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Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?

The Holy Quran is not a flesh and blood, dust and water creation.  It is the Holy Word of GOD Almighty.  Therefore, It was MADE and not CREATED.  And It is certainly not a Creator.  The Engineer Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي. elaborated on this in great details, using many Noble Verses, in several of his videos.  According to the Holy Quran, there are these three Levels in all that exist out there:

1-  There is Allah Almighty, the Sovereign Lord and Creator and Ruler of all things.

2-  There is the World of Command, which is the invisible World of Spirits, Selves, Angels, the Word, the Holy Spirit, the Jinns, and all of the Beings that were MADE in It.

  • This is where all of the Beings interact with Allah Almighty on regular basis.
      
  • Examples of these are: GOD Almighty speaking with satan; GOD Almighty speaking with Adam and Even in Heaven; GOD Almighty speaking with the Angels about creating mankind.
      
  • Heaven belongs to the World of Command, and in It, we will be flesh and blood.  This is an extra privilege for the Winners of Paradise from the Believers, who come from the flesh and blood, dust and water world.
      
  • Furthermore, Allah Almighty Said that earth is so far from GOD and desolate that if if GOD Almighty were to put the Angels on earth to inhabit it, He would still need to send them a Messenger:
      
    Noble Verse(s) 17:95
    Yusuf Ali:

    [017:095]  Say, "If there were settled, on earth, angels walking about in peace and quiet, We should certainly have sent them down from the heavens an angel for an apostle."

    Arabic (Read from right to left.  Also, all png image files: [1] [2]):

    17:95 قل لو كان في الارض ملائكة يمشون مطمئنين لنزلنا عليهم من السماء ملكا رسولا

    Allah Almighty also called the time we spend on earth as "the empty days" الايام الخالية.  See Noble Verse 69:24.  It implies that we are condemned to being here on earth, and not in the presence of Allah Almighty in Heaven, where we can directly speak with Him and be directly under Him.
      

    The Mighty Test of being on Earth:

    From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2498.msg15738.html#msg15738:

      

    The more I study the infallibility of all humans, including all Prophets, the more and more I understand the following Allah Almighty's Holy Words:

    [017:095]  Say, "If there were settled, on earth, angels walking about in peace and quiet, We should certainly have sent them down from the heavens  an angel for an apostle ملكا رسولا."

    ‏17:95 قل لو كان في الارض ملائكة يمشون مطمئنين لنزلنا عليهم من السماء ملكا رسولا

      
    ملكا رسولا literally translates as an Angel-Prophet.  Even the Angels would need an Angel-Prophet to guide them.

      

    Being a flesh and blood here on earth is not easy.  This is why Allah Almighty had all of the Beings of the World of Command bow to the flesh and blood Adam, peace be upon him.

    Please visit:
    www.answering-christianity.com/quran_creator_or_created.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm#bottom_line
    www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/adam.htm

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

  • 3-  There is the World of Creation, which is the flesh and blood, dust and water, and all of the actual matter that makes the physical Universe.

    I have elaborated on this in thorough details at:

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1462.msg5590.html#msg5590
  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,650.msg1523.html#msg1523
  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3373.html#msg3373
  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1349.msg5138.html#msg5138
  • What is the Holy Spirit in Islam?
  • Jesus was created from the Word, and was filled with the Holy Spirit.
      
  • Is Jesus Allah Almighty for creating things in the Noble Quran?  And is he better than Prophet Muhammad for being a creator?  And is there a contradiction in the Noble Quran regarding idol gods not being able to create and Jesus Christ?  See the Books that Allah Almighty gave to certain powerful Beings to enable them to possess certain Powers and to do certain Miracles, including limited Creations.

     

  • I have also covered all of the points above, in one of my debates, in great details at:

    Is Jesus the GOD-Man?


    Dr. Edward Dalcour

    VS


    Osama Abdallah

    John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [2] [3])."

    Also visit: Is Jesus Allah Almighty for creating things in the Noble Quran?  And is he better than Prophet Muhammad for being a creator?  And is there a contradiction in the Noble Quran regarding idol gods not being able to create and Jesus Christ?  See the Books that Allah Almighty gave to certain powerful Beings to enable them to possess certain Powers and to do certain Miracles, including limited Creations.

    Other important links: [1] [2] [3]

    Also:
    Jesus had no Divine Will according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?
    Jesus said he had no Divine Will.  Jesus had to seek permission from GOD before performing any Miracle.

    Jesus was created from the Word, and was filled with the Holy Spirit.

      

    Detailed Proofs that Gabriel is not the Spirit:

      
    From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,3131.msg15652.html#msg15652:

    Question:

    Interesting...but brother Osama one more thing which confuse me, there are two verses in the Quran which are quite similar and it seems to point out that the Holy Spirit is Jibreel, can you please share with me your opinion about it?

    Quran 16:102-106

    قُلۡ نَزَّلَهٗ رُوۡحُ الۡقُدُسِ مِنۡ رَّبِّكَ بِالۡحَـقِّ لِيُثَبِّتَ الَّذِيۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا وَهُدًى وَّبُشۡرٰى لِلۡمُسۡلِمِيۡنَ

    SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
    Say, [O Muhammad], "The Pure Spirit has brought it down from your Lord in truth to make firm those who believe and as guidance and good tidings to the Muslims."

    Quran 2:97

    قُلۡ مَنۡ كَانَ عَدُوًّا لِّجِبۡرِيۡلَ فَاِنَّهٗ نَزَّلَهٗ عَلٰى قَلۡبِكَ بِاِذۡنِ اللّٰهِ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ وَهُدًى وَّبُشۡرٰى لِلۡمُؤۡمِنِيۡنَ

    SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
    Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is [none but] he who has brought the Qur'an down upon your heart, [O Muhammad], by permission of Allah, confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers."

    Answer:

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Shaad,

    Great points akhi.  Here is the response:

    1-  Allah Almighty Said in Noble Verse
    2:87 and 2:253, that He fortified Isa (Jesus peace be upon him) with the Holy Spirit: وايدناه بروح القدس.  Also, Allah Almighty told Isa directly that "I fortified you with the Holy Spirit" اذ ايدتك بروح القدس .  See Noble Verse 5:110.

    Jesus was also given the Book that enabled him to perform limited Miracles and even Creation:
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_creating.htm


    2-  Allah Almighty also fortifies His creations from humans and Angels and Jinns and others with the Spirit:

    "He sends down the Angels by the Spirit and with His (Allah's) Command to whom He pleases from His creations..." ينزل الملائكة بالروح من امره على من يشاء من عباده .  See Noble Verse 16:2.


    3-  Allah Almighty blows His Spirit
    "from my Spirit" من روحي inside our mothers' wombs to create our Spirits (‏Noble Verse 15:29).  That's what He did with Adam after He made him flesh and blood, dust and water:

    ‏15:29 فاذا سويته ونفخت فيه من روحي فقعوا له ساجدين


    4-  When asked about the Spirit, Allah Almighty responded:

    ‏17:85 ويسألونك عن الروح قل الروح من امر ربي ومااوتيتم من العلم الا قليلا

    "They ask thee (Muhammad) concerning the Spirit, say it is by the Command of my Lord, and little of knowledge was given to you"

    5-  Isa, peace be upon him, was also called
    "A Spirit from Him (Allah)" وروح منه.  See Noble Verse 4:171.

      
    6-  Angels and the Holy Spirit are different:

    The following Noble Verses make this abundantly clear:


    "...The Angels and the Spirit..."
    70:4 تعرج الملائكة والروح اليه في يوم كان مقداره خمسين الف سنة

    "The Day when the Spirit and the Angels stand in line...."
    78:38 يوم يقوم الروح والملائكة صفا لايتكلمون الا من اذن له الرحمن وقال صوابا

    "The Angels and the Spirit descent in it (the Night of Power)...."
    ‏97:4 تنزل الملائكة والروح فيها باذن ربهم من كل امر

      
    "The Holy Spirit
    روح القدس sent It (the Quran) down from your Lord...."
    16:102 قل نزله روح القدس من ربك بالحق ليثبت الذين امنوا وهدى وبشرى للمسلمين
      
    "The Trustworthy Spirit brought It (the Quran) down"
    26:193 نزل به الروح الامين


    7-  Allah Almighty's Spirit "Our Spirit" روحنا appeared as a man to Mary to impregnate her:
      
    ‏19:17 فاتخذت من دونهم حجابا فارسلنا اليها روحنا فتمثل لها بشرا سويا

    21:91 والتي احصنت فرجها فنفخنا فيها من روحنا وجعلناها وابنها اية للعالمين

    66:12 ومريم ابنت عمران التي احصنت فرجها فنفخنا فيه من روحنا وصدقت بكلمات ربها وكتبه وكانت من القانتين

      

    Putting it all together:

    So the Holy Spirit creates our spirits, fills the Angels, humans, Jinns and all creations by the Command of Allah Almighty, and is responsible for bringing down the Holy Quran to Prophet Muhammad through Angel Gabriel, peace be upon him.

    Gabriel is not the Holy Spirit.  Gabriel follows the Commands of the Holy Spirit that are sent straight from Allah Almighty.  Allah Almighty made three realms:

    (a)-  The realm of Allah and His Heaven.

    (b)-  The World of Command.  This is where all of the Spirits and Selfs and Angels, and creations of the Spirit, and creations of the Word, and creations of the Light, and creations of the smokeless Fire, and creations of all other things are in.

    (c)-  The World of flesh and blood, dust and water creation.

      

    It seems clear that Allah Almighty made the Holy Spirit be the One in Charge to run the entire World of Command.  For more, please visit:
    www.answering-christianity.com/quran_creator_or_created.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/holy_spirit.htm


    I think of it as my parents' sperm and egg.  Allah Almighty put those two microscopic beings to create me.  And made the Holy Spirit blow my spirit in this flesh and blood creation of me.  Angel Gabriel did not blow the Spirit in me.


    I hope this helps, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
      

      

      

      

      

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    John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [2] [3])."

    Is Jesus the GOD-Man?


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    VS


    Osama Abdallah

    Also visit:

    Is Jesus Allah Almighty for creating things in the Noble Quran?  And is he better than Prophet Muhammad for being a creator?  And is there a contradiction in the Noble Quran regarding idol gods not being able to create and Jesus Christ?  See the Books that Allah Almighty gave to certain powerful Beings to enable them to possess certain Powers and to do certain Miracles, including limited Creations.

      

    Other important links: [1] [2] [3]

    Also:
    Jesus had no Divine Will according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?
    Jesus said he had no Divine Will.  Jesus had to seek permission from GOD before performing any Miracle.

      

    Does Muhammad exist in the Bible?


    Anthony Rogers

    VS


    Osama Abdallah

    Also visit: Prophet Muhammad was mentioned in the previous Scriptures.  Also, his Prophetic Name, AHMED or AHMAD, was both mentioned in the Glorious Quran and the DEAD SEA SCROLLS.  Yes, his name was recently found in the DEAD SEA SCROLLS as the coming Servant.  See the image for yourself.

      

    Is the Bible the True Word of GOD Almighty?


    Louis Lionheart

    VS


    Osama Abdallah

    What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why? [1] [2]

    Note to Muslims:

    As Muslims, we must be very careful when we comment on the previous Scriptures, because there is always a possibility that there might be Divine Revelations parts in the verses that we might be objecting to.  I know that the many of the disbelievers constantly insult and mock Islam all the time, and even lie on their own Scriptures with their "End of Times Prophecies" lies, -where they hijacked even the Bible with their bigotry, hate and lies, - but still dear brothers and sisters in Islam, we must always be very careful when we deal with previous Scriptures, because as Muslims we do believe that they do contain remnants of Divine Revelations in them.  May Allah Almighty forgive me, and forgive all sincere Muslims, for any and all mistakes and errors that we may have fell into.  Ameen.

    The Gospel Christ:

    So, what was the Gospel of Jesus Christ then, i.e., the Injil of Jesus Christ?  Even among Christians, this remains a mystery.  But the Didache; a Gospel which existed even before the current Bible-Gospels (or canonized Gospels), contains a great deal of teachings of Jesus Christ.  The following points are important to always keep in mind: (1)- No single Scripture, the Didache or any other Scripture, is 100% pure and accurate.  There are always forgeries and alterations.  This is the same with every single book and gospel. (2)- The Original Teachings of Christ exist in Scriptures that are in the Bible and outside the Bible.

    For ample proofs, watch the debate-video above.

    Prophet Muhammad thoroughly prophesied in the Bible & Old Scriptures.

    See also:  The Islamic Prophecies section.

      

      

    Zionist Israel will rule the earth with Mighty Evil!  (Islamic Prophecy)

    The Glorious Quran declared 1,400 years ago that the Israeli Zionist machine will rule the entire earth with mighty evil and power.  They will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth.  See Noble Verses 17:4-8:

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/nuclear_doom_prophecy.htm

  • Also, Israel will be annihilated by people of non-Muslims and Muslims according to the Glorious Quran's Prophecy.
      

  • What does the Glorious Quran say about the Jews' mighty success and dominance in wealth, science, media and politics?  "a rope from Allah and a rope from people" extended to them to enable the reaching of the Mighty Heights.
      

  • The Jews' financial domination and the Stock Market  (control of the earth's wealth) are STUNNINGLY prophesied in the Glorious Quran!

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1515.msg5943.html#msg5943     (backup)

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1515.msg5950.html#msg5950     (backup)

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#prophecies

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

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    Also, Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, made a stunning prophecy about the one-eyed anti-Christ who will rule the infidels and the world:

    Narrated Ibn Umar: "Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal (anti-Christ) saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 553)"

    Prophet Muhammad had many visions about the dajjal, and gave many signs about him.  Some of the things the Prophet said about the dajjal were literal, and some were vision-metaphors.  The most prominent one is that he will be one-eyed.  This is both literal and metaphoric.  It is literal today because the zionist anti-Christ system is indeed represented by the ONE-EYE symbol as seen in the following images.  The metaphors here are Allah Almighty not being ONE-EYED, because nothing can describe Allah Almighty.  There is "none like unto Him" (Quran, 112:4).  In other words also, the Prophet warned that this ONE-EYED SATANIC system will be a worshiped deity.  And that false deity is not Allah Almighty.  For ample more details and proofs, please visit link below.

    Was the Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold before Islam in the Bible's Zechariah 11:17?  I demonstrated using ample Biblical verses that the ONE-EYED DAJJAL (anti-Christ) was never prophesied in the Bible to be ONE-EYED, nor was this Sign ever given in the Bible to any being.

  • I also showed how Jesus Christ, from among many other verses, used this "right eye" expression.  So it was never a Sign about the dajjal before Islam.  It was no more than a general language of the Bible.
      
  • The Bible in many verses uses "right hand" and "right eye" expressions for people and for GOD Almighty.
      
  • None of these are Signs to anything.
  • For ample Noble Verses and Hadiths (Sayings of the Prophet), and proofs, please visit:

  • The ONE-EYED Dajjal's Signs and Powers according to Islam.
      

  • Also visit: 9/11 was 100% an Israeli Mossad Operation!

  • Many references of this Hadith (Saying) exist throughout our Islamic Texts.  This is one of the most popular Hadiths and Prophecies of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  And indeed, we are seeing it come to pass before our very eyes.  Please also visit:

  • The hijacked Bible.
      

  • Listen also to Jeremiah 18:1-10!
      

  • The 666 symbol is actually referring to today's neo-con Christianity and Zionism!  See the clear-cut proofs and images here.
      

  • Also see the sub-section: The Israeli 666 symbol.
      

  • Does the Bible predict the dividing of Israel?  Who are the nations that divided Israel?  And what will be their punishment?
      

  • The ONE-EYED Dajjal's Signs and Powers according to Islam.
      

  • Was the Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold before Islam in the Bible's Zechariah 11:17?
      

  • Sheikh Hamza Yusuf (Muslim convert Mark Hanson) on some of Islam's STUNNING End of Times Prophecies [1] [2] including ISIS:


      

  • Also visit this website's Youtube Channel at: www.youtube.com/QuranSearchCom.

  • The Gospel Christ:

    So, what was the Gospel of Jesus Christ then, i.e., the Injil of Jesus Christ?  Even among Christians, this remains a mystery.  But the Didache; a Gospel which existed even before the current Bible-Gospels (or canonized Gospels), contains a great deal of teachings of Jesus Christ.  The following points are important to always keep in mind: (1)- No single Scripture, the Didache or any other Scripture, is 100% pure and accurate.  There are always forgeries and alterations.  This is the same with every single book and gospel. (2)- The Original Teachings of Christ exist in Scriptures that are in the Bible and outside the Bible.

    For ample proofs, watch the debate-video above.

      

    See Also:

    The "Son of God" Title in the 1 John 2:22

    Jesus is Yahweh the Son?  See how Christians got this very wrong in the NT, using Jesus' words himself!
    Also, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1 John 2:22?

    Anti-Christ | 1john 2:22-23 | 911 was 100% an Israeli Lie | Boston | 666| Dividing Israel

    Also visit: Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

    Note:  The (*) links below are html backups of the website's blog topic threads, in case the blog and its database are down.

      

    From: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:

      

    1 John 2:22-23 are discussed further down in details in this table.

  • God in the OT addresses people as "my son" and describes them as his begotten son.  Why does God use these terms with others in the time of Moses and Jesus and Abraham and other prophets, and now condemns these tittles in the Quran?  Why would God give room to misuse these terms like the Greek and Romans did?

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    Son of GOD definition:

    In the Bible, "the Son" refers to the Messiah, - the Ultimate Messenger to the Jews.  Son in their time meant Servant of GOD.  Allah Almighty also explained it precisely like this in the Glorious Quran: "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm

    This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.  But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else.  You can visit:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

    Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

    And other great figures in the Old Testament were also called:

    1-  GOD (El) of other people.
    2-  Son of GOD.
    3-  Begotten Son of GOD.
    4-  GOD's First Born.
    5-  GOD's Heir and Heirs (for believers).
    6-  GODly name with Yahweh and El attached to the name.
    7-  King of Kings (called by Yahweh Himself in the OT).
    8-  All believers are GODs (Elohim) and Sons of GOD (Beni Elohim).
      

    Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?" [1]

    King James Version
    Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

    Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

    New King James Version
    Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

    Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.

    "Servant" here is slave.  Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2], the
    same word used for the Jews' slaves, and all slaves in general, throughout
    the Bible [
    2].  Jesus, the abd of GOD, is also the slave of GOD in the NT.

    In Arabic also it's the same.  My name Osama Abdallah, which means
    Osama slave of Allah (GOD).  Slave is a subject of GOD.  A servant is
    independent and has a free will.  He/she can quit serving.  But a
    slave (ABD) is OWNED.
       

    I elaborated on this point in details at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_of_kings_lie
    www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm

    The Servants are the Prophets of Israel.  But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet.

      

    Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) of GOD:

    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

      

    John 1:1:

    John 1:1 answered from the Glorious Quran Includes a Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran.

    John 1:1
    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
    was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [1] [2] [3])
    ."

      

    The Word encompasses Jesus:

    From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2884.msg13839.html#msg13839:

    From brother Shaad:

    The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in Revelation....

    Revelation 20:4 King James Version (KJV)

    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God...

    Revelation 1:2

    2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ


    Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad.  I took the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi.  Indeed, the Word of GOD Almighty ENCOMPASSES Jesus, because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares.

    Trinity is false.  I have added your addition to:

    www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

    Messiah definition:

    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm

      

    The Doubting Thomas:
      
    Doubting Thomas said
    "My Lord and my God" to Jesus.  Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:

  • Moses was called "The God" (Exodus 7:1) of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh.  Jesus said he was greater than Moses.  Thomas, the Disciple, called Jesus "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28).  Jesus denied to be GOD Almighty.  All Believers were called "GODS and Sons of GOD" (Psalm 82:6) in the Bible.  "GOD" in the Bible also means master, leader, priest.  Therefore, the doubting Thomas' statement didn't suggest that Jesus was his Creator.  And Jesus being a "God" doesn't mean that he is GOD Almighty.  He is just another mere "God" like the rest of the believing creations and nothing more.
      

  • The Bible also says that Jesus had to be "in according to Melchizedek".  And who is Melchizedek?  According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20).  Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.
      
  • The Bible called Jesus a slave (abd) of GOD throughout the Old Testament!
      
  • Jesus denied knowing when Judgment Day will come, and said I DON'T KNOW, ONLY GOD ALONE KNOWS!
  • For ample more details, visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm

  • Also, the Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam, and the Majestic "We" [1] [2] [3]
  • www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1904.msg7673#msg7673
    www.answering-christianity.com/john20_28.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_miracles.htm (non of Jesus' Miracles were unique)
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

    Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

      

    Jesus' Original Name:

    Prophet Jesus' original name was Eesa, as this is also his Islamic name.  Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus.  There is also a great deal of evidence that Jesus spoke and preached in Arabic.  Not only that, but Greek wasn't even that popular in Palestine.  Islam's claims are very strongly supported.  See proofs below.

      

    Did early Christians preach Prophet Muhammad in Rome?

    Did the early believers preach Prophet Muhammad in Corinth, Antioch, Rome and all other places?  Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, was the Jews' Messiah and final Prophet.  In both the Glorious Quran and the Dead Sea Scrolls, Ahmed was prophesied to come.  Ahmed in the Quran is Prophet Muhammad's prophetic name.  Also, see below the Dead Sea Scroll image.  The New Testament too predicts the coming of three:

    1.  Elijah.
    2.  The Messiah.
    3.  The Prophet.

    John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on the images to expand:
      
        

  • John the Baptist calls Jesus a liar! (Matthew 11:1-6).

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    So did the early believers preach the coming of Prophet Ahmed or Muhammad?  The answer is quite possible, but Muhammad would've been phase 2 for them and not phase 1.  Jesus was the early believers' immediate Prophet, not Muhammad.  And all of the details that they had were about Jesus, not Muhammad.  It is also important to know that the following seven Roman Emperors have thoroughly burned all of the early believers' writings:

    1.  Nero (54-68)
    2.  Domitian (81-96)
    3.  Marcus Aurelius (161-180)
    4.  Septimius Severus (193-211; up to a point)
    5.  Maximinius I Thrax (235-8; up to a point)
    6.  Trajanus Decius (249-251)
    7.  Valerian (253-260)

    Read all the details with references here.

    What we have today from "gospels" and "New Testament" were written 80 years to 300 years after Jesus' departure from this earth.  So, the current writings that we have are not original writings.  Also, to appease the Roman Empire's 3-headed pagan religion and practices, the pagan 3-headed trinity was invented [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].  Many lies had been fabricated after the original writings were all lost.  The Jews and Christians of Arabia, however, did have writings that predicted the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  These were some of the original texts that survived:


    (Video & text are in this linked section)

      

    Jesus also preached in Arabic:

    See the clear proofs in the following:

  • Proofs that early Christian believers' title was MUSLIMS from the Jews' and Christians sources themselves.  Also, Greek wasn't even the first language in Palestine, nor was it even hardly spoken by the natives there.
      

  • Also, ample proofs that Jesus also spoke and preached in Arabic, and there were many early manuscripts written in Arabic that spoke about the coming of Prophet Muhammad in details.  Arabic is estimated to date back 8000 to 20000 years by non-Muslim researchers, and had always been the first language in the entire lands of the Middle East, North and Central Africa.
      

  • Prophet Muhammad in the Early Christians' writings.
      

  • Prophet Muhammad foretold, by the name, in the previous Scriptures.  We still have texts today and from the Bible itself and outside the Bible that tell about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and Islam as the Servant of GOD Almighty and the New Religion and Covenant of GOD Almighty, respectively.
      

  • Important:
      
    What is the definition of Messiah in the Quran?
    Jesus was created from the Word of GOD and filled with the Holy Spirit, according to Islam.
      

  • In the Bible, Muslims, Salamays, Mushlams, Mushlems, Mushlimana are the Believers' original title [1].  Islam came to restore the original Faith [1].
      

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    Prophet "AHMAD" is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls:
      
      

    (Film in this article)

      
    Prophet Muhammad in the previous Scriptures.  Prophet Muhammad was thoroughly foretold in the Bible, and his prophetic Name, "Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this very Name, Ahmed [1] [2].

      

    Father and Son Definitions:

    Definition of Key Terms (*) (a discussion between me and a Christian):

    1-  What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible?  How is it defined in Islam? (see point #5 below)  How does the Bible really define it?

    2-  What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible? 

    3-  Jesus had to match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament.  See this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian.  Jesus' Miracles and Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he needed to be in according to Melchizedek.  He had to be “in according to Melchizedek” as the Bible specifically says.  See Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20 [2].

      

    Who is Melchizedek?

    According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20) [2].  The Bible literally says that.  Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.

  • Is Jesus Allah Almighty for creating things in the Noble Quran?  And is he better than Prophet Muhammad for being a creator?  And is there a contradiction in the Noble Quran regarding idol gods not being able to create and Jesus Christ?  See the Books that Allah Almighty gave to certain powerful Beings to enable them to possess certain Powers and to do certain Miracles, including limited Creations.
      

  • Also again, see this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian.
      

  • 4-  Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus Yes it does (*)

  • John 1:1
    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God was with authority
    (same Greek word for satan's rule (*) [2] [3])."
      

  • Detailed discussion about Jesus' Will (*) with ample verses.
      

  • In Islam, there are three "Worlds" or Realms:

  • (a)-  GOD Almighty, who is not seen by anyone or anything, nor is like unto anyone or anything.

    (b)-  The World of Command, which is the invisible world of the Beings that were made by the Word and the Spirit.

    (c)-  The World of Creation, the flush and blood, dust and water physical world and Universes (plural).

    Also visit: Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?

      
      
    "Father" and "Son" in Islam and the Bible:

    Christians often quote the following verses to prove that Islam is the Anti-Christ:

    1 John 2
    22  Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
    23  No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

      

    5-  What does the Glorious Quran say about the “Father” and “Son” titles:

  • The Quran is against the exaggerated and inflated meanings of the words, which ultimately the polytheistic religion of trinity was born out of.
      

  • Allah Almighty Said: "And they say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but) servants raised to honour (The Noble Quran, 21:26)"
      

    From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2141.msg9505#msg9505:

      

    The Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam, and the Majestic "We":
      

    .......

    In regards to your question, there are two legitimate answers for it:
      
    1-  GOD Almighty can and does refer to Himself as WE and I.  So the plural We can and does refer to Allah Almighty Alone.
      
    2-  In Allah Almighty's Realm, there are the People of Allah.  Even our Hadiths call them AHLU ALLAH أهل الله (Family of Allah).

  • Go to www.google.com, and search for إن لله - تعالى - أهلين من الناس، قالوا: يا رسول الله من هم؟ قال: هم أهل القران، أهل الله وخاصته
      
  • The Hadith in Arabic translates as:
      
    "Allah Almighty has AHLEEN (families) أهلين from mankind.  They asked: "O Messenger of Allah, who are they?"  He said: They are the People of the Quran; the Family/People of GOD أهل الله , and they are His Special Ones خاصته."
      
    Note: Every Spoken Word from GOD Almighty is Quran, even before Islam.
      
  • This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.  But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else.  You can visit:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm (The definition of "Son of God" in Islam)
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

    Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.
      
      
    Iblis, who later became satan, used to be from AHLU ALLAH
    أهل الله (Family of Allah) when he was a pious Servant.  But because he and his followers disobeyed GOD Almighty, they were cursed and kicked out of the COMMUNITY OF GOD Almighty:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/adam.htm
      
    So it is quite possible that Allah Almighty uses the WE to refer to Him and His Servants that HE spoke with directly and Commanded directly.  But even in that case, the WE still also means Allah Almighty Alone (the Majestic We), because Allah Almighty is the
     One and Only Decision Maker, and there is none other besides Him.
      
    I hope this helps, insha'Allah.
      
    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      
      

  • So people did call each others “Son” and “Daughter” of “GOD”. But in all reality, they are no more than Servants of GOD raised to honor.
      

  • Here are some Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON": 

  • Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى): See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78.
      
  • In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian".  المولى is derived from the root word ولي  .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty.
      
  • FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا).  We further read the following in the Bible:

    Isaiah 41:8 "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

    Chronicles 20:7 Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

    James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.
      
  • So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".  Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:
      
    [002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.
      
    [003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!
      
    [004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).
      
  • So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:
    1-  Is the Protector.
    2-  Is the Friend.
    3-  Is the Guardian.
      
  • Also, BEGET = CHOSE.
      
  • King James Bible Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
      
  • Allah Almighty used اصطفاك اصطفيتك يصطفي اصطفى اصطفينا to mean to Choose a Servant in Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 in the Glorious Quran.
      
  • So clearly Islam is in harmony with GOD Almighty being our:

    -  Guardian
    -  Friend
    -  Protector
    -  And the One who Chose us.
      
  • And we definitely believe that Jesus is the Messiah.
      
  • One last important point:  Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus ever called "from the Seed of GOD" or "the Seed of GOD".  We do have "Jesus is from the seed of David" (Psalm 132:10-11, Romans 1:3)But never from GOD!
      
  • GOD has no seed according to both the Bible and the Quran.
      
  • Therefore, the claim that Islam is the Anti-Christ is false.
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    So, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1john 2:22 No it isn't.  Here are some Quran and Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON" in more details:

    (a)-  Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى):

  • See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78.  In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian".  المولى is derived from the root word ولي  .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty, as in the following point.   

  • (b)-  FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا):

    We further read the following in the Bible:

    Isaiah 41:8
    "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

    Chronicles 20:7
    Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

    James 2:23
    And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.

    So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".  Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:

    [002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.

    [003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!

    [004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).

    So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:

    1-  Is the Protector.
    2-  Is the Friend.
    3-  Is the Guardian.

    Please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and definitions:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203     (backup)

      
    (c)-  BEGET = CHOSE:

    Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:

    King James Bible Psalm 2:7
    I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

    Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:

    [027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He has chosen اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?

    ‏27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون

    [003:033] God did choose اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-

    ‏3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين

    [003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee اصطفاك and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.

    ‏3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين

    [007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give thanks."

    ‏7:144 قال ياموسى اني اصطفيتك على الناس برسالاتي وبكلامي فخذ ما اتيتك وكن من الشاكرين

    [022:075] God chooses يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).

    ‏22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن الناس ان الله سميع بصير

    [035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen اصطفينا: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest Grace.

    ‏35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله ذلك هو الفضل الكبير

    [038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect المصطفين and the Good.

    ‏38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار

    [039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could have chosen لاصطفى whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the Irresistible.

    ‏39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار

    Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know.  Please visit:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

    Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

      

    Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT.  And as to calling GOD Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:

    1-  Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father).

    2-  Wali - Guardian.

    In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali.  But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual Father.  This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery.  No Jew is actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty!  Yet, the Jews use metaphors like these.  Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter.  Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons and daughters??  No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):

    [005:018] (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"

    Again, please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203     (backup).

      

    The Logical Fallacy and Corruption of 1 John 2:22:

    (d)-  Let's thoroughly look at the logical fallacy of this verse and its corruption:

    1-  " Who is the liar"??  Or should the text say who is the one who disbelieves?

  • The text clearly suggests that the book was written by a mere individual, whose emotions caused him to make a logical fallacy in the text, hence he is not a genuine Messenger of GOD.
     

  • Furthermore, we don't see this statement anywhere else throughout the Bible!  For such a serious statement to be truly from GOD Almighty, we would expect it to at the very least exist in any or all of the four gospels.  But it exists in none, and not even in Paul's writings either.  It only exists once in this late epistle.
     

  • Furthermore, the Bible’s commentary regarding 1 John book say:

    "1 John does not tell us who its author is.  The earliest identification of him comes from the church fathers..."  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1904)

    "The letter is difficult to date with precision...."  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)

    For book bibliography, visit: www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

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    2-  Also keep in mind that the 1 John book contains forgeries.  For example:

  • 1 John 5:7  "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."  This verse was proven to be a forgery, and was removed from all of the modern Bible translations.

    Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/1john5_7.htm

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    6-  Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1, *] [2] [3].  The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.  The root Word is "Eloh".  And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im.  And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah.  Jews do call Him: Allah-im.  Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah.  See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs.  Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah".  So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh.  It is Allah!  Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway.  Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew.  And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician.  See the following links:

               
           (Click to play videos)

           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

      


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