How can Jesus be God when the Hebrew Bible says God is not a
man? Cf. Numbers 23:19; 1 Samuel 15:29; Hosea 11:9.
Answer:
None of those biblical texts say God CANNOT be a man, but say that God IS not
a man, a major difference:
"God IS not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his
mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill
it?" Numbers 23:19
"And also the Glory of Israel will not lie or have regret, for he IS not a man,
that he should have regret." 1 Samuel 15:29
"I will not execute my burning anger; I will not again destroy Ephraim; for I am
God and not a man, the Holy One in your midst, and I will not come in
wrath." Hosea 11:9
Trinitarians: Jesus is our Creator. Jesus: Why are you thinking such evil things?
Matthew 9:3-4 (CEV) 3 Some teachers of the Law of Moses said to themselves, "Jesus must think he is God!" 4 But Jesus knew what was in their minds, and he said, “Why are you thinking such evil things?
Mark 10:18 ""Why do you call me good ἀγαθόν (agathon)?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." Good = agathon ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς
So from people who opposed and followed Jesus, some from both sides thought he was claiming to be GOD Almighty. Jesus absolutely rejected this blasphemy and misunderstanding!
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
We read in
the Bible that Prophets are servants and
Jesus is the Son
(Matthew 21:33-46).
Jesus is more than a Rasul
(Prophet). Jesus was
also called Abd (slave) of GOD
throughout the Old Testament, as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of
GOD.
Jesus' rule is only limited to
his Mansion.
Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by
twelve Thrones
(also called them 12 Fruits). Jesus being
King of kings
means that he is the King of his Mansion's
twelve thrones.
In the Bible,
"the
Son" refers to the
Messiah, - the
Ultimate Messenger to the Jews. Son in
their time meant Servant of GOD. Allah
Almighty also explained it precisely like this
in the Glorious Quran:
"....servants raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
Please visit:
This is what we will be called in
Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize
"Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but
Says that they are no more than pious"....servants
raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
Nothing Divine about them except that they exist
with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.
But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all
Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah
Almighty Alone and none else. You can
visit:
Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."
And other great figures in the Old Testament
were also called:
1-
GOD (El) of
other people.
2- Son of GOD.
3- Begotten Son of GOD.
4- GOD's First Born.
5- GOD's Heir and Heirs (for believers).
6- GODly name with Yahweh and El attached to the name.
7- King of Kings (called by Yahweh Himself in the OT).
8- All believers are GODs (Elohim) and Sons of GOD (Beni Elohim).
Is Jesus
"God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?"
[1]
King James
Version Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and
of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in
thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up
his Son Jesus,
sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
New King
James Version Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of
the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in
your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.
Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up
His Servant Jesus,
sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.
"Servant" here is slave. Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2],
the
same word used for the Jews' slaves, and all slaves in general,
throughout
the Bible [2].
Jesus, the abd of GOD, is also the slave of GOD in the NT.
In Arabic also it's the same. My name
Osama Abdallah,
which means
Osama slave of Allah (GOD). Slave is a subject of GOD. A
servant is
independent. A servant provides services. He/she can quit serving
without consequences and can even kick you out of their territory.
But
a
slave (ABD) is totally OWNED.
The Servants are the
Prophets of Israel. But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the
Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet.
Jesus' rule is
only limited to
his Mansion. Jesus also said that
this Mansion is ruled by
twelve Thrones (also called them 12
Fruits).
Prophets are Servants,
Jesus is the Son
(Matthew 21:33-46).
Jesus is only
the Lord of the Jews' Mansion.
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God
was with authority
(same Greek word for
satan's rule
[ [1]
[2]
[3])."
The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in
Revelation.....
Revelation 20:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and
judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were
beheaded for the ;witness
of Jesus,
and for
the word of God...
Revelation 1:2
2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the
word of God and
the testimony
of Jesus Christ
Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad. I took
the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi. Indeed,
the Word of GOD Almighty
ENCOMPASSES Jesuss,
because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares.
GOD Almighty can put Himself or make Himself anything. The verses above don't
have to say that He can not, because that would then be absurd! But the moment GOD
Almighty chooses to become a man, He would immediately contradict His Declaration of not
being a man at Numbers 23:19, 1 Samuel 15:29, Hosea 11:9 and Job 25:4-6:
1- "God IS not man, that he should lie, or
a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do
it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?" Numbers
23:19
2- "And also the Glory of Israel will not lie or have regret,
for he IS not a man, that he should have regret." 1 Samuel 15:29
3- "I will not execute my burning anger; I will not again destroy
Ephraim; for I am God and not a man, the Holy One in your midst,
and I will not come in wrath." Hosea 11:9
4- From brother Muxiiaydeen, may Allah
Almighty always be pleased with him:
Job 25:4-6
4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he
be clean that is born of a woman?
5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.
6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?
Man born from
a woman and Son of man are nothing but despicable
and worthless "worm" (Job
25:4-6 above)!
Yet, Jesus was born from a woman,
was a man, and was also called "son of man":
Psalm 80:17
Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand, the son
of man you have raised up for yourself.
Matthew 26:24
The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But
woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he
had not been born."
Mark 14:21 The Son of Man will go just as it is written
about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It
would be better for him if he had not been born.
Important Note:
It is clear that GOD Almighty was, perhaps, preparing for
the coming of Jesus, the Messiah. His Declaration of Himself
(GOD Almighty) not being a man, not being a "son of man", and not being born
from a woman seems to suggest that He is Declaring in advance that Jesus is not and can
not be the Creator of the Universe to eliminate all confusion and blasphemy.
Jesus is
not GOD, and GOD is not (a
despicable "worm")
man!
In the light of the above passages, GOD
Almighty clearly Declared that He would never become a man!
From brother Abdullah Smith,
may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
"For I [am] the LORD, I change not;
therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed." (Malachi
3:6)"
GOD Almighty
does not change!
He therefore WOULD NOT become a man,
because He Declared that He is not a man and would not become a
man.
It is true that during the Old Testament period God hadnt become a man, but this
doesnt deny that God could choose to later become a man, specifically in the Person
of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Hebrew Bible itself supports the view that God can become a
man, without ceasing to be God, since there are places where God appeared in human form:
"The LORD appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was
sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. Abraham looked up and saw THREE
MEN standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to
meet them and bowed low to the ground. He said, If I have found favor in your eyes,
my lord, do not pass your servant by. Let a little water be brought, and then you may all
wash YOUR FEET and rest under this tree. Let me get you something to eat, so you
can be refreshed and then go on your way-now that you have come to your servant.
Very well, they answered, do as you say He then brought some
curds and milk and the calf that had been prepared, and set these before them. WHILE
THEY ATE, he stood near them under a tree. Where is your wife Sarah? they
asked him. There, in the tent, he said. THEN THE LORD SAID, I
will surely return to you about this time next year, and Sarah your wife will have a
son THEN THE LORD SAID TO ABRAHAM, Why did Sarah laugh and say,
"Will I really have a child, now that I am old?" Is anything too hard for the
LORD? I will return to you at the appointed time next year and Sarah will have a
son. Sarah was afraid, so she lied and said, I did not laugh. BUT HE
SAID, Yes, you did laugh. WHEN THE MEN GOT UP TO LEAVE, they looked
down toward Sodom, and Abraham walked along with them to see them on their way. THEN
THE LORD SAID, Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do? ... THEN
THE LORD SAID, The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin
so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry
that has reached me. If not, I will know. The men turned away and went toward Sodom,
BUT ABRAHAM REMAINED STANDING BEFORE THE LORD. Then Abraham APPROACHED HIM and
said: Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? What if there are fifty
righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare the place for
the sake of the fifty righteous people in it? Far be it from you to do such a thing - to
kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it
from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right? THE LORD SAID,
If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place
for their sake WHEN THE LORD HAD FINISHED SPEAKING WITH ABRAHAM, HE LEFT,
and Abraham returned home." Genesis 18:1-5, 8-10a, 13-17, 20-26, 33
"So Jacob was left alone, and A MAN wrestled with him till daybreak. When THE
MAN saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob's hip so that
his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with THE MAN. Then THE MAN said,
Let me go, for it is daybreak. But Jacob replied, I will not let you go
unless you bless me. THE MAN asked him, What is your name?
Jacob, he answered. Then THE MAN said, Your name will no longer
be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men and have
overcome. Jacob said, Please tell me your name. But he replied,
Why do you ask my name? Then he blessed him there. So Jacob called the
place Peniel, saying, It is because I SAW GOD FACE TO FACE, and yet my life was
spared." Genesis 32:24-30
"And above the expanse over their heads there was the likeness of a throne, in
appearance like sapphire; and seated above the likeness of a throne was a likeness with A
HUMAN APPEARANCE. And upward from what had the appearance of his waist I saw as it were
gleaming metal, like the appearance of fire enclosed all around. And downward from what
had the appearance of his waist I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and there was
brightness around him. Like the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud on the day of
rain, so was the appearance of the brightness all around. Such was the appearance of the
likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard the
voice of one speaking AND HE SAD TO ME, Son of man, stand on your feet, and I
will speak with you. And as he spoke to me, the Spirit entered into me and set me on
my feet, and I heard him speaking to me. And he said to me, Son of man, I send you
to the people of Israel, to nations of rebels, who have rebelled against me. They and
their fathers have transgressed against me to this very day. The descendants also are
impudent and stubborn: I send you to them, and you shall say to them, "Thus says the
Lord GOD." And whether they hear or refuse to hear (for they are a rebellious house)
they will know that a prophet has been among them. 6And you, son of man, be not
afraid of them, nor be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns are with you and
you sit on scorpions. Be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, for
they are a rebellious house. And you shall speak my words to them, whether they hear or
refuse to hear, for they are a rebellious house. But you, son of man, hear what I say to
you. Be not rebellious like that rebellious house; open your mouth and eat what I give
you. And when I looked, behold, a hand was stretched out to me, and behold, a scroll
of a book was in it. And he spread it before me. And it had writing on the front and on
the back, and there were written on it words of lamentation and mourning and
woe." Ezekiel 1:26-28, 2:1-10
My response:
Absolute lies and nonsense!
My response in this section will be divided into the following points:
The Hebrew text is clear it wasn't GOD Almighty, but rather, it
was an Angel who was speaking on His behalf.
CLEAR CUT Proofs from other verses that it was an Angel
and not GOD Almighty Himself!
The Roman Catholics believe that the Angel was
indeed Angel Gabriel, who is also well Praised in the Noble Quran as well as in the Bible!
- They believe
he was the one who buried Moses.
- They also believe he was the one who wrestled
with Jacob.
See the figurative speech in the Bible
proving that we must not take everything literally!
Point #1:
(According to the Hebrew, it was an Angel speaking on
behalf of GOD Almighty. He is Angel Gabriel according to Islam!)
If Sam Shamoun was indirectly trying to prove the trinity lie by presenting the number
3 in the three angels that appeared to Abraham, peace be upon him, as a sign for trinity,
then this only goes to prove his lack of intellect and integrity.
The following links clearly debunk the polytheist trinitarian pagans' lies in regards
to proving trinity using Genesis 18 & 19:
The author in the second link has put it best in the following paragraph in his detailed
and lengthy refutation: (green and red color emphasis are mine)
"This is the basic framework of the trinitarian argument.Based on this explanation, we can refute this
erroneous trinitarian teaching quite clearly and
readily.Heres
the beginning refutation:
In Genesis
18:9 the scripture describes the three men that ask Abraham where his wife is by using the
plural pronoun, they.
Genesis 18:9 Then they
said to him, "Where is Sarah your wife?And
he said, "Behold, in the tent."
In
Genesis 18:10 however, only ONE of the men speaks and promises Abraham he will return saying to Abraham, Iwill surely return
to you at this time next year
Genesis 18:10 And he said, "I will surely return to you at this time next year; and behold, Sarah your wife shall have a son." And Sarah was
listening at the tent door, which was behind him. NAS
There is a clear distinction between, they said, in Genesis 18:9 and,
he said, in Genesis 18:10.In 18:9 only two of the men ask Abraham where
Sarah is, but in 18:10, only one of the men says, I will return next
year.This distinction means this is
not the trinity in focus, otherwise the pronouns would not shift back and forth from
singular to plural.
BelowGenesis
18:13-14 are first mention of Yahweh and are a continuation of one man speaking apart from
the other two men.
Genesis 18:13-14 And the
LORD (Yahweh) said to Abraham, "Why did Sarah laugh, saying, 'Shall I
indeed bear a child, when I am so old?' 14 Is anything too difficult for the
LORD (Yahweh)? At the appointed time I will return to you, at this time
next year, and Sarah shall have a son." NAS
This is
Yahweh speaking to Abraham, and it is the angel (singular) of Yahweh, whom Abraham
recognized because prior in earlier chapters of Genesis
the angel of Yahweh appeared to Abrahams mistress and Sarahs maidservant in
Genesis 16:7, 9, 10, & 11 promising her she would
bear children.Later this same singular angel
of Yahweh came to Abraham to deliver Yahwehs messages to him in Genesis 22:11, 15
Genesis 22:11 But the angel of the LORD (Yahweh)
called to him from heaven, and said, "Abraham, Abraham!" And he said,
"Here I am." NAS
Genesis 22:15 Then the angel of the LORD (Yahweh)
called to Abrahama second time from heaven.NAS
Further
proof this is not the trinity involved is found in verse Genesis 18:14 where Yahweh speaks
to Abraham thru the angel (singular) of Yahweh using the singular pronoun, I,
NOT the plural pronoun, we.Yahweh
is mentioned and uses only SINGULAR pronouns for the remainder of chapter 18
Genesis 18:16-17 Then the men
rose up from there, and looked down toward Sodom; and Abraham was walking with them
to send them off. 17 And the LORD (Yahweh)
said, "Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do? NAS
Abraham escorts all three men on the way to Sodom; however only
two of the men actually go into Sodom; the other man (angel) speaks as
Yahweh, and he uses singular pronouns in Genesis 18: 17, And the LORD (Yahweh)
said, "Shall I
The other
two men that go down to Sodom are identified as,
angels, whereas one man stays with Abraham,
and speaks to him as, Yahweh.This
is concrete proof that only ONE man (angel) is speaking as Yahweh, and the other two are
merely angels sent to accompany the singular angel of Yahweh in their visit to and with
Abraham and his wife Sarah.
The role of
the two angels changes when they go to Sodom to rescue Abrahams nephew named Lot.They are being directed on a different mission as
agents acting directly on behalf of Yahweh to fulfil two purposes; first, to warn Lot and
rescue him and any of his family that pays heed to the warning, and secondly, to act on
behalf of and with the authority to use the power of Yahweh to destroy the cities of Sodom
and Gomorrah with brimstone and with fire.
Genesis 19:1-2 Now the two angels came to Sodom in
the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to
meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 And he said,
"Now behold, my lords (lords = PLURAL, not LORD singular), please turn aside
into your servant's house, and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise
early and go on your way." They said however, "No, but we shall
spend the night in the square." NAS
These two
angels were the same men that had earlier been with Abraham and Sarah; the
third man stayed with Abraham.These two angels come in the form of men,
evidenced by the fact that Lot wanted to wash their feet.Angels appearing in the form of men is not unheard of in scripture, because
angels appear as men in numerous places throughout both Old & New Testaments.
When Lot
greets these two angels, he addresses them by
using the PLURAL noun, and saying, My lords. Because Lots calls them by the plural, my lords, this proves
there is no such thing as the trinity in this context.The Hebrew noun (adonay) that Lot uses to call these angelic visitors,
lords, is the common plural form of the Hebrew title of respect.
Adonay does
not mean divinity; it is a general Hebrew word to address someone of dignity, or someone
as, master.For example, Sarah
called Abraham, my lord, in Genesis 18:12 using the same form of Hebrew word,
adon.Do you suppose trinitarian
dogma would identify Abraham as one member of the trinity, simply because his wife Sarah
called him, lord?Of course not,
but this shows the total absurdity of this false teaching.
Furthermore,
the fact that Lot addresses these two angelic messengers (sent in the form of men) as,
my lords, (plural), is absolute proof there is no mention of the trinity, because
the third person was not present with them, which by trinitarian standards reduces
their co-equality and their co-omnipresence to nothing.
Also, note
in Genesis 19:2 the two angels speak to answer Lot and they said, "No, but weshall
spend the night in the square."Because
they use a plural pronoun, we while speaking collectively, this is
irrefutable evidence that only two angels exist in Sodom, while the third angel who had
earlier spoken to Abraham for and on behalf of Jehovah (or Yahweh) is not with them.
The reason I
mention this is simply to point out that the three men or angels did not stay together,
which violates the fundamental doctrine of co-omnipresence taught by trinitarian doctrine.Furthermore, since one speaks as Yahweh, and they
other two remain silent as he speaks, this nullifies the trinitarian principle of
co-equality amongst the three persons of the triune Godhead.
The way this
can be proven is by looking at the Genesis 19:29, Thus it came about, when God
(Elohim) destroyed the cities of the valley, that God (Elohim) remembered Abraham, and
sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when He overthrew the cities in which Lot
lived.Trinitarianism teaches that the
Hebrew word, Elohim, means, a united one, and is used to represent
the three persons of the trinity eternally united and inseparable.Oops.Now
two of the angels split off and went to Sodom at the command of the angel of Yahweh that
stayed behind with Abraham, thereby nullifying the united three persons of the
trinity.
The third
angel, known throughout the OT as the angel of Yahweh is mentioned separately
and distinct from these two angels.The third
angel stayed behind to talk with Abraham; he IS referred to throughout the last half of
Genesis chapter 18 as, Yahweh. This point will be mentioned again when I
answer your question concerning the use of Yahweh in Genesis 19:24.The other two angels were
sent to rescue Lot and his family from the impending destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
So far I
have proven by simple breakdown of plural and singular nouns and pronouns that there is no
such thing as the trinity with its err of three co-equal, co-omnipresent persons of
God in the context of Genesis chapters 18-19.The three men that came to visit Abraham and his wife Sarah were two angels in the
form of men, and a third angel in the form of man, but with considerably greater
authority, who speaks for and on behalf of Yahweh, and is recognized as one and the same
as the, angel of Yahweh, throughout the OT.
This means
that during the initial meeting with Abraham and Sarah the other two men are angels sent
to accompany the angel of Yahweh to speak to Abraham.Perhaps this is so they can act as witnesses to the promise of Yahweh to
Sarah, that she would become pregnant and bear a son within the next year.Following the meeting with Abraham, one angel
stays with him, while the other two angels are then sent separately into Sodom to rescue
Abrahams nephew Lot and his family before the city was to be destroyed by Yahweh
THROUGH them (i.e. thru these two angel Yahweh destroys Sodom and Gomorrah)......"
He then goes on to refute Genesis 19:24, which
some hopeless trinitarians misuse to prove their trinity lie.
"I
dont know where they find any reason to identify more than one person of Yahweh in
Genesis 19:24; neither the English nor Hebrew text supports their argument, and there is no distinction by virtue of plural nouns or pronouns in
verse 24 to support such an interpretation.So
the best way to decipher any argument is to begin with context.
..............
Read the context of Genesis
19:12-29 below, and then pay close attention to the following:
Plural or
singular nouns (e.g. men versus man or angel
versus angels OR angels versus the LORD) and pronouns
(e.g. I, he, him versus we, us, they, them)
Ask
yourself, who is speaking & to whom OR who is acting on behalf of whom? I have
highlighted in red some of the key pronouns for your consideration:
Genesis 19:12-29 Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else
have you here?A son-in-law, and your sons,
and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring them out of the place; 13for we are about to
destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before the LORD (Yahweh) that the LORD (Yahweh) has sent us to destroy it. "14 And Lot
went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were to marry his daughters, and said,
"Up, get out of this place, for the LORD (Yahweh) will destroy the city." But he
appeared to his sons-in-law to be jesting. 15 And when morning dawned, the angels
urged Lot, saying, "Up, take your wife and your two daughters, who are here, lest you
be swept away in the punishment of the city." 16 But he hesitated. So the men
seized his hand and the hand of his wife and the hands of his two daughters, for the
compassion of the LORD (Yahweh) was upon him; and they brought him out, and put him
outside the city. 17 And it came about when they had brought them outside, that one
said, "Escape for your life!Do not
look behind you, and do not stay anywhere in the valley; escape to the mountains, lest you
be swept away." 18 But Lot said to them, "Oh no, my lords! 19
"Now behold, your servant has found favor in your sight, and you have magnified your
lovingkindness, which you have shown me by saving my life; but I cannot escape to the
mountains, lest the disaster overtake me and I die; 20 now behold, this town is
near enough to flee to, and it is small. Please, let me escape there (is it not small?)
that my life may be saved. "21
And he said to him, "Behold, I grant
you this request also, not to overthrow the town of which you have spoken.22 Hurry, escape there, for I cannot do anything until you
arrive there." Therefore the name of the town was called Zoar. 23 The sun had
risen over the earth when Lot came to Zoar. 24 Then the LORD (Yahweh) rained
on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD (Yahweh) out of heaven, 25
and He overthrew those cities, and all the valley, and all the inhabitants of the
cities, and what grew on the ground. 26 But his wife, from behind him, looked back;
and she became a pillar of salt. 27 Now Abraham arose early in the morning and went
to the place where he had stood before the LORD (Yahweh); 28 and he looked
down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the valley, and he saw, and
behold, the smoke of the land ascended like the smoke of a furnace. 29Thus it came about, when God (Elohim) destroyed the cities of
the valley, that God (Elohim) remembered Abraham,
and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when He overthrew the cities in which Lot
lived. NAS
I think
youll find the answers to your questions self-explanatory if you carefully segment
all the words highlighted in red.Heres
some simple refutations that easily and logically dispel the trinity myth:
Refutation #1: In verses
12 & 13 the men said to Lot we are about to destroy this
place, because the LORD (Yahweh) has sent us to destroy it. "Recall now that
the third angel who stayed behind with Abraham was the angel of Yahweh.He is the spokesman for Yahweh to whom these two angels refer when they spoke to Lot saying to him,
the LORD (Yahweh) has sent us to destroy it. "This is answer enough to eliminate every
trinitarian argument in the entire chapter of Genesis 19!
What
proves these two angels who came in the form of men are Yahwehs representatives is
how they act on behalf of Yahwehs command when granting Lots request.In verse 16 Lot has
second thoughts and he hesitates, so to save him the men (i.e. - the two angels) seize
Lots hand and the hand of his wife and the hands of his two daughters.
As the
angels take his family by the hand, and lead them outside of the city, this act of
deliverance is described in the last half of verse 16 saying, for the
compassion of the LORD (Yahweh) was upon him (Lot); and they brought him out, and put him
outside the city.
Here we see
that Yahwehs compassion is demonstrated thru the actions of these two
angels disguised as men; keep in mind however, that these two
angels are sent by Yahweh, so therefore the
reference to the compassion of Yahweh, is redirected to the third angel that
stayed with Abraham, because he is the auditory spokesman for Yahweh (i.e. he
speaks directly for Yahweh).
This shows
how scripture sometimes uses the actions of others to describe the compassion of Yahweh,
but it certainly does not prove there are more than one person of God in a triune Godhead,
as purported by trinitarian dogma.
Refutation #2: In verse 17
it reads, And it came about when they (the 2 angels) had brought them
(Lots family) outside (of Sodom), that one said, (meaning one of the angels)
"Escape for your life!Do not look
behind you, and do not stay anywhere in the valley; escape to the mountains, lest you be
swept away." Since they are now outside of the city,
the one speaking is the angel of Yahweh, who is the third angel that had remained outside of the cities, as he
stayed behind with Abraham.
Even though
only one of the angels speaks to Lot, in a typical display of Middle Eastern cultural
respect, Lot responds to the one speaking by addressing ALL three of the angels in verse 18
by calling to them, "Oh no, my lords!
Safe
temporarily outside of Sodom and now in the presence of all three angels, Lot goes on to
plead with them in verses 19 & 20, to let him retreat to a smaller city nearby
saying, "Now behold, your servant has found favor in your sight, and you have
magnified your lovingkindness, which you have shown me by saving my life
This leads
to my point in verse 21, which reads, And he (he meaning Yahweh) said
to him (Lot), "Behold, I (Yahweh) grant you this request Recall earlier that only ONE angel spoke.The context does
not say which of the three angels is speaking for and on behalf of Yahweh, but the fact is, only one speaks, and earlier this was the angel of
Yahweh, so the logical conclusion is that it is the original angel of Yahweh speaking
again.
Because only
one angel speaks, and the other two angels said they had been sent by Yahweh
to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, the principle of co-equality in the triune
Godhead is ruined by this fact, because only one of the two angels speaks, and the fact remains the other two personages are subservient to him,
not co-equal.
Therefore,
any alluding to Yahweh twice in verse 24 is simply the two angels alternately
working on behalf and directly for Yahweh, who sent them with power to destroy the cities
with brimstone and fire.So simple even a
child could figure it out.
One last
note about verses 13-14 when Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law.In verse 13 the two angels told Lot,
for we are about to destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before
the LORD (Yahweh) that the LORD (Yahweh) has sent us to destroy it. "In verse 14 Lot went out and spoke to his
sons-in-law, who were to marry his daughters, and said, "Up, get out of this place,
for the LORD (Yahweh) will destroy the city."As far as Lot knew, there were only two angels involved, since he had
not met the third one as the angel of Yahweh yet.
The fact
then that Lot refers to these two angels of destruction and deliverance collectively as,
Yahweh, blows the three-in-one trinity argument out of the water!If the trinitarian dogma says this is proof for
more than one person of Yahweh in the context, then the blessed three has been reduced to
a mere two, and instead of a trinity, we now have a twinity!"
Point #2:
(CLEAR CUT Proofs from other verses that it was an Angel
and not GOD Almighty Himself!)
The claim of the polytheist trinitarian pagans regarding GOD Almighty appearing in a
form of a man is quite absurd, false, and again is in clear contradiction with Numbers 23:19, 1 Samuel 15:29,
Hosea 11:9, Job 25:4-6 and
Malachi 3:6 above.
Again, Malachi 3:6 clearly says: "For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore
ye sons of Jacob are not consumed." GOD Almighty does not change, and He therefore, would not become a man
because He Declared that He is not a man.
Here are verses from the Bible that will clearly debunk Sam Shamoun's absurdity:
No one has seen GOD Almighty!
Exodus 3
4 When the LORD saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him
from within the bush, "Moses! Moses!"
And Moses said, "Here I am."
5 "Do not come any closer," God said. "Take off your
sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground."
6 Then he said, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac
and the God of Jacob." At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at
God.
Judges 13
21 When the angel of the LORD did not
show himself again to Manoah and his wife, Manoah realized that it was the angel of the
LORD .
22 "We are doomed to die!" he said to his wife. "We
have seen God!"
23 But his wife answered, "If the LORD had meant to kill us, he would not have
accepted a burnt offering and grain offering from our hands, nor shown us all these things
or now told us this."
Here they thought that they saw the face of GOD Almighty
when they only saw His Angel. Notice how they were scared that they were going to be
doomed.
1 John 4
11 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love
one another.
12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and
his love is made complete in us.
13 We know that we live in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit.
But did Moses know GOD Almighty face to face and did GOD bury him when he
died?
Deuteronomy 34
5 And Moses the servant of the LORD died there in Moab, as the LORD had said.
6 He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to
this day no one knows where his grave is.
7 Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died, yet his eyes were not weak nor
his strength gone.
8 The Israelites grieved for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days, until the time of
weeping and mourning was over.
9 Now Joshua son of Nun was filled with the spirit of wisdom because Moses had laid his
hands on him. So the Israelites listened to him and did what the LORD had commanded Moses.
10 Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD knew
face to face,
11 who did all those miraculous signs and wonders the LORD sent him to do in Egyptto
Pharaoh and to all his officials and to his whole land.
12 For no one has ever shown the mighty power or performed the awesome deeds that Moses
did in the sight of all Israel.
As we clearly saw above, Moses never knew GOD Almighty face to face on the literal sense.
No one has ever seen GOD Almighty or the Face of GOD Almighty.
So now here is the challenge to Sam Shamoun:
1- Who buried
Moses, peace be upon him? Certainly, the Roman Catholics in the section below think
Gabriel did.
2- Using your
absurd logic above about taking things literally, explain to us the contradiction between
Deuteronomy 34:10 and Exodus 3:4-6, Judges 13:21-23, and 1 John 4:11-13 above. Did Moses see GOD Almighty or not?
3- Also, why should we take your point literally when Judges 13:21-23 clearly refutes it?
People back then thought they saw GOD Almighty, when in reality they only saw an Angel,
most probably the Angel Gabriel, peace be upon him. Anyway, the Bible is a
rewrite. It's not original.Anything
and everything in it is quite doubtful according to its own theologians and historians.
Point #3:
(The Roman Catholics believe that the Angel was
indeed Angel Gabriel, who is also well Praised in the Noble Quran!)
In the following treatise from the Roman Catholic theologians, we see the following:
1-
Angel Gabriel is the King of Angels.
2-
His Name means "The Power of GOD".
3-
He was the one who buried Moses,
peace be upon him.
"Fortitudo Dei", one of the three archangels mentioned in the Bible. Only
four appearances of Gabriel are recorded:
In Dan., viii, he explains the vision of the horned ram as portending the destruction of
the Persian Empire by the Macedonian Alexander the Great, after whose death the kingdom
will be divided up among his generals, from one of whom will spring Antiochus Epiphanes.
In chapter ix, after Daniel had prayed for Israel, we read that
"the man Gabriel . . . . flying
swiftly touched me" and he communicated to him the mysterious prophecy of the
"seventy weeks" of years which should elapse before the coming of Christ. In
chapter x, it is not clear whether the angel is Gabriel or
not, but at any rate we may apply to him the marvellous description in verses 5 and 6.
In N.T. he foretells to Zachary the birth of the Precursor, and
Thus he is throughout the angel of the Incarnation and of Consolation, and so in Christian tradition
Gabriel is ever the angel
of mercy while Michael is rather the angel of judgment. At the same time, even in the Bible, Gabriel
is, in accordance with his name, the angel of the Power of God, and it is worth
while noting the frequency with which such words as "great", "might",
"power", and "strength" occur in the passages referred to above.
The Jews indeed seem to have dwelt particularly upon this feature in Gabriel's character,
and he is regarded by them as the angel of judgment, while Michael is called the angel of mercy. Thus
they attribute to Gabriel the destruction of Sodom and of the
host of Sennacherib, though they also regard him as the angel who buried Moses, and as the man deputed to mark the
figure Tau on the foreheads of the elect (Ezech., 4). In later Jewish literature the names
of angels were
considered to have a peculiar efficacy, and the British Museum possesses some magic bowls
inscribed with Hebrew, Aramaic, and Syriac incantations in which the names of Michael,
Raphael, and Gabriel occur. These bowls were found at Hillah, the site of Babylon, and
constitute an interesting relic of the Jewish captivity. In
apocryphal Christian
literature the same names occur, cf. Enoch, ix, and the Apocalypse of the Blessed Virgin.
As remarked above, Gabriel is mentioned only twice in the New Testament, but it is not
unreasonable to suppose with Christian tradition that it is he who appeared to St. Joseph and to
the shepherds, and also that it was he who "strengthened" Our Lord in the garden (cf. the Hymn
for Lauds on 24 March). Gabriel is generally termed only an archangel, but the expression
used by St. Raphael, "I am the angel Raphael, one of the seven, who stand before the Lord"
(Tob., xii, 15) and St. Gabriel's own words, "I am Gabriel, who stand
before God"
(Luke 1, 19), have led some to think that these angels must belong
to the highest rank; but this is generally explained as referring to their rank as the
highest of God's
messengers, and not as placing them among the Seraphim and Cherubim (cf. St.
Thomas, I, Q. cxii, a.3; III, Q. xxx, a.2, ad 4um).
In addition to the literature under ANGEL and in the
biblical dictionaries, see PUSEY, The Prophet Daniel (London, 1868); EDERSHEIM, Jesus
the Messiah (London and New York, 1890), Append. XIII; H. CROSBY, Michael and
Gabriel in Homiletic Review (1890), XIX, 160-162; BARDENHEWER, Mariä-Verkündigung
in Bibl. Studien, X, 496 sqq.
But these glimpses of life beyond the veil are only occasional. The angels of the Bible generally
appear in the role of God's
messengers to mankind. They are His instruments by whom He communicates His will to men,
and in Jacob's vision they are depicted as ascending and descending the ladder which
stretches from earth to heaven while the Eternal Father gazes
upon the wanderer below. It was an angel who found Agar
(Hagar) in the wilderness (Gen., xvi); angels drew Lot out of Sodom;
an angel announces to Gideon that he is to save his people; an angel foretells the birth
of Samson (Judges, xiii), and the angel Gabriel instructs
Daniel (Dan., viii, 16), though he is not called an angel in either of these passages,
but "the man Gabriel" (9:21). The same heavenly
spirit announced the birth of St. John the Baptist and the Incarnation of the
Redeemer, while tradition ascribes to him both the message to the shepherds (Luke, ii,
9), and the most glorious mission of all, that of strengthening the King of Angels in
His Agony (Luke
22:43). The spiritual nature of the angels is manifested very clearly in the
account which Zacharias gives of the revelations bestowed upon him by the ministry of an
angel. The prophet depicts the angel as speaking "in him". He seems to imply
that he was conscious of an interior voice which was not that of God but of His
messenger. The Massoretic
text, the Septuagint,
and the Vulgate
all agree in thus describing the communications made by the angel to the prophet. It is
a pity that the "Revised Version" should, in apparent defiance of the
above-named texts, obscure this trait by persistently giving the rendering: "the
angel that talked with me: instead of "within me" (cf. Zach., i, 9, 13, 14; ii,
3; iv, 5; v, 10).
Such appearances of angels generally last only so long as the delivery of their message
requires, but frequently their mission is prolonged, and they are represented as the
constituted guardians
of the nations at some particular crisis, e.g. during the Exodus (Exod., xiv, 19; Baruch,
vi, 6). Similarly it is the common view of the Fathers that by
"the prince of the Kingdom of the Persians" (Dan., x, 13; x, 21) we are to
understand the angel to whom was entrusted the spiritual care of that kingdom, and
we may perhaps see in the "man of Macedonia" who appeared to St. Paul at Troas,
the guardian angel
of that country (Acts. xvi, 9). The Septuagint (Deut.,
xxxii, 8), has preserved for us a fragment of information on this head, though it is
difficult to gauge its exact meaning: "When the Most High divided
the nations, when He scattered the children of Adam, He established the bounds of the
nations according to the number of the angels of God". How large
a part the ministry of angels played, not merely in Hebrew theology, but in the religious
ideas of other nations as well, appears from the expression "like to an angel of God". It is
three times used of David (II K., xiv, 17, 20; xiv, 27) and once by Achis of Geth (I K.,
xxlx, 9). It is even applied by Esther to Assuerus (Esther, xv, 16), and St. Stephen's
face is said to have looked "like the face of an angel" as he stood before the Sanhedrin (Acts, vi,
15).
3. Ye that are well instructed in the school of Christ, know that this Jacob is Israel
too. They are two names; for they are one man. His first name Jacob, which is by
interpretation supplanter, he received when he was born. For when those twins were born,
his brother Esau was born first; and the hand of the younger was found on the elder's
foot. He held his brother's foot who preceded him in his birth, and himself came after And
because of this occurrence, because he held his brother's heel, he was called Jacob, that
is, Supplanter. And afterwards, when he was returning
from Mesopotamia, the Angel wrestled with him in the way. What
comparison can there. be between an Angel's and a man's strength? Therefore it is a
mystery, a sacrament, a prophecy, a figure; let us therefore understand it. For consider
the manner of the struggle too.While he wrestleth, Jacob
prevailed against the Angel.....
Note: They then go into the nonsense of
claiming that this incident introduced Jesus. A claim that is not supported anywhere
in the Unitarian Beliefs, because Jesus is a Creation of GOD Almighty and His Messenger.
He is not an Angel.
Let us go back to the origin of our fall, and see that most truly is it sung in the
Psalm, "Before I was troubled I went wrong." But he who says, "Before I was
troubled I went wrong," saith also, "It is good for me that Thou hast humbled
me, that I may learn Thy Righteousnesses." These
righteousnesses Jacob learnt from God, who made him to wrestle with an Angel; under the
guise of which Angel, God Himself wrestled with him He held Him, he exerted violence to
hold Him he prevailed to hold Him: He caused Himself to be held, in
mercy, not in weakness. Jacob therefore wrestled, and prevailed: he held Him and when he
seemed to have conquered Him asked to be blessed of Him? How did he understand with Whom
he had wrestled, Whom he had held? Wherefore did he wrestle violently, and hold Him?
Because "the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by
force." Wherefore then did he wrestle? Because it is with toil. Wherefore do we with
difficulty hold, what we so easily lose? Lest, easily getting back what we have lost, we
learn to lose that which we hold. Let man have toil to hold: he will hold firmly, what he
has only held after toil. These His judgments therefore God manifested to Jacob and Israel
. . . .
Point #4:
(See the figurative speech in the Bible proving
that we must not take everything literally!)
Luke 11
2 He said to them, "When you pray, say: " 'Father,
hallowed be your name, your kingdom come.
3 Give us each day our daily bread.
4 Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And
lead us not into temptation.' "
5 Then he said to them, "Suppose one of you has a friend, and he goes to him at
midnight and says, 'Friend, lend me three loaves of bread,
YET, GOD ALMIGHTY DOESN'T TEMPT:
James 1
13When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting
me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;
14but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.
15Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full
-grown, gives birth to death.
Luke 11:2-5 and James 1:13-15 above, clearly prove that GOD
Almighty does allow satan to tempt, not only us but also His Prophets.
GOD Almighty's Hand:
1 Samuel 5 9 But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was
against that city, throwing it into a great panic. He afflicted the people of
the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.
10 So they sent the ark of God to Ekron. As the ark of God was entering Ekron, the people
of Ekron cried out, "They have brought the ark of the god of Israel around to us to
kill us and our people."
11 So they called together all the rulers of the Philistines and said, "Send the ark
of the god of Israel away; let it go back to its own place, or it will kill us and our
people." For death had filled the city with panic; God's hand was very heavy upon it.
The verses obviously are not talking about GOD Almighty's physical Arm, Hand and
Fingers.
They figuratively saw GOD Almighty:
"Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the
seventy elders of Israel went up and saw the God of Israel. Under his feet
was something like a pavement made of sapphire, clear as the sky itself. But God did not
raise his hand against these leaders of the Israelites; they saw God, and they ate and
drank. (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 24:9-11)"
"Jacob said, "Please tell me your name." But
he replied, "Why do you ask my name?" Then he blessed him there. So Jacob called
the place Peniel, saying, "It is because I saw God face to face, and yet
my life was spared." The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel,
and he was limping because of his hip. (From the NIV
Bible, Genesis 32:29-31)"
"But Esau said, "I already have plenty, my brother.
Keep what you have for yourself." "No, please!" said Jacob. "If
I have found favor in your eyes, accept this gift from me. For to see your face
is like seeing the face of God, now that you have received me favorably.
Please accept the present that was brought to you, for God has been gracious to me and I
have all I need." And because Jacob insisted, Esau accepted it. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 33:9-11)"
GOD Almighty figuratively hid His Face from them:
Deuteronomy 31
16 And the LORD said to Moses: "You are going to rest with your
fathers, and these people will soon prostitute themselves to the foreign gods of the land
they are entering. They will forsake me and break the covenant I made with them.
17 On that day I will become angry with them and forsake them; I will hide my
face from them, and they will be destroyed. Many disasters and difficulties
will come upon them, and on that day they will ask, 'Have not these disasters come upon us
because our God is not with us?'
18 And I will certainly hide my face on that day because of all their wickedness in
turning to other gods.
Psalm 27
8 My heart says of you, "Seek his face!" Your
face, LORD , I will seek.
9 Do not hide your face from me, do not turn your servant away in
anger; you have been my helper. Do not reject me or forsake me, O God my Savior.
10 Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me.
Psalm 80
2 before Ephraim, Benjamin and Manasseh. Awaken your might;
come and save us.
3 Restore us, O God; make your face shine upon us, that we may be
saved.
4 O LORD God Almighty, how long will your anger smolder against the prayers of your
people?
Isaiah 59
1 Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, nor
his ear too dull to hear.
2 But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden
his face from you, so that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are stained with blood, your fingers with guilt. Your lips have spoken
lies, and your tongue mutters wicked things.
But in reality and actuality, no one has seen GOD Almighty, because
they would then die:
Exodus 3
4 When the LORD saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him
from within the bush, "Moses! Moses!"
And Moses said, "Here I am."
5 "Do not come any closer," God said. "Take off your
sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground."
6 Then he said, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac
and the God of Jacob." At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at
God.
Judges 13
21 When the angel of the LORD did not show himself again to
Manoah and his wife, Manoah realized that it was the angel of the LORD .
22 "We are doomed to die!" he said to his wife. "We have
seen God!"
23 But his wife answered, "If the LORD had meant to kill us, he would not have
accepted a burnt offering and grain offering from our hands, nor shown us all these things
or now told us this."
1 John 4
11 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love
one another.
12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and
his love is made complete in us.
13 We know that we live in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit.
Jehovah or Yahweh Almighty was the One and Only LORD! The
"God" title was distorted in the Bible. Even satan was called
"God":
2 Corinthians 4
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are
perishing.
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so
that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of
God.
Only Yahweh (Jehovah in English) is not figurative. Exactly like no one has ever
seen GOD Almighty's Face exactly like Moses is also not figurative.
Can anyone really move a mountain with his eyes?
" Jesus replied, 'I tell you the truth, if you have faith
and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say
to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done.
If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.' (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 21:21)"
Can anyone really survive a poisonous snake's venom without treatment?
"And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my
name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes
with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at
all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.
(From the NIV Bible, Mark 16:17-18)"
He wrote:
The Hebrew Bible even predicts that the Messiah of David is actually God in the flesh:
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the
government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty
God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and of
peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it
and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore.
The zeal of the LORD of hosts will do this." Isaiah 9:6-7
Here, the Messiah is a child who is born, showing that he is truly human, while also
being the Mighty God at the same time.
"Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will raise up for David a
righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice
and righteousness in the land. In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell
securely. And this is the name by which he will be called: Yahweh is our
righteousness." Jeremiah 23:5-6
The Messiah is Davids Branch, implying that he is a human descendant of David,
while also being Yahweh our righteousness. These texts clearly indicate that God will
become man in the Person of the Messiah, whom the NT says is the Lord Jesus!
My response:
Again, absolute nonsense!
It is important for the reader to know that "the LORD" or "Yahweh"
or "Jehovah" is GOD Almighty's Unique
title in the Bible! No one was ever given this title along with Him.
Many GODLY names were given to people in the Bible to symbolize their importance in
society and their obedience and love to GOD Almighty. Also,
the "El" (God) title was given to all of the Believers in the Bible! So
Jesus being called "El" does not make him Yahweh!
Also, Jerusalem was called "The LORD our Righteousness". So this title
being given to the Messiah is, again, no proof.
I have written a detailed rebuttal to Shamoun's nonsense regarding this topic and
demonstrated and showed that these names that were given to Jesus were absolutely not unique!
Note:Notice in point #8 below, everyone was called "El". Also in point
#1, Jerusalem was called "The
LORD is our Righteousness".
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Many people in the Jewish old culture were called "God" before Jesus'
existence on earth. The following translations were verified by http://bible.crosswalk.com
and the Jewish
Sabbath Temple:
Note: Some of the words have
different translations in the http://bible.crosswalk.com
site than in the Jewish
Sabbath Temple translation. I trust the Jewish Sabbath Temple
translation, because they speak far better and more accurate Hebrew than the Bible
Crosswalk site who are Christians and are desperate to prove the trinity dogma even if it
means giving inaccurate and wrong/false translations:
Important Note: The "Yahweh" in many Hebrew names is shortened
because it apparently makes the name much easier to pronounce since it is used often.
It is very similar to our shortened names today such as:
1- Michael shortened for Mike.
2- Samuel shortened for Sam.
1- Jerusalem was called "The LORD our
Righteousness". "In those days Judah
will be saved and Jerusalem will live in safety. This is the name by which it
will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness (Yahweh tsidkenû).' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 33:16)"
2- Abraham
called a mountain "The LORD will Provide" (Yahweh Jireh).
"So Abraham called that place The LORD Will Provide
(Yahweh Jireh). And to this day it is said, "On the mountain of the LORD
it will be provided. (From the NIV Bible,
Genesis 22:14)"
3- Ezekiel means "Strong God". It also means "Yahweh is Strong
God".
4- Elijah. This name is short for EliJehovah or
"Eli Yahweh". Eli means my GOD, and Yahweh is the name and
title of GOD Almighty in the Bible. Does "Eli Yahweh" or Elijah mean that
the person is Jehovah Himself?
5- Israel means "Challenge God", "he struggles with God", or
"fight with God". It also means "Defeat God".
6- Gabriel also means "Strong God".
7- Isaiah or Jesaiah, which is short for "Jesa Yahweh" means
"Salvation from Yahweh". It could also mean "Salvation".
8- Joshua, which is short for "Josh Yahweh" means
"Yahweh Saves".
9- Elli, which is a common name for men before and after Jesus, means "God".
Psalm 82:6 "I
said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' "
"gods" here in Hebrew is "Elohim", which is plural of "EL". It is the same exact thing as "EL" used for Jesus in
Isaiah 9:6, since "gods" is a combination of several "EL"s. And
as clearly shown here, for someone to be called "god" or "God" in the
Bible it wouldn't make him GOD Almighty Himself, the LORD or Jehovah.I also want to point out that ANY "Son of GOD" in the
Bible is a "god" or "God" as clearly shown in Psalm
82:6.
Note: The trinitarian liars
who translate the Bible into English play dirty tricks about capitalizing and lowering the
"g" in "God" to prove their trinity lie, while they fully know that it
is the same word used for ALL!
10- Immanuel, Emanuel, Emmanuel, Immanuel, or Imanuel are the SAME NAME
and are another name for Jesus, means "With us is God". This name is also
common for men before and after Jesus.
11- Elihu means "My God is He".
12- Gedaliah means "Jehovah is Great".
Again, Gedaliah is short for "Gedal Yahweh". Is the person who was called "Jehovah is Great" GOD
Almighty Himself? People before and after Jesus are given this
name. See 2 Kings 25:22-24.
13- Eliadah or Eliada means "God knows".
14- Eliab means "my God is Father".
15- Elzaphan means "God is Protector"
16- Eliakim means "God raises".
17- Elisha means "God is Salvation".
18- Eleazar means "God has helped"
19- Judah or Yahawdah means "Praised". It generally means "Praised
by Yahweh".
20- Hashabiah means "Jehovah has considered".
21- Mattithiah means "Gift of Jehovah".
22- Michael (nick name "Mike") means "who
is like God". Yet, non is like Him, the Almighty. See
Exodus 8:10.
23- Jesus, Yahshua, Yeshua or Yashua are the SAME NAME, and
mean "Salvation". It doesn't mean "God Saves" as Christians
claim. Jesus (Yeshua) means in Hebrew "salvation" and not "God
saves". Yud Shin Waw Ain - this name doesn't include the word "God".
Joshua (Yehoshya) - Yod Hey - Waw Shin Ain
Isaya (Yeshayah) - Yod Shin Ain - Yod Hey .
These two names are combination of Yod, Shin, Ain - salvation and Yod, Hey - Yahwe.
Yosh Hey (Yah) is common short from Yahwe, for example Alleluia comes from "Halelu
Yah" - "Glorify Yahwe".
For more details and proofs, please visit the article.
See also in the article how "ho theos"
was given to both Jesus and satan (as
the god of this world) in the NT.
Nothing that was given to
Jesus in the Bible was unique!
Even his Miracles were not unique! They did all happen
in the OT.
So for the polytheist trinitarian pagans of the English translation to say that GOD
Almighty is a "man" of war is
obviously a deliberate lie!
He wrote:
Other places where God is called a man of war include:
"The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like
a man of war (ish milhamah): he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his
enemies." Isaiah 42:13 KJV
The foregoing demonstrates that in some ways God and man are alike, i.e. both God and
man have a warrior spirit. Yet in other respects God is completely unlike man, namely that
God is perfectly holy and consistent whereas man is not.
Thus, passages such as Numbers 23:19 do not rule out the possibility of God appearing
as a man and/or becoming a man. It simply states that God's essence is distinct from man,
without denying the fact that God could/would eventually take on a human nature. In
reality, these texts simply illustrate that God is not a man by nature and
doesnt therefore lie or change his mind like men normally do.
My response:
Again, absolute nonsense!
The Bible declares that GOD Almighty is not a man! Man is a sinner and is, in
many ways, evil! While GOD Almighty can certainly bring Himself in any form He
Wishes, but He certainly Declared that He would never become a man:
Numbers 23:19 God
is not a man, that he should lie. He is not a human, that he should change his mind.
Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through?
1 Samuel 15:29 And he who is
the Glory of Israel will not lie, nor will he change his mind, for he is not
human that he should change his mind!"
Hosea 11:9 No, I will not
punish you as much as my burning anger tells me to. I will not completely destroy Israel, for
I am God and not a mere mortal. I am the Holy One living among you, and I
will not come to destroy.
Job 25:4-6
4 How then can man be justified with God? or how
can he be clean that is born of a woman?
5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.
6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?
GOD Almighty clearly declared that He would never become a man!
And GOD Almighty Declared
that He would not Change! (Malachi 3:6)
He wrote:
What this basically means is that if God chose to become a man then he wouldnt be
like other men he would be completely pure and holy.
My response:
Absolute nonsense!
GOD Almighty clearly declared that He wouldn't become a man; that would be a degradation to Him. All Praise due
to Him.
He wrote:
And since God did become man in Christ we find that this is exactly the kind of person
Jesus was, namely absolutely pure and sinless:
"What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I
know who you are--the Holy One of God." Mark 1:24
"Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of
eternal life, and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One
of God." John 6:68-69
"The one who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory, but the one who
seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and in him there is no falsehood."
John 7:18
"And he who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone, for I always do
the things that are pleasing to himWhich one of you convicts me of
sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me?" John 8:29, 46
"I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He
has no claim on me," John 14:30
"But you denied the Holy and Righteous One, and asked for a murderer
to be granted to you, and you killed the Author of life, whom God raised from the dead. To
this we are witnesses." Acts 3:14-15
"For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him
we might become the righteousness of God." 2 Corinthians 5:21
"For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses,
but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin."
Hebrews 4:15
"For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy,
innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens."
Hebrews 7:26
"how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered
himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to
serve the living God." Hebrews 9:14
"knowing that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your
forefathers, not with perishable things such as silver or gold, but with the precious
blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot." 1 Peter
1:18-19
"He committed no sin, neither was deceit found in his mouth." 1 Peter 2:22
"For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the
unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but
made alive in the spirit," 1 Peter 3:18
"My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But
if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous."
1 John 2:1
"And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure
You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin."
1 John 3:3, 5
To conclude, Christians believe that God wasn't always a man, but later became man at
the Incarnation. The eternal Word of God took on a real human nature, while still
remaining fully God in essence.
Mark 10:18
""Why do you call me
good ἀγαθόν?"
Jesus answered. "No
one is good--except
God alone."
Good = agathon
ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς
https://biblehub.com/lexicon/mark/10-18.htm
Agat
is the root word. Did it mean Divine
or Supreme or Almighty in Greek 2,000 years
ago?
Why
reject it on himself?
Why
was Jesus offended by it? Why did he
refuse to call himself Agat or Agathon?
Now of course,
Greek is not even the language
Jesus spoke, but even in this Greek, why is
it forbidden for Jesus to be Agat?
The
Ancient Greek word
Ἀγαθόν [Agathón=good, benevolent,
kind] refers to an aggregate of concepts
encompassing all moral, intellectual and
spiritual virtues of man. It must be thought
of as an absolute state, with an existence
which is independent and unaffected by time,
space or any other change.
Only The Supreme Deity, The
Unified Being, The Monad, can be
characterized by the term Ἀγαθός
......
Plato, in his Republic, gives us a
definition of the term Ἀγαθόν:
[508e] «This reality, then, that gives their
truth to the objects of knowledge and the
power of knowing to the knower, you must say
is the idea of Ἀγαθόν, and you must
conceive it as being
the cause of knowledge*,
and the cause of truth in so far as they
become known.
Yet, fair as they both are (knowledge and
truth), you will think rightly in supposing
Ἀγαθόν to be something different and fairer
still than these.
But as for knowledge and truth, even as in
our illustration [509a] it is right to deem
light and vision as being sun like, but
never to think that they are the sun, so
here, it is right to consider these two
(knowledge and truth) as being like Ἀγαθόν
but to think that
either of them is Ἀγαθόν, is not right.»
Contrary to those who see the phrase as a
reference to the Trinity, Vermigli believes
that τἀγαθόν refers to the
“good itself” or the common good,
which is the common form of the many
naturally desired goods. A horse seeks after
its own good, a dog its own good, and a
human aims at its own good,
but all things
seek the good in general. If
all things aimed at
God or the supreme good
there would be no natural end or reason for
which each species was created, as if nature
does not aim at its own preservation and
perfection. Vermigli recounts the
interpretation of Leonardo Aretino (a.k.a
Bruni; d. 1444) and George of Trabizond (d.
1486), who were led by the Greek article
preceding the noun to interpret the phrase
as a reference to the Trinity. Instead,
Vermigli follows the exegesis of Johannes
Cardinal Bessarion (d. 1472). “Bessarion,
Nicene cardinal and the most learned man
among the Greeks of the modern era, refuted
this opinion, saying that Trapezuntius [Trabizond]
should have been aware that in Greek when an
article precedes a word it has a triple
function.” (ibid, 22, 23) Vermigli then
adopts as his own the translation of the
humanist Johannes Argyropoulos (d. 1487) who
rendered
τἀγαθόν as “the good itself.”
(ibid)
Trinity is a Lie:
Both the Noble Quran and the Bible claim that GOD Almighty is
an Absolute One and only One:
"Say:
He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal,
Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He
begotten; And there is none like unto Him. (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"
"Hear,
O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
(Deuteronomy 6:4)"
"The
most important one," answered Jesus,
"is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God,
the
Lord is one. (Mark 12:29)"
Notice also how Jesus said
"our
God", which included him to be under GOD Almighty's
creation and Divine Authority, and not someone or an entity that is
equal to GOD Almighty. Jesus in all of the verses above clearly forbade
anyone to call him:
1-
Supreme.
2- One with Divine Will and Power.
3- The Creator.
4- GOD Almighty.
5- In other verses, Jesus also said
that if he were to bear witness on himself,
he would be a liar!
Jesus clearly gave
exclusivity to GOD Almighty when he said
"alone".
The
following articles give 100s of verses and
proofs about trinity being false:
1-
Trinity Crucified!
100s of verses prove trinity is false.
Jesus
healed others only after getting
permissions from GOD Almighty. His
wishes were sometimes
denied.[2]
"Show me in the Bible where Jesus said he was not GOD!"
I sometimes get asked by trinitarians to show them where Jesus said that he WAS NOT GOD
Almighty in the Bible. Ironically, it is like having this scenario:
Q. Show me where John Doe said that he was not the
President of the United States! Show me the quote now!!
A. He just said he works as a computer programmer you
brainless idiot! :-)
Jesus said he was not good. He can't possibly say I am your Creator and by the way I
am not good. The question itself shows the complete ignorance about what's written
in the bible and reveals the total blasphemy and darkness that polytheist trinitarian
pagans are living in.
Jesus is not GOD! The GOD Almighty of the Old Testament BOASTS
about Himself! He countlessly reminds the Jews about Worshiping Him and only Him
because He is the "One who took them out of Egypt",
and He's the "One who Saved them from Pharaoh",
etc... Not only that, but He also Punishes to death anyone
who profanes His Holy and Blessed Name.
Jesus can not be this Holy and Mighty and Arrogant and Absolute GOD Almighty when he,
for instance, escaped to Egypt for his life from King Herod!
The GOD Almighty's Divine Characteristics in the Old Testament can not in
anyway fit Jesus who is not "good" and who runs for his life from a creation of
GOD Almighty.
The
early Christians rejected Trinity. Early Christians had major problems and
disagreements about who truly Jesus was and whether or not he got crucified or not.
The
"God" title in the Bible was given to others in the Old and New Testaments.Answering Isaiah 9:6.
The "El" (God) title that was given to Jesus in the Old Testament, and
the "HOTHEOS" (God) title in the New Testament, were
given to others before and after Jesus in the Bible.
The only UNIQUE title that exists in the Bible is
"Yahweh", which means "The Eternal".
It's funny how the polytheist trinitarian pagans constantly try to twist and deceive to
prove satan's biggest lie in history, trinity. Jesus was
not "sinlessness". Jesus also was defeated by a
woman's wisdom and changed his racist views about non-Jews being the "Jews' dogs" (see point #7 in the
article). While Mark 10:18 does not mean that Jesus is admitting to be evil (by
saying he is not good), but it definitely sets the record straight about him not being GOD
Almighty.
Isaiah 11:1-3
1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a
Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of
wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge
and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus
fearing his GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his
eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears;
As we see in Isaiah 11:1-3, there is:
1- Spirit of Wisdom and Understanding.
2- Spirit of Counsel and of power.
3- Spirit of Knowledge.
4- Spirit of the fear of the LORD.
Also, the verses above say "and he will delight in the fear of
the LORD", which clearly proves that Jesus is under GOD Almighty and can not
be equivalent to Him or part of Him, because GOD Almighty has no fear in Him.
He Created fear, or the Spirit of Fear, and He installs it on whom ever He pleases.
But He Himself doesn't have that Spirit in Him!
The verses above also say "He will not judge by what he sees
with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears;...", which further proves that Jesus is not part of GOD Almighty, because GOD
Almighty Speaks and Hears whatever He Pleases!
Early Christians rejected Trinity. They also had
major problems and disagreements about who truly Jesus was and whether or not he got
crucified or not:
The sections of this article are:
1- Early Christians rejected Trinity.
2- Questions to Trinitarian Christians.
3- Early Christians, especially during the 2nd century, had major disagreements and
problems with each others about the identity of Jesus and whether or not he got
crucified.
4- The quotes of Peter's
Apocalypse that confirm Islam's claims.
See link of Web site that contains the quotes.
JESUS NEVER GOT CRUCIFIED!
1- Early Christians
rejected Trinity:
The following was sent to me by brother Fikirman;
may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
We, Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") are not the only ones who believe that Jesus (peace be upon him) is mortal
and not a god so that means we deny the trinity.
The Jews also reject the trinity, in addition to the very first groups of Christianity
such as the Ebonites, the Corinthians, the Basilidians,
the Capocratians, and the Hypisistarians never know about trinity doctrine at all.
The Arians, Paulicians and Goths also accepted Jesus (peace be upon him) as a prophet of
God and against the trinity.
Even in the modern age there are churches in Asia, in Africa, the Unitarian church, the
Jehovah's witnesses, and even the majority of today's Anglican Bishops do not worship
Jesus (peace be upon him) as one in three, as what been report by the "Daily
News" 25/6/84 under the heading "Shock survey of Anglican Bishops."
Moreover, the 'Socinianism', the 17th-century Christian also rejects such traditional
doctrines as the Trinity and original sin, the founder is Socinus, and his Latinized name
of Lelio Francesco Maria Sozzini (1525-1562), the Italian Protestant theologian.
Johannes Greber (1874) a former of Catholic priest in his book 'The Communication with
the Spirit World of God' in page 371 was written, "As you see, the doctrine of a
triune Godhead is not only contrary to common sense, but is entirely unsupported by the
Scriptures". So another priest who was deny the trinity.
A theologians, Edouard Schillebeeckx of the Netherlands in 1979 was writings some
article that rejects the doctrine of the Trinity. This caused concern to the Vatican.
2- Question to
Trinitarian Christians:
Why, for thousands of years, did none of God's prophets teach his people about the
Trinity? At the least, would Jesus not use his ability as the Great Teacher to make the
Trinity clear to his followers? Would God inspire hundreds of pages of Scripture and yet
not use any of this instruction to teach the Trinity if it were the "central
doctrine" of faith?
3- Early
Christians, especially during the 2nd century, had major disagreements and problems with
each others about the identity of Jesus and whether or not he got crucified:
Introductory Note:
Hebrews 5:7-8
confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible!According to the documentary film, "Banned
from the Bible", which I watched on the History Channel, some of Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the current Bible, and these
Epistles contain what Islam claims - that Jesus didn't get crucified on the cross and it
only appeared that he was. This banned part also says that Jesus was
standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible
that only few people in the world know about.
According to the documentary film, the apocalypse was very popular among Christians during the 2nd
century. They believed "it was spiritually inspired" by
GOD Almighty to Saint Peter. They actually had doubts about "John's
apocalypse", which is known today as "the Book of Revelation".
Interestingly also, this apocalypse says that after GOD Almighty
fills both Heaven and Hell with inhabitants from Mankind, and the people of Hell get
tortured for a long period of time, the People of Heaven will ask and Pray to GOD Almighty
to Forgive the people of Hell. GOD Almighty will then eventually listen to their
Prayers, and will order the "Gates and the Steel Bars of Hell"
to be opened and allow the people of Hell to enter Heaven for Good. This apocalypse of Peter seems to also perfectly fit Noble Verse 7:40 in the Noble Quran where Allah Almighty Promised
that He will eventually open the Gates of Heaven to all disbelievers and empty Hell.
Please visit: Hell will eventually be empty according to
Islam.
The following three posts from my message board contain the proofs and references about
early apocalypses and epistles conflicting with trinity, Jesus' identity about being GOD,
and the crucifixion story. During the 2nd century, it was widely believed among many
Christians that Jesus never got crucified. This belief perfectly agrees with Islam.
Osama Abdallah
The apocalypse of Peter confirms ISLAM'S Jesus never got crucified AND Hell will
eventually be empty!
4/09/2004
Peace be upon you everyone,
I just finished watching the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible"
on the History Channel.
Please visit: Hebrews 5:7-8 confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified
and contradicts the Bible! (https://www.answering-christianity.com/hebrews5_7.htm)
According to the documentary film, some of Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the
current Bible, and these Epistles contain what Islam claims - that Jesus didn't get
crucified on the cross and it only appeared that he was. This banned part also
says that Jesus was standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible
that only few people in the world know about.
According to the documentary film, the apocalypse was very popular among Christians
during the 2nd century. They believed "it was spiritually inspired" by
GOD Almighty to Saint Peter. They actually had doubts about "John's apocalypse",
which is known today as "the Book of Revelation". Interestingly also, this
apocalypse says that after GOD Almighty fills both Heaven and Hell with inhabitants from
Mankind, and the people of Hell get tortured for a long period of time, the People of
Heaven will ask and Pray to GOD Almighty to Forgive the people of Hell. GOD Almighty will
then eventually listen to their Prayers, and will order the "Gates and the Steel
Bars of Hell" to be opened and allow the people of Hell to enter Heaven for Good.
This apocalypse of Peter seems to also perfectly fit Noble Verse 7:40 in the Noble
Quran where Allah Almighty Promised that He will eventually open the Gates of
Heaven to all disbelievers and empty Hell. Please visit: Hell will eventually be empty
according to Islam (www.answering-christianity.com/hell.htm).
Osama Abdallah
RE:RE:The apocalypse of Peter confirms ISLAM'S Jesus never got crucified AND Hell will
eventually be empty!
4/10/2004
As'salamu Alaikum brother,
In regards to obtaining a copy of the banned apocalypse, I am not aware of any place
that you can buy it from. But you can go to any major university and ask any theology
professor and he should be able to assist you better.
You can purchase the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible", at www.historychannel.com
and watch it for yourself.
In regards to the New Testament, there are 24,000 epistles (letters) found so far that
were written about Jesus. Constantine, which came around year 300 decided to chose the
current 30+ books and gospels of the "Cannon" or New Testament. But
before that, many books or epistles were believed to be inspired, including this banned
apocalypse. In fact, this apocalypse was "very popular" and was widely
believed that it was "SPIRITUALLY INSPIRED TO SAINT PETER".
The point is, Contantine's decision along with his church is irrelevant here. The 30+
current books of the Bible are corrupted and were written by men. They were chosen from
24,000 epistles, and the 30+ books do contain contradictions in them regarding Jesus'
divinity and identity. In www.answering-christianity.com/contra.htm,
I have provided ample proof for this.
I personally don't have any proof about the divinity of the banned apocalypse, other
than that it was widely believed in during the 2nd century and it perfectly agrees with
Islam. To me, Islam's Truth proves the apocalypse's Truthfulness. It is an indirect proof,
but it is the only proof anyone can give to any of the 24,000 epistles. Early
Christians had major problems and disagreements about who truly Jesus was and whether or
not he got crucified or not. Constantine's *easy way out* did not solve the
problem, because his books and gospels do contain errors and contradictions in them as
well, and some of them even suggest that Jesus never got crucified, as I explained in www.answering-christianity.com/hebrews5_7.htm.
4- The quotes of
Peter's Apocalypse that confirm Islam's claims:
The following quotes, proofs and references of the quotes were posted by brother Haytham on my
message board, may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him. I have colored and
bolded important points below to make easier to read.
The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad
and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet
they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame,
the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."
But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at
you. Let us flee this place."
But he said to me, "I have told you, "Leave
the blind alone!". And you, see how they do not know what they are
saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."
And I saw someone about to approach us resembling him, even
him who was laughing on the tree. And he was filled with a Holy Spirit, and
he is the Savior. And there was a great, ineffable light around them,and the multitude of
ineffable and invisible angels blessing them. And when I looked at him, the one who gives
praise was revealed.
And he said to me, "Be strong, for you are the one to whom
these mysteries have been given, to know them through revelation, that he whom they
crucified is the first-born, and the home of demons, and the stony vessel, in which
they dwell, of Elohim, of the cross, which is under the Law. But he who stands near him is
the living Savior, the first in him, whom they seized and released, who stands joyfully
looking those who did him violence,while they are divided among themselves. Therefore he
laughs at their lack of perception, knowing that they are born blind. So then the one
susceptible to suffering shall come, since the body is the substitute.But what they
released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant
light.He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Palermo , which unites the perfect
light with my Holy Spirit."
Read on :
"But many others, who oppose the truth and are the
messengers of error, will set up their error and their law against these pure thoughts of
mine, as looking out from one perspective, thinking that good and evil are from one
source. They do business in my word. And they will propagate harsh fate. The race of
immortal souls will go in it in vain, until my Parousia. For they shall come out of them,
and my forgiveness of their transgressions into which they fell through the adversaries,
whose ransom I got from the slavery in which they were, to give them freedom that they may
create an imitation remnant in the name of a dead man, who is Hermas, of the first-born of
unrighteousness, in order that the light which exists may not believed by the little ones.
But those of this sort are the worker who will be cast into the outer darkness, away from
the sons of light. For neither will they enter, nor do they permit those who are going up
to their approval for their release."
It is noteworthy that many other gospels contain similar messages. You guys need to
understand and know that in the first century,
1) EVERY CHURCH HAD ITS OWN DOCTRINE
2) EVERY CHURCH HAD ITS OWN SCRIPTURES.
Not until the first council did the people in Rome set what we see today as the
standard christian theology. All those other early churches have been persecuted and
killed for their different views.
Did
Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus? It
supports Islam's claims about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross. I
also addressed John 19:36-37 from the Bible and proved that Jesus never got crucified,
since GOD Almighty promised that he will protect Jesus' body and not let even a single
bone be broken. My question to all Christians is: How
in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any
penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's bones?! I also added refutations to Exodus 12:46,
Numbers 9:12, Zechariah 12:10 and Psalm 34:20, which supposedly prove the
Christians' belief about Jesus crucifixion. I proved that this dogma has no truth
what so ever and exposed the wrong Trinitarian English translation of Zechariah 12:10. I also showed in Isaiah 52:13 "...he will be
raised and lifted up....", which clearly and
perfectly agrees with Islam about Jesus never died on the cross. "Raised
and lifted" suggests that Jesus will be picked up right from the cross, or saved
right from the cross by Allah Almighty. It suggests that Jesus will not die, nor get
crucified, but rather be raised and lifted by GOD Almighty to Heavens.
Hebrews 5:7-8
confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible!According to the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible", which I watched on the
History Channel, some of Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the current Bible, and these
Epistles contain what Islam claims - that Jesus didn't get crucified on the cross and it
only appeared that he was. This banned part also says that Jesus was
standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible that
only few people in the world know about.
According to the documentary film, the apocalypse was very popular among Christians during the 2nd
century. They believed "it was spiritually inspired" by
GOD Almighty to Saint Peter. They actually had doubts about "John's
apocalypse", which is known today as "the Book of Revelation".
Interestingly also, this apocalypse says that after GOD Almighty
fills both Heaven and Hell with inhabitants from Mankind, and the people of Hell get
tortured for a long period of time, the People of Heaven will ask and Pray to GOD Almighty
to Forgive the people of Hell. GOD Almighty will then eventually listen to their
Prayers, and will order the "Gates and the Steel Bars of Hell"
to be opened and allow the people of Hell to enter Heaven for Good. This apocalypse of Peter seems to also perfectly fit Noble Verse 7:40 in the Noble Quran where Allah Almighty Promised
that He will eventually open the Gates of Heaven to all disbelievers and empty Hell.
Please visit: Hell will eventually be empty according to Islam.
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was Godwas with
authority (same Greek word for
satan's rule [2]
[3])."
What parts of the Bible and Hadiths
do Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") believe are closest to
the Truth, and Why? [1]
[2]
Note to Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"):
As Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"), we must be very careful when we comment on the
previous Scriptures, because there is always a possibility that there might be
Divine Revelations parts in the verses that we might be objecting to. I
know that the many of the disbelievers constantly insult and mock Islam all the time, and even lie on their
own Scriptures with their
"End of
Times Prophecies" lies, -where they hijacked even the Bible with their
bigotry, hate
and lies, - but still dear brothers
and sisters in Islam, we must always be very careful when we deal with previous
Scriptures, because as Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") we do believe that they
do contain remnants of
Divine Revelations in them. May Allah Almighty forgive me, and forgive all sincere
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"), for any and all mistakes and errors that we may have fell into.
Ameen.
The Gospel Christ:
So, what was the Gospel of
Jesus Christ then, i.e., the Injil of Jesus Christ?
Even among Christians, this remains a mystery. But the
Didache; a Gospel which existed even before the
current Bible-Gospels (or canonized Gospels), contains a great deal of teachings
of Jesus Christ. The following points are important to always keep in
mind: (1)- No single Scripture, the Didache or any other Scripture, is 100% pure
and accurate. There are always forgeries and alterations. This is
the same with every single book and gospel. (2)- The Original Teachings of
Christ exist in Scriptures that are in the Bible and outside the Bible.
Zionist
Israel will rule the earth
with Mighty Evil!
(Islamic Prophecy)
The Glorious
Quran declared 1,400 years ago that the Israeli Zionist machine
will rule the entire earth with mighty evil and power.
They will reach
"Mighty Heights"علوا كبيرا of evil
power and might on earth. See
Noble Verses 17:4-8:
Also, Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be
upon him, made a
stunning prophecy about the one-eyed anti-Christ
who will rule the infidels and the world:
Narrated Ibn Umar:
"Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people,
glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then
mentioned the Dajjal
(anti-Christ)
saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and
there was no prophet but warned his nation against him.
No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell
you about him something of
which
no prophet told his nation before me. You should know
that
he is one-eyed,
and Allah is
not one-eyed."
(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number
553)"
Prophet
Muhammad had
many visions about the dajjal,
and gave many signs about him. Some of
the things the Prophet said about the dajjal
were literal, and some were
vision-metaphors. The most prominent
one is that he will be one-eyed. This
is both literal and metaphoric. It is
literal today because the
zionist anti-Christ system is
indeed represented by the
ONE-EYE symbol
as seen in the following images. The
metaphors here are Allah Almighty not being
ONE-EYED, because nothing can describe Allah
Almighty. There is
"none like unto Him"
(Quran, 112:4). In other words
also, the Prophet warned that this ONE-EYED
SATANIC system will be a worshiped deity.
And that false deity is not Allah Almighty. For ample more
details and proofs, please visit
link
below.
Was the
Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold
before Islam in the Bible's
Zechariah 11:17?
I demonstrated using ample Biblical verses
that the ONE-EYED DAJJAL (anti-Christ) was
never prophesied in the Bible to be
ONE-EYED, nor was this Sign ever given in
the Bible to any being.
For ample
Noble Verses and Hadiths (Sayings of the Prophet), and proofs,
please visit:
Many
references of this Hadith (Saying) exist throughout our
Islamic Texts. This is one of the most popular
Hadiths and Prophecies of Prophet Muhammad, peace be
upon him. And indeed, we are seeing it come to
pass before our very eyes. Please also visit:
The Gospel Christ:
So, what was the Gospel of
Jesus Christ then, i.e., the Injil of Jesus Christ?
Even among Christians, this remains a mystery. But the
Didache; a Gospel which existed even before the
current Bible-Gospels (or canonized Gospels), contains a great deal of teachings
of Jesus Christ. The following points are important to always keep in
mind: (1)- No single Scripture, the Didache or any other Scripture, is 100% pure
and accurate. There are always forgeries and alterations. This is
the same with every single book and gospel. (2)- The Original Teachings of
Christ exist in Scriptures that are in the Bible and outside the Bible.
Jesus is Yahweh the Son? See how Christians got this very wrong
in the NT, using Jesus' words himself!
Also, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1 John 2:22?
Doubting Thomas
couldn't raise
Jesus??
No way!!
He raised many
before
(Matthew
10:7-8):
Thomas raised
many people from the dead
(Matthew
10:7-8).
Yet, he and the disciples
could not raise Jesus back to life
after the crucifixion? Not only that,
but they all fled, and Thomas became the
"doubting Thomas"
because he did not believe that the man who
returned was Jesus. But did you not raise people from
the dead already, Thomas? What happened there?
You could've raised Jesus himself back to life with your own
hands! Yet, it was impossible for you to believe that
it was Jesus who returned? Why?
These alleged miracles are very loud!
If you raise people from the dead, then the entire land of
Palestine would've heard about it. Yet, nothing
recorded historically about them. So do we have here loud
miracles or loud lies?
Doubting Thomas supposedly said (in Greek???)
"My Lord
and my God"
to Jesus. The church thoroughly admits that NT is badly altered, and earliest copies of NT don't date before year 200.So not only the Aramaic original language of Jesus was never documented, hence his original sayings are permanently lost, but the Greek writings (a language Jesus never spoke) had been badly corrupted. Trinity and all its faulty analysis are based on writings that are totally off (different language and phrases spoken altogether) and utter nonsense. Yet, all believers were called "God", and
Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:
Jesus forbade people from
calling him "son of David" and "son of Abraham" (Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") bless Abraham everyday. Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."). He
said he is greater than them, and no one should call him son
of any of these two servants of GOD Almighty. Yet,
Jesus walked around and called himself son of Adam countless
times:
Trinitarians: Jesus is our Creator. Jesus: Why are you thinking such evil things?
Matthew 9:3-4 (CEV) 3 Some teachers of the Law of Moses said to themselves, “Jesus must think he is God!” 4 But Jesus knew what was in their minds, and he said, “Why are you thinking such evil things?
Mark 10:18 ""Why do you call me good ἀγαθόν (agathon)?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." Good = agathon ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς
So from people who opposed and followed Jesus, some from both sides thought he was claiming to be GOD Almighty. Jesus absolutely rejected this blasphemy and misunderstanding!
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
Jesus is the
resurrection
(John 11:25), but yet
does not know
when
the Hour of the resurrection will
come (Matthew
24:36)
[1],
and he had to cry, weep and
beg GOD
to resurrect Lazarus back to
life. And this proves he is our Creator?
And how is he exactly The Resurrection?
Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even
resurrect or
create a fly
on their own? This is one of
the Glorious Quran's
challenges
to the polytheists from mankind who
insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and
water, and idols. All are helpless.
All are worthless when compared to Allah
Almighty.
In the OT, Elisha and
many others also raised the dead:
2 Kings 4
32 Elisha arrived at the
woman’s house and went straight to his room,
where he saw the boy’s body on his bed. 33
He walked in, shut the door, and
prayed to the Lord.
34 Then he got on the bed and
stretched out over the dead
body,
with his mouth on the boy’s mouth, his eyes on
his eyes, and his hand on his hands. As he lay
there, the boy’s body became warm. 35 Elisha
got up and walked back and forth in the room,
then he went back and leaned over the boy’s
body. The boy sneezed seven times and
opened his eyes. 36 Elisha called out
to Gehazi, “Have the boy’s mother come here.”
Gehazi did, and when she was at the door, Elisha
said, “You can take your son.” 37 She came in
and bowed down at Elisha’s feet. Then she picked
up her son and left.
John 5:30 "I
cannot do anything on my own." (i.e., I am totally powerless. In other verses, Jesus could not even perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).
Bible's problematic hyperboles.
Jesus has, for example, caused Christians to
eat pork, and they're now even the world's
biggest pork consumers. But a closer
look at the text reveals that he never
allowed it and could never even DARE to
violate GOD Almighty by allowing it.
The last two chapters of the book of
Isaiah make an End of Time Prophecy
about the evil and immoral ones who will
be pork (pig's meat) eaters.
The Bible has
ample problems with its hyperbole and
excessive confusing metaphoric language,
to a point where we don't know what
Jesus actually means, and it has made
lawful things sinful and sinful things
lawful. Interestingly, people in
the NT called Jesus a fat
drunk,
because they observed him drinking too
much wine (alcohol) and eating too much.
He was a "gluttonous,
and a winebibber" (Matthew
11:19) [1]
[2].
This could've played a major role in the
nonsensical language that he was
uttering left and right. Only
Allah Almighty Knows best.
Ample more
examples are given in the link above.
Did Jesus ever claim to be God? (8 minutes)
John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus
Video: 1, 2. Sam Shamoun, the trinitarian barfoon, forgot that "GOD IS ONE" is mentioned countless times in his scriptures. Also, Jesus was also called "SLAVE OF GOD" in NT and OT. There is no Divine Son that is part of Allah Almighty. That's one of the several things Islam came to correct:
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
.
Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty. Sam Shamoun: If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity". It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal". Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist. Click to play video clip.
Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article. According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament. There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44). Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text. Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT. It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty. The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty (Not even Jesus was given the Book according to the Glorious Quran). We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:
Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:
The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet. The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:
Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe? Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Doesn't this prove that Islam is false? But he was preached!
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") honor the Virgin Birth:
We Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") believe in the virgin birth of Isa
Al-Maseeh,
from our mother Mariam, peace be upon them both.
We also believe Isa performed many Miracles.
In fact, it was the Christians who doubted the
virgin birth. Islam came to cement it.
But Isa (eesa) was nonetheless a creation of GOD
Almighty, and a slave of GOD. Even the Old
Testament calls Jesus "Slave of GOD":
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
Sun Chips
Blasphemies:
Jesus said
Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son.
But the Old Testament thoroughly calls
Jesus the
slave of GOD[1]
and who also fears GOD.
Yes indeed, the Islamic
Isa (eesa) is the Messiah.
This is his special sonship. He is
also the Lord of his Mansion, which has
twelve thrones or fruits
[2].
He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul
(Prophet) in this regard. He is
also the
heir of GOD
on earth only. That's the limit of
his sonship. Otherwise, it is sun
chips! There is nothing GODly
about him. He is not our Creator.
With all of his glory and might, he
still remains a mere
abd (slave) of GOD
[1]
as all sons of GOD were also called
slaves of GOD.
See also:
Again,
could
"Jesus" and the disciples honestly even
resurrect or
create a fly
on their own? This is one of
the Glorious Quran's
challenges
to the polytheists from mankind who
insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust
and water, and idols. All are
helpless. All are worthless when
compared to Allah Almighty.
Sun Chips
oxymoron:
The polytheist trinitarian pagans'
oxymoron here is that they're making a
sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's
sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no
more than servants raised to honour")
with their blasphemies of inflating him
with hot air and making him the Creator
of the Universe.
1 John 2:22-23
[1]
church-written lie are discussed further down in details in
this table. Ironically, the Bible's own theologians
admit that
1 John contains forgeries
by church fathers.
Trinitarians: Jesus is our Creator. Jesus: Why are you thinking such evil things?
Matthew 9:3-4 (CEV) 3 Some teachers of the Law of Moses said to themselves, "Jesus must think he is God!" 4 But Jesus knew what was in their minds, and he said, “Why are you thinking such evil things?
Mark 10:18 ""Why do you call me good ἀγαθόν (agathon)?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." Good = agathon ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς
So from people who opposed and followed Jesus, some from both sides thought he was claiming to be GOD Almighty. Jesus absolutely rejected this blasphemy and misunderstanding!
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
We read in
the Bible that Prophets are servants and
Jesus is the Son
(Matthew 21:33-46).
Jesus is more than a Rasul
(Prophet). Jesus was
also called Abd (slave) of GOD
throughout the Old Testament, as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of
GOD.
Jesus' rule is only limited to
his Mansion.
Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by
twelve Thrones
(also called them 12 Fruits). Jesus being
King of kings
means that he is the King of his Mansion's
twelve thrones.
King of
kings
for Jesus does not refer
to the corrupt earthly kings
and thieves. They were offered to Jesus
before during his
temptation by satan, and Jesus ultimately refused them all. Jesus
is the king of the twelve thrones inside his Mansion.
Other people
in the OT were called King of kings also. So the
title is not even unique to Jesus.
Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1,*] [2] [3]. The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty. The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah. Jews do call Him: Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah. See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs. Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew. And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician. See the following links:
(Click to play videos)
Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)".
Sam Shamoun showed where portions of his OT is mixed between Hebrew and Aramaic writings. He also unintentionally proved that the Hebrew "ben" (son) is not the same as the Aramaic "bar" (wrongly gets translated as "son"). The correct and accurate translation is for "bar" is "the chosen pious one". Again, Allah Almighty has NO DIVINE SON. He considers the pious chosen ones as close BARS. The Aramaic and Arabic are the same in this one. See the ample verses and analysis in the video.
Please also visit: The definition of "Son of God" in Islam.
In the Bible,
"the
Son" refers to the
Messiah, - the
Ultimate Messenger to the Jews. Son in
their time meant Servant of GOD. Allah
Almighty also explained it precisely like this
in the Glorious Quran:
"....servants raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
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This is what we will be called in
Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize
"Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but
Says that they are no more than pious"....servants
raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
Nothing Divine about them except that they exist
with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.
But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all
Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah
Almighty Alone and none else. You can
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Trinity Crucified!
100s of verses prove trinity is false.
Jesus
healed others only after getting
permissions from GOD Almighty. His
wishes were sometimes
denied.[1] [2]
Except GOD Alone!
Jesus rejectedἀγαθόν.
Jesus forbade anyone
from calling him ἀγαθόν.
He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.
And other great figures in the Old Testament
were also called:
1-
GOD (El) of
other people.
2- Son of GOD.
3- Begotten Son of GOD.
4- GOD's First Born.
5- GOD's Heir and Heirs (for believers).
6- GODly name with Yahweh and El attached to the name.
7- King of Kings (called by Yahweh Himself in the OT).
8- All believers are GODs (Elohim) and Sons of GOD (Beni Elohim).
Is Jesus
"God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?"
[1]
King James
Version Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and
of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in
thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up
his Son Jesus,
sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
New King
James Version Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of
the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in
your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.
Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up
His Servant Jesus,
sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.
"Servant" here is slave. Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2],
the
same word used for the Jews' slaves, and all slaves in general,
throughout
the Bible [2].
Jesus, the abd of GOD, is also the slave of GOD in the NT.
In Arabic also it's the same. My name
Osama Abdallah,
which means
Osama slave of Allah (GOD). Slave is a subject of GOD. A
servant is
independent. A servant provides services. He/she can quit serving
without consequences and can even kick you out of their territory.
But
a
slave (ABD) is totally OWNED.
The Servants are the
Prophets of Israel. But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the
Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet.
Jesus' rule is
only limited to
his Mansion. Jesus also said that
this Mansion is ruled by
twelve Thrones (also called them 12
Fruits).
Prophets are Servants,
Jesus is the Son
(Matthew 21:33-46).
Jesus is only
the Lord of the Jews' Mansion.
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God
was with authority
(same Greek word for
satan's rule
[ [1]
[2]
[3])."
The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in
Revelation.....
Revelation 20:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and
judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were
beheaded for the ;witness
of Jesus,
and for
the word of God...
Revelation 1:2
2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the
word of God and
the testimony
of Jesus Christ
Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad. I took
the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi. Indeed,
the Word of GOD Almighty
ENCOMPASSES Jesuss,
because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares.
The Romans had to
fake his crucifixion due to
Passover issues:
Click to play
video [1].
Matthew 12:40:"shall
be buried deep in the heart of earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of
the whale."
Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore, alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!
This Prophecy is a lie!
Jesus laid on the floor, got healed, and got up and
left. He was
never
inside any coffin
nor ever got buried. Also, because 100s
of thousands of pilgrims were coming to Jerusalem for the Passover, the
Romans had to rush his "crucifixion" and bring him down. The soldiers
were
even denied food due to lack of time. Jesus never got
crucified: [1]
[2]
[3]
[4].
The OT and NT clearly spell it out. He was
saved.
Matthew 27:16-17: There were two Jesuses! Not one. Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:
[004:156] That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge; [004:157] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) know ledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- [004:158] Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
Divine Setup for Conjecture:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.
"... but so it was made to appear to them..." (Quran 4:157)
"...The Bibles' Christ was put on the cross for three hours. Any one of us would've survived this silly crucifixion. Your human body, when faced with death, can become 10+ times stronger, more resilient, more resistant and more stubborn than normal. This is what would enable you, for example, to lift an entire truck with your bare hands if your precious child was under it. Similarly, if you were put on the cross for three silly hours, your body would've survived it. A soldier was placed on the cross for 63 hours and still lived to tell the world about it." (Source)
Again, a Divine Setup for Conjecture.
Was Jesus Christ Crucified?
At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed this debate and destroyed Christianity!
This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from the Bible's New Testament that Jesus Christ was never crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead. This 3-hour debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.
Psalm 91 promises Jesus will never get hurt or die. Satan in the NT challenged Jesus on Psalm 91. Yashua (salvation) is the last word in Psalm 91, and it also happens to be one of Jesus' names in the New Testament.
Here is my shortened version video. Dr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones. But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video. See also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian brother on my blog. You're welcomed to join in.
Christianity's Salvation Lie:
Because Christianity's scriptures didn't get documented for 200+ years after Jesus, the Church and Christians had developed and invented the crucifixion lie and its requirement to save a person from Hell (by him believing in it), which had been thoroughly proven from both the Bible and the Glorious Quran, to be a fabricated lie [1]. Salvation verses like John 3:16 and others are all forgeries that were invented by liars 100s of years after the real Eesa, the real Messiah. Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus. Notice here Jesus' statements:
Matthew 9 12 Jesus heard them and answered, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor, but sick people do. 13 Go and learn what the Scriptures mean when they say, ‘Instead of offering sacrifices to me, I want you to be merciful to others.’I didn’t come to invite good people to be my followers. I came to invite sinners.”
Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Being Merciful to others makes you a good person. And Jesus didn't come for you if you are. Jesus didn't come to invite merciful and good people. They're already saved. They need no invitation. The Christian lie about one must accept that Jesus died on the cross for his/her sins is mandatory for their salvation, and that otherwise they'd be doomed to Hell is thoroughly destroyed in Matthew 9:12-13.
Matthew 9:12-13I have not come for you if you're a merciful Jew.
Three Isaiah 53 translation lies:
Three lies in translations of Isaiah 53, as further elaborated below in this table, that need to be clarified:
1- He was assigned a grave. This doesn't mean he was buried in it, because Jesus was never buried in any grave. He laid on the floor inside a tomb (cave-like structure), got healed and got up and left. He was never inside any coffin nor ever got buried inside the earth.
2- He was pierced for our sins. No, he was hurt (the word is not pierced or stabbed) because of "our"
(Jews only) sins and transgressions. If you drive with your family and get hit by a drunk driver and your baby ends up getting killed, your baby didn't die for his sin. Your baby died BECAUSE of his sin and transgression. Otherwise, you would not have driven on the same road that day if you knew the future.
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John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus
Early Church Fathers: Jesus never died for anyone's sins!
Sam Shamoun: The early fathers declared Jesus never died for any sin! Shamoun is realizing how full of forged lies & conjecture his historical Christianity is. They declared that Jesus never bore (carried) any sin for anyone on the cross.
Jesus never died for anyone's sins! He was placed on the cross BECAUSE of (not for) the Jews' sins, and Allah Almighty SAVED HIM. Read the detailed analysis on Isaiah 53, Psalm 91 and others at:
Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
3- In his death. It is talking about his sentencing to death and not actual death. It is also symbolic, because Jesus didn't even stay for 3 hours on the cross (2.a) and was never killed. Plus, Jesus begged GOD (Matthew 26:36-44) all night to save him from crucifixion and all hurt. all hurt.
Lies about Psalm 91:13:
Some polytheist trinitarian pagans say that Psalm 91:13 proves that Jesus was never crucified:
Psalm 91:13 You will tread on the lion and the adder, the young lion and the serpent you will trample under foot.
They say that Jesus treading (stomping on) the lion and the snake means that he defeated satan via the cross. Satan is called both lion and snake. So Jesus stomped on him by getting crucified (killed on the cross) and resurrecting from death. They also say the NT books such as Matthew and Luke that quote Psalm 91 for Jesus both claim that Jesus was killed on the cross.
14 Because he cleaves to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name. 15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him. 16 With long life I will satisfy him, and show him my salvation.
1-
Also, Jesus was only placed for 3 hours on the cross (2.a). They had to pull the plug on crucifixion because the Passover was about to begin, where 1/2 million Jewish pilgrims were to shortly start pouring into Jerusalem. I, Osama Abdallah, would have survived Jesus' crucifixion.
2-
Also, Jesus was never killed. He laid on the floor in the tomb, received medical treatment from the two Marys and other women, and then got up and left.
3- The books that say he was killed on the cross were written 200 to 400 years after Jesus. The majority of Christian historians and theologians claim this.
4- Psalm 91:15"...I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him." Clearly declares he will be saved from death.
Merciful Palestinian and Good Neighbor Parable:
5- Jesus said below in Luke 10:25-37, Matthew 9:12-13: If you're merciful, a good neighbor like the Palestinian Samaritan in Luke 10:33, and above all, GOD-Fearing (OT says Jesus was a slave of GOD and GOD-Fearing), then you have nothing to fear. "Do this, and you will live" Jesus said. That's it. Jesus even used good Palestinians in his parable. Dying on the cross is a developed Christian lie centuries after Jesus. It's a forgery.
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
.
Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty. Sam Shamoun: If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity". It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal". Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist. Click to play video clip.
Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article. According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament. There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44). Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text. Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT. It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty. The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty (Not even Jesus was given the Book according to the Glorious Quran). We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:
Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:
The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet. The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:
Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe? Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Doesn't this prove that Islam is false? But he was preached!
The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa
(not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them.
Jesus'
Original Name:
Prophet Jesus' original name was
Eesa,
as this is also his Islamic name. The article (Eesa) also gives ample Hebrew references and proofs. Even in
Latin,
it is Iesu, and in
Greek it is Iesus. There is also a
great deal of evidence that Jesus spoke and
preached in Arabic. Not only that, but
Greek wasn't even that popular in Palestine.
Islam's claims are very strongly supported.
See proofs below.
Did early
Christians preach Prophet Muhammad in Rome?
Did the early
believers preach Prophet Muhammad in Corinth,
Antioch, Rome and all other places?
Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, was the Jews'
Messiah and final Prophet. In both the
Glorious Quran and the Dead Sea Scrolls,
Ahmed was prophesied to come.
Ahmed in the Quran is Prophet Muhammad's
prophetic name. Also, see below the Dead
Sea Scroll image. The New Testament too
predicts the coming of three:
So did the
early believers preach the coming of Prophet
Ahmed or Muhammad? The answer is quite
possible, but Muhammad would've been phase 2 for
them and not phase 1. Jesus was the early
believers' immediate
Prophet, not Muhammad. And all of
the details that they had were about Jesus, not
Muhammad. It is also important to know
that the following
seven Roman Emperors
have thoroughly
burned all (burnt all) of the early believers'
writings:
1. Nero
(54-68)
2. Domitian (81-96)
3. Marcus Aurelius (161-180)
4. Septimius Severus (193-211; up to a
point)
5. Maximinius I Thrax (235-8; up to a
point)
6. Trajanus Decius (249-251)
7. Valerian (253-260)
What we have
today from "gospels" and "New Testament" were
written 100 years to 300 years after Jesus'
departure from this earth. So, the current
writings that we have are not original writings.
Also, to appease the Roman Empire's 3-headed
pagan religion and practices, the pagan 3-headed
trinity was invented [1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5].
Many lies had been fabricated after the original
writings were all lost. The Jews and
Christians of Arabia, however, did have writings
that predicted the coming of Prophet Muhammad.
These were some of the original texts that
survived.
The early believers were expecting an Arabian Prophet. The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:
Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe? Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Doesn't this prove that Islam is false? But he was preached!
Proofs that early Christian believers'
title was
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more")
from the Jews' and Christians sources themselves. Also,
Greek wasn't even the first language in Palestine, nor was it even hardly
spoken by the natives there.
Also, ample proofs that
Jesus also spoke and
preached in Arabic, and
there were many early manuscripts written in Arabic that spoke about the
coming of Prophet Muhammad in details.
Arabic is estimated to date back
8000 to 20000 years by non-Muslim
researchers, and had always been the first language in the entire lands
of the Middle East, North and Central Africa.
Prophet Muhammad foretold,
by the name,
in the previous Scriptures.
We still have texts today and from
the Bible itself and outside the Bible that tell about the coming of
Prophet Muhammad and Islam as the Servant of GOD Almighty and the New
Religion and Covenant of GOD Almighty, respectively.
In the Bible,
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"),
Salamays,
Mushlams, Mushlems,
Mushlimana
are the Believers' original title
[1].
Islam came to restore the original Faith
[1].
Prophet Muhammad in the previous Scriptures.
Prophet Muhammad was thoroughly foretold in the
Bible, and his prophetic Name,
"Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea
Scrolls,
and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious
Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this
very Name, Ahmed [1]
[2].
1- What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible? How
is it defined
in Islam? (see
point #5 below) How does the Bible really define it?
2- What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible?
3-
Jesus had to match
Melchizedek
in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament.
See this
text-debate (*)
between me and a Christian. Jesus' Miracles and
Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he
needed to be in according to
Melchizedek. He had to be
“in according to Melchizedek”
as the Bible specifically says. See
Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20
[2].
Who is
Melchizedek?
According
to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had
"no father and no mother", and
"no beginning and no end"
(Genesis
14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20)
[2].
The Bible literally says that. Jesus had to be similar
and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God"
doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.
Also again, see this
text-debate (*)
between me and a Christian.
4- Does the
Bible say that
Yahweh
created Jesus?
Yes it does (*).
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God
was with authority
(same Greek word for
satan's rule (*)
[2]
[3])."
1 John 2:22-23 is another
church-written lie. Again, ironically, the Bible's own
theologians admit that
1 John contains forgeries
by church fathers.
Christians often quote the following verses to
prove that Islam is the Anti-Christ:
1 John 2
22 Who is a liar but he that
denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that
denieth the Father and the Son.
23 No one who denies the
Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has
the Father also.
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") firmly believe in the
Messiah and his virgin birth miracle.
Islam cemented the
virgin birth of Jesus
belief after it was fading away. Christians admit this.
Also, the Glorious Quran claims that sons of GOD title was used
for servants raised to honor:
Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran.
They are
"....no more than servants raised to honor.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
"Messiah" is the sonship:
Jesus said
Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son.
Son here means he is the Messiah. The Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the
slave
of GOD
[1]
and who also fears GOD.
Yes
indeed, the Islamic
Isa (eesa) is
the Messiah.
This is his special sonship. He is also the Lord of his
Mansion, which has
twelve thrones or fruits
[2].
He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard.
He is also
heir of GOD on earth
only. That's the limit of his sonship. Otherwise, it
is sun chips! There is nothing GODly about him. He
is not our Creator. With all of his glory and might, he
still remains a mere
abd (slave) of GOD
[1]
as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD.
See also:
The polytheist
trinitarian pagans' oxymoron here is that they're
making a sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's
sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no
more than servants raised to honour")
with their blasphemies of inflating him with hot air
and making him the Creator of the Universe.
Could Jesus and the disciples
honestly even resurrect or
create a fly
on their own? This is one of
the Glorious Quran's
challenges
to the polytheists from mankind who
insist on deifying flesh and blood,
dust and water, and idols. All
are helpless. All are
worthless when compared to Allah
Almighty.
Did Jesus ever claim to be God? (8 minutes)
John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus
Video: 1, 2. Sam Shamoun, the trinitarian barfoon, forgot that "GOD IS ONE" is mentioned countless times in his scriptures. Also, Jesus was also called "SLAVE OF GOD" in NT and OT. There is no Divine Son that is part of Allah Almighty. That's one of the several things Islam came to correct:
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
.
5- What
does the Glorious Quran say about the
“Father” and
“Son” titles:
The Quran is against the
exaggerated and inflated meanings of the words, which ultimately
the polytheistic religion of trinity was born out of.
Allah Almighty Said:
"And they say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten offspring."
Glory to Him! they are (but)
servants raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)"
The
Family of Allah
أهل الله
in Islam, and the
Majestic "We":
.......
In regards to your question,
there are two legitimate answers for it:
1- GOD Almighty can and
does refer to Himself as WE and I. So
the plural We can and does refer to Allah
Almighty Alone.
2- In Allah Almighty's
Realm, there are the People of Allah. Even
our Hadiths call them
AHLU ALLAHأهل
الله
(Family of Allah)).
Go to
www.google.com , and search for إن
لله - تعالى -
أهلين
من الناس، قالوا: يا رسول الله من هم؟
قال: هم أهل القران، أهل الله
وخاصته
The Hadith in Arabic translates as:
Allah Almighty has
AHLEEN (families) أهلين
from mankind. They asked: "O
Messenger of Allah, who are they?"
He said: They are the People of the
Quran; the Family/People of GODأهل
الله ,
and they are His Special Ones
خاصته.";
This is what we will be
called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also
does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the
Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no
more than pious"....servants
raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26))".
Nothing Divine about them except that they
exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in
Heaven. But as far as Divine Authority
and Power, all Divine Authority and Power
belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none
else. You can visit:
Trinity Crucified!
100s of verses prove trinity is false.
Jesus
healed others only after getting
permissions from GOD Almighty. His
wishes were sometimes
denied.[1]
[2]
"....servants
raised to honour.
Iblis, who later became satan, used to be
from
AHLU ALLAH
أهل الله
(Family of Allah) when he was a pious
Servant. /span>
But because he and his
followers disobeyed GOD Almighty, they were
cursed and kicked out of the COMMUNITY OF
GOD Almighty:
So it is quite possible that Allah Almighty
uses the WE to refer to Him and His Servants
that HE spoke with directly and Commanded
directly. But even in that ca/span>se,
the WE still also means Allah Almighty Alone
(the Majestic We), because Allah
Almighty is theOne
and Only Decision Maker,
and there is none other besides Him.
I hope this helps, insha'Allah.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
So people did call each
others “Son” and “Daughter” of “GOD”. But in all reality, they
are no more than Servants of GOD raised to honor.
Here are some Bible facts
regarding "FATHER" and "SON":
Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى):
See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78.
In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal
Guardian". المولى is derived from the root word
ولي .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah
Almighty.
FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي ,
وليهما and خليلا). We further read the
following in the Bibles:
Isaiah 41:8/font>
"But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you
descendants of Abraham my friend,
Chronicles 20:7
Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land
before your people Israel and give it forever to the
descendants of Abraham your friend?
James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham
believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,"
and he was called God's friend.
So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is
equal to being
GOD Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare
this to the following from the Holy Quran:
[002:257]
Allah is the friend (ولي)
and patron of those who believe. He brings
them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those
who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their
friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths
of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire.
They will stay there forever.
[003:122]
(And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and
almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend
and Protector (وليهما)?
In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!
[004:125]
Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole
self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the
true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend
(خليلا).
So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the
Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD
Almighty:
1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.
Also, BEGET = CHOSE.
King James Bible Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD
hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I
begotten thee.
Allah Almighty used اصطفاك اصطفيتك يصطفي اصطفى اصطفينا
to mean to
Choose a Servant in Noble Verses
27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75,
35:32, 38:47, 39:4 in the Glorious Quran.
So clearly Islam is in harmony with GOD Almighty being our:
- Guardian
- Friend
- Protector
- And the One who Chose us.
And we definitely believe that
Isa
(Jesus) is the Messiah.
One last important point: Nowhere in the Bible is
Jesus ever called "from the Seed of
GOD"
or "the Seed of GOD". We
do have "Jesus is from the seed
of David" (Psalm
132:10-11, Romans 1:3).
But never from GOD!
GOD has no seed according to both the Bible and the Quran.
Therefore, the claim that Islam is the Anti-Christ is false.
So,
is Islam the anti-Christ
system according to
1john
2:22?
No it isn't. Here are some Quran and Bible facts
regarding "FATHER" and "SON" in more details:
(a)-
Allah Almighty is the
Believers' only Guardian (المولى):
See Noble Verses
8:40, 22:13, 22:78. In Arabic we say
ولي الأمر
, which means "The Legal Guardian". المولى
is derived from the root word
ولي
.ولي
also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty, as in the
following point.
(b)-
FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran
(ولي
,وليهما
andخليلا):
We further read the following in the
Bibles:
Isaiah 41:8
"But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you
descendants of Abraham my friend,
Chronicles 20:7
Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before
your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of
Abraham your friend?
James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God,
and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he
was called God's friend.
So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the
Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".
Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:
[002:257]
Allah is the friend (ولي)
and patron of those who believe. He brings them out
of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not
believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them
out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be
the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.
[003:122] (And
remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell
out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector
(وليهما)?
In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!
[004:125] Who
can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to
God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith?
For God did take Abraham for a friend
(خليلا).
So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD
Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means
that GOD Almighty:
1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.
Please visit the following link to
further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and
definitions:
[027:059]Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on
his servants whom
He has chosen
اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?-
God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?
27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده
الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون
[003:033]
God did choose
اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham,
and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال
ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين
[003:042]
Behold! the angels said: "O
Mary! God hath chosen thee
اصطفاكand purified thee- chosen thee above
the women of all nations.
3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله
اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين
[007:144] (God)
said: "O
Moses! I have chosen thee
اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I
(have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then
the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give
thanks."
7:144 قال ياموسى اني اصطفيتك على الناس برسالاتي وبكلامي فخذ ما
اتيتك وكن من الشاكرين
[022:075]
God chooses
يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for
God is He Who hears and sees (all things).
22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن
الناس ان الله سميع بصير
[035:032]Then We have given the Book for
inheritance to such of Our Servants as
We have chosen
اصطفينا: but there are among them some who
wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who
are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest
Grace.
35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا
من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله
ذلك هو الفضل الكبير
[038:047]They were, in Our sight, truly, of
the company of the
Elect
المصطفينand the Good.
38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار
[039:004]Had God wished to take to Himself
an (actual) son, He could have chosenلاصطفى
whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to
Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the
Irresistible.
39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى
مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار
Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about
when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty
Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't
know. Please visit:
Trinity Crucified!
100s of verses prove trinity is false.
Jesus healed others only after getting
permissions from GOD Almighty. His
wishes were sometimes
denied.[1]
[2]
Jesus spelled it out clearly
that he knew NOT. And as to calling GOD
Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an
ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:
1- Rab - Lord, Father (you are
the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father).
2- Wali - Guardian.
In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD
Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and
Wali. But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual
Father. This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as
idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery. No Jew is
actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal
marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty! Yet, the Jews use
metaphors like these. Islam came to straighten all of this out
and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no
daughter. Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell
if we were His perfect sons and daughters?? No imperfect being
could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or
daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):
[005:018](Both) the Jews and the Christians
say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why
then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are
but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth,
and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion
of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him
is the final goal (of all)"
The Romans
had to
fake his crucifixion
due to Passover issues:
Click to play
video [1].
Matthew 12:40:"shall
be buried deep in the heart of earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of
the whale."
Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore, alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!
This Prophecy is a lie!
Jesus laid on the floor, got healed, and got up and
left. He was
never
inside any coffin
nor ever got buried. Also, because 100s
of thousands of pilgrims were coming to Jerusalem for the Passover, the
Romans had to rush his "crucifixion" and bring him down. The soldiers
were
even denied food due to lack of time. Jesus never got
crucified: [1]
[2]
[3]
[4].
The OT and NT clearly spell it out. He was
saved.
Matthew 27:16-17: There were two Jesuses! Not one. Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:
[004:156] That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge; [004:157] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) know ledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- [004:158] Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
Divine Setup for Conjecture:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.
"... but so it was made to appear to them..." (Quran 4:157)
"...The Bibles' Christ was put on the cross for three hours. Any one of us would've survived this silly crucifixion. Your human body, when faced with death, can become 10+ times stronger, more resilient, more resistant and more stubborn than normal. This is what would enable you, for example, to lift an entire truck with your bare hands if your precious child was under it. Similarly, if you were put on the cross for three silly hours, your body would've survived it. A soldier was placed on the cross for 63 hours and still lived to tell the world about it." (Source)
Again, a Divine Setup for Conjecture.
Was Jesus Christ Crucified?
At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed this debate and destroyed Christianity!
This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from the Bible's New Testament that Jesus Christ was never crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead. This 3-hour debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.
Psalm 91 promises Jesus will never get hurt or die. Satan in the NT challenged Jesus on Psalm 91. Yashua (salvation) is the last word in Psalm 91, and it also happens to be one of Jesus' names in the New Testament.
Here is my shortened version video. Dr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones. But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video. See also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian brother on my blog. You're welcomed to join in.
Christianity's Salvation Lie:
Because Christianity's scriptures didn't get documented for 200+ years after Jesus, the Church and Christians had developed and invented the crucifixion lie and its requirement to save a person from Hell (by him believing in it), which had been thoroughly proven from both the Bible and the Glorious Quran, to be a fabricated lie [1]. Salvation verses like John 3:16 and others are all forgeries that were invented by liars 100s of years after the real Eesa, the real Messiah. Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus. Notice here Jesus' statements:
Matthew 9 12 Jesus heard them and answered, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor, but sick people do. 13 Go and learn what the Scriptures mean when they say, ‘Instead of offering sacrifices to me, I want you to be merciful to others.’I didn’t come to invite good people to be my followers. I came to invite sinners.”
Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Being Merciful to others makes you a good person. And Jesus didn't come for you if you are. Jesus didn't come to invite merciful and good people. They're already saved. They need no invitation. The Christian lie about one must accept that Jesus died on the cross for his/her sins is mandatory for their salvation, and that otherwise they'd be doomed to Hell is thoroughly destroyed in Matthew 9:12-13.
Matthew 9:12-13I have not come for you if you're a merciful Jew.
Three Isaiah 53 translation lies:
Three lies in translations of Isaiah 53, as further elaborated below in this table, that need to be clarified:
1- He was assigned a grave. This doesn't mean he was buried in it, because Jesus was never buried in any grave. He laid on the floor inside a tomb (cave-like structure), got healed and got up and left. He was never inside any coffin nor ever got buried inside the earth.
2- He was pierced for our sins. No, he was hurt (the word is not pierced or stabbed) because of "our"
(Jews only) sins and transgressions. If you drive with your family and get hit by a drunk driver and your baby ends up getting killed, your baby didn't die for his sin. Your baby died BECAUSE of his sin and transgression. Otherwise, you would not have driven on the same road that day if you knew the future.
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John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus
Early Church Fathers: Jesus never died for anyone's sins!
Sam Shamoun: The early fathers declared Jesus never died for any sin! Shamoun is realizing how full of forged lies & conjecture his historical Christianity is. They declared that Jesus never bore (carried) any sin for anyone on the cross.
Jesus never died for anyone's sins! He was placed on the cross BECAUSE of (not for) the Jews' sins, and Allah Almighty SAVED HIM. Read the detailed analysis on Isaiah 53, Psalm 91 and others at:
Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
3- In his death. It is talking about his sentencing to death and not actual death. It is also symbolic, because Jesus didn't even stay for 3 hours on the cross (2.a) and was never killed. Plus, Jesus begged GOD (Matthew 26:36-44) all night to save him from crucifixion and all hurt. all hurt.
Lies about Psalm 91:13:
Some polytheist trinitarian pagans say that Psalm 91:13 proves that Jesus was never crucified:
Psalm 91:13 You will tread on the lion and the adder, the young lion and the serpent you will trample under foot.
They say that Jesus treading (stomping on) the lion and the snake means that he defeated satan via the cross. Satan is called both lion and snake. So Jesus stomped on him by getting crucified (killed on the cross) and resurrecting from death. They also say the NT books such as Matthew and Luke that quote Psalm 91 for Jesus both claim that Jesus was killed on the cross.
14 Because he cleaves to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name. 15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him. 16 With long life I will satisfy him, and show him my salvation.
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Also, Jesus was only placed for 3 hours on the cross (2.a). They had to pull the plug on crucifixion because the Passover was about to begin, where 1/2 million Jewish pilgrims were to shortly start pouring into Jerusalem. I, Osama Abdallah, would have survived Jesus' crucifixion.
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Also, Jesus was never killed. He laid on the floor in the tomb, received medical treatment from the two Marys and other women, and then got up and left.
3- The books that say he was killed on the cross were written 200 to 400 years after Jesus. The majority of Christian historians and theologians claim this.
4- Psalm 91:15"...I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him." Clearly declares he will be saved from death.
Merciful Palestinian and Good Neighbor Parable:
5- Jesus said below in Luke 10:25-37, Matthew 9:12-13: If you're merciful, a good neighbor like the Palestinian Samaritan in Luke 10:33, and above all, GOD-Fearing (OT says Jesus was a slave of GOD and GOD-Fearing), then you have nothing to fear. "Do this, and you will live" Jesus said. That's it. Jesus even used good Palestinians in his parable. Dying on the cross is a developed Christian lie centuries after Jesus. It's a forgery.
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
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Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty. Sam Shamoun: If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity". It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal". Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist. Click to play video clip.
Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article. According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament. There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44). Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text. Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT. It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty. The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty (Not even Jesus was given the Book according to the Glorious Quran). We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:
Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:
The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet. The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:
Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe? Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Doesn't this prove that Islam is false? But he was preached!
The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa
(not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them.
Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1,
*] [2]
[3].
The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.
The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews
such as Yemenites and others say
Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself
pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it
with a double "l": Allah. Jews do call Him:
Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD
Almighty
Allah. See the following videos for Biblical
references and proofs. Also,
pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have
GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original Holy Name for
GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It
is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which
not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always
been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before
birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew. And Hebrew
is a developed language from Phoenician. See the
following links:
(Click to play videos)
Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)".
Sam Shamoun showed where portions of his OT is mixed between Hebrew and Aramaic writings. He also unintentionally proved that the Hebrew "ben" (son) is not the same as the Aramaic "bar" (wrongly gets translated as "son"). The correct and accurate translation is for "bar" is "the chosen pious one". Again, Allah Almighty has NO DIVINE SON. He considers the pious chosen ones as close BARS. The Aramaic and Arabic are the same in this one. See the ample verses and analysis in the video.