concerned about women and who the Biblical Prophets could get away with marrying literally 100s of wives each!

To the reader, please visit the following links to understand fully what happened between satan and Allah Almighty, and how Allah Almighty described Heaven and Hell in the Noble Quran:

Is Satan in Islam the same as Satan in the Bible?

Would you describe Heaven and Hell according to the Islamic doctrine?

Will Hell eventually be empty?  For how long will Allah Almighty punish some of His creation?

 

2-  As to terrorism, it only exists in your pornful bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like wine:

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." 

Here is a proof from the Noble Quran that this verse, Numbers 31:17 is a corruption and lie inserted into the bible:

"Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections, depressing a small group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief.  (The Noble Quran, 28:4)"

Allah Almighty is clearly against killing the men and keeping the women in the Noble Quran.  The pornful bible on the other hand promotes it!


Continuing with terrorism in the pornful bible:

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children?  Why kill all of the non-virgin women?  Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars.  Women rarely fought in battle fields.    So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic.  He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"  

"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."  This is verified at this link.

Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins?

 

Will Craig Winn now call his Bible as a book of terrorism?

 

 

He wrote:

    Let’s pick up the Islamic story of Satan and hell from the Hadith. I will be quoting from the History of al-Tabari, Creation to the Flood. Tabari I:249 “There was an angelic tribe of jinn, and Iblis belonged to it. Iblis [Satan/Lucifer] was one of the noblest angels and governed the most honored tribe.” Tabari I:251 “Whoever among them says: I am a god besides Him, will have Hell as his reward from Us. That is how We reward the wrongdoers.’ [Qur’an 21:29] This verse was revealed specifically for Iblis, when he said what he said. May Allah curse him and have him stoned!” We’ve just been given a rather interesting clue: the Qur’an was revealed for Lucifer’s benefit. And ask yourself, how is a “stone” going to curse or punish a spirit?
    “Iblis belonged to a tribal group called jinn. They were created from the fire of simoom. All of the angels except this tribal group were created from light. The jinn mentioned in the Qur’an were created from a tongue of white-hot fire blazing on its side. [Qur’an 55:15] The first to dwell on the earth were jinn. They caused corruption on it and shed blood and killed each other. [Since demons are spirits, how could they shed blood and bleed?] Allah sent Iblis with an army of angels to fight against the jinn. Iblis and the angels with him caused a bloodbath, but his success went to his head.” Allah made Lucifer a traitor against his own tribe, which is exactly what happened with Muhammad in Mecca.
    Tabari I:252 “Allah created some creatures and said, ‘Prostrate yourselves before Adam!’ They replied, ‘We shall not do that.’ Allah sent a fire to consume them.”
    Four things should be perfectly clear. First, if you don’t prostrate yourself, you’re scorched. And while that sounds extreme, it’s designed to frighten Muslims. Muhammad is quoted in a Hadith from Bukhari entitled “Prayer is Obligatory” saying: Bukhari:V1B11N617 “I would order someone to collect firewood and another to lead prayer. Then I would go burn the houses of men who did not present themselves at the compulsory prayer and prostration.” Islam means submission, and the sign of submission is prostration. The mosque, the centerpiece of Islamic control, is derived from the Arabic word for “the place of prostration.”
    Second, Satan is a jinn. Third, jinn are bad. And fourth, everybody associated with jinn loves fire—Muhammad and Allah included. I share this because of the impact it has on two of the most troubling narratives in the Qur’an. And those passages, surprisingly enough, don’t include the Satanic Verses, in which Muhammad received scripture from Lucifer. They are instead ones in which Satan’s jinn are used to endorse the Qur’an.
    The first of these demonic interludes begins, like so many others, with a threatening rant before it torments us with nonsense. 046.027 “We have destroyed habitations all around you, having explained Our signs in different ways to them that they may turn back. Why then did the gods they had taken apart from Allah as protectors not come to their aid? In fact they strayed away from them.” This is weird. Did the other gods stray away from men, making them real, or did men stray away from the other gods, making the condemnation irrelevant?
    “It was all a lie what they had contrived!” After enduring a litany of Muhammad’s whoppers, that’s quite a claim. But nothing compared to this...046.029 “Remember when We turned a company of jinn towards you to listen to the Qur’an? They arrived when it was being recited, and they said: ‘Keep silent.’ When it was over they came back to their tribe, warning them: ‘O our people [fellow demonic jinn], we have listened to a Book which has come down after Moses, confirming what was sent down before it, showing the way to the truth and a path that is straight.” The jinn are endorsing the Qur’an as being truthful, a straight path. That’s like Churchill asking Nazis to confirm his policies. Can you imagine a god so desperate he’d solicit demonic assistance? The Good Housekeeping Seal-of-Approval, this is not.
    And it didn’t stop there. The demons went on to say: 046.031 “Jinn, listen to [Muhammad] the Messenger of Allah, and believe in him, so that He may forgive you your sins and save you from a painful doom.” Satan’s demonic spirits just proclaimed that Muhammad was their savior and their messenger. Either Muhammad’s Qur’an recital was so convicting it saved devils or the devils are deceiving men by calling his lie “true.” You make the call.
    Back in Paradise, the Prophet’s Companions explain, Tabari I:273 “Iblis was cursed, and Adam settled in. Adam used to go about all alone, not having a spouse to dwell with. He fell asleep, and when he woke up, he found sitting at his head a woman who had been created by Allah from his rib. [I know you’ve heard this before. So had Muhammad.] He asked her what she was, and she replied, ‘A woman.’ He asked for what purpose she had been created, and she replied, ‘For you to dwell with me.’ The angels, looking to find out the extent of Adam’s knowledge, asked him her name. He replied, ‘Eve, because she was created from a living thing.’ And Allah said, ‘Adam, dwell in Paradise! Eat freely of its plenty wherever you wish.’” The omission of God’s warning not to eat of the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil may not have been left out of this account by accident. In Islam there is no choice, therefore, no reason for the tree. While it exits in other variations, it serves no purpose. Man is predestined to his fate. The reason for the tree in Genesis is to provide Adam with a choice. And it is the same choice we must all make—love God or reject him. Love cannot be compelled. Even God can’t require love.
    A Tradition reveals: “He then cast slumber upon Adam as we have heard from the people of the Torah among the people of the Book.” I’m told that confession is good for the soul. At least they had the good sense and common courtesy to say where Muhammad stole his material.
    Tabari I:275 “Iblis wanted to meet them in Paradise, but the keepers prevented him from entering. He went to a snake, an animal with four feet like a camel. Iblis tried to persuade it to let him enter its mouth and take him to Adam. The snake agreed, passed by the keepers, and entered without their knowledge, because that was Allah’s plan.” If Allah’s plan was to help Satan deceive man, you know whose side Allah was on.
   “Iblis talked to Adam from the mouth of the snake, but Adam paid no attention to him. So Iblis said, ‘Adam, may I lead you to the tree of eternity and a power that never decays…. Both you and Eve will have eternal life and will never die.’” Since there was no death or dying in Paradise, how would Adam know what decay was? How could he be enticed to be eternal when he was created that way? “I give you good advice. But by tearing their clothes, Iblis wanted to show them their secret parts, which had been concealed from them. From his reading of the books of the angels, he knew what Adam did not, that they had secret parts.” Wait a minute. Adam was supposed to be smart and the angels stupid. Now we’re told the angels are smart enough to have books and Adam is oblivious.
    Tabari I:276 “Adam refused to eat but Eve came forward and ate. Then she said, ‘Eat, Adam. I have and it has done me no harm.’ But when Adam ate, their secret parts became apparent to them and they started to cover themselves with leaves of Paradise stitched together.” [Qur’an 7:22] I don’t get it. Why would showing Adam and Eve their private parts seduce them into rebellion? If sex isn’t good, why is it the essence of Islamic Paradise?
    As you might expect, there is more than one version of this story. So for some comic relief let’s look at another variant: Tabari I:276 “Iblis proposed to the animals on earth that they should take him into Paradise so that he could speak with Adam and his spouse, but every animal refused. Finally, he spoke to the snake. It was dressed and walking on four feet, but Allah then undressed it and made it walk on its belly.” Conjuring up the image of a dressed snake walking with a fiery jinn in its mouth, on four feet, being undressed by god, takes some doing.
    Over the next few pages, the man solely responsible for inventing Islam, Allah, and the Qur’an said, “The tree’s branches were intertwined and it bore fruit which the angels ate to live eternally.” Then, “Adam went inside the tree to hide.” And, “Eve cut the tree and it bled. The feather that covered Adam and Eve dropped off.” So, Tabari I:278 “Now Eve, as you caused the tree to bleed, you will bleed every new moon, and you, snake, I will cut off your feet and you will walk slithering on your face.” For giggles: “Some camels were originally jinn.” And: Tabari I:279 “It was a tree which made whoever ate from it defecate. But there must be no faeces in Paradise.” Since the angels ate from it to live eternally, where might they have answered the call of nature?
    For another insight into the mind of Muhammad and therefore into the character of his god: Tabari I:280 “Allah said, ‘It is My obligation to make her bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.’” Zayd, Muhammad’s adopted son said, Tabari I:280 “Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of the world menstruate and are stupid.” It’s a wonder there are any Muslim women. It’s a wonder feminist organizations are silent. Why do they tolerate a doctrine that demeans six hundred million women?
   Tabari I:281 “I heard him swear by Allah unequivocally, ‘As long as Adam was in his right mind, he would never have eaten from the tree. Eve gave him wine and got him drunk. She led him to the tree.’” Muhammad didn’t like women very much. Bukhari:V4B55N547 “The Prophet said, ‘But for the Israelis, meat would not decay, and if it were not for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands.’” He didn’t like Jews, either.
   Tabari I:282 “The Messenger said, ‘Friday was the Lord of Days. On Friday, Adam was created and cast down to earth. The duration of Adam and Eve’s stay in Paradise was five hours.’” As usual, Muhammad had a reason for enduring the criticism these preposterous accounts surely brought him. Friday was important. Muhammad and his followers had observed the Jewish Sabbath and prayed facing the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. (It seemed only natural; they had taken everything else from Jews.) But eventually the Jews in Yathrib, today’s Medina, mocked the Messenger one too many times. So Muhammad decided to differentiate his Islam from the religion of his tormentors. Saturday was theirs. Sunday was taken—something about a resurrection—so Friday became the lord of days. All Muhammad needed was a little justification.
    What do you suppose happened to Adam once he was deported? The Bible picks up the story in Mesopotamia, where recorded history began, but not Islam. Muhammad had another agenda. Tabari I:290 “Allah cast Adam down to earth. The place where he fell down was the land of India.” Why India, you ask? Because: “When Adam was cast down there, some of the smell of Paradise clung to India’s trees.” Aisha, Muhammad’s wife told us that he said, “The things I love most are women and perfume.” The Prophet was simply trying to excuse his preoccupation with smelling good. If his perfumes were created in paradise, smelling good was religious rather than self-indulgent.
    Tabari I:291 “Adam was cast down in India and Eve in Juddah. He went in search of her, and eventually they were united. Eve drew near him, hence Muzdalifah. They recognized each other, hence Arafat. And they were united in Jam, hence Jam.” If the India story was conceived to rationalize the prophet’s obsession with perfume, why this elaborate tale? It’s all about Muhammad’s third and fourth vices—power and money. He wanted to legitimize and then control the pagan hajj. It was the source of the region’s power and wealth during his day. Each of the places Muhammad claims the amorous couple traversed were just outside Mecca. Going to them was part of the pagan rites he later incorporated into Islam. So he was validating his claim to the religious scam he would soon steal.
    Tabari was criticized for these stories. So he said, “The soundness of this is established by a report serving as conclusive proof that Adam was cast down in India. It is rejected neither by the Muslim scholars nor by the people of the Torah and Gospel. Proof is firmly established by reports from some of them.” As you have seen, justifying the unjustifiable has caused Muslims to latch on to imaginary verifications. There is nothing in the Torah or Gospels that says Adam was dropped in India. The Biblical Garden of Eden was on Earth, not heaven; it was located near the headwaters of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers and the Black Sea.
   Tabari I:292 “It has been mentioned that the summit of the mountain upon which Adam was cast down is one of those closest to heaven. When Adam was cast upon it his feet were on it while his head was in heaven. He heard the songs of the angels. The angels were afraid of him so his size was reduced.” The Islamic heaven must be very low.
    Knowing Muhammad, there had to be an ulterior motive. The prophet was trying to rationalize something. What do you suppose it was this time? Tabari I:293 “When Allah cast Adam down from Paradise, Adam’s feet were on earth while his head was in heaven. He became too familiar with the angels and they were in awe of him so much so that they complained to Allah in their various prayers. Allah, therefore, lowered Adam. But Adam missed what he used to hear from the angels and felt lonely. He complained to Allah and was sent to Mecca. On the way every place where he set foot became a village, and the interval between his steps became a desert until he reached Mecca.”
    We’re getting close. It’s important for Muhammad, and thus Islam, to place Adam in Mecca. Could there be more? “Allah sent down a jewel of Paradise where the House [Ka’aba] is located today. Adam continued to circumambulate it until Allah sent down the Flood.” There you have it. To make the insignificant pagan Ka’aba seem godly and important, and to have the stone that represented the most senior idol of the Meccan pantheon appear like it belonged to Islam, we see Allah sending Adam to the Ka’aba and giving him his Black Stone. We even have Adam circumambulate it like a good Muslim for a thousand years, helping to justify Islamic ritual. Muhammad was not only the world’s worst prophet, he was the world’s most transparent liar.
    Now all Muhammad needed to do was connect the Ka’aba to Abraham so he could rationalize Islam’s reliance on the Hebrew Bible. With the Bible snagged, he had himself a religion. Tabari I:293 “That jewel was lifted up until Allah sent Abraham to (re)build the House. This is meant by Allah’s word, ‘And We established for Abraham the place of the House as residence.’” [Qur’an 22:26] Muhammad was as predictable as sunrise.
    You probably noticed the (re) before build. In the creation account Allah built the Ka’aba himself. Then it was built by Adam. Now we are told that Abraham built it. So I ask you: how many times should a prophet be allowed to contradict himself before he is no longer considered a prophet?
    The legends behind the Ka’aba are essential to Islam. If they don’t make sense, neither does the religion. Tabari I:293 “Allah founded the House together with Adam. Adam’s head was in heaven while his feet were upon the earth. The angels were afraid so his size was reduced to sixty cubits (30 meters). Adam was sad because he missed the angelic songs. He complained, and Allah said, ‘Adam, I have cast down a house for you to circumambulate, as one circumambulates My Throne.’ Adam came to the House, and he and the prophets after him circumambulated it.” In this account we have the Ka’aba being built in heaven and also being built cooperatively by Adam and Allah. Either way, it’s a wonder the Islamic god would take credit for building something so crude and unsightly.
    Reducing Adam is a fairytale. As is the desert forming between his strides and villages cropping up in his footsteps. So then, when does the make-believe world of Islam end and the real world begin? When do we move out of fiction and into nonfiction? Stated another way, can you trust a man who is willing to base his religion on stories this farfetched? If he had to deceive us to make the Ka’aba seem worthy of devotion, is it?
    Tabari I:294 “When Adam’s size was lowered to sixty cubits, he started to say, ‘My lord! I was your protégé in Your House, having no Lord but You to protect me. There I had plenty to eat and could dwell wherever I wanted. But then You cast me down to this holy mountain. There I used to hear the voices of the angels and see them crowd around Your Throne and enjoy the sweet smell of Paradise. Then you cut me off from these things.”
    This is a confession. Muhammad saw himself as Allah’s protégé—if not as Allah himself. He constantly looked for people to protect him, and as an orphan, he was deprived of food. His own tribe became so disgusted with his continual taunts they made travel difficult for him. He was consumed with a desire to make Allah’s House and Mecca both his and important. He indulged in the sweet smell of perfume and repeatedly claimed that he could hear the angels. What’s more, his Qur’an is filled with complaints.
    Muhammad couldn’t even keep his own twisted version of Adam straight. Listen to this excerpt in which the prophet’s indulgences were falsely manifest in Adam: Tabari I:318 “He built for himself cities and castles and populated them and made them prosperous. He also assembled weapons and established a cavalry. At the end of his life, he became a tyrant. He took the name of Adam and said, ‘If someone calls me by any other name, I shall cut off his hand.’ He married thirty women and they gave him many offspring. He liked them and promoted them so that later kings were their offspring. His realm expanded greatly.” Muhammad just couldn’t help himself. He used a twisted caricature of Adam to make his warped existence seem godly. Muslims want us to believe that Adam, like Muhammad, was a warrior, an unbridled libertine, a prophet, and a politician who hated nicknames.
    Yes, according to Islam, Adam was just like Muhammad: Tabari I:319 “Adam and his descendants were prophets with royal authority and rulership on Earth. Allah made him a prophet and messenger to his children. He revealed to Adam twenty-one scrolls. Adam was taught them by Gabriel and wrote them down with his own hand. Among the things Allah revealed to Adam was the prohibition against eating dead animals and pork. He also revealed to him the letters of the alphabet on twenty-one leaves.” Writing began with pictures, not letters. And since we know it, how did it escape their god’s grasp?
    While that’s a detail, there’s a bigger issue at stake. Muhammad’s absurd and transparent bastardization of Biblical characters was essential to establishing his credibility and thus to imposing his religion. Ultimately, exposing Muhammad’s motivation for doing so is central to understanding the mess the world is in today.

 

My response:

Allah Almighty's plan was not to help satan.   Allah Almighty created the freedom of choice and the ability to choose in us.   We choose what route to take in life.  And Depending on our intentions and deeds, Allah Almighty could either help us go to the Straight Path, or go astray.   It's all Allah Almighty's Will and Divine Plan that Only Him Knows about:

"If thy Lord had so willed, He could have made mankind one people: but they will not cease to dispute.  (The Noble Quran, 11:118)"

"If God so willed, He could make you all one people: But He leaves straying whom He pleases, and He guides whom He pleases: but ye shall certainly be called to account for all your actions.  (The Noble Quran, 16:93)"

"Is then He who standeth over every soul (and knoweth) all that it doth, (like any others)? And yet they ascribe partners to God. Say: "But name them! is it that ye will inform Him of something he knoweth not on earth, or is it (just) a show of words?" Nay! to those who believe not, their pretence seems pleasing, but they are kept back (thereby) from the path. And those whom God leaves to stray, no one can guide.  (The Noble Quran, 13:33)"

"God has revealed (from time to time) the most beautiful Message in the form of a Book, consistent with itself, (yet) repeating (its teaching in various aspects): the skins of those who fear their Lord tremble thereat; then their skins and their hearts do soften to the celebration of God's praises. Such is the guidance of God: He guides therewith whom He pleases, but such as God leaves to stray, can have none to guide. (The Noble Quran, 39:23)"

"On no soul doth God Place a burden greater than it can bear. It gets every good that it earns, and it suffers every ill that it earns. (Pray:) 'Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget or fall into error; our Lord! Lay not on us a burden Like that which Thou didst lay on those before us; Our Lord! Lay not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Blot out our sins, and grant us forgiveness. Have mercy on us. Thou art our Protector; Help us against those who stand against faith.'   (The Noble Quran, 2:286)"

"And fear the Day when ye shall be brought back to God. Then shall every soul be paid what it earned, and none shall be dealt with unjustly.  (The Noble Quran, 2:281)"

"But how (will they fare) when we gather them together against a day about which there is no doubt, and each soul will be paid out just what it has earned, without (favour or) injustice?  (The Noble Quran, 3:25)"

"On the Day when every soul will be confronted with all the good it has done, and all the evil it has done, it will wish there were a great distance between it and its evil. But God cautions you (To remember) Himself. And God is full of kindness to those that serve Him.  (The Noble Quran, 3:30)

"No prophet could (ever) be false to his trust. If any person is so false, He shall, on the Day of Judgment, restore what he misappropriated; then shall every soul receive its due,- whatever it earned,- and none shall be dealt with unjustly(The Noble Quran, 3:161)"

"Every soul shall have a taste of death: And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense. Only he who is saved far from the Fire and admitted to the Garden will have attained the object (of Life): For the life of this world is but goods and chattels of deception.  (The Noble Quran, 3:185)"

"If any one does evil or wrongs his own soul but afterwards seeks God's forgiveness, he will find God Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 4:110)"  Allah Almighty forgives sins if we ask for forgiveness.

"And if any one earns sin. he earns it against His own soul: for God is full of knowledge and wisdom.  (The Noble Quran, 4:111)"

"Leave alone those who take their religion to be mere play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world. But proclaim (to them) this (truth): that every soul delivers itself to ruin by its own acts: it will find for itself no protector or intercessor except God: if it offered every ransom, (or reparation), none will be accepted: such is (the end of) those who deliver themselves to ruin by their own acts: they will have for drink (only) boiling water, and for punishment, one most grievous: for they persisted in rejecting God.  (The Noble Quran, 6:70)"

"But those who believe and work righteousness,- no burden do We place on any soul, but that which it can bear,- they will be Companions of the Garden, therein to dwell (for ever).  (The Noble Quran, 7:42)"

"Then shall anyone who has done an atom's weight of good, see it!  And anyone who has done an atom's weight of evil, shall see it.  (The Noble Quran, Noble Verses 99:7-8)"


To better understand all of this, I've written several articles that deal with this issue in great details at:

Is our destiny pre-determined by GOD?  Does GOD choose who is evil and who is good?  How come GOD didn't make all of us good if He is the "Most Merciful" and "Most Just"? 

Did GOD create some Men and Jinns to be destined to hell?

After death, what would prevent a Muslim from entering Heaven?  Also, how long will the Disbelievers stay in Hell?

How does a Muslim get to Heaven, saved, reach a state of perfect harmony with God?

I liked your concept of God in Islam and that man can directly have fellowship with God.  But how does God stand the sin in man ? How does God see the sin between man and man?

Why should I convert to Islam?  What does Islam have to offer for me?  And how can you guarantee for me that I will be saved in the Life After through believing in Islam?

How can a Muslim connect with GOD Almighty in life?  Six important points backed with Noble Verses that every Muslim must always keep in mind.

The satanic and evil beliefs and doings are ALLURING (feel right and good) to their people according to the Noble Quran.

Everything from good and bad that happens to us is determined by Allah Almighty.

Paradise: Who are the People of Paradise? And who are the "Muminoon (Believers)" in Islam?

Paradise: Ways that lead to Paradise.


To the reader, also please visit:

Is Satan in Islam the same as Satan in the Bible?

Would you describe Heaven and Hell according to the Islamic doctrine?

Will Hell eventually be empty?  For how long will Allah Almighty punish some of His creation?

 

 

He wrote:

As we continue the story of the Islamic Adam, pay attention to three things. First, the details: megalomaniacs are so full of themselves they get carried away. They present their preposterous notions as if they were divinely inspired. Second, the worst part of lying is remembering what you said. Most everything Muhammad reveals contradicts something he has or will profess. Third, each tradition invariably devolves into making Muhammad seem prophetic, or Mecca, its Ka’aba, and ritual, seem divine.
    Tabari I:294 “When Allah saw the nakedness of Adam and Eve, He commanded Adam to slaughter a ram from the eight couple of small cattle He had sent down from Paradise. Adam took its wool, and Eve spun it. He and Eve wove it. Adam made a coat for himself, and a shift and veil for Eve. They put on that clothing. Then Allah revealed to Adam, ‘I have a sacred territory around my Throne. Go and build a House for Me there.’” This time the clothes weren’t provided by Allah, nor made of leaves. And to spin and weave wool, one needs a spinning wheel and a loom. Did Eve invent these? And speaking of Eve; in true Islamic fashion we are led to believe she was made to wear a veil. Adam made it for her even though they were the only humans on earth. Who was she hiding her face from?
    “Adam said, ‘Lord, how could I build a house? I do not have the strength, and I do not know how. [Eve knows how to build a spinning wheel and loom from scratch, yet Adam can’t pile rocks. And Muslims say that god made women stupid.] So Allah chose an angel to assist him and he went with him to Mecca.” Angels, we’ve been told, were not as smart as Adam. Now they are tour guides and contractors.
    Tabari I:294 “Adam built the House with materials from five mountains: Mount Sinai, the Mount of Olives, Mount Lebanon, and al-Judi. He constructed its foundations with materials from Mount Hira near Mecca. When he was finished with its construction the angel went out with him to Arafat. He showed him all the rites connected with the pilgrimage that people perform today. Then he went with him to Mecca and Adam circumambulated the House for a week. Returning to the land of India, he died upon Mount Nudh.” I’d bet my life that if archeologists examined the stones of the Ka’aba they’d find no evidence that they came from any of those faraway places or that the construction dates to 4,000 B.C. But the egregious lie was not without benefit. We have arrived at the motivation behind this fairytale: the rites and rituals of Islam as they were adapted and ordered by Muhammad.
    Everything associated with the pilgrimage had pagan origins. Nothing was Biblical. Muhammad knew the truth, but he was desperate to give the hajj a holy spin. His career was dependent upon it. And lest we forget, in our quest to determine his veracity, in this version Adam returns to India after a week of circumambulation. The last time we played this game, he continued to rotate until the flood.
    According to the third Caliph, Umar: Tabari I:295 “While Adam was in India Allah revealed to him that he should perform the pilgrimage to this House.” As in: it already existed and thus didn’t need to be built from the stones of four mountains. Then, “Eventually he reached the House. He circumambulated it and performed all the rites of the pilgrimage. He wanted to return to India. When he reached the mountain passes of Arafat, [the place of Muhammad’s farewell sermon] the angels met him and said, ‘You have performed the pilgrimage faultlessly.’ This surprised him. When the angels noticed his surprise they said, ‘Adam we have performed the pilgrimage to this House two thousand years before you were created. And Adam felt properly chastised.’” Okay. So tell me, why did the angels go to Mecca to worship Allah if he lived in heaven?
    The pages that follow detail the origins of perfume and fruit. We’ll take a pass on them and go directly to those things essential to Islam. As you read these words, remember that internal contradiction is one of the surest signs that something is false. Muhammad, we are discovering, is the poster boy for this dubious honor. And our boy’s nose is about to grow a mile longer. Tabari I:298 “The Black Stone which was originally whiter than snow was brought down with Adam as well as the staff of Moses. It was made from the myrtle of Paradise, which, like Moses, was ten cubits (five meters) tall, and also myrrh and incense. Then anvils, mallets, and tongs were revealed to him. When Adam was cast down upon the mountain, he looked at an iron rod growing on the mountain. The first thing of iron he hammered was a long knife [also known as a sword]. Then he hammered the oven, the one which Noah inherited and that boiled with the punishment in India. When Adam fell down, his head brushed against heaven. As a result, he became bald and passed on baldness to his children.”
    What was a rock doing in paradise? If one could take something, wouldn’t they pick an implement more useful than a stone? Yet while that stone was worthless to Adam, it was supremely useful for Muhammad. He turned a Meccan meteorite into the creator god of the universe. But Allah’s stone was black. How and why did Snow White turn ugly? Muhammad said, “The stone turned black because it was fingered by menstruating women.”
    A few more questions remain. If Moses was five meters tall, over sixteen feet, how did he pass himself off as being part of Pharaoh’s family? And finally, how could Adam have hit his head against heaven by falling down? Perhaps this is a clue. Muhammad is telling us something about Allah and the location of the Islamic paradise.
    Why be so picky, you may be wondering? Ancient mythology and pagan religions are full of such nonsense. Yes, but Islam was invented ten centuries after the last pagan myth was conceived—so he is without excuse. More to the point, Muslims are killing us today because of Muhammad’s claims. Suicide bombers blast themselves into oblivion based upon this maniac’s promises. Simply stated: a prophet who makes a practice of lying shouldn’t be trusted!
    Muhammad’s promise of paradise for martyrs who die killing infidels can’t be relied upon—period! Calling this verbal diarrhea “a religion” doesn’t make it one. Right from the beginning, there has been a clear and undeniable pattern of deception and delusion. And it never ends. Muhammad was willing to say and do anything in the name of his spirit so long as it advanced his personal agenda.

 

 

My response:

Like I mentioned in my previous rebuttal, the narrations above from Al-Tabari came from a book that contains historical accounts that were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death.   Not everything you read is accurate and was necessarily told by the Prophet word for word, or even if at all!  It is important, if you wish to be objective and honest, to put the Noble Quran as the center for any Islamic argument.  If the Noble Quran makes a claim, then it is definitely agreed upon by all Muslims, and it is perfectly authentic.  Otherwise, GOD Almighty only Knows about what is true and what is false regarding the narrations that you use in Hadiths and Sunnah books.

In fact, the Al-Tabari volume is not very authentic and very doubtful when compared to the Hadiths' volumes and collections.  But even the Hadiths contain much corruptions in them, because they were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's death.   The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled.  Bukhari is not an Arabic name!  Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:

"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story.  It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......."  (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)  

For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".

Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable?  Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no.  I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected.  But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia.  Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them.  In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:

"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...."  Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others!  In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group.  And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!

Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic.  Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death.  Their narrations were orally transmitted by others.   Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:

"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam).  (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"

Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:

From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:

Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:

In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum.  It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words!  The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word.  In Arabic, a word is not original.  There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention.  This can change the entire meaning of the whole word  and sentence.

That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.

Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.

For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful.  I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies.  But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous!  Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration.  I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.

That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the Truth and reject the others.

Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all written during the Prophet's time.  Some or even many of them were probably written down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly all written during the Prophet's time. 

I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....

Example about my own name to simplify things:

Take "Osama" for example.  First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent.  The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama".  Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato".  The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.

When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising.  Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual.  I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.

THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".


To the reader, please visit: 
What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?


Having said all of that, GOD Almighty's original Plan was to make Adam peace be upon him and all of Mankind live on earth, not in Paradise.  It is true that GOD Almighty created Adam in Paradise, and made him live there with Eve for a while.   But Allah Almighty's Plan was to have Adam and Eve live and dwell on earth until the Day of Judgement:

"Behold, thy Lord said to the Angels: 'I will create a vicegerent on earth.'...(The Noble Quran, 2:34)"

"We said: 'O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression.'  (The Noble Quran, 2:35)"

"Then did Satan make them slip from the (Garden), and get them out of the state (of felicity) in which they had been.  We said: 'Get ye down, all (ye people) with enmity between yourselves.  On earth will be your dwelling place and your means of livelihood for a time.  (The Noble Quran, 2:36)"

"We said: 'Get ye down all from here: And if, as is sure, there comes to you Guidance from Me, whosoever follows My guidance, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.  But those who reject Faith and belie our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein.'  (The Noble Quran, 2:38-39)"

Again, it is Allah Almighty Divine and Holy Wisdom to have caused for all of this to happen.  I can't answer why He chose to Create evil beside Good.  I can't explain why he caused for Adam and Eve to slip from Heaven and end up on earth, even though I know for a fact that this was His Original Plan.   These are questions that only Him, the Almighty, can perfectly answer.  We humans can only speculate.

To the reader, please visit:  Was Adam created on Earth or in Heaven?

 

 

He wrote:

    Muhammad, speaking on behalf of Allah in an Islamic Hadith says: Tabari I:301 “I shall have one of those houses singled out for My generosity and distinguish it from all others by My name and call it My House. I shall have it proclaim My greatness, and it is upon it that I have placed My majesty.” Allah is bragging about a stubby pile of un-hewn and un-mortared rocks. His “House” didn’t even have a roof because there was no wood for the beams, or carpenters in Mecca. “My majesty” indeed.
    Sounding more like Hinduism than Islam: “In addition, I, being in everything and together with everything, shall make that House a safe sanctuary whose sacredness will extend to those around, those underneath, and those above it.” Some safe sanctuary it turned out to be. Muhammad led dozens of armed raids against the Meccans for control of Allah’s House. Even today, the Ka’aba is the cornerstone of terror. And please tell me: who is underneath the Ka’aba?
    “I shall make it the first House founded as a blessing for mankind in the valley of Mecca. They will come to it disheveled and covered with dust upon all kinds of emaciated mounts from every ravine, shouting: ‘At Your service,’ shedding copious tears and noisily proclaiming ‘Allahu Akbar!’” These are the words Islamic terrorists say before they commit murder.
    “You shall dwell there, Adam, for as long as you live. Then the nations, generations, and prophets of your children shall live there, one nation after the other.” Outright deceit is another way to tell if someone is worthy of being the founder of a religion. There is no trace of a permanent settlement in Mecca, much less a nation, prior to the sixth century. Depending on whether you believe Moses or Muhammad, Adam left the Garden 6,000 to 7,500 years ago. That’s a 4,500-year error. The harder Muhammad tries to make Mecca and the Ka’aba appear credible and religious, the less credible and religious they appear.
    “He commanded Adam to go to the Sacred House which was cast down to earth for him, [What happened to building it and the rocks from four mountains?] and to circumambulate it, just as he used to see the angels circumambulate Allah’s Throne. The Sacred House was a single jewel [the Black Stone] I was told. The House was cast down being a single jewel.” Those last two lines confirm something that Muslims vociferously deny. A “house” is a place in which people live. It is unlike a temple, which is a place people go to worship. Allah’s house was the stone. Most pagan gods were thought by their creators to embody the idol that represented them. Allah was no different.
    Tabari I:302 “Eventually, when Allah drowned the people of Noah, He lifted it up, but its foundation remained. Allah established it as a residence for Abraham who (re)built its later form.” That’s where all of this was going all along. Muhammad had to introduce Noah and then connect Mecca and Islam to Abraham. Allah’s Messenger turns both Noah and Abraham into prophets that are indistinguishable from himself. Allah, we are told, drowned everybody because they mocked Noah’s message—just as he will burn those who mock Muhammad’s. Then he remade Abraham in his image, as a Muslim who was tormented and tested. These things were needed to justify his reliance on the Bible and make himself and the Ka’aba appear worthy.
    Tabari I:303 “When we were sitting in the mosque, Mujhid said, ‘Do you see this?’ I replied, you mean the Stone?’ He said, ‘You call it a stone?’ I said, ‘Is it not a stone?’ He said, ‘I was told by Abdallah bin Abbas that it was a white jewel that Adam took out of Paradise to wipe his tears—tears that did not stop for 2,000 years. I said, ‘Why and how did it turn black?’ He replied, ‘Menstruating women were touching it in the Jahiliyyah [the Time of Ignorance—i.e. pre-Islam]’” Muhammad valued the Allah stone as much as he despised menstruating women. His faithful managed to tie these things together.
    What you’re going to hear next is one of the most diabolical doctrines of Islam: men and women are born to be tormented. They have no choice in the matter. Eternal damnation is god’s doing, not ours. Tabari I:305 “Then Allah rubbed Adam’s back and brought forth his progeny. And every living being to be created by Allah to the Day of Resurrection came forth at Na’man. He scattered them in front of him like tiny ants. He made covenants with them…. He took two handfuls and said to those on the right, ‘Enter Paradise! And He said to the others, ‘Enter the Fire! I do not care.’” A loving and merciful god if there ever was one. But beyond demented, this is further evidence that Allah and Yahweh are opposites. Yahweh wants us to choose to love him; Allah chose for us and he doesn’t care, much less love.
    A moment’s reflection on this doctrine renders an undeniable verdict: Islam is irrelevant. If all men and women are predestined to heaven or hell, faith is folly. Good works are no more valuable than bad ones. Rituals are ridiculous. Martyrdom is madness. Eat, drink, and be merry, for a backrub sealed our fate.
    Tabari I:306 “The Messenger said, “Allah created Adam and then rubbed Adam’s back with his right hand and brought forth his progeny. Then He said, ‘I have created these as the inhabitants of Paradise.’ Then he rubbed his back with His left hand and said, ‘I have created those for the Fire, and they will act as the inhabitants of the Fire.’ A man asked, ‘O Messenger, how is that? Muhammad replied, ‘When Allah creates a human being for Paradise, He employs him to act as the inhabitants of Paradise, and he will enter Paradise. And when Allah creates a human being for the Fire, He will employ him to act as the inhabitants of the Fire, and will thus make him enter the Fire.’” In other words, he didn’t have a clue, although he gives us a clue as to what he is like, a peek into his soul, into his religion, at his deity. His god directs the actions of men—good and bad. If we are to believe Muhammad, Allah is the employer of evil. And that’s not good. Worse, he directs men to act badly so that he can punish them for acting as he decreed.
    Islam confirmed this fatalistic right and left hand stuff in a Bukhari Hadith and then again in the Qur’an’s 56th surah. Bukhari:V6B60N473 “Every created soul has his place written for him either in Paradise or in the Hell Fire. His happy or miserable fate is predetermined for him.” The Qur’an says: 056.008 “Those of the right hand—how happy will be those of the right hand! Those of the left hand—how unhappy will be those of the left hand! …Who will be honored in the Garden of Bliss; a number of the earlier peoples, and a few of the later ages, on couches wrought of gold reclining face to face. Youth of never-ending bloom [perpetual virgins] will pass round. Cups and decanters full of sparkling wine, they shall not be affected with headache thereby, nor shall they get exhausted [Allah’s Viagra?]. And such fruits as they fancy, bird meats that they relish and companions pure and beautiful with big eyes like pearls within their shells as a reward.” A drunken orgy is the reward for being a “right hander.” It’s no wonder they find boys willing to die for the cause.
    056.033 “Unending and unforbidden, exalted beds, and maidens incomparable. We have formed them in a distinctive fashion and made them virgins, loving companions matched in age, for the sake of those of the right hand.” This view of Paradise is so vulgar, demeaning, sexist, and immoral, I find it repulsive. The next time you hear a Muslim say that the god of the Qur’an and the God of the Bible are the same remind them of their god’s idea of a good time. The next time you hear Muslims condemn the West for its sexual decadence and perversion, ask them to read their Qur’an.
    This is the fate the sadistic god of Islam selected and then predestined for the "lefties:" 056.041 “But those of the left hand—how unhappy those of the left hand. They will be in the scorching hot wind and boiling water, under the shadow of thick black smoke, neither cool nor agreeable. …They will be gathered together on a certain day which [like their fate] is predetermined. Then you, the erring and the deniers will eat Zaqqoom [a thorn tree]. Fill your bellies with it, and drink scalding water, lapping it up like female camels raging of thirst and diseased. Such will be their entertainment, their welcome on the Day of Doom…the welcome of boiling water and the entertainment of roasting in Hell. This is indeed the ultimate truth.” According to the “ultimate truth” only 1 in 1,000 people will avoid “the entertainment of roasting while lapping up thorns and scalding water.”
    Allah is fixated on tormenting his creation. He speaks of pain and punishment more frequently than any other subject—a thousand times in the Qur’an. And if "God" thinks this is entertaining, we’ve got a problem.
    Fortunately for mankind, Allah isn’t God. He’s just a warped figment of Muhammad’s sadistic imagination. And while that’s good, it’s also bad. Over a billion people claim to be subservient to Allah. Sixty percent are young, and many of them are willing to die for their virginal reward.

 

 

My response:

Again, like I mentioned in my previous rebuttal, the narrations above from Al-Tabari came from a book that contains historical accounts that were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death.   Not everything you read is accurate and was necessarily told by the Prophet word for word, or even if at all!  It is important, if you wish to be objective and honest, to put the Noble Quran as the center for any Islamic argument.  If the Noble Quran makes a claim, then it is definitely agreed upon by all Muslims, and it is perfectly authentic.  Otherwise, GOD Almighty only Knows about what is true and what is false regarding the narrations that you use in Hadiths and Sunnah books.

In fact, the Al-Tabari volume is not very authentic and very doubtful when compared to the Hadiths' volumes and collections.  But even the Hadiths contain much corruptions in them, because they were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's death.   The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled.  Bukhari is not an Arabic name!  Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:

"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story.  It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......."  (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)  

For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".

Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable?  Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no.  I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected.  But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia.  Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them.  In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:

"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...."  Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others!  In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group.  And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!

Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic.  Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death.  Their narrations were orally transmitted by others.   Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:

"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam).  (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"

Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:

From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:

Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:

In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum.  It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words!  The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word.  In Arabic, a word is not original.  There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention.  This can change the entire meaning of the whole word  and sentence.

That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.

Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.

For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful.  I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies.  But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous!  Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration.  I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.

That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the Truth and reject the others.

Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all written during the Prophet's time.  Some or even many of them were probably written down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly all written during the Prophet's time. 

I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....

Example about my own name to simplify things:

Take "Osama" for example.  First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent.  The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama".  Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato".  The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.

When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising.  Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual.  I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.

THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".


To the reader, please visit: 
What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?


Having said all of that, you have mentioned three points:

1-  Muhammad talked about his house in Paradise.

2-  The story about who created the kaba is contradicting.

3-  The people of Heaven Vs the people of Hell and the their books in their right and left hands.


Here is my response to your points:

1-  Having Houses in Paradise is something confirmed in the Noble Quran.  Let us look at few examples:

"For them will be a Home Of Peace in the presence Of their Lord: He will be Their Friend, because They practised (righteousness).  (The Noble Quran, 6:127)"

"There will be for them Therein all that they wish -- And more besides In Our Presence.  (The Noble Quran, 50:35)"

"And Allah sets forth, As an example To those who believe, The wife of Pharaoh: Behold she said: 'O my Lord! build For me, in nearness To Thee, a mansion In the Garden, And save me from Pharaoh And his doings, And save me from Those that do wrong'  (The Noble Quran, 66:11)"

"Verily, for the Righteous, Are Gardens of Delight, In the Presence of their Lord.  (The Noble Quran, 68:34)"

So Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him having a house in Paradise is not something unusual.

 

2- As to the story of who built the Kaaba, I've covered this in great details:

From www.answering-christianity.com/building_the_kaaba.htm:

The detailed story of how the Kaaba was built by Abraham and his son Ishmael peace be upon them:

The sections of this article are:

1-  The detailed story of how the Kaaba was built by Abraham and his son Ishmael, peace be upon them.
2-  Verses from the Noble Quran and the Bible that compliment the story.


Narrated Ibn Abbas:  "When the Prophet saw pictures in the Ka'ba, he did not enter it till he ordered them to be erased. When he saw the pictures of Abraham and Ishmael carrying the arrows of divination, he said, "May Allah curse them (i.e. the Quraish)! By Allah, neither Abraham nor Ishmael practiced divination by arrows."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Prophets, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 571)"

Narrated Ibn Abbas:  "The first lady to use a girdle was the mother of Ishmael. She used a girdle so that she might hide her tracks from Sarah. Abraham brought her and her son Ishmael while she was suckling him, to a place near the Ka'ba under a tree on the spot of Zam-zam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Mecca, nor was there any water So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ishmael's mother followed him saying, "O Abraham! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?" She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her Then she asked him, "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said, "Yes." She said, "Then He will not neglect us," and returned while Abraham proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniya where they could not see him, he faced the Ka'ba, and raising both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayers:  

'O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Your Sacred House (Kaba at Mecca) in order, O our Lord, that they may offer prayer perfectly. So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allah) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.' (14.37) Ishmael's mother went on suckling Ishmael and drinking from the water (she had). 

When the water in the water-skin had all been used up, she became thirsty and her child also became thirsty. She started looking at him (i.e. Ishmael) tossing in agony; She left him, for she could not endure looking at him, and found that the mountain of Safa was the nearest mountain to her on that land. She stood on it and started looking at the valley keenly so that she might see somebody, but she could not see anybody. Then she descended from Safa and when she reached the valley, she tucked up her robe and ran in the valley like a person in distress and trouble, till she crossed the valley and reached the Marwa mountain where she stood and started looking, expecting to see somebody, but she could not see anybody. She repeated that (running between Safa and Marwa) seven times." 

The Prophet said, "This is the source of the tradition of the walking of people between them (i.e. Safa and Marwa). When she reached the Marwa (for the last time) she heard a voice and she asked herself to be quiet and listened attentively. She heard the voice again and said, 'O, (whoever you may be)! You have made me hear your voice; have you got something to help me?" And behold! She saw an angel at the place of Zam-zam, digging the earth with his heel (or his wing), till water flowed from that place. She started to make something like a basin around it, using her hand in this way, and started filling her water-skin with water with her hands, and the water was flowing out after she had scooped some of it." 

The Prophet added, "May Allah bestow Mercy on Ishmael's mother! Had she let the Zam-zam (flow without trying to control it) (or had she not scooped from that water) (to fill her water-skin), Zam-zam would have been a stream flowing on the surface of the earth." The Prophet further added, "Then she drank (water) and suckled her child. The angel said to her, 'Don't be afraid of being neglected, for this is the House of Allah which will be built by this boy and his father, and Allah never neglects His people.' The House (i.e. Kaba) at that time was on a high place resembling a hillock, and when torrents came, they flowed to its right and left. She lived in that way till some people from the tribe of Jurhum or a family from Jurhum passed by her and her child, as they (i.e. the Jurhum people) were coming through the way of Kada'. They landed in the lower part of Mecca where they saw a bird that had the habit of flying around water and not leaving it. They said, 'This bird must be flying around water, though we know that there is no water in this valley.' They sent one or two messengers who discovered the source of water, and returned to inform them of the water. So, they all came (towards the water)." The Prophet added, "Ishmael's mother was sitting near the water. They asked her, 'Do you allow us to stay with you?" She replied, 'Yes, but you will have no right to possess the water.' They agreed to that." The Prophet further said, "Ishmael's mother was pleased with the whole situation as she used to love to enjoy the company of the people. So, they settled there, and later on they sent for their families who came and settled with them so that some families became permanent residents there. The child (i.e. Ishmael) grew up and learnt Arabic from them and (his virtues) caused them to love and admire him as he grew up, and when he reached the age of puberty they made him marry a woman from amongst them. 

After Ishmael's mother had died, Abraham came after Ishmael's marriage in order to see his family that he had left before, but he did not find Ishmael there. When he asked Ishmael's wife about him, she replied, 'He has gone in search of our livelihood.' Then he asked her about their way of living and their condition, and she replied, 'We are living in misery; we are living in hardship and destitution,' complaining to him. He said, 'When your husband returns, convey my salutation to him and tell him to change the threshold of the gate (of his house).' When Ishmael came, he seemed to have felt something unusual, so he asked his wife, 'Has anyone visited you?' She replied, 'Yes, an old man of so-and-so description came and asked me about you and I informed him, and he asked about our state of living, and I told him that we were living in a hardship and poverty.' On that Ishmael said, 'Did he advise you anything?' She replied, 'Yes, he told me to convey his salutation to you and to tell you to change the threshold of your gate.' Ishmael said, 'It was my father, and he has ordered me to divorce you. Go back to your family.' So, Ishmael divorced her and married another woman from amongst them (i.e. Jurhum). 

Then Abraham stayed away from them for a period as long as Allah wished and called on them again but did not find Ishmael. So he came to Ishmael's wife and asked her about Ishmael. She said, 'He has gone in search of our livelihood.' Abraham asked her, 'How are you getting on?' asking her about their sustenance and living. She replied, 'We are prosperous and well-off (i.e. we have everything in abundance).' Then she thanked Allah' Abraham said, 'What kind of food do you eat?' She said. 'Meat.' He said, 'What do you drink?' She said, 'Water." He said, "O Allah! Bless their meat and water." The Prophet added, "At that time they did not have grain, and if they had grain, he would have also invoked Allah to bless it." The Prophet added, "If somebody has only these two things as his sustenance, his health and disposition will be badly affected, unless he lives in Mecca." The Prophet added," Then Abraham said Ishmael's wife, "When your husband comes, give my regards to him and tell him that he should keep firm the threshold of his gate.' When Ishmael came back, he asked his wife, 'Did anyone call on you?' She replied, 'Yes, a good-looking old man came to me,' so she praised him and added. 'He asked about you, and I informed him, and he asked about our livelihood and I told him that we were in a good condition.' Ishmael asked her, 'Did he give you any piece of advice?' She said, 'Yes, he told me to give his regards to you and ordered that you should keep firm the threshold of your gate.' On that Ishmael said, 'It was my father, and you are the threshold (of the gate). He has ordered me to keep you with me.

Then Abraham stayed away from them for a period as long as Allah wished, and called on them afterwards. He saw Ishmael under a tree near Zamzam, sharpening his arrows. When he saw Abraham, he rose up to welcome him (and they greeted each other as a father does with his son or a son does with his father). Abraham said, 'O Ishmael! Allah has given me an order.' Ishmael said, 'Do what your Lord has ordered you to do.' Abraham asked, 'Will you help me?' Ishmael said, 'I will help you.' Abraham said, Allah has ordered me to build a house here,' pointing to a hillock higher than the land surrounding it." The Prophet added, "Then they raised the foundations of the House (i.e. the Ka'ba). Ishmael brought the stones and Abraham was building, and when the walls became high, Ishmael brought this stone and put it for Abraham who stood over it and carried on building, while Ishmael was handing him the stones, and both of them were saying, 'O our Lord! Accept (this service) from us, Verily, You are the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing.' The Prophet added, "Then both of them went on building and going round the Ka'ba saying: O our Lord ! Accept (this service) from us, Verily, You are the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing." (2.127)   (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Prophets, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 583)"

 

Verses from the Noble Quran and the Bible that compliment the story:


From www.answering-christianity.com/yearly_pilgrimage.htm:

The Prophecy of the yearly pilgrimage to Mecca in the Noble Quran:

"Behold!  We gave the site, To Abraham, of the (Sacred) House [That is the Kaaba that he built], (Saying):  'Associate not anything (In worship) with Me; And sanctify My House For those who compass it round, Or stand up, Or bow, or prostrate themselves (Therein in prayer).  And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;  (The Noble Quran, 22:26-27)"

As we clearly see in the Noble Verses, Allah Almighty promised Abraham peace be upon him that He will cause for people from all around the world to come and proclaim the pilgrimage to the House (Kaaba) that he built.

The story began, when Abraham took Hagar and Ishmael to the city of Paran (Mecca), based on Allah Almighty's commands.   There was literally no life there; not even water.  Allah Almighty then ordered Abraham to build the House of GOD (Kaaba) and leave Hagar and his son Ishmael there.  When later Hagar and Ishmael became very thirsty after they ran out of the water they brought with them in the journey, Hagar prayed to Allah Almighty to provide water for them.  Hagar then started to desperately run to search for water seven times (I believe) back and forth between the Safa and Marwa hills.  Allah Almighty then caused Ishmael to rub his feet against the sand and a pool of water, the water of Zumzum came out.

This Prophecy of Allah Almighty sending people from all over the world to Mecca is fulfilled every single year in Saudi Arabia through the Muslims' yearly pilgrimage, where one to three million Muslims come to perform the Hajj (pilgrimage).

"When the Pilgrimage was proclaimed, people came to it from every quarter, near and far, on foot and mounted.  The 'lean camel' coming after the fatiguing journey through distant mountain roads typifies the difficulties of travel." [2]

 

Bibliography:

1- The Meaning of the Holy Qur'an.
Author:  Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
Published by:  Amana Publications, 10710 Tucker Street, Suite B, Beltsville, Maryland 20705-2223 USA.
Telephone:  (301) 595-5777.
Fax:  (301) 595-5888.
ISBN:  0-91597-59-0 (HC).

2- The Meaning of the Holy Qur'an [1], foot note #2799, page 828.

 

From www.answering-christianity.com/que11.htm:

Q11-  If Islam is so against any form of idol worship, why do they bow to the kaaba? Why do they call it God's House? Do they believe He lives there?

The sections of this article are:

1-  The House of GOD Almighty in the Noble Quran and the Bible.

2-  But aren't Muslims still physically bowing down to the Kaaba itself?
 
      -  See also how the Bible's Prophets (including Jesus) Prayed the Islamic way.

      -  The Kaaba also maximizes the Worship of GOD Almighty by unifying the Muslims.

3-  What is the difference then between the hindu idols and the Kaba?
4-  What about the black stone near the Kaaba?  How sacred is it?
5-  Conclusion.

 

 

 

1-  The House of GOD Almighty in the Noble Quran and the Bible:

To help the Jewish and Christian reader understand the Islamic way of Worship better, I'd like to first present the following from the Bible:

Genesis 28:16-18
16 When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought, "Surely the LORD is in this place, and I was not aware of it."
17 He was afraid and said, "How awesome is this place! This is none other than the house of God; this is the gate of heaven."
18 Early the next morning Jacob took the stone he had placed under his head and set it up as a pillar and poured oil on top of it.

Judges 20:18
18 The Israelites went up to Bethel (the House of GOD in Hebrew) and inquired of God. They said, "Who of us shall go first to fight against the Benjamites?" The LORD replied, "Judah shall go first."

1 Chronicles 6:47-49
47 the son of Mahli, the son of Mushi, the son of Merari, the son of Levi.
48 Their fellow Levites were assigned to all the other duties of the tabernacle, the house of God.
49 But Aaron and his descendants were the ones who presented offerings on the altar of burnt offering and on the altar of incense in connection with all that was done in the Most Holy Place, making atonement for Israel, in accordance with all that Moses the servant of God had commanded.


"Behold!  We gave the site, To Abraham, of the (Sacred) House (i.e., the Kaaba), (Saying):  'Associate not anything (In worship) with Me; And sanctify My House For those who compass it round, Or stand up, Or bow, or prostrate themselves (Therein in prayer).  And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;   (The Noble Quran, 22:26-27)"


As we clearly see, the "House of GOD"Almighty is mentioned in both the Bible and the Noble Quran.  The Prostration to GOD Almighty in either His House or in the direction of His House (if you live far away) is the most proper way of Worship according to both the Bible and the Noble Quran.

As we also clearly see, the House of GOD Almighty was mentioned in the Bible first.  The Kaba or Kaaba (the black cube building in Saudi Arabia) is basically the symbolic point on earth (His House) that GOD Almighty Chose to have all of His True Believers meet Him through bowing down their faces in humility down to the ground before Him.

The actual bricks and cement that make up the Kaaba are not holy. 

 

They are no more holier than the bricks and cement that we see on regular basis in the towns that we live in.

 

While it is true that many ignorant and illiterate Muslims might incline toward idol worship and do consider the actual Kaaba as a very sacred thing to a point where they would go as far as rubbing their bodies against it to get "blessings", but these people are not representing the True picture of Islam.  If a person worships the Kaaba itself, then he/she becomes an idol worshiper:

"Behold!  We gave the site, To Abraham, of the (Sacred) House (i.e., the Kaaba), (Saying):  'Associate not anything (In worship) with Me; And sanctify My House For those who compass it round, Or stand up, Or bow, or prostrate themselves (Therein in prayer).  And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;  (The Noble Quran, 22:26-27)"

"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)!    Come to common terms as between us and you:  That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.'  If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).'  (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"

"God forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with God is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed. (The Noble Quran, 4:48)"

"Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend.  (The Noble Quran, 4:125)"

 

The Kaaba is only the House of GOD Almighty and is the meeting place for us to meet the Almighty LORD by bowing down our faces in humility down to the ground before Him in that direction. 

 

GOD Almighty Chose that spot on earth to be the meeting place with Him.

 

Since Allah Almighty ordered Abraham the father of Ishmael and Isaac peace be upon them to build the Kaaba, people called it the House of GOD Almighty, and it became the direction for us to bow down to Allah Almighty in worship:

"Behold!  We gave the site, To Abraham, of the (Sacred) House (i.e., the Kaaba), (Saying):  'Associate not anything (In worship) with Me; And sanctify My House For those who compass it round, Or stand up, Or bow, or prostrate themselves (Therein in prayer).  And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;  (The Noble Quran, 22:26-27)"

So when Muslims prostrate to Allah Almighty, they prostrate in the direction that is as close as possible to Him.  It was also prophesied in the Noble Quran that people from all over the world would come to the city of Mecca (where the Kaaba is located) for pilgrimage.

Please visit: The detailed story of how the Kaaba was built by Abraham and his son Ishmael peace be upon them.


During the early days of Islam, the Muslims were commanded to bow down to Allah Almighty in the direction of the Farthest Mosque (Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa) in Jerusalem, because it was the Holiest Mosque/Temple to worship Allah Almighty in back since it was not defiled with idols.  Allah Almighty then commanded Prophet Muhammad to order the Muslims to prostrate to Allah Almighty in the direction of the Kaaba in Mecca, because it was the House of GOD Almighty which was built by Prophet Abraham peace be upon him (mentioned also in the Bible), and because after the Muslims liberated Mecca in a 10,000 men army (this event was prophesied in the Bible), they cleaned the Kaaba from all idols.

 

 

2-  But aren't Muslims still physically bowing down to the Kaaba itself?

We've already seen the "House of GOD"Almighty in both the Bible and the Noble Quran above.  We've seen how the Prostration to GOD Almighty in either His House or in the direction of His House (if you live far away) is the most proper way of Worship.

Again, to help the Jewish and Christian reader understand the Islamic point better, I'd like to present the following from the Bible:

Numbers 24:3-5
3 and he uttered his oracle: "The oracle of Balaam son of Beor, the oracle of one whose eye sees clearly,
4 the oracle of one who hears the words of God, who sees a vision from the Almighty, who falls prostrate, and whose eyes are opened:
5 "How beautiful are your tents, O Jacob, your dwelling places, O Israel!

Deuteronomy 9:17-19
17 So I took the two tablets and threw them out of my hands, breaking them to pieces before your eyes.
18 Then once again I fell prostrate before the LORD for forty days and forty nights; I ate no bread and drank no water, because of all the sin you had committed, doing what was evil in the LORD's sight and so provoking him to anger.
19 I feared the anger and wrath of the LORD, for he was angry enough with you to destroy you. But again the LORD listened to me.

Deuteronomy 9:25
25 I lay prostrate before the LORD those forty days and forty nights because the LORD had said he would destroy you.

1 Kings 18:39
39 When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried, "The LORD -he is God! The LORD -he is God!"

Even Jesus, peace be upon him, bowed down to Allah Almighty the Islamic way:
"Going a little farther, he [Jesus] fell with his face to the ground and prayed, 'My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me.  Yet not as I will, but as you will.'  (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 26:39)" 

 

When Muslims bow down to Allah Almighty in worship at their homes, they do not for instance bow down to the sofa, or to the pair of shoes, or to the table, or to the wall, or to the door, or to the TV, or to any object that is in front of them in their homes.  They bow down to Allah Almighty only, regardless what's in front of them AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT WORSHIPING THAT OBJECT.  The Kaaba is the same thing.  We do not bow down to it in worship in any shape or form.  We bow down only to Allah Almighty in its direction because it is His Appointed House where He symbolically meets His Servants and True Believers.

The Kaaba makes the millions of Muslims all over the world Pray to Allah Almighty as one unified community.

 

The direction of the Kaaba not only unifies the Muslims, but it also maximizes the Glorification and Praising of GOD Almighty.

It maximizes the Glorification of GOD Almighty, because in the 5-daily Prayers, it is not only the individual who is Praising GOD, but also the millions of the Muslims world-wide (who are on the same time) are doing it almost simultaneously as if they were ONE CLOSE COMMUNITY.

 

Now in regards to whether Allah Almighty living there or not, no we do not believe that Allah Almighty lives there.  Allah Almighty is unlimited and is every where.

By the way, the Orthodox Jews too bow down to GOD Almighty in worship.  Below is a picture of how Jews worship Allah Almighty:

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3-  What is the difference then between the hindu idols and the Kaba?

The comparison is an unfair one because while the Muslims bow down to GOD Almighty and only to GOD Almighty in Worship, the hindus pray to and glorify their idols.  They address them as "your divinity" and "your holiness".  That's clearly idol worship!  You must never confuse the House of GOD Almighty, where GOD and His Servants meet, with the man-made idols and statues.  Allah Almighty Said:

"For ye do worship idols besides God, and ye invent falsehood. The things that ye worship besides God have no power to give you sustenance: then seek ye sustenance from God, serve Him, and be grateful to Him: to Him will be your return.  (The Noble Quran, 29:17)"

"And he said: "For you, ye have taken (for worship) idols besides God, out of mutual love and regard between yourselves in this life; but on the Day of Judgment ye shall disown each other and curse each other: and your abode will be the Fire, and ye shall have none to help.(The Noble Quran, 29:25)"

"And they set up (idols) as equal to God, to mislead (men) from the Path! Say: "Enjoy (your brief power)! But verily ye are making straightway for Hell!(The Noble Quran, 14:30)"

"Remember Abraham said: "O my Lord! make this city one of peace and security: and preserve me and my sons from worshipping idols.  (The Noble Quran, 14:35)"

 

The Muslims on the hand are not idol worshipers.  And neither were the Bible's Prophets (including Jesus), peace be upon them, who prostrated to GOD Almighty.

 

There is a difference between worshiping GOD Almighty in the direction of His House, and putting idols and praying to them.

 

Let's not forget also that the hindus' and the buddhists' idols are statues.  The same also for those who worship the fire, sun, moon, stars, etc...  Allah Almighty Said:

"Among His Sings are the Night and the Day, and the Sun and the Moon. Adore not the sun and the moon, but adore God, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve.  (The Noble Quran, 41:37)"

"They ask thee Concerning the New Moons.   Say:   They are but signs To mark fixed periods of time In (the affairs of) men, And for Pilgrimage.  It is no virtue if ye enter the houses from the back:  It is virtue if ye fear Allah.  Enter houses Through the proper doors:  And fear Allah:   That ye may prosper.  (The Noble Quran, 2:189)"

 

 

4-  What about the black stone near the Kaaba?  How sacred is it?

The black stone is like the bricks and cement that make up the Kaaba.  It is not holy at all and is not worshiped in any shape or form.  The black stone is nothing but a Heavenly object (an asteroid) that GOD Almighty descended on earth to determine the exact location of where His House was going to be built by Abraham and his son Ishmael, peace be upon them.

While Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him kissed the stone before, because it was chosen by Allah Almighty to descend on earth to determine the location of the Kaaba, but that still doesn't make it anything holy.

It certainly makes it a remarkable and noticeable object that is worth visiting and seeing, but anyone who worships it is an idol worshiper!   And like I said above, those ignorant and illiterate from the Muslims who go as far as rubbing themselves against the Kaaba and/or the stone to get "blessings" are not representing Islam's True picture at all.

For more information, please visit: The black stone in Mecca is not worshiped by Muslims.

 

 

4-  Conclusion:

As I demonstrated and proved above, Islam and the Prophets are far from promoting any form of idol worship.  You must never confuse or mix the Worship of GOD Almighty with the worship of man-made idols.  The hindus' and buddhists' worship of idols is far from being even remotely compared to Islam.

It is clear that the Muslims today are the only ones who truly Glorify GOD Almighty in the Maximum way.  Even Jesus, the polytheist trinitarian pagans' god, Worshiped GOD Almighty and Glorified Him the Islamic way.   Even though it was done hypocritically because he only did it once during his most desperate times and he has never done it before, but he still nonetheless showed that the Islamic way is the BEST WAY to really Glorify GOD Almighty in.

Islam is truly the best Faith to Worship, Praise and Glorify GOD Almighty in.   Therefore, embrace Islam and you will be saved.

 

 


From www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah.htm:

Isaiah 42:

This chapter seems to clearly speak about Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him for the following reasons:

Isaiah 42

The Servant of the Lord

1 "Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him and he will bring justice to the nations.
2 He will not shout or cry out, or raise his voice in the streets.
3 A bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out. In faithfulness he will bring forth justice;
4 he will not falter or be discouraged till he establishes justice on earth. In his law the islands will put their hope."

The Justice brought to the nations, the complete System of GOD Almighty's Laws on earth, the Truthfulness of Prophet Muhammad all point to these verses:

"O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For justice, as witnesses To Allah, even as against Yourselves, or your parents, Or your kin, and whether It be (against) rich or poor: For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (Of your hearts), lest ye Swerve, and if ye Distort (justice) or decline To do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do.  (The Noble Quran, 4:135)"

"O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For Allah, as witnesses To fair dealing, and let not The hatred of others To you make you swerve To wrong and depart from Justice. Be just: that is Next to Piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do.  (The Noble Quran, 5:8)"

"But if anyone earns A fault or a sin And throws it on to one That is innocent, He carries (on himself) (Both) a falsehood And a flagrant sin.  (The Noble Quran, 4:112)"

"Allah commands justice, the doing Of good, and liberality to kith And kin, and He forbids All shameful deeds, and injustice And rebellion: He instructs you, That ye may receive admonition.   (The Noble Quran, 16:90)"

"...Help ye one another In righteousness and piety, But help ye not one another In sin and rancour: Fear Allah: for Allah Is strict in punishment.  (The Noble Quran, 5:2)"

 

Continuing with chapter Isaiah 42:

5 This is what God the LORD says- he who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it:
6 "I, the LORD , have called you in righteousness; I will take hold of your hand. I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles,
7 to open eyes that are blind, to free captives from prison and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.

The Gentiles are the non-Jews.  These verses clearly suggest that the coming Prophet will be among the Gentiles.  As to the covenant, please visit: Jesus told the Jews that GOD will take His Kingdom from them and give it to the Muslims.  (The article is too lengthy to copy and paste here.  So I ask the reader to read it thoroughly since it does contain Jesus' own quotes from the New Testament).

The following sets of verses offer even more proofs:

8 "I am the LORD ; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols.
9 See, the former things have taken place, and new things I declare; before they spring into being I announce them to you."

Song of Praise to the Lord

10Sing to the LORD a new song, his praise from the ends of the earth, you who go down to the sea, and all that is in it, you islands, and all who live in them.
11 Let the desert and its towns raise their voices; let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice. Let the people of Sela sing for joy; let them shout from the mountaintops.


Kedar is the son of Ishmael peace be upon him:  "These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam,   (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 25:13)"

The "settlements where Kedar lives" is referring to the Arabs.  The Arabs before Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him were pagans.  They used to worship idols.  They had 360 idols in the Holy City of Mecca.

GOD Almighty in Isaiah 42:11 is clearly saying that He will send the people of Kedar (i.e., the Arabs) a Prophet and they should "rejoice" and "raise their voices" in happiness.

Also, "Let the desert and its towns raise their voices;" is clearly referring to Arabia, since Arabia is known to be made of mostly deserts.  Jerusalem was never called "desert", nor the Jews were ever called the people of "Kedar".

Important Note:  Jesus in the Bible never even once visited Arabia!  He only went to Egypt (when his mom escaped to Egypt from King Herod while he was a baby) and Palestine/Israel.  Jesus really had nothing to do with the Arabs of Kedar.  It was Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him that was born and lived in the lands of Kedar, and he taught the Muslims how to Worship and Glorify GOD Almighty.  Please visit:  What is the Wisdom of Islam?

Also, please visit: The original Name for GOD Almighty in the Bible was indeed "Allah".  See the proofs from the original Hebrew and Aramaic sources.


12 Let them give glory to the LORD and proclaim his praise in the islands.
13 The LORD will march out like a mighty man, like a warrior he will stir up his zeal; with a shout he will raise the battle cry and will triumph over his enemies.
14 "For a long time I have kept silent, I have been quiet and held myself back. But now, like a woman in childbirth, I cry out, I gasp and pant.
15 I will lay waste the mountains and hills and dry up all their vegetation; I will turn rivers into islands and dry up the pools.
16 I will lead the blind by ways they have not known, along unfamiliar paths I will guide them; I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places smooth. These are the things I will do; I will not forsake them.
17 But those who trust in idols, who say to images, 'You are our gods,' will be turned back in utter shame.


Ironically, many Western anti-Islamics criticize Islam for spreading by the sword.  Islam did probably spread by the sword, but the Muslims never really started any battle.  It was the 360 pagan Arab tribes, and later the Persian and Christian Roman Empires that declared wars against the Muslims, because Islam's theology was rapidly expanding and it began to threat the pagan religion of Arabia and later the two major Empires in the region.

"he will raise the battle cry and will triumph over his enemies" clearly means that this Prophet will fight by the sword the enemies of GOD Almighty.  It was Muhammad and his Muslim followers that spread Islam by crushing and defeating the enemies in the battles. 

Jesus never fought any war nor ever led any army, so this Prophecy can not apply to him.


Continuing with Isaiah 42:

Israel Blind and Deaf

18 "Hear, you deaf; look, you blind, and see!
19 Who is blind but my servant, and deaf like the messenger I send? Who is blind like the one committed to me, blind like the servant of the LORD?
20 You have seen many things, but have paid no attention; your ears are open, but you hear nothing."
21 It pleased the LORD for the sake of his righteousness to make his law great and glorious.
22 But this is a people plundered and looted, all of them trapped in pits or hidden away in prisons.
They have become plunder, with no one to rescue them; they have been made loot, with no one to say, "Send them back."

Here we see GOD Almighty is upset and greatly disappointed from the Jews.  He called them "deaf and blind".


23 Which of you will listen to this or pay close attention in time to come?
24 Who handed Jacob over to become loot, and Israel to the plunderers? Was it not the LORD ,
against whom we have sinned? For they would not follow his ways; they did not obey his law.
25 So he poured out on them his burning anger, the violence of war. It enveloped them in flames, yet they did not understand; it consumed them, but they did not take it to heart.


Like above, here also we GOD Almighty upset with the people of Israel.  Please visit: Prophet Muhammad was foretold in Isaiah 42.

 

3- As to right and left hands of the people of Heaven and Hell, it had been confirmed in the Noble Quran:

"The Companions of the Left Hand,- what will be the Companions of the Left Hand?  (They will be) in the midst of a Fierce Blast of Fire and in Boiling Water, And in the shades of Black Smoke:  Nothing (will there be) to refresh, nor to please:  For that they were wont to be indulged, before that, in wealth (and luxury), And persisted obstinately in wickedness supreme!   And they used to say, "What! when we die and become dust and bones, shall we then indeed be raised up again?- "(We) and our fathers of old?"  Say: "Yea, those of old and those of later times, "All will certainly be gathered together for the meeting appointed for a Day well-known.  (The Noble Quran, 56:41-50)"

"And he that will be given his Record in his left hand, will say: "Ah! Would that my Record had not been given to me!   (The Noble Quran, 69:25)"

"But those who reject Our Signs, they are the (unhappy) Companions of the Left Hand.  (The Noble Quran, 90:19)"


From www.answering-christianity.com/heaven_hell.htm:

Description in the Qur'an of Paradise

“The description of Paradise which the Muttaqoon have been promised is that in it are rivers of water, the taste and smell of which are never changed. Rivers of milk the taste of which will remain unchanged. Rivers of wine that will be delicious to those who drink from it and rivers of clear, pure honey. For them will be every kind of fruit and forgiveness form their Lord." [47:15] 

"And their recompense shall be Paradise, and silken garments, because they were patient. Reclining on raised thrones, they will see there neither the excessive heat of the sun, nor the excessive bitter cold, (as in Paradise there is no sun and no moon). The shade will be close upon them, and bunches of fruit will hang low within their reach. Vessels of silver and cups of crystal will be passed around amongst them, crystal-clear, made of silver. They will determine the measure of them according to their wishes. They will be given a cup (of wine) mixed with Zanjabeel, and a fountain called Salsabeel. Around them will (serve) boys of perpetual youth. If you see them, you would think they are scattered pearls. When you look there (in Paradise) you will see a delight (that can not be imagined), and a Great Dominion. Their garments will be of fine green silk and gold embroidery. They will be adorned with bracelets of silver, and their Lord will give them a pure drink." [76:12-21]

"And those foremost (In Tawheed and obedience to Allah and His Messenger in this life) will be foremost (in Paradise). They will be those nearest to Allah in the Gardens of Delight. A multitude of those (the foremost) will be from the first generation (who embraced Islam) and a few of those (the foremost) will be from the later (generations). They will be reclining, face to face, on thrones woven with gold and precious stones. They will be served by immortal boys, with cups and jugs, and a glass from the flowing wine, from which they will have neither any headache, nor any intoxication. They will have fruit from which they may choose, and the flesh of fowls that they desire. There will be Houris with wide, lovely eyes (as wives for the pious), like preserved pearls, a reward for deeds that they used to do. They will hear no vain or sinful speech (like backbiting, etc.) but only the saying of: Salam, Salam, (greetings of peace). And those on the Right Hand, who will be those on the Right Hand? They will be among thorn-less lote-trees among Talh (banana trees) with fruits piled one above another, in long-extended shade, by constantly flowing water, and fruit in plenty, whose season is not limited, and their supply will not be cut off. They will be on couches or thrones raised high. Verily, We have created for them (maidens) of equal age, loving (their husbands only). For those on the Right Hand." [56:10-38]

"Verily, the dwellers of Paradise that Day, will be busy in joyful things. They and their wives will be in pleasant shade, reclining on thrones. They will have therein fruits (of all kinds), and all that they will ask for. (It will be said to them): "Salamun" (Peace be on you), a Word from the Lord, Most Merciful." [36:55-58] 

Can you imagine?  Wearing the finest silk clothing and sitting on chairs made of gold and precious stones?  Those who disbelieve in the words of Allah, say that this is all a fairy-tale, made up by a would-be prophet.  But we know, that Allah is the Truthful and that His Messenger, sallallahu alayhe wasallam, spoke only what was revealed to from the Most Truthful.  And even though Allah describes Paradise for us in the Qur'an, He still says, "So no soul knows the delights of the eyes which is hidden for them; a reward for what they did." [32:17]

Apart from the Qur'anic descriptions of Paradise, the Prophet Muhammad, sallallahu alayhe wa sallam, would often describe Paradise to his companions.  His descriptions were oftentimes so vivid and moving, that many-a-companion would hurriedly rush towards it.  This was the case, as Anas narrated that the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu alayhe wasallam, and his companions proceeded towards Badr and arrived there before the disbelievers (of Makkah).  When the disbelievers arrived, the Messenger of Allah said, "None of you should step forward ahead of me to do anything."  Then the disbelievers advanced (towards us), and the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu alayhi wasallam, said, "Rise to enter Paradise whose width is equal to the Heavens and the Earth." Umayr Ibnul Humam al-Ansari asked, "O Messenger of Allah, is Paradise equal in width to the heavens and the earth?" He, sallallahu alayhe wasallam, said, "Yes." Umayr said, "Bak'hin! Bak'hin!" (An Arabic word denoting excitement and astonishment) The Messenger of Allah, sallallahu alayhe wasallam, asked him, "What made you say these words: Bak'hin, Bak'hin?" He said, "Messenger of Allah, nothing but the desire to be amongst its residents." He, sallallahu alayhe wasallam, said, "You are surely among its residents." He then took some dates form his bag and began to eat them. Then he said, "If I were to live until I had eaten all of the dates, indeed this life would be too long." Anas then said, "He threw away the remaining dates he had with him. He then fought (the disbelievers) until he was killed." (Muslim)

What words could have inspired Umair and others like him to long for, and to pay the ultimate price for a place in Paradise?  Let's now take a look at what the Messenger of Allah, had to say about Paradise.

 

 

He wrote:

    The story of Adam’s boys is next. What do you bet Muhammad twists this Bible account for his benefit? Tabari I:308 “The story of Cain and Abel was told by Allah to Muhammad in the Qur’an saying, ‘Recite to them—meaning the people of the Book—the story of the two sons of Adam truthfully…to the end of the story.’”
    So here we go: “Eventually, two boys, called Cain and Abel, were born to Adam. Cain was a farmer and Abel was a herdsman. Cain was the older of the two.” Thus far, this is from the Bible, but there is an Islamic twist. “Cain had a sister who was more beautiful than Abel’s sister. [How could that be if they were brothers?] Abel sought to marry Cain’s sister, but Cain refused and said, ‘She is my sister born together with me and she is more beautiful than your sister. I deserve to marry her more than you do. Adam ordered Cain to marry her to Abel. However, he refused.” Muhammad’s preoccupation with sex was second only to his sadism. And Islam’s prophet, like his version of Abel, murdered and indulged in incest to satisfy his cravings. Muhammad married his son’s wife simply because she was more beautiful than any of his.
    “Cain and Abel offered a sacrifice to Allah to find out who was more deserving of the girl. On that day Adam was absent as he had gone to have a look at Mecca. Allah had said to Adam, ‘Adam do you know that I have a House on Earth?’ Adam replied, ‘Indeed I do not.’ Allah said, ‘I have a house in Mecca. So go there!’ [In Islam, one thing is eternal—contradictions and foolishness. Just a few pages ago Adam was credited with building the Ka’aba] Adam said to heaven, ‘Guard my two children.’ [I thought he had four kids—two sons and two daughters. Don’t daughters count?] But heaven refused. Adam addressed the Earth with the same request, but the Earth refused.” Excuse me. In Islam, two things are eternal—contradictions and stupidity.
    “He addressed the mountains but they also refused. He then spoke to Cain, who said, ‘Yes. You shall go and when you return you shall be happy with the condition you find your family.’” After some bragging and bickering we find…“Abel offered a fat young sheep and Cain a sheaf of corn. Finding a large ear, Cain husked and ate it. A fire came down from heaven. It consumed Abel’s offering and left that of Cain. Whereupon Cain got angry and said, ‘I shall kill you to prevent you from marrying my sister. Abel said, ‘Allah accepts only from those who [love? No, sorry, guess again] fear Him….’ One day Cain came upon him while he was asleep. He lifted a big rock and crushed Abel’s head with it.”
    The Islamic perversion continues: “Allah sent two ravens that were brothers and they fought with one another. When the one killed the other, it dug a hole for it and covered it with soil. When Cain saw that, he said, ‘Woe to me! Am I incapable of being like that raven, so as to conceal my brother?’ This explains Allah’s word: ‘And Allah sent a raven to scratch a hole in the earth in order to show him how to conceal his brother.’” [Qur’an 5:31] Allah’s idea of dealing with guilt is to hide the evidence.
    I want to let you in on a secret. These fanciful tales didn’t come from Allah, or even Muhammad’s vivid imagination. They were pilfered from the Jewish Talmud—an uninspired collection of myths and fables.
    With that in mind, let’s spend a moment in the 5th surah. After a dialog between Moses and the Israelites in the wilderness, the scene jumps abruptly two thousand years back in time: 005.027 “And relate to them the story of the two sons of Adam with truth when they both offered an offering, but it was accepted from one and was not accepted from the other. He said: ‘I will most certainly slay you.’ The other said: ‘Allah only accepts from those who fear.… Surely I fear Allah. Surely I wish that you should bear the sin committed against me and your own sin, and so you would be of the inmates of the Hell Fire, and this is the recompense of the unjust.’” The Hadith we just read was designed to give the Qur’an the context it otherwise lacks. It explained the nature of the beef, or lamb as the case may be.
    You may have noticed that Abel is meaner in the Qur’an than he was in the Hadith. Like Muhammad, he condemned his brother to the Hell Fire. So the Qur’anic Cain and Muhammad have a great deal in common.
    005.030 “Then his mind facilitated to him the slaying of his brother so he slew him; then he became one of the losers. Then Allah sent a crow digging up the earth so that he might show him how he should cover the dead body. He said: Woe to me! Do I lack the strength that I should be like this crow and cover the dead body of my brother? So he became of those who regret.” You will find a comprehensive analysis of this passage and others borrowed from the Jews beginning on page 51 of the Source Material appendix.
    The Qur’an abruptly transitions from crow behavior to a justification for genocide. 005.032 “For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.” Not only is the causal link unintelligible, the moral lesson is insane. Allah is saying that it’s okay to kill Jews if they’re causing mischief (such as tormenting the prophet by scoffing at him). Allah is thus giving Muhammad a carte blanch for mass murder. And he took it. Muhammad slaughtered thousands of Jews in genocidal rage.
    This chilling verse exposes the real Muhammad/Allah. 005.033 “The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and strive to make mischief in the land, is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned. This shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous punishment. …They would like to escape from the Hell Fire, but they will never succeed, and their suffering shall be eternal. …He punishes whom He wills.” Stunning, isn’t it?

 

 

My response:

You have mentioned two points:

1-  The story of Adam's sons, Cain and Abel, in the Noble Quran and Al-Tabari narrations.

2-  Killing people who do mischief is allowed in the Noble Quran.

 

Here is my response to your points:

1-  Here is what Allah Almighty said in the Noble Quran about Adam and his sons, Cain and Abel:

"Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam. Behold! they each presented a sacrifice (to God): It was accepted from one, but not from the other. Said the latter: "Be sure I will slay thee." "Surely," said the former, "God doth accept of the sacrifice of those who are righteous.  (The Noble Quran, 5:27)"

Abel told his brother Cain:  "If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds.  (The Noble Quran, 5:28)"

"We have honoured the sons of Adam; provided them with transport on land and sea; given them for sustenance things good and pure; and conferred on them special favours, above a great part of our creation.  (The Noble Quran, 17:70)"

Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran is not concerned about narrating the stories of the Bible in the fullest details.  While Allah Almighty did briefly talk about some of the stories for special reasons such as giving parables, but the Noble Quran's Main and Bottom Line Message is teaching the belief in the Absolute One and True Living GOD Almighty and King, and associating no partners with Him.  Nothing more and nothing less:

"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.  (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"

"Then Praise be to Allah, Lord of the heavens and Lord of the earth- Lord and Cherisher of all the worlds!  To Him be Glory throughout the heavens and the earth: and He is Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom!.  (The Noble Quran, 45:36-37)

"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)!   Come to common terms as between us and you:  That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.'  If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).'  (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"

"God forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with God is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed. (The Noble Quran, 4:48)"

"Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend.  (The Noble Quran, 4:125)"

"They say: 'Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation).' Say thou: 'Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with God.'  (The Noble Quran, 2:135)"

"Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to God's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with God.   (The Noble Quran, 3:67)"


Like I mentioned in my previous rebuttal, the narrations above from Al-Tabari came from a book that contains historical accounts that were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death.   Not everything you read is accurate and was necessarily told by the Prophet word for word, or even if at all!  It is important, if you wish to be objective and honest, to put the Noble Quran as the center for any Islamic argument.  If the Noble Quran makes a claim, then it is definitely agreed upon by all Muslims, and it is perfectly authentic.  Otherwise, GOD Almighty only Knows about what is true and what is false regarding the narrations that you use in Hadiths and Sunnah books.

In fact, the Al-Tabari volume is not very authentic and very doubtful when compared to the Hadiths' volumes and collections.  But even the Hadiths contain much corruptions in them, because they were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's death.   The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled.  Bukhari is not an Arabic name!  Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:

"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story.  It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......."  (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)  

For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".

Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable?  Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no.  I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected.  But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia.  Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them.  In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:

"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...."  Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others!  In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group.  And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!

Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic.  Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death.  Their narrations were orally transmitted by others.   Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:

"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam).  (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"

Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:

From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:

Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:

In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum.  It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words!  The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word.  In Arabic, a word is not original.  There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention.  This can change the entire meaning of the whole word  and sentence.

That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.

Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.

For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful.  I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies.  But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous!  Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration.  I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.

That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the Truth and reject the others.

Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all written during the Prophet's time.  Some or even many of them were probably written down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly all written during the Prophet's time. 

I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....

Example about my own name to simplify things:

Take "Osama" for example.  First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent.  The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama".  Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato".  The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.

When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising.  Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual.  I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.

THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".


To the reader, please visit: 
What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?


As to the LACK of accuracy between some of the Noble Quran's Narrations and the Bible's, like I mentioned above, back to the point about Prophet Muhammad copying from the Bible, as I mentioned in my previous rebuttal, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him did not copy anything from the Bible.  It is true that Allah Almighty talked about some stories regarding the People of Israel and some events that happened in the past which exist in the Bible, but Allah Almighty's account in the Noble Quran came to correct the errors, contradictions and corruptions in the Bible and to demonstrate that the Bible is corrupt.

Just because the Bible contains history in it and was written by many authors, it doesn't make it an entirely Divine and Perfect Holy Book.  There exists OVERWHELMING contradictions and errors in historical accounts and claims in the Bible, as well as the validity and authenticity of the books and gospels that make up the Bible of today, because they were written by MYSTERIOUS people; people who are not known to us today, and who were not even Prophets and Messengers from GOD Almighty!  Consider the following few examples that consist of historical contradictions in the Bible:

II Samuel 10:18 talks about David slew the men of 700 chariots of the Syrians and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
I Chronicles 1:18 says that David slew the men of 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen

I Chronicles 9:25 says that Solomon had 4000 stalls for horses and chariots.
I Kings 4:26 says that he had 40,000 stalls for horses

Ezra 2:5 talks about an exile Arah having 775 sons.
Nehemiah 7:10 talks about the same exile Arah having 652 sons.

II Samuel 24:13 So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I Chronicles 21:11 SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destryed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

How did Judas die?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (Acts 1:18)

2 Samuel 6:23 Therefore MICHAL the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.
2 Samuel 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of MICHAL the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite.

2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
2 Chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

26th year of the reign of Asa I Kings 16:6-8
36th year of the reign of Asa I 2 Chronicles 16:1

How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
22 in 2 Kings 8:26
42 in 2 Chronicle 22:2

Who was Josiah's successor?
Jehoahaz - 2 Chronicle 36:1
Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11

Also, your original scriptures are all doubtful according to the Bible's own theologians and historians.  It's quite hilarious that even the Bible itself admits that it has been tampered with and corrupted by man's garbage:

"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie(From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

And regarding who wrote the books and gospels of the Bible, well here is a sample of what the NIV Bible's theologians and historians wrote:

"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark.  They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark.  His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost.  (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"

"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1643)"

"The writer of this letter does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1856)"

"The letter is difficult to date with precision....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)"

"It seems safe to conclude that the book, at least in its early form, dates from the beginning of the monarchy. Some think that Samuel may have had a hand in shaping or compiling the materials of the book, but in fact we are unsure who the final author or editor was.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 286)"

"Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"

"The date of the composition is also unknown, but it was undoubtedly during the monarchy.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"

"The author is unknown. Jewish tradition points to Samuel, but it is unlikely that he is the author because the mention of David (4:17,22) implies a later date.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 360)"

"Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368)"

"There is little conclusive evidence as to the identity of the author of 1,2 Kings.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"

"Whoever the author was, it is clear that he was familiar with the book of Deuteronomy.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"

"According to ancient Jewish tradition, Ezra wrote Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (see Introduction to Ezra: Literary Form and Authorship), but this cannot be established with certainty.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 569)"

"Although we do not know who wrote the book of Esther, from internal evidence it is possible to make some inferences about the author and the date of composition.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 707)"

"The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources....(From the NIV Bible commentary, page 722)"

"Regarding authorship, opinions are even more divided....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 773)"

etc...

How do you respond to this?


Please visit: Just who were the original authors of the Bible? to see the book's bibliography to the above quotes.

Also, why don't you visit: Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible, and see exactly what I mean, instead of acting like a total fool and saying things that even the Bible refutes in it!

It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD.  This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers.  Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption.  I have their personal quotes in that site.


Also, as to the parts of the Bible that Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

After that, please visit:  Prophet Muhammad was foretold in many places in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.

 

2-  As to killing those who do mischief, here is what Allah Almighty said about mischief in some Noble Verses in the Noble Quran:

"On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.  (The Noble Quran, 5:32)"

The human value as we clearly see is precious in the Sight of Allah Almighty.  Killing one innocent soul is equivalent to killing the entire community unjustly!  Also, saving an innocent life is also as equivalent as saving the entire community.


Allah Almighty also Commanded UNCOMPROMISED Justice:

"O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For justice, as witnesses To Allah, even as against Yourselves, or your parents, Or your kin, and whether It be (against) rich or poor: For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (Of your hearts), lest ye Swerve, and if ye Distort (justice) or decline To do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do.  (The Noble Quran, 4:135)"

"Allah commands justice, the doing Of good, and liberality to kith And kin, and He forbids All shameful deeds, and injustice And rebellion: He instructs you, That ye may receive admonition.   (The Noble Quran, 16:90)"

"...Help ye one another In righteousness and piety, But help ye not one another In sin and rancour: Fear Allah: for Allah Is strict in punishment.  (The Noble Quran, 5:2)"

 

Show me where in your pornful bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like "wine", does GOD Almighty say anything beautiful like this!

 

"Shall We treat those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, the same as those who do mischief on earth? Shall We treat those who guard against evil, the same as those who turn aside from the right?  (The Noble Quran, 38:28)"

"The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;  (The Noble Quran, 5:33)"

"Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections, depressing a small group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief.  (The Noble Quran, 28:4)"

"And O my people! give just measure and weight, nor withhold from the people the things that are their due: commit not evil in the land with intent to do mischief. (The Noble Quran, 11:85)"

"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!"  (The Noble Quran, 2:11)"

"By God's will they routed them; and David slew Goliath; and God gave him power and wisdom and taught him whatever (else) He willed. And did not God Check one set of people by means of another, the earth would indeed be full of mischief: But God is full of bounty to all the worlds.  (The Noble Quran, 2:251)"

"The Jews say: "God's hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from God increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, God doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And God loveth not those who do mischief.  (The Noble Quran, 5:64)"

"Do no mischief on the earth, after it hath been set in order, but call on Him with fear and longing (in your hearts): for the Mercy of God is (always) near to those who do good.  (The Noble Quran, 7:56)"

"To the Madyan people We sent Shu'aib, one of their own brethren: he said: "O my people! worship God; Ye have no other god but Him. Now hath come unto you a clear (Sign) from your Lord! Give just measure and weight, nor withhold from the people the things that are their due; and do no mischief on the earth after it has been set in order: that will be best for you, if ye have Faith.  (The Noble Quran, 7:85)"

"And there are those who put up a mosque by way of mischief and infidelity - to disunite the Believers - and in preparation for one who warred against God and His Apostle aforetime. They will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good; But God doth declare that they are certainly liars.  (The Noble Quran, 9:107)"

"When they had had their throw, Moses said: "What ye have brought is sorcery: God will surely make it of no effect: for God prospereth not the work of those who make mischief.  (The Noble Quran, 10:81)"

"Why were there not, among the generations before you, persons possessed of balanced good sense, prohibiting (men) from mischief in the earth - except a few among them whom We saved (from harm)? But the wrong-doers pursued the enjoyment of the good things of life which were given them, and persisted in sin.   (The Noble Quran, 11:116)"

"But those who break the Covenant of God, after having plighted their word thereto, and cut asunder those things which God has commanded to be joined, and work mischief in the land;- on them is the curse; for them is the terrible home!  (The Noble Quran, 13:25)"

"And We gave (Clear) Warning to the Children of Israel in the Book, that twice would they do mischief on the earth and be elated with mighty arrogance (and twice would they be punished)!  (The Noble Quran, 17:4)"

"But seek, with the (wealth) which God has bestowed on thee, the Home of the Hereafter, nor forget thy portion in this world: but do thou good, as God has been good to thee, and seek not (occasions for) mischief in the land: for God loves not those who do mischief.  (The Noble Quran, 28:77)"

"That Home of the Hereafter We shall give to those who intend not high-handedness or mischief on earth: and the end is (best) for the righteous.  (The Noble Quran, 28:83)"

 

 

He wrote:

Throughout his creation account, Muhammad has professed to being an expert on Lucifer, so I’d like to share some of my favorite Satanic Hadiths. Bukhari:V2B21N245 “A person slept in and missed the morning prayer. So the Prophet said, ‘Satan urinated in his ears.’” Satan wouldn’t be troubled by a Muslim missing a prayer to Allah unless Islam served his interests.
    Bukhari:V4B54N494 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘When the upper edge of the sun appears in the morning, don’t perform a prayer till it has risen. When the lower edge of the sun sets, don’t perform a prayer till it has set, for the sun rises between two sides of the Satan’s head.’”
   Bukhari:V4B54N509 “The Prophet said, ‘Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you during the act of yawning should say: “Ha,” Satan will laugh at him.’”
    Bukhari:V4B54N513 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘A good dream is from Allah, and a bad dream is from Satan; so if anyone of you has a bad dream and is afraid, he should spit on his left side, for then it will not harm him.’” The moral: sleep on the right side of the bed.
    Bukhari:V4B54N516 “The Prophet said, ‘If anyone rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blow it out thrice because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night.’” Thank you Dr. Muhammad.
    Bukhari:V4B54N522 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘When you hear the crowing of cocks, seek blessings. Their crowing indicates that they have seen an angel. When you hear the braying of donkeys, seek refuge, for their braying indicates that they have seen Satan.’” Based upon what we have heard thus far, the Qur’an and Hadith sound a lot like the braying of donkeys. Do you suppose we have seen Satan in them?

 

 

My response:

The Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad) were documented 100s of years after his death.  The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled.  Bukhari is not an Arabic name!   Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:

"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story.  It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......."  (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)  

For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".

Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable?  Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no.  I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected.  But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia.  Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them.  In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:

"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...."  Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others!  In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group.  And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!

Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic.  Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death.  Their narrations were orally transmitted by others.   Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:

"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam).  (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"

Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:

From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:

Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:

In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum.  It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words!  The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word.  In Arabic, a word is not original.  There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention.  This can change the entire meaning of the whole word  and sentence.

That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.

Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.

For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful.  I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies.  But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous!  Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration.  I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.

That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the Truth and reject the others.

Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all written during the Prophet's time.  Some or even many of them were probably written down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly all written during the Prophet's time. 

I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....

Example about my own name to simplify things:

Take "Osama" for example.  First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent.  The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama".  Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato".  The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.

When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising.  Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual.  I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.

THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".


To the reader, please visit: 
What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?


Anyway, if the hadiths above were indeed true, and the Prophet peace be upon him did narrate them, then it is obvious that they are metaphoric!  They are symbolic!   You never felt satan peeing in your ears, have you?  The point from these hadiths was not to say that a literal and physical event would occur, but rather, it is to help Muslims to stay current with their Prayers and to not neglect them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back to My Rebuttals, and exposing the lies of the Answering Islam team section.

Rebuttals to Craig Winn - "The Prophet of Doom" book.

Answering Trinity.

Contradictions and History of Corruption in the Bible.

Questions about Jesus that trinitarian Christians don't have logical answers for.

What parts of the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth? and Why?

"Allah" was GOD Almighty's original Name in the Bible according to the Hebrew and Aramaic sources.

Scientific Miracles in Islam and the Noble Quran.

Most of the Bible's books and gospels were written by mysterious people!

Jesus mentioned Muhammad by the name in the Bible.

Did Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus? It supports Islam's claims about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross.  I also addressed John 19:36-37 from the Bible and proved that Jesus never got crucified, since GOD Almighty promised that he will protect Jesus' body and not let even a single bone be broken.  My question to all Christians is: How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's bones?! I also added refutations to Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12, Zechariah 12:10 and Psalm 34:20, which supposedly prove the Christians' belief about Jesus crucifixion.  I proved that this dogma has no truth what so ever and exposed the wrong Trinitarian English translation of Zechariah 12:10.


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