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Child brides as young as 8 (eight) were common among the Byzantine emperors and nobility!
The article specifically says they were common and not exceptions!
Aisha in Islam:
Let's discuss the age of Aisha being 9 when she married our Prophet in Islam!
First of all, it is important to know:
Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet's marriage was:
It is important to know that girls during the Biblical and Islamic days used to be married off at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off. In other words, when they turn into "women", then they get married off. It was quite different for men on the other hand, because physical power and the ability of living an independent life had always been and will always be a mandatory requirement for men to have in life. So men waited much longer than women in terms of getting married. The guy had to develop both his body and mind before he was ready for marriage.
That is why you see girls as young as 9 or 10 were married to men as old as 30 or even older. The culture back then and in many third world countries today (NON-MUSLIM ONES TOO) is quite different than what you live in today.
Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!
So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
The pedophilia in the bible was quite different, because girls were raped at 3-years of
age by Moses and his men.
Also, in Exodus 21:7-11 as further elaborated on below, girls were sold off as slave girls by their own fathers to other men. So most certainly, no one is qualified to call the Prophet of Islam a pedophile!
*** X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.
*** Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.
Young girls in the Bible and Jewish Talmud. Let's look at two main points in the Bible:
1- 3-year old slave girls were
forced into sex under the Mosaic Law in the Bible.
2- Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls to other men in the Bible.
1- 3-year old slave girls were forced into sex under the Mosaic Law in the Bible:
Pedophilia with 3-year old slave girls in the Bible!
Forcing 3-year old slave girls into sex during the Mosaic Law in the Bible! (click here)
|Quick side Note:
Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [among them were virgin girls]."
Even though GOD Almighty's share of the 32 virgin girls is metaphoric, meaning that He didn't come down and have sex with them, but if any wants to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile or womanizer for marrying (his best friend's daughter with both her parents' approval) a young girl and marrying multiple women throughout his life, then he should not only call his Biblical Prophets as such, but also the GOD of Israel Himself!
Also today, the Jewish law for marriage sets the age of consent for females at 11. (Consent is only one way of marriage) I do not know if modern Jewish law still allows (in theory) betrothal by intercourse as it was practiced in ancient times.
Thirty years ago, the renowned sexologist R.E.L. Masters and Allan Edwardes said in their study of Afro-Asian sexual expression (_The Cradle of Erotica_, Julian Press, New York:1962) said, "Today, in many parts of North Africa, Arabia, and India, girls are wedded and bedded between the ages of five and nine; and no self-respecting female remains unmarried beyond the age of puberty."
**** Also, the age consent in the US and Europe only 100 years ago for girls' marriage was as little as 10, and some popular men figures married little girls who were as young as their daughters. I have provided the Western links and proofs.
By the way, please visit: X-Rated Pornography in the Bible. The Bible literally says that women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine".
Also visit: Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.
2- Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls to other men in the Bible:
7. "If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.
8. "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
9. "If he designates her for his son [Note: "his son" means that the master is either her father's age or even much older!], he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters.
10. "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.
11. "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.
First of all, did the daughter have any choice to be sold off by her father, married off by her master to either himself or his son? No!
Also, the fact that the master can either marry her or marry her off to his son, means that MOST LIKELY, SHE IS HIS DAUGHTER'S AGE and younger than his son!! So he's probably at least 30+ years older than her. Yet, he himself (her father's age or even MUCH older) can marry her.
Again, please visit: X-Rated Pornography in the Bible. The Bible literally says that women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine".
Also visit: Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.
Also, the fact that there is no AGE LIMIT to how girls in the Bible were sold off and married off to other men, WITHOUT ANY CHOICE, who were much much older than them as also the case with the Biblical Prophets who married 100s of wives each clearly proves the hypocrisy of some Christians who attack Islam through Aisha's very young age, while they clearly ignore the same fact in their own Bible. Here is a sample of the 100s of wives of the Biblical Prophets:
In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.
In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.
In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.
Please visit: Aisha was "9" when she married our Prophet. If this is weird or unacceptable to you, then are BOTH HER PARENTS and the whole Arabs' culture BACK THEN also guilty for giving her and others like her in marriage to other men, 1500 years ago?
Even today, girls in many third-world countries are married off at the same or similar age. Also, it is believed by many Jews and Roman Catholics that Mary was 12 - 14 when she had Jesus. Also as I said, the Biblical Prophets who had 100s of wives each most probably married young girls as well.
Also, what about Aisha's PARENTS (MOM AND DAD)? Didn't they see it right and fit to marry their daughter at that age and at that time?Who are we to judge?
Also, see why Muta (temporary) Marriage was allowed and why it was discontinued.
A picture and news paper article about a 9-year old girl from Thailand gave birth
A 12-year old Christian girl getting married in Romania
Also as I said, didn't the Biblical Prophets marry 100s of wives each? Is it possible that some of those wives were little girls as well? It's both highly probable and possible!
Mr. Sam Shamoun of "Answering Islam" even admits that his grandmother was 12 when she got married:Note: I won't go into the details of his cheap insults and trash words, because I am much higher and classier than him. He has proven himself several times to be a foul-mouthed total loser.
QuranSearch Com: question
Answering Islam: yes
QuranSearch Com: how old was your grandma when she got married?
Answering Islam: 12 perhaps
The fact that his own Biblical Prophets married 100s of wives each and fathers used to sell their daughters as slave girls to other men without any age limit makes it extremely possible and probable that several if not many of these wives were little girls between 9 to 13, while the Prophets were MUCH MUCH OLDER than them. If his own grandmother who exited THOUSANDS of years later still married at 12, then what makes it impossible for girls during Biblical times to have married way much older men than them when they were little ones?
Since there is no age limit for the girl to be sold by her own father as a slave girl to another man, WHO CAN HAVE SEX WITH HER, then I want to ask Mr. Sam Shamoun here:
Aren't you a total hypocrite for denying that little girls were sold off and married off during biblical times at very young age to much much older men (as I proved in Exodus 21:9 above), while making fierce charges against Islam on Aisha's age?
How do you respond to this?
Rebuttal to Silas' "Muhammad, Aisha, Islam, and Child Brides" article:
Subj: Islaamic Rule About Attaining Puberty & Istihâdah (Bleeding) and its Pertinent Rules
Date: 10/11/2003 10:17:12 AM Central Standard Time
I like to contribute some important information that will inSha Allaah educate Muslims and non-Muslims alike about the absurd claims advanced by Christian missionaries to attack Islaam and the character of our beloved Prophet (SAW). It is about Prophet Muhammads (SAW) marriage to Aiysha (RA). There is an article by Christian missionary "Silas" refuted at your site titled: "Muhammad, Aisha, Islam, and Child Brides." Silas, who authored the article, is either concealing the complete information and/or he is attacking Prophet Muhammad (SAW) under the "pretext" of "child", because no one can define and/or decide what child is? In the English language the meanings of the word "adult" are defined in a very vague and ambiguous way according to the man-made law. However, the meaning of word "child" according to American Heritage Dictionary is about right: child (ch?ld) n., pl. chil·dren (chıl"dr n). Abbr. ch. 1. A person between birth and puberty. The following are the Shariah rules, it does not matter what enemies of Islaam think and say. Girls attain puberty at different ages; just ask the girls and/or their mothers. That means the age a girls attained puberty and started her menses, it means she is ready for sexual intercourse, ready get married and procreate according to Allaahs law. Even in todays age and time in USA, where 53% children are born out of wedlock (are bastards) there have been cased girls giving births age the ages of 9 & 10.
Islaamic Rule About Attaining Puberty
When a girl gets menses started or though menses has not started, but she becomes pregnant or though she has not been pregnant, but she commits sexual intercourse in dream and had a seminal discharge as well as taste of sexual intercourse... then in all these three state of affairs she attains puberty.
'Suam' and all other orders of *Shariah* (Code of Islaam) will be applied on her. In case, she has not yet experienced any one of the three things mentioned above but has now become fifteen years old, then also she becomes young (or attains puberty) and she will come under the laws, which are applied, on a young girl.
**Rule: In Shariah, to become young means to attain puberty. No woman (girl) can be young before *NINE*. Even if she starts bleeding before (before nine) she cannot be taken as young. The blood, which comes before nine, is not menses but 'Istehada'-- and orders of Shariah are different for Istehada.
Istihâdah (Bleeding) and its Pertinent Rules
Istihâdah means continuation of the running of the blood out of the women either permanently or to be stopped for a very short period such as one or two days per month.
As evidence for the first instance in which the blood will continue permanently is as what has been mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhâri conveyed from `Aishah may Allah Almighty be pleased with her, who said:
Fâtimah bint Abu Hubaish said to Allâh's Messenger peace be upon him. (O Allâh's Messenger, I am never in a state of cleanliness), and in another narration she said: (I have the blood of Istihâdah in a way which I never get cleaned thereof.
The evidence for the second case in which the blood does not stop except for a short period is the tradition of Hamna, the daughter of Jahsh may Allah Almighty be pleased with her who came to the Prophet peace be upon him and said:
I have the blood of Istihâdah as a severe and heavy one.
Imam Ahmad, Abu Dawood and At-Tirmidhi have narrated this tradition. Imâm Ahmad graded it as Sahih (a sound tradition) and others conveyed it as the same from him. It is also transferred from Imam Bukhâri who graded it as Hasan (a fair tradition).
The Conditions of the Woman who is in the state of Istihâdah (Bleeding)
Under this category we have three cases:
The First Case: If a woman has a known period of menstruation before being in Istihâdah. Such a woman should refer to the duration of her previous known menstruation and stick to this period. The rules of menstruation will eventually apply to her. As regards to the extra days it will be defined as Istihâdah, which in turn will take the rules of Istihâdah. As an example for the above case:
A woman who used to receive her monthly course for six days at the commencement of each month. However, it happened that the blood of Istihâdah attacked her and she started to have it continually. The rule is that such a woman will count her monthly period as only six days from the start of the month. The extra days will be considered as Istihâdah, which in turn will take the rules of Istihâdah.
The fact is expressed in parallel with the tradition of `Aishah may Allah Almighty be pleased with her that Fâtimah bint Abu Hubaish may Allah Almighty be pleased with her said:
O Messenger of Allâh! The blood of Istihâdah flows out of me heavily, as a result of which I never get cleaned. May I stop performing prayers?) He said: (No, because it is blood from vein, but stop performing the prayer for the number of days which will be equal to those during which you have been receiving your monthly period, then have a cleansing bath and offer the prayer. (Al-Bukhâri)
There is another narration in Sahih Muslim that the Prophet said to Umm Habibah bint Jahsh:
Stay a time equal to that time of your monthly period; thereafter have a cleansing bath, offer the prayer; and then do not care about the extra blood.
The Second Case: When the woman has no specified period of menstruation before being in Istihâdah in the sense that the blood of Istihâdah has been continued frequently with her since the first time she saw the blood running out of her. This woman with such a case will be in a position to use the method of distinguishing (differentiation), i.e., the period of menstruation will be distinguished by the blood being black or thick or of certain smell which all have the same rules applied to the blood of menstruation. The blood, which proved to be otherwise specified, will be distinguished as blood of Istihâdah having hereby its relevant rules.
As an example for the above point: A woman who at first saw the blood which continued to afflict her as black in color for ten days and remaining of the month as red in color. Or she sees it thick for ten days and thin for the remaining days of the month; or it smells with the scent of menstruation for the first ten days and the remaining days of the month without scent. Her monthly period will be then fixed (considered) when the blood is black as in the first example, and when the blood is thick as in the second example and the one with the scent as in the third example. The conditions other than the above will be specified as an Istihâdah.
This has been decided in accordance with the tradition of the Prophet peace be upon him when he said to Fâtimah bint Abu Hubaish:
The blood of the menstruation is known to be black. So if it is so, stop to offer your prayer. But if the blood was something different, then have your ablution and perform the prayer. Since it is blood from vein.
Narrated by Abu Dawood and An-Nasa'i and authenticated by Ibn Hibbân and Al-Hâkim. This tradition however, has some conservations (considerations) as to its chain of authorities and text, the `Ulama worked accordingly and it is better than to be referred to the course (custom) of the most of women.
The Third Case: When the woman has neither an established period of menstruation nor is in a position to distinguish her period properly in the way the blood of Istihâdah will be running continuously from the first moment she sees the blood.
This is besides that the blood will be of one quality or of confusing qualities, which cannot be a blood of menstruation.
The decision is that such woman will judge by analogy with the monthly course of most of the women, i.e., her period would be of six or seven days from every month starting from the first period during which she has the blood which otherwise will be as Istihâdah.
As an example thereof: The concerned woman sees the blood firstly on the fifth instance of the month frequently befalling her without being distinguished (specified) as to its color or as something else in a form to fit as the blood of menstruation. Hence, her monthly period will be six or seven days from the commencement of each month starting from the fifth day of the month. This keeps abreast with the tradition of Hamna bint Jahsh that she said:
O Messenger of Allâh, I have the blood of Istihâdah in such a severe and bloody form that it prevents me from offering prayer and fasting.) He said: (I prescribe you to use Al-Kursuf because it absorbs or removes the blood away.) She added: (The blood is much more than I mentioned.) The Prophet replied, (It is a kick of the Satan, so your period will be eventually six or seven days which will be in the knowledge of Allâh. After they pass, have a cleansing bath. When you see that you got purified and cleared, offer the prayer for 24 or 23 nights with days and fast for equal days.
The above Hadith is mentioned by Ahmad, Abu Dâwud and At-Tirmidhi. They all have graded it as Sahih (a sound tradition). Imâm Bukhâri graded it as Hasan (a fair tradition).
That the Prophet says six or seven days, it is not an option, but it is an endeavor to see around those ladies who are in analogy with her status, i.e., those who look like her as to figuration (constitution), age, and relationship rank and whose blood of menstruation is like her and other considerations.
Hence, and in view of the above, if it is thought that the period comes nearer to be six, it should be so, and if it is determined to be seven, she should make it seven days.
The Woman who is in a state similar to the bleeding one (Al-Mustahâdah)
A symptom may occur to the woman, which causes bleeding of the blood out of her vulva due to an operation on the womb or another organ. Such a woman will be classified under two types:
The First Type: It is to be aware that she will not be able to menstruate after an operation for the eradication of the womb in full or just closing it in the way to prevent running the blood there from.
The rules of the bleeding woman (Al-Mustahâdah) will not apply to the above woman, instead, the rules of the female who sees yellowness, dinginess or humidity after cleanliness. Consequently, she has neither given up the prayers and fasting nor stopped having intercourse. Also it is not incumbent upon her to have a cleansing bath due to dropping of this blood.
On the other hand, it is obligatory on her on the time of prayer to wash away such blood and to bind a piece of cloth around her vulva to prevent running out of the blood, then to have an ablution for offering the prayers.
Here, she should not start ablution for the obligatory prescribed prayer except after the time of this prayer has become due.
Regarding the absolute voluntary prayers she can otherwise make an ablution whenever she desires to offer such prayers.
The Second Type: It will not be known that menstruation will stop after the operation, but it is possible that she may get menstruated. Such a woman will have the same rule of the bleeding woman (Al-Mustahâdah) to be applied.
Rules of Bleeding (Istihâdah)
From the above foregoing, we already know when the blood will be a menstruation and when it will be a bleeding (Istihâdah). Thus, once it proved to be menstruation, it will take the rules of menstruation, and once it proved to be a bleeding (Istihâdah), it will take the rules of Al-Istihâdah accordingly.
The most important points pertaining to the rules of menstruation have already been mentioned. However, regarding the rules of the bleeding (Al-Istihâdah), they are like the rules of purification. There is no difference between the bleeding woman (Al-Mustahâdah) and the cleaned one, except for the following:
First: It is a duty on the bleeding woman to perform ablution for each prayer of the five obligatory prayers separately every day, even if she did not urinate or evacuate her bowels. This is evidenced by the tradition of the Prophet when he said to Fatimah bint Abu Hubaish:
Then have ablution for each fixed prayer. (Al-Bukhâri)
It means that she does not have to perform ablution for the fixed prayer unless its due timing has already started. However, if the prayer is not fix (but a voluntary) prayer, she can have ablution at the time she desires to perform.
Second: If she desired to perform ablution, she should first wash away the traces of the blood and then tie a piece of clothe around her vulva to retain the blood. This should be followed in response to the Prophet's saying to Hamnah:
I prescribe you Al-Kursuf (the cotton) because it removes away (absorbs) the blood. She said: (It is furthermore.) He replied: (Take a dress.) She added: (It is still furthermore).
The Prophet said: (Put a tie (bridle) around the vulva, and it will not harm you what will be going to run out of you thereafter.
This is because the Prophet said to Fâtimah bint Abu Hubaish:
(Avoid performing prayers during the period of menstruation, then have a cleansing bath and perform ablution for each fixed prayer separately, and lastly offer the prayer even when the blood has fallen out onto the mat.) (Ahmad and Ibn Mâjah).
Third: Sexual intercourse: The Islamic scholars differed about its permission, if man did not fear to commit fornication - the correct argument, it is permissible absolutely, since many women amounting to ten or more got bleeding in the life of the Prophet and nevertheless, neither Allâh Almighty nor His Prophet banned (forbade) having an intercourse with them. On the other hand, what Allâh said in the Noble Qur'aân (2:222):
They ask you concerning menstruation. Say: that is an Adha (a harmful thing for a husband to have a sexual intercourse with his wife while she is having her menses), therefore keep away from women during menses and go not unto them till they are purified (from menses and have taken a bath). And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allâh has ordained for you (go in unto them in any manner as long as it is in their vagina). Truly, Allâh loves those who turn unto Him in repentance and loves those who purify themselves (by taking a bath and cleaning and washing thoroughly their private parts, bodies, for their prayers).
(The Noble Quran, 2:222)
This is obvious evidence that they should not be isolated in such states other than the state of menstruation. Also it is admissible for the bleeding woman to perform prayers, the fact in which intercourse will be an easier matter compared to the subject of prayers. It should be kept in mind that comparison will not be correct if it is made between practicing intercourse with the woman in state of bleeding, and that in the menstruation since they are not alike. Even to those who say that intercourse is forbidden. Consequently, analogy will be void when there is such differentiation.
Your brother in Islaam
Shahid Bin Waheed
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5:7-8 confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible!
According to the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible", which I watched on the History Channel, some of Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the current Bible, and these Epistles contain what Islam claims - that Jesus didn't get crucified on the cross and it only appeared that he was. This banned part also says that Jesus was standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible that only few people in the world know about.
According to the documentary film, the apocalypse was very popular among Christians during the 2nd century. They believed "it was spiritually inspired" by GOD Almighty to Saint Peter. They actually had doubts about "John's apocalypse", which is known today as "the Book of Revelation". Interestingly also, this apocalypse says that after GOD Almighty fills both Heaven and Hell with inhabitants from Mankind, and the people of Hell get tortured for a long period of time, the People of Heaven will ask and Pray to GOD Almighty to Forgive the people of Hell. GOD Almighty will then eventually listen to their Prayers, and will order the "Gates and the Steel Bars of Hell" to be opened and allow the people of Hell to enter Heaven for Good. This apocalypse of Peter seems to also perfectly fit Noble Verse 7:40 in the Noble Quran where Allah Almighty Promised that He will eventually open the Gates of Heaven to all disbelievers and empty Hell. Please visit: Hell will eventually be empty according to Islam.
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