John 1:1,14 prove that Jesus, like Adam, was created from the Word of GOD Almighty.

Sam Shamoun exposes Christianity, and how it steals money and bankrupts its followers via over-demanding and excessive "sacrificial giving":

The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Where is Jesus' promise?? Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Totally a false promise!

The infestation of the Pauls:

Paul was a rodent from an infestation of rodents. The plague of tens (10s) of false messiahs and prophets at the time is thoroughly proven [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. Like the saying goes:

"You are a product of your environment"

Paul was certainly a product of the plenty of false liars that were roaming around:

Shortly after Jesus, 10s of false messiahs and prophets emerged.

Paul thoroughly exposed as a liar and charlatan. Exposed from his own books.

Paul's perfect, sinless and infallible pedophiles and thieves (1 Corinthians 2:15).

Visit: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].

Paul could lift mountains, and Jesus' disciples raising people from the dead.

What does the Quran say about John 1:1? How was Jesus created and how did he come to existence?

Sam Shamoun exposes Christianity, and how it steals money and bankrupts its followers via over-demanding and excessive "sacrificial giving":

Further from Muslim-SA:

1.2.2.6 John 1:1

Another verse quoted in defense of the "Trinity" is the verse of John 1:1 :

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

When I first learned of this verse it appeared to me that I had finally found my elusive goal. However, after substantial research into Christian theological literature, I would later come to learn that this verse too can not be interpreted to justify a "triune" God. My own experience has shown that this verse is the one most popularly quoted by most Christians in defense of the Trinity. For this reason I shall spend a little more time in it's analysis than in the analysis of the other verses.

First of all, it is quite obvious from simply reading the above verse that even in the very best case, this verse speaks only of a "Duality" not a "Trinity." Even the most resolute conservative Christian will never claim to find in this verse any mention whatsoever of a "merging" of a Holy Ghost with God and "the Word." So even if we were to accept this verse at face value and just have faith, even then, we find ourselves commanded to believe in a "Duality" and not a "Trinity." But let us see if this verse does in fact even command us to believe in a "Duality." To do this we need to notice the following points:

1) Mistranslation of the text:

In the "original" Greek manuscripts (Did the disciple John speak Greek?), "The Word" is only described as being "ton theos"(divine/a god) and not as being "ho theos" (The Divine/The God). A more faithful and correct translation of this verse would thus read: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was divine" (If you read the New World Translation of the Bible you will find exactly this wording).

Similarly, in "The New Testament, An American Translation" this verse is honestly presented as

"In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was divine."

The New Testament, An American Translation, Edgar Goodspeed and J. M. Powis Smith, The University of Chicago Press, p. 173

And again in the dictionary of the Bible, under the heading of "God" we read

"Jn 1:1 should rigorously be translated 'the word was with the God [=the Father], and the word was a divine being.'"

The Dictionary of the Bible by John McKenzie, Collier Books, p. 317

In yet another Bible we read:

"The Logos (word) existed in the very beginning, and the Logos was with God, the Logos was divine"

The Holy Bible, Containing the Old and New Testaments, by Dr. James Moffatt

Please also see "The Authentic New Testament" by Hugh J. Schonfield and many others.

If we look at a different verse, 2 Corinthians 4:4, we find the exact same word (ho theos) that was used in John 1:1 to describe God Almighty is now used to describe the devil, however, now the system of translation has been changed:

"the god of this world (the Devil) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not."

According to the system of the previous verse and the English language, the translation of the description of the Devil should also have been written as "The God" with a capital "G." If Paul was inspired to use the exact same words to describe the Devil, then why should we change it? Why is "The God" translated as simply "the god" when referring to the devil, while "divine" is translated as the almighty "God" when referring to "The Word"? Are we now starting to get a glimpse of how the "translation" of the Bible took place?

Well, what is the difference between saying "the word was God," and between saying "the word was a god (divine)"? Are they not the same? Far from it! Let us read the Bibles:

"I have said, Ye (the Jews) are gods; and all of you are children of the most High"

Psalms 82:6:

"And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made you a god to Pharaoh"

Exodus 7:1

"the god of this world (the Devil) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not."

2 Corinthians 4:4

What does all of this mean? Let me explain.

In the West, it is common when one wishes to praise someone to say "You are a prince," or "You are an angel" ..etc. When someone says this do they mean that that person is the son of the King of England, or a divine spiritual being? There is a very slight grammatical difference between saying "You are a prince" and between saying "You are THE prince," however, the difference in meaning is quite dramatic.

Further, it is necessary when translating a verse to also take into account the meaning as understood by the people of that age who spoke that language. One of the biggest problems with the Bible as it stands today is that it forces us to look at ancient Hebrew and Aramaic scriptures through Greek and Latin glasses as seen by people who are neither Jews, Greeks, nor Romans. All of the so called "original" manuscripts of the NT available today are written in Greek or Latin. The Jews had no trouble reading such verses as Psalms 82:6, and Exodus 7:1, while still affirming that there is only one God in existence and vehemently denying the divinity of all but God Almighty. It is the continuous filtration of these manuscripts through different languages and cultures as well as the Roman Catholic church's extensive efforts to completely destroy all of the original Hebrew Gospels (see last quarter of this chapter) which has led to this misunderstanding of the verses.

The Americans have a saying: "Hit the road men." It means "It is time for you to leave." However, if a non-American were to receive this command without any explanation then it is quite possible that we would find him beating the road with a stick. Did he understand the words? Yes! Did he understand the meaning? No!

In the Christian church we would be hard pressed to find a single priest or nun who does not address their followers as "my children." They would say: "Come here my children", or "Be wary of evil my children" ... etc. What do they mean?

A fact that many people do not realize is that around 200AD spoken Hebrew had virtually disappeared from everyday use as a spoken language. It was not until the 1880s that a conscious effort was made by Eliezer Ben-Yehudah to revive the dead language. Only about a third of current spoken Hebrew and basic grammatical structures come from biblical and Mishnaic sources. The rest was introduced in the revival and includes elements of other languages and cultures including the Greek and Arabic languages.

Even worse than these two examples are cases when translation into a different languages can result in a reversal of the meaning. For example, in the West, when someone loves something they say "It warmed my heart." In the Middle East, the same expression of joy would be conveyed with the words: "It froze my heart." If an Mideasterner were to greet a Westerner with the words: "It froze my heart to see you," then obviously this statement would not be greeted with a whole lot of enthusiasm from that Westerner, and vice versa. This is indeed one of the major reasons why the Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") have been so much more successful in the preservation of their holy text than the Christians or the Jews; because the language of the Qur'an has remained from the time of Muhammad (pbuh) to the present day a living language, the book itself has always been in the hands of the people (and not the "elite"), and the text of the book remains in the original language of Muhammad (pbuh). For this reason, a translator must not and should not "translate" in a vacuum while disregarding the culture and traditions of the people who wrote these words. As we have just seen, it was indeed quite common among the Jews to use the word "god" (divine) to convey a sense of supreme power or authority to human beings. This system, however, was never popularly adopted by them to mean that these individuals were in any way omnipotent, superhuman, or equal to the Almighty.

2) Basic message of John:

Now that we have seen the correct translation of the verse of John 1:1, let us go a little further in our study of the intended meaning of this verse. This verse was taken from the "Gospel of John." The very best person to ask to explain what is meant by a given statement is the author of that statement himself. So let us ask "John" what is his mental picture of God and Jesus (pbuh) which he wishes to convey to us:

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him."

John 13:16.

So the author of John tells us that God is greater than Jesus. If the author of this Gospel did indeed wish us to understand that Jesus and God are "one and the same," then can someone be greater than himself? Similarly,

"Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come [again] unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I."

John 14:28.

Can someone "go" to himself? Can someone be "greater" than himself?

"These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:"

John 17:1.

If John meant to tell us that "Jesus and God are one and the same" then shall we understand from this verse that God is saying to Himself "Self, glorify me so that I may glorify myself"? Does this sound like this is the message of John?

"While I (Jesus) was with them in the world, I kept them in thy (God's) name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled."

John 17:12.

If the author of John wanted us to believe that Jesus and God are one person then are we to understand from this verse that God is saying to Himself "Self, while I was in the world I kept them in your name, self. Those who I gave to myself I have kept ..."? Is this what the author intended us to understand from his writings?

"Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world."

John 17:24.

Similarly, did the author intend us to interpret this as "Self, I will that they also whom I have given myself be with me where I am; that they my behold my glory which I have given myself, for I loved myself before the foundation of the world"?

So, we begin to see that in order to understand the writings of a given author, it is necessary to not take a single quotation from him in a vacuum and then interpret his whole message based upon that one sentence (and a badly mistranslated version of that sentence at that).

3) Who wrote the "Gospel of John"?:

The "Gospel of John" is popularly believed by the majority of regular church-goers to be the work of the apostle John the son of Zebedee. However, when consulting Christianity's more learned scholars of Church history, we find that this is far from the case. These scholars draw our attention to the fact that internal evidence provides serious doubt as to whether the apostle John the son of Zebedee wrote this Gospel himself. In the dictionary of the Bible by John Mckenzie we read

"A. Feuillet notes that authorship here may be taken loosely."

Such claims are based on such verses as 21:24:

"This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true."?

Did the apostle John write this about himself? Also see 21:20, 13:23, 19:26, 20:2, 21:7, and 21:20-23. The "disciple who Jesus loved" according to the Church is John himself, but the author of this gospel speaks of him as a different person.

Further, The Gospel of John was written at or near Ephesus between the years 110 and 115 (some say 95-100) of the Christian era by this, or these, unknown author(s). According to R. H. Charles, Alfred Loisy, Robert Eisler, and other scholars of Christian history, John of Zebedee was beheaded by Agrippa I in the year 44 CE, long before the fourth Gospel was written. Did the Holy Ghost "inspire" the apostle John's ghost to write this gospel sixty years after he was killed? . In other words, what we have here is a gospel which is popularly believed to have been written by the apostle John, but which in fact was not written by him. In fact no one really knows for certain who wrote this gospel.

"Since the beginning of the period of modern critical study, however, there has been much controversy about [the Gospel of John's] authorship, place of origin, theological affiliations and background, and historical value"

The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, Volume 2, Abingdon Press, p. 932

4) Who "inspired" the author of this gospel to write this verse?:

The words of John 1:1 are acknowledged by most reputable Christian scholar of the Bible as the words of another Jew, Philo of Alexandria (20BC-50AD), who claimed no divine inspiration for them and who wrote them decades before the "gospel of John" was ever conceived. Groliers encyclopedia has the following to say under the heading "Logos"("the word"):

"Heraclitus was the earliest Greek thinker to make logos a central concept ......In the New Testament, the Gospel According to Saint John gives a central place to logos; the biblical author describes the Logos as God, the Creative Word, who took on flesh in the man Jesus Christ. Many have traced John's conception to Greek origins--perhaps through the intermediacy of eclectic texts like the writings of Philo of Alexandria."

T. W. Doane says:

"The works of Plato were extensively studied by the Church Fathers, one of whom joyfully recognizes in the great teacher, the schoolmaster who, in the fullness of time, was destined to educate the heathen for Christ, as Moses did the Jews. The celebrated passage : "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word Was God" is a fragment of some Pagan treatise on the Platonic philosophy, evidently written by Irenaeus. It is quoted by Amelius, a Pagan philosopher as strictly applicable to the Logos, or Mercury, the Word, apparently as an honorable testimony borne to the Pagan deity by a barbarian........We see then that the title "Word" or "Logos," being applied to Jesus, is another piece of Pagan amalgamation with Christianity. It did not receive its authorized Christian form until the middle of the second century after Christ. The ancient pagan Romans worshipped a Trinity. An oracle is said to have declared that there was 'First God, then the Word, and with them the Spirit'. Here we see the distinctly enumerated, God, the Logos, and the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost, in ancient Rome, where the most celebrated temple of this capital - that of Jupiter Capitolinus - was dedicated to three deities, which three deities were honored with joint worship."

From Bible Myths and their parallels in other religions, pp. 375-376.

6) What was "The Word"?

"O people of the book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which he bestowed upon Mary, and a spirit preceding from him so believe in Allah and his messengers. Say not "Three," desist! It will be better for you, for Allah is one God. Glory be to him. Far exalted is he above having a son. To him belong all things in the heavens and the earth. And enough is Allah as a disposer of affairs."

The noble Qur'an, Al-Nissa(4):171

In the Qur'an we are told that when God Almighty wills something he merely says to it "Be" and it is.

"Verily! Our (Allah's) Word unto a thing when We intend it, is only that We say unto it "Be!" - and it is"

The noble Qur'an, Al-Nahil(16):40 (please also read chapter 14)

This is the Islamic viewpoint of "The Word." "The Word" is literally God's utterance "Be." This is held out by the Bible where thirteen verses later in John 1:14 we read:

"And the Word was made flesh".

In the Qur'an, we read:

"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: 'Be.' And he was."

The noble Qur'an, Aal-Umran(3):59.

Regarding what is meant by Allah by "a spirit preceding from him" I shall simply let Allah Himself explain:

"And [remember] when Allah said to the angles: 'I shall create a human (Adam) from sounding clay, from altered mud. So when I have fashioned him and have breathed into him of my spirit, then fall down in prostration before him'"

The noble Qur'an, Al-Hijr(15):29

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An addition, in the above article, from our Greek brother and author on this site, brother Noor Adeen:

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Date:	Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:48:12 -0800
From:	"Noor Adeen" <adeenenator@gmail.com>
To:	"Osama Abdallah" <"Osama Abdallah">
Subject:	Re: Greeks will never live under islam again!

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A'salaamu'Alaikum dear brother Osama,

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The verse (John 1:1) in its original Greek Contex is written as this:

εν (at) αρχη (first) ην (is/was) ο (the) λογος (reason/intellect) και (and) ο (the) λογος (reason/intellect) ην (is/was) προς (towards/facing/with) τον (the) θεον (god) και (and) θεος (god) ην (is/was) ο (the) λογος (reason/intellect)

so once we translate the whole verse we're basically seeing:

At first is/was the reason/intellect and the reason/intellect is/was towards/facing/with God (ton theon) and god is the reason/intellect.

The problem with that verse in Greek is that we see theos being written as just theos (god/diety) and not as o theos or ton theon, which are proper ways of saying God (or the god = al ilah = Allah). So the part which is written solely on its own as "theos", could be implying just any random diety, of course with ton theon written before in the sentence we automatically assume that we're still talking about the same God. Over all though, logos does not mean word in ancient Greek, and the translation of logos to word is a corrupt modern translation of the meaning for word. Funny thing is the Greek word for Dictionary is Lexilogio, which is a combination of two words Lexi (word) and logio (logos = reason/intellect) so you can't say that lexilogio means wordword it means word-intellect, and the purpose of a dictionary is for the knowledge of words. The ironic thing is though, St John of Damascus who apparently had a high position during one of the Khalifa's reign during 747(?) is that he translated the Arabic word for Word from Quran's verses as 3:45 and 4:171 as Logos into the Greek. Strangely enough though, he was a scholar of Christianity whose opinion of Islam was that Islam was a heretic form of Christianity and as we all know that's incorrect and not what the Quran refers to its self, for it does not call its self Christianity. He was probably the earliest critic of Islam, of course who knows how this man was allowed to function as he did while working for the Khalif.

I hope you find this information useful and I hope all is well insha'Allah

yalla salaam

Noor Adeen

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John 1:1 answered from the Glorious Quran. Includes a Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran.

The Sahih Muslim Hadiths say that Jesus is GOD Almighty's Word and Spirit - Does this mean that Jesus is Allah Almighty?

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John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word ~~was God~~ was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [2] [3])."

Is Jesus the GOD-Man?

Dr. Edward Dalcour

Osama Abdallah

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Is Jesus Allah Almighty for creating things in the Noble Quran? And is he better than Prophet Muhammad for being a creator? And is there a contradiction in the Noble Quran regarding idol gods not being able to create and Jesus Christ? See the Books that Allah Almighty gave to certain powerful Beings to enable them to possess certain Powers and to do certain Miracles, including limited Creations.

Yahweh is Baal to the Jews in Isaiah 54:5 and Hosea 2:16. Exposing the Christians' pagan-god Baal lie.

Other important links: [1] [2] [3]

Also:
Jesus had no Divine Will according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?
Jesus said he had no Divine Will. Jesus had to seek permission from GOD before performing any Miracle.

Does Muhammad exist in the Bible?

Anthony Rogers

Osama Abdallah

Also visit: Prophet Muhammad was mentioned in the previous Scriptures. Also, his Prophetic Name, AHMED or AHMAD, was both mentioned in the Glorious Quran and the DEAD SEA SCROLLS. Yes, his name was recently found in the Dead Sea Scrolls as the coming Servant. See the image for yourself.

Is the Bible the True Word of GOD Almighty?

Louis Lionheart

Osama Abdallah

What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") believe are closest to the Truth, and Why? [1] [2]

Note to Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"):

As Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"), we must be very careful when we comment on the previous Scriptures, because there is always a possibility that there might be Divine Revelations parts in the verses that we might be objecting to. I know that the many of the disbelievers constantly insult and mock Islam all the time, and even lie on their own Scriptures with their "End of Times Prophecies" lies, -where they hijacked even the Bible with their bigotry, hate and lies, - but still dear brothers and sisters in Islam, we must always be very careful when we deal with previous Scriptures, because as Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") we do believe that they do contain remnants of Divine Revelations in them. May Allah Almighty forgive me, and forgive all sincere Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"), for any and all mistakes and errors that we may have fell into. Ameen.

The Gospel Christ:

So, what was the Gospel of Jesus Christ then, i.e., the Injil of Jesus Christ? Even among Christians, this remains a mystery. But the Didache; a Gospel which existed even before the current Bible-Gospels (or canonized Gospels), contains a great deal of teachings of Jesus Christ. The following points are important to always keep in mind: (1)- No single Scripture, the Didache or any other Scripture, is 100% pure and accurate. There are always forgeries and alterations. This is the same with every single book and gospel. (2)- The Original Teachings of Christ exist in Scriptures that are in the Bible and outside the Bible.

For ample proofs, watch the debate-video above.

Prophet Muhammad thoroughly prophesied in the Bible & Old Scriptures.

Zionist Israel will rule the earth with Mighty Evil! (Islamic Prophecy)

The Glorious Quran declared 1,400 years ago that the Israeli Zionist machine will rule the entire earth with mighty evil and power. They will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا of evil power and might on earth. See Noble Verses 17:4-8:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/nuclear_doom_prophecy.htm

Also, Israel will be annihilated by people of non-Muslims and Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") according to the Glorious Quran's Prophecy.

What does the Glorious Quran say about the Jews' mighty success and dominance in wealth, science, media and politics? "a rope from Allah and a rope from people" extended to them to enable the reaching of the Mighty Heights.

The Jews' financial domination and the Stock Market (control of the earth's wealth) are STUNNINGLY prophesied in the Glorious Quran!

https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1515.msg5943.html#msg5943 (backup)

https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1515.msg5950.html#msg5950 (backup)

https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#prophecies

https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

Also, Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, made a stunning prophecy about the one-eyed anti-Christ who will rule the infidels and the world:

Narrated Ibn Umar: "Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal (anti-Christ) saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 553)"

Prophet Muhammad had many visions about the dajjal, and gave many signs about him. Some of the things the Prophet said about the dajjal were literal, and some were vision-metaphors. The most prominent one is that he will be one-eyed. This is both literal and metaphoric. It is literal today because the zionist anti-Christ system is indeed represented by the ONE-EYE symbol as seen in the following images. The metaphors here are Allah Almighty not being ONE-EYED, because nothing can describe Allah Almighty. There is "none like unto Him" (Quran, 112:4). In other words also, the Prophet warned that this ONE-EYED SATANIC system will be a worshiped deity. And that false deity is not Allah Almighty. For ample more details and proofs, please visit link below.

Was the Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold before Islam in the Bible's Zechariah 11:17? I demonstrated using ample Biblical verses that the ONE-EYED DAJJAL (anti-Christ) was never prophesied in the Bible to be ONE-EYED, nor was this Sign ever given in the Bible to any being.

I also showed how Jesus Christ, from among many other verses, used this "right eye" expression. So it was never a Sign about the dajjal before Islam. It was no more than a general language of the Bible.

The Bible in many verses uses "right hand" and "right eye" expressions for people and for GOD Almighty.

None of these are Signs to anything.

For ample Noble Verses and Hadiths (Sayings of the Prophet), and proofs, please visit:

The ONE-EYED Dajjal's Signs and Powers according to Islam.

Also visit: 9/11 was 100% an Israeli Mossad Operation!

Many references of this Hadith (Saying) exist throughout our Islamic Texts. This is one of the most popular Hadiths and Prophecies of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. And indeed, we are seeing it come to pass before our very eyes. Please also visit:

The hijacked Bible.

Listen also to Jeremiah 18:1-10!

. No Prophecy is fixed. All can be cancelled by the Almighty.

The 666 symbol is actually referring to today's neo-con Christianity and Zionism! See the clear-cut proofs and images here.

Also see the sub-section: The Israeli 666 symbol.

Does the Bible predict the dividing of Israel? Who are the nations that divided Israel? And what will be their punishment?

The ONE-EYED Dajjal's Signs and Powers according to Islam.

Was the Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold before Islam in the Bible's Zechariah 11:17?

Sheikh Hamza Yusuf (Muslim convert Mark Hanson) on some of Islam's STUNNING End of Times Prophecies [1] [2] including ISIS:

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The Gospel Christ:

For ample proofs, watch the debate-video above.

Jesus is Yahweh the Son? See how Christians got this very wrong in the NT, using Jesus' words himself!
Also, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1 John 2:22?

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Oxymoron Trinity: Jesus is the resurrection (John 11:25), but yet he doesn't know when the Hour of the resurrection will come (Matthew 24:36) [1], and he had to cry, weep and beg GOD to resurrect Lazarus back to life. And this proves he is our Creator? And how is he exactly The Resurrection? Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own? This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols. All are helpless.

John 5:30 "I cannot do anything on my own." (i.e., I am totally powerless. In other verses, Jesus could not even perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!). And Jesus could not determine who gets to sit on his right and on his left in Heaven. Only GOD alone decides this, Jesus said. He also said:

John 5:31 "If I (Jesus) bear withness of myself, then I would be a liar!"

Matthew 9:3-4: Jesus said: Thinking I am GOD is an evil thought!

Contradictions in Jesus' miracle-less miracles. Mustard seed of faith and Great Faith both still failed: [1].

Except GOD Alone! Jesus rejected ἀγαθόν. Jesus forbade anyone from calling him ἀγαθόν. He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.

Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran? Yes. Here are several Noble Verses that do support it. Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD.

Doubting Thomas couldn't raise Jesus?? No way!! He raised many before (Matthew 10:7-8):

Thomas raised many people from the dead (Matthew 10:7-8). Yet, he and the disciples could not raise Jesus back to life after the crucifixion? Not only that, but they all fled, and Thomas became the "doubting Thomas" because he did not believe that the man who returned was Jesus. But did you not raise people from the dead already, Thomas? What happened there? You could've raised Jesus himself back to life with your own hands! Yet, it was impossible for you to believe that it was Jesus who returned? Why?

www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/arabs_no_longer_jews_dogs.htm

These alleged miracles are very loud! If you raise people from the dead, then the entire land of Palestine would've heard about it. Yet, nothing recorded historically about them. So do we have here loud miracles or loud lies?

Also, 1 John 2:22 church-written lie is discussed further down in details in this table. Ironically, the Bible's own theologians admit that 1 John contains forgeries by church fathers.

Doubting Thomas supposedly said (in Greek???) "My Lord and my God" to Jesus. The church thoroughly admits that NT is badly altered, and earliest copies of NT don't date before year 200. So not only the Aramaic original language of Jesus was never documented, hence his original sayings are permanently lost, but the Greek writings (a language Jesus never spoke) had been badly corrupted. Trinity and all its faulty analysis are based on writings that are totally off (different language and phrases spoken altogether) and utter nonsense. Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:

Moses was called "The God" (Exodus 7:1) of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh. Jesus said he was greater than Moses. Thomas, the Disciple, called Jesus "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28). Jesus denied to be GOD Almighty. All Believers were called "GODS and Sons of GOD" (Psalm 82:6) in the Bible. "GOD" in the Bible also means master, leader, priest. Therefore, the doubting Thomas' statement didn't suggest that Jesus was his Creator. And Jesus being a "God" doesn't mean that he is GOD Almighty. He is just another mere "God" like the rest of the believing creations and nothing more.

Except GOD Alone! Jesus rejected ἀγαθόν. Jesus forbade anyone from calling him ἀγαθόν. He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.

Jesus' rule is only limited to his Mansion. Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by twelve Thrones (also called them 12 Fruits). King of kings for Jesus does not refer to the corrupt earthly kings and thieves. They were offered to Jesus before during his temptation by satan, and Jesus ultimately refused them all. Jesus is the king of the twelve thrones inside his Mansion. Other people in the OT were called King of kings also. So the title is not even unique to Jesus.

Allah is the GOD of the Bibles: [1]

(Click to play videos)

Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)".

Please also visit: The definition of "Son of God" in Islam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

Yahweh is Baal to the Jews in Isaiah 54:5 and Hosea 2:16. Exposing the Christians' pagan-god Baal lie.

Contradictions in Jesus' miracle-less miracles. Mustard seed of faith and Great Faith both still failed: [1].

The Romans had to fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:

Click to play video [1]. Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore,
alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!

This Prophecy is a lie! Jesus laid on the floor, got healed, and got up and
left. He was never inside any coffin nor ever got buried. Also, because 100s
of thousands of pilgrims were coming to Jerusalem for the Passover, the
Romans had to rush his "crucifixion" and bring him down. The soldiers were
even denied food due to lack of time.
Jesus never got crucified: [1] [2] [3] [4]. The OT and NT clearly spell it out. He was saved.

Matthew 27:16-17: There were two Jesuses! Not one. Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:

‏[004:156] That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;
[004:157] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) know ledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
[004:158] Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-

Divine Setup for Conjecture:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.

"... but so it was made to appear to them..." (Quran 4:157)

Was Jesus Christ Crucified?


At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed
this debate and destroyed Christianity!

This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by
Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from
the Bible's New Testament that Jesus Christ was never
crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead. This 3-hour
debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.




Psalm 91 promises Jesus will never get hurt or die. Satan in the NT challenged Jesus on Psalm 91. Yashua (salvation) is the last word in Psalm 91, and it also happens to be one of Jesus' names in the New Testament.

Here is my shortened version video. Dr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones. But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video. See also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian brother on my blog. You're welcomed to join in.

Christianity's Salvation Lie:

Because Christianity's scriptures didn't get documented for 200+ years after Jesus, the Church and Christians had developed and invented the crucifixion lie and its requirement to save a person from Hell (by him believing in it), which had been thoroughly proven from both the Bible and the Glorious Quran, to be a fabricated lie [1]. Salvation verses like John 3:16 and others are all forgeries that were invented by liars 100s of years after the real Eesa , the real Messiah. Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus. Notice here Jesus' statements:

Matthew 9
12 Jesus heard them and answered, �Healthy people don�t need a doctor, but sick people do.
13 Go and learn what the Scriptures mean when they say, �Instead of offering sacrifices to me, I want you to be merciful to others.� I didn�t come to invite good people to be my followers. I came to invite sinners.�

Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

Being Merciful to others makes you a good person. And Jesus didn't come for you if you are. Jesus didn't come to invite merciful and good people. They're already saved. They need no invitation. The Christian lie about one must accept that Jesus died on the cross for his/her sins is mandatory for their salvation, and that otherwise they'd be doomed to Hell is thoroughly destroyed in Matthew 9:12-13.

Matthew 9:12-13 I have not come for you if you're a merciful Jew.

Three Isaiah 53 translation lies:

Three lies in translations of Isaiah 53, as further elaborated below in this table, that need to be clarified:

1- He was assigned a grave. This doesn't mean he was buried in it, because Jesus was never buried in any grave. He laid on the floor inside a tomb (cave-like structure), got healed and got up and left. He was never inside any coffin nor ever got buried inside the earth.

2- He was pierced for our sins. No, he was hurt (the word is not pierced or stabbed) because of "our" (Jews only) sins and transgressions. If you drive with your family and get hit by a drunk driver and your baby ends up getting killed, your baby didn't die for his sin. Your baby died BECAUSE of his sin and transgression. Otherwise, you would not have driven on the same road that day if you knew the future.

Also visit:

John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus

3- In his death. It is talking about his sentencing to death and not actual death. It is also symbolic, because Jesus didn't even stay for 3 hours on the cross (2.a) and was never killed. Plus, Jesus begged GOD (Matthew 26:36-44) all night to save him from crucifixion and all hurt. all hurt.

Lies about Psalm 91:13:

Some polytheist trinitarian pagans say that Psalm 91:13 proves that Jesus was never crucified:

Psalm 91:13
You will tread on the lion and the adder, the young lion and the serpent you will trample under foot.

They say that Jesus treading (stomping on) the lion and the snake means that he defeated satan via the cross. Satan is called both lion and snake. So Jesus stomped on him by getting crucified (killed on the cross) and resurrecting from death. They also say the NT books such as Matthew and Luke that quote Psalm 91 for Jesus both claim that Jesus was killed on the cross.

Response:

But Psalm 91:14-16 refute this:

14 Because he cleaves to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name.
15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him, and show him my salvation.

1- Also, Jesus was only placed for 3 hours on the cross (2.a). They had to pull the plug on crucifixion because the Passover was about to begin, where 1/2 million Jewish pilgrims were to shortly start pouring into Jerusalem. I, Osama Abdallah, would have survived Jesus' crucifixion.

2- Also, Jesus was never killed. He laid on the floor in the tomb, received medical treatment from the two Marys and other women, and then got up and left.

3- The books that say he was killed on the cross were written 200 to 400 years after Jesus. The majority of Christian historians and theologians claim this.

4- Psalm 91:15"...I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him." Clearly declares he will be saved from death.

Merciful Palestinian and Good Neighbor Parable:

5- Jesus said below in Luke 10:25-37, Matthew 9:12-13: If you're merciful, a good neighbor like the Palestinian Samaritan in Luke 10:33, and above all, GOD-Fearing (OT says Jesus was a slave of GOD and GOD-Fearing), then you have nothing to fear. "Do this, and you will live" Jesus said. That's it. Jesus even used good Palestinians in his parable. Dying on the cross is a developed Christian lie centuries after Jesus. It's a forgery.

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Visit section 2.a in the article.

Also visit:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses). Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

- Where is Jesus' promise??

Where was the Holy Spirit in all of this?

Remember:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Dismal Spiritual Failures:

Let us examine the following:

Romans 3:23 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:

1 Corinthians 2:15
"The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment."

How???

Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

Insufficient Jesus:

Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:

Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11. Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

Paul ate his vomit.

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

(Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?

Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity
are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty.
Sam Shamoun: If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity". It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal". Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist.
Click to play video clip.

Quran: Bibles are mostly corrupt.

Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article. According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament. There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44). Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text. Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT. It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty. The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty. We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:

Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:

www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm

The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet. The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:

Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe? Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Doesn't this prove that Islam is false? But he was preached!

The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them.

King Melchizedek [1]:

The Bible also says that Jesus had to be "in according to Melchizedek". And who is Melchizedek? According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20).

Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.

Also, Jesus said Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son. Son here means he is the Messiah. The Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the slave of GOD [1] and who also fears GOD. Yes indeed, the Islamic Isa (eesa) is the Messiah. This is his special sonship. He is also the Lord of his Mansion, which has twelve thrones or fruits [2]. He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard. He is also heir of GOD on earth only. That's the limit of his sonship. Otherwise, it is sun chips! There is nothing GODly about him. He is not our Creator. With all of his glory and might, he still remains a mere abd (slave) of GOD [1] as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD. See also:

Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran. They are "....no more than servants raised to honor. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".

Oxymoron Trinity.

Jesus is the heir of GOD on earth only.

Again, could "Jesus" and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own? This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols. All are helpless. All are worthless when compared to Allah Almighty.

Sun Chips oxymoron: The polytheist trinitarian pagans' oxymoron here is that they're making a sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no more than servants raised to honour") with their blasphemies of inflating him with hot air and making him the Creator of the Universe.

Jesus denied knowing when Judgment Day will come, and said I DON'T KNOW, ONLY GOD ALONE KNOWS!

1 John 2:22-23 [1] church-written lie are discussed further down in details in this table. Ironically, the Bible's own theologians admit that 1 John contains forgeries by church fathers.

For ample more details, visit:

Also, the Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam [1], and the Majestic "We" [1] [2] [3] [4]

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1904.msg7673#msg7673
www.answering-christianity.com/john20_28.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_miracles.htm (non of Jesus' Miracles were unique)
www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

Adam is greater than Jesus:

Jesus forbade people from calling him "son of David" and "son of Abraham" (Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") bless Abraham everyday. Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."). He said he is greater than them, and no one should call him son of any of these two servants of GOD Almighty. Yet, Jesus walked around and called himself son of Adam countless times:

Is Jesus greater than Adam? NT says no.

Oxymoron Trinity [1]:

From www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#permission:

Trinitarians: Jesus is our Creator.
Jesus: Why are you thinking such evil things?

Matthew 9:3-4 (CEV)
3 Some teachers of the Law of Moses said to themselves, �Jesus must think he is God!�
4 But Jesus knew what was in their minds, and he said, �Why are you thinking such evil things?

Mark 10:18 ""Why do you call me good ἀγαθόν (agathon)?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."
Good = agathon ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς

So from people who opposed and followed Jesus, some from both sides thought he was claiming to be GOD Almighty. Jesus absolutely rejected this blasphemy and misunderstanding!

Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times. Trinity is a lie from Hell. Also visit: How many members are there in the Trinity? There are 39+ Holy Figures.

- Where is Jesus' promise??

Where was the Holy Spirit in all of this?

Remember:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Dismal Spiritual Failures:

Let us examine the following:

Romans 3:23 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:

1 Corinthians 2:15
"The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment."

How???

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

Insufficient Jesus:

Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:

Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11. Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

Paul ate his vomit.

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

(Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?

Jesus is the resurrection (John 11:25), but yet does not know when the Hour of the resurrection will come (Matthew 24:36) [1], and he had to cry, weep and beg GOD to resurrect Lazarus back to life. And this proves he is our Creator? And how is he exactly The Resurrection? Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own? This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols. All are helpless. All are worthless when compared to Allah Almighty.

In the OT, Elisha and many others also raised the dead:

2 Kings 4
32 Elisha arrived at the woman’s house and went straight to his room, where he saw the boy’s body on his bed.
33 He walked in, shut the door, and prayed to the Lord.
34 Then he got on the bed and stretched out over the dead body, with his mouth on the boy’s mouth, his eyes on his eyes, and his hand on his hands. As he lay there, the boy’s body became warm.
35 Elisha got up and walked back and forth in the room, then he went back and leaned over the boy’s body. The boy sneezed seven times and opened his eyes.
36 Elisha called out to Gehazi, “Have the boy’s mother come here.” Gehazi did, and when she was at the door, Elisha said, “You can take your son.”
37 She came in and bowed down at Elisha’s feet. Then she picked up her son and left.

Is Elisha and others like him now our Creator?

John 5:30 "I cannot do anything on my own." (i.e., I am totally powerless. In other verses, Jesus could not even perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).

And Jesus could not determine who gets to sit on his right and on his left in Heaven. Only GOD alone decides this, Jesus said. Visit also:

Bible's problematic hyperboles. Jesus has, for example, caused Christians to eat pork, and they're now even the world's biggest pork consumers. But a closer look at the text reveals that he never allowed it and could never even DARE to violate GOD Almighty by allowing it.

The last two chapters of the book of Isaiah make an End of Time Prophecy about the evil and immoral ones who will be pork (pig's meat) eaters.

The Bible has ample problems with its hyperbole and excessive confusing metaphoric language, to a point where we don't know what Jesus actually means, and it has made lawful things sinful and sinful things lawful. Interestingly, people in the NT called Jesus a fat drunk, because they observed him drinking too much wine (alcohol) and eating too much. He was a "gluttonous, and a winebibber" (Matthew 11:19) [1] [2]. This could've played a major role in the nonsensical language that he was uttering left and right. Only Allah Almighty Knows best.

Ample more examples are given in the link above.

Did Jesus ever claim to be God? (8 minutes)

John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook,
that we must convict Jesus

Click on image to play video:

Video: 1, 2.
Sam Shamoun, the trinitarian barfoon, forgot that "GOD IS ONE" is
mentioned countless times in his scriptures. Also, Jesus was also called
"SLAVE OF GOD" in NT and OT. There is no Divine Son that is part of
Allah Almighty. That's one of the several things Islam came to correct:

www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses). Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

- Where is Jesus' promise??

Where was the Holy Spirit in all of this?

Remember:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Dismal Spiritual Failures:

Let us examine the following:

Romans 3:23 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:

1 Corinthians 2:15
"The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment."

How???

Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

Insufficient Jesus:

Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:

Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11. Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

Paul ate his vomit.

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

(Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?

Quran: Bibles are mostly corrupt.

Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:

Jesus, in the Bible, said he does not know when the Hour will come, only GOD alone Knows, Jesus said.

Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") honor the Virgin Birth:

We Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") believe in the virgin birth of Isa Al-Maseeh, from our mother Mariam, peace be upon them both. We also believe Isa performed many Miracles. In fact, it was the Christians who doubted the virgin birth. Islam came to cement it. But Isa (eesa) was nonetheless a creation of GOD Almighty, and a slave of GOD. Even the Old Testament calls Jesus "Slave of GOD":

Islam cemented the virgin birth of Jesus! Christians doubted it. Christian scholars admit this.

Isa (Jesus), the Islamic Messiah and creation of Allah Almighty, is NOT our Creator:

Jesus said if he bears witness of himself he would be a liar.

Jesus prostrated on his face and prayed and begged GOD all night long to save him from crucifixion.

Is Jesus greater than Adam? NT says no.

Jesus was called slave of GOD in Old Testament.

If Jesus was GOD questions.

None of Jesus' Miracles were unique in the Bible.

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

The Fly's Digestive Miracle - Mentioned in the Holy Quran and Confirmed by Science!

Is Jesus greater than Adam?  NT says no.
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!

- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
- They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
- Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted.


Where was the Holy Spirit in all of this?

Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit



Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:

1 Corinthians 2:15
"The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment."

How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.
Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?


Insufficient Jesus:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11. Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.
Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.
Paul ate his vomit.

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.
(Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)
Jesus amputated his unholy balls to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded the maiming of sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really???

Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?

Sun Chips Blasphemies:

Jesus said Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son. But the Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the slave of GOD [1] and who also fears GOD. Yes indeed, the Islamic Isa (eesa) is the Messiah. This is his special sonship. He is also the Lord of his Mansion, which has twelve thrones or fruits [2]. He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard. He is also the heir of GOD on earth only. That's the limit of his sonship. Otherwise, it is sun chips! There is nothing GODly about him. He is not our Creator. With all of his glory and might, he still remains a mere abd (slave) of GOD [1] as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD. See also:

Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran. They are "....no more than servants raised to honor. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".

Oxymoron Trinity.

Jesus is the heir of GOD on earth only.

What is Islam?

What is Islam?

How and Why do I convert to Islam?

How do I convert a non-Muslim to Islam?

Other:

www.answering-christianity.com/arabs_no_longer_jews_dogs.htm (according to Jesus)

www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm (Matthew 24:25-27: Jesus will return as an Arab from Syria)

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

Note: The (*) links below are html backups of the website's blog topic threads, in case the blog and its database are down.

From: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:

God in the OT addresses people as "my son" and describes them as his begotten son. Why does God use these terms with others in the time of Moses and Jesus and Abraham and other prophets, and now condemns these tittles in the Quran? Why would God give room to misuse these terms like the Greek and Romans did?

What is the definition of Messiah in the Quran?

Son of GOD definition:

From www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#permission:

Trinitarians: Jesus is our Creator.
Jesus: Why are you thinking such evil things?

Mark 10:18 ""Why do you call me good ἀγαθόν (agathon)?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."
Good = agathon ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς

So from people who opposed and followed Jesus, some from both sides thought he was claiming to be GOD Almighty. Jesus absolutely rejected this blasphemy and misunderstanding!

Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times. Trinity is a lie from Hell. Also visit: How many members are there in the Trinity? There are 39+ Holy Figures.

- Where is Jesus' promise??

Where was the Holy Spirit in all of this?

Remember:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Dismal Spiritual Failures:

Let us examine the following:

Romans 3:23 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:

1 Corinthians 2:15
"The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment."

How???

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

Insufficient Jesus:

Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:

Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11. Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

Paul ate his vomit.

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

(Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?

Allah is the GOD of the Bibles: [1]

(Click to play videos)

Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)".

Please also visit: The definition of "Son of God" in Islam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

Yahweh is Baal to the Jews in Isaiah 54:5 and Hosea 2:16. Exposing the Christians' pagan-god Baal lie.

www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm

Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran? Yes. Here are several Noble Verses that do support it. Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD.

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]

Except GOD Alone! Jesus rejected ἀγαθόν. Jesus forbade anyone from calling him ἀγαθόν. He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.

And other great figures in the Old Testament were also called:

Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?" [1]

Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.

I elaborated on this point in details at:

Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran? Yes. Here are several Noble Verses that do support it. Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD.

Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) of GOD:

www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

John 1:1:

John 1:1 answered from the Glorious Quran. Includes a Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran.

John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word ~~was God~~ was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [ [1] [2] [3])."

The Word encompasses Jesus:

From www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2884.msg13839.html#msg13839:

From brother Shaad:

The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in Revelation.....

Revelation 1:2

2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ

www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm

take care, Osama Abdallah

Messiah definition:

www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm

Also visit:

The Romans had to fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:

Click to play video [1]. Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore,
alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!

Divine Setup for Conjecture:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.

"... but so it was made to appear to them..." (Quran 4:157)

Christianity's Salvation Lie:

Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

Matthew 9:12-13 I have not come for you if you're a merciful Jew.

Three Isaiah 53 translation lies:

Three lies in translations of Isaiah 53, as further elaborated below in this table, that need to be clarified:

Also visit:

John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus

Lies about Psalm 91:13:

Some polytheist trinitarian pagans say that Psalm 91:13 proves that Jesus was never crucified:

Psalm 91:13
You will tread on the lion and the adder, the young lion and the serpent you will trample under foot.

Response:

But Psalm 91:14-16 refute this:

2- Also, Jesus was never killed. He laid on the floor in the tomb, received medical treatment from the two Marys and other women, and then got up and left.

3- The books that say he was killed on the cross were written 200 to 400 years after Jesus. The majority of Christian historians and theologians claim this.

4- Psalm 91:15"...I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him." Clearly declares he will be saved from death.

Merciful Palestinian and Good Neighbor Parable:

.........

Visit section 2.a in the article.

Also visit:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses). Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

- Where is Jesus' promise??

Where was the Holy Spirit in all of this?

Remember:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Dismal Spiritual Failures:

Let us examine the following:

Romans 3:23 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:

1 Corinthians 2:15
"The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment."

How???

Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

Insufficient Jesus:

Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:

Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11. Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

Paul ate his vomit.

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

(Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?

Quran: Bibles are mostly corrupt.

Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:

www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

Jesus' Original Name:

Prophet Jesus' original name was Eesa, as this is also his Islamic name. The article (Eesa) also gives ample Hebrew references and proofs. Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus. There is also a great deal of evidence that Jesus spoke and preached in Arabic. Not only that, but Greek wasn't even that popular in Palestine. Islam's claims are very strongly supported. See proofs below.

Did early Christians preach Prophet Muhammad in Rome?

Did the early believers preach Prophet Muhammad in Corinth, Antioch, Rome and all other places? Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, was the Jews' Messiah and final Prophet. In both the Glorious Quran and the Dead Sea Scrolls, Ahmed was prophesied to come. Ahmed in the Quran is Prophet Muhammad's prophetic name. Also, see below the Dead Sea Scroll image. The New Testament too predicts the coming of three:

1. Elijah.
2. The Messiah.
3. The Prophet.

John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44. Click on the images to expand:

John the Baptist calls Jesus a liar! (Matthew 11:1-6).

Roman massacres:

So did the early believers preach the coming of Prophet Ahmed or Muhammad? The answer is quite possible, but Muhammad would've been phase 2 for them and not phase 1. Jesus was the early believers' immediate Prophet, not Muhammad. And all of the details that they had were about Jesus, not Muhammad. It is also important to know that the following seven Roman Emperors have thoroughly burned all (burnt all) of the early believers' writings:

1. Nero (54-68)
2. Domitian (81-96)
3. Marcus Aurelius (161-180)
4. Septimius Severus (193-211; up to a point)
5. Maximinius I Thrax (235-8; up to a point)
6. Trajanus Decius (249-251)
7. Valerian (253-260)

Read all the details with references here. Also visit: How big was the first New Testament?

What we have today from "gospels" and "New Testament" were written 100 years to 300 years after Jesus' departure from this earth. So, the current writings that we have are not original writings. Also, to appease the Roman Empire's 3-headed pagan religion and practices, the pagan 3-headed trinity was invented [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. Many lies had been fabricated after the original writings were all lost. The Jews and Christians of Arabia, however, did have writings that predicted the coming of Prophet Muhammad. These were some of the original texts that survived.

The early believers were expecting an Arabian Prophet. The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:

From Why Jews settled in Arabia section:

Video and text are in the linked section above.

Jesus also preached in Arabic:

See the clear proofs in the following:

Proofs that early Christian believers' title was Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") from the Jews' and Christians sources themselves. Also, Greek wasn't even the first language in Palestine, nor was it even hardly spoken by the natives there.

Also, ample proofs that Jesus also spoke and preached in Arabic, and there were many early manuscripts written in Arabic that spoke about the coming of Prophet Muhammad in details. Arabic is estimated to date back 8000 to 20000 years by non-Muslim researchers, and had always been the first language in the entire lands of the Middle East, North and Central Africa.

Prophet Muhammad in the Early Christians' writings.

Prophet Muhammad foretold , by the name, in the previous Scriptures. We still have texts today and from the Bible itself and outside the Bible that tell about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and Islam as the Servant of GOD Almighty and the New Religion and Covenant of GOD Almighty, respectively.

Important:

- What is the definition of Messiah in the Quran?
- Jesus was created from the Word of GOD and filled with the Holy Spirit, according to Islam.

In the Bible, Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"), Salamays, Mushlams, Mushlems, Mushlimana are the Believers' original title [1]. Islam came to restore the original Faith [1].

Prophet "AHMAD" is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls:

Click on image to play video:

(Clip also in this article)

Prophet Muhammad in the previous Scriptures. Prophet Muhammad was thoroughly foretold in the Bible, and his prophetic Name, "Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this very Name, Ahmed [1] [2].

Father and Son Definitions:

Definition of Key Terms (*) (a discussion between me and a Christian):

1- What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible? How is it defined in Islam? (see point #5 below) How does the Bible really define it?

2- What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible?

3- Jesus had to match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament. See this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian. Jesus' Miracles and Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he needed to be in according to Melchizedek. He had to be “in according to Melchizedek” as the Bible specifically says. See Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20 [2].

Who is Melchizedek?

According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20) [2]. The Bible literally says that. Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.

Also again, see this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian.

4- Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus? Yes it does (*).

John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word ~~was God~~ was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule (*) [2] [3])."

Detailed discussion about Jesus' Will (*) with ample verses.

In Islam, there are three "Worlds" or Realms:

(a)- GOD Almighty, who is not seen by anyone or anything, nor is like unto anyone or anything.

(b)- The World of Command, which is the invisible world of the Beings that were made by the Word and the Spirit.

(c)- The World of Creation, the flush and blood, dust and water physical world and Universes (plural).

Also visit: Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?

1 John 2:22-23:

1 John 2:22-23 is another church-written lie. Again, ironically, the Bible's own theologians admit that 1 John contains forgeries by church fathers. Christians often quote the following verses to prove that Islam is the Anti-Christ:

1 John 2
22 Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") firmly believe in the Messiah and his virgin birth miracle. Islam cemented the virgin birth of Jesus belief after it was fading away. Christians admit this. Also, the Glorious Quran claims that sons of GOD title was used for servants raised to honor: Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran. They are "....no more than servants raised to honor. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".

"Messiah" is the sonship:

Jesus said Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son. Son here means he is the Messiah. The Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the slave of GOD [1] and who also fears GOD. Yes indeed, the Islamic Isa (eesa) is the Messiah. This is his special sonship. He is also the Lord of his Mansion, which has twelve thrones or fruits [2]. He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard. He is also heir of GOD on earth only. That's the limit of his sonship. Otherwise, it is sun chips! There is nothing GODly about him. He is not our Creator. With all of his glory and might, he still remains a mere abd (slave) of GOD [1] as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD. See also:

1- Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran. They are "....no more than servants raised to honor. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".

2- Oxymoron Trinity .

3- Jesus is the heir of GOD on earth only.

Sun Chips blasphemies:

The polytheist trinitarian pagans' oxymoron here is that they're making a sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no more than servants raised to honour") with their blasphemies of inflating him with hot air and making him the Creator of the Universe.

Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own? This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols. All are helpless. All are worthless when compared to Allah Almighty.

Did Jesus ever claim to be God? (8 minutes)

John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook,
that we must convict Jesus

Click on image to play video:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses). Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

- Where is Jesus' promise??

Where was the Holy Spirit in all of this?

Remember:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Dismal Spiritual Failures:

Let us examine the following:

Romans 3:23 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:

1 Corinthians 2:15
"The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment."

How???

Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

Insufficient Jesus:

Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:

Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11. Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

Paul ate his vomit.

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

(Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?

5- What does the Glorious Quran say about the “Father” and “Son” titles:

The Quran is against the exaggerated and inflated meanings of the words, which ultimately the polytheistic religion of trinity was born out of.

Allah Almighty Said: "And they say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but) servants raised to honour. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)"

From https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2141.msg9505#msg9505:

The Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam, and the Majestic "We":

.......

In regards to your question, there are two legitimate answers for it:

1- GOD Almighty can and does refer to Himself as WE and I. So the plural We can and does refer to Allah Almighty Alone.

2- In Allah Almighty's Realm, there are the People of Allah.  Even our Hadiths call them AHLU ALLAH أهل الله (Family of Allah)).

Go to www.google.com , and search for إن لله - تعالى - أهلين من الناس، قالوا: يا رسول الله من هم؟ قال: هم أهل القران، أهل الله وخاصته

The Hadith in Arabic translates as:

Allah Almighty has AHLEEN (families) أهلين from mankind. They asked: "O Messenger of Allah, who are they?" He said: They are the People of the Quran; the Family/People of GOD أهل الله , and they are His Special Ones خاصته.";

This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour. (The Noble Quran, 21:26))". Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven. But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else. You can visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm (The definition of "Son of God" in Islam)
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]

"....servants raised to honour.

Iblis, who later became satan, used to be from AHLU ALLAH أهل الله (Family of Allah) when he was a pious Servant. /span> But because he and his followers disobeyed GOD Almighty, they were cursed and kicked out of the COMMUNITY OF GOD Almighty:

www.answering-christianity.com/adam.htm

So it is quite possible that Allah Almighty uses the WE to refer to Him and His Servants that HE spoke with directly and Commanded directly. But even in that ca/span>se, the WE still also means Allah Almighty Alone (the Majestic We), because Allah Almighty is the One and Only Decision Maker, and there is none other besides Him.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

So people did call each others “Son” and “Daughter” of “GOD”. But in all reality, they are no more than Servants of GOD raised to honor.

Here are some Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON":

Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى): See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78.

In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian". المولى is derived from the root word ولي .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty.

FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا). We further read the following in the Bibles:

Isaiah 41:8/font> "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

Chronicles 20:7 Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.

So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:

[002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.

[003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!

[004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).

So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:
1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.

Also, BEGET = CHOSE.

King James Bible Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Allah Almighty used اصطفاك اصطفيتك يصطفي اصطفى اصطفينا to mean to Choose a Servant in Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 in the Glorious Quran.

So clearly Islam is in harmony with GOD Almighty being our:

- Guardian
- Friend
- Protector
- And the One who Chose us.

And we definitely believe that Isa (Jesus) is the Messiah.

One last important point: Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus ever called "from the Seed of GOD" or "the Seed of GOD". We do have "Jesus is from the seed of David" (Psalm 132:10-11, Romans 1:3). But never from GOD!

GOD has no seed according to both the Bible and the Quran.

Therefore, the claim that Islam is the Anti-Christ is false.

So, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1john 2:22? No it isn't. Here are some Quran and Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON" in more details:

(a)- Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى):

See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78. In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian". المولى is derived from the root word ولي .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty, as in the following point.

(b)- FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا):

We further read the following in the Bibles:

Isaiah 41:8
"But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

Chronicles 20:7
Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.

So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:

[002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.

[003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!

[004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).

So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:

1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.

Please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and definitions:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203 (backup)

(c)- BEGET = CHOSE:

Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:

King James Bible Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:

[027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He has chosen اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?

‏27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون

[003:033] God did choose اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-

‏3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين

[003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee اصطفاك and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.

‏3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين

[007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give thanks."

‏7:144 قال ياموسى اني اصطفيتك على الناس برسالاتي وبكلامي فخذ ما اتيتك وكن من الشاكرين

[022:075] God chooses يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).

‏22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن الناس ان الله سميع بصير

[035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen اصطفينا: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest Grace.

‏35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله ذلك هو الفضل الكبير

[038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect المصطفين and the Good.

‏38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار

[039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could have chosen لاصطفى whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the Irresistible.

‏39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار

Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know. Please visit:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]

Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT. And as to calling GOD Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:

1- Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father).

2- Wali - Guardian.

In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali. But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual Father. This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery. No Jew is actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty! Yet, the Jews use metaphors like these. Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter. Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons and daughters?? No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):

[005:018] (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"

Again, please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203 (backup).

The Romans had to fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:

Click to play video [1]. Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore,
alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!

Divine Setup for Conjecture:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.

"... but so it was made to appear to them..." (Quran 4:157)

Christianity's Salvation Lie:

Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

Matthew 9:12-13 I have not come for you if you're a merciful Jew.

Three Isaiah 53 translation lies:

Three lies in translations of Isaiah 53, as further elaborated below in this table, that need to be clarified:

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John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus

Lies about Psalm 91:13:

Some polytheist trinitarian pagans say that Psalm 91:13 proves that Jesus was never crucified:

Psalm 91:13
You will tread on the lion and the adder, the young lion and the serpent you will trample under foot.

Response:

But Psalm 91:14-16 refute this:

2- Also, Jesus was never killed. He laid on the floor in the tomb, received medical treatment from the two Marys and other women, and then got up and left.

3- The books that say he was killed on the cross were written 200 to 400 years after Jesus. The majority of Christian historians and theologians claim this.

4- Psalm 91:15"...I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him." Clearly declares he will be saved from death.

Merciful Palestinian and Good Neighbor Parable:

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Visit section 2.a in the article.

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Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses). Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

- Where is Jesus' promise??

Where was the Holy Spirit in all of this?

Remember:

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

Dismal Spiritual Failures:

Let us examine the following:

Romans 3:23 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:

1 Corinthians 2:15
"The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment."

How???

Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

Insufficient Jesus:

Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:

Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11. Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

Paul ate his vomit.

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.

(Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?

Quran: Bibles are mostly corrupt.

Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:

Allah is the GOD of the Bibles: [1]

Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1, *] [2] [3]. The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty. The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah. Jews do call Him: Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah. See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs. Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew. And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician. See the following links:

(Click to play videos)

Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)".

Please also visit: The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

       Yahweh is Baal to the Jews in Isaiah 54:5 and Hosea 2:16. Exposing the Christians' pagan-god Baal lie.

The Almighty Dollar: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

The Almighty Dollar & Power were the Ultimate Reason:

"Everyone who owned land or houses would sell them and bring the money to the apostles" (The Bible, Acts 4:34-35)

Paul could lift mountains, and Jesus' disciples raising people from the dead.

Sam Shamoun exposes Christianity, and how it steals money and bankrupts its followers via over-demanding and excessive "sacrificial giving":

The infestation of the Pauls:

Paul was a rodent from an infestation of rodents. The plague of tens (10s) of false messiahs and prophets at the time is thoroughly proven [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. Like the saying goes:

"You are a product of your environment"

Paul was certainly a product of the plenty of false liars that were roaming around:

Shortly after Jesus, 10s of false messiahs and prophets emerged.

Paul thoroughly exposed as a liar and charlatan. Exposed from his own books.

Paul's perfect, sinless and infallible pedophiles and thieves (1 Corinthians 2:15).

Visit: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].

Paul could lift mountains, and Jesus' disciples raising people from the dead.