My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun regarding Jesus asking GOD
Almighty for forgiveness:
This article is a response to Mr. Sam Shamoun's rebuttal to my article.
He wrote:
Osama begins:
Let us look at Luke 23:33-35 from the NIV Bibles:
Luke 23
33 When they came to the place called the Skull,
there they crucified him, along with the criminals--one on his right, the other on his
left.
34 Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are
doing." [1] And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
35 The people stood watching, and the rulers even sneered at him. They said,
"He saved others; let him save himself if he is the Christ of God, the Chosen
One."
Footnotes
23:34 Some early manuscripts do not have this sentence.
Two things to notice here:
1- For those Christians who say that the Bible is perfect, it is obvious that the
historians and theologians of the NIV Bible disagree with them, because according to them,
Luke 23:34 is a doubtful verse. Please visit Most of the Bible's books and gospels were written by mysterious people!
This is according to the NIV Bible community. Another proof that most of the Bible is not
authentic nor reliable.
RESPONSE:
Osama is very inconsistent in how he handles the Holy Bible. When it is convenient,
Osama will turn to Bible prophecy to allegedly prove that Muhammad was Gods prophet.
Osama will then attack the Holy Bible when it clearly contradicts his beliefs as a Muslim.
This exposes how irrational and inconsistent Muslim apologists truly are.
My response:
I am not really being inconsistent. It's your funny Bible that is made up of 66+
different books and most of them were written by mysterious people according to the Bible's theologians. I
take the parts that agree with Islam as authentic and discard the parts that disagree with
Islam. You can call it "inconsistency" all you want, but as long as you
refuse to learn the Truth of Islam, you will always be blind and foolish and think of
those who don't buy your inconsistent Bible as foolish people, while the Bible itself is
the master of inconsistency and foolishness.
Jesus himself said otherwise as I will
show in a moment. Let me remind you that GOD in the Old Testament said that He will
put the Spirit of Fearing GOD Almighty in Jesus! Now any person with an atom of a
brain would immediately realize that Jesus can not be the Creator of the Universe:
1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his
roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the
Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD
(Jesus fearing his GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees
with his eyes, or
decide by what he hears with his ears;
Now for what Jesus himself said, let us look at few quotes:
"I do nothing of myself (From
the NIV Bible, John 8:28)"
"My Father (GOD) is greater than I (From the NIV Bible, John 14:28)"
"Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit (From the NIV Bible, Luke 23:46)"
"And Jesus said to him, Why do you call me good? No
one is good but God alone. (From the NIV Bible, Mark
10:18)"
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (From the NIV
Bible, Matthew 24:36)"
Do these quotes to a person with an atom of a brain suggest at all that Jesus is in the
same level as the Creator of the Universe?
I've written a detailed article showing how Jesus continously BEGGED GOD Almighty, and
declared that he had no Divine Will at:
Jesus had
no Divine Will according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?
Ten detailed sub sections in this article:
1- Jesus said he had no Divine Will. 2- Jesus' repetitive Prayers contradicted his very own teachings.
3- Jesus begged GOD (Matthew 26:36-44) Almighty for Mercy.
4- Jesus prostrated to GOD Almighty only once during his most desperate times! This
is hypocrisy by the way.
5- GOD Almighty Created pain and death, and yet, Jesus feared them. 6- The GOD of the O.T. Punishes to death those who
cursed HIS HOLY NAME. How could Jesus escape to Egypt from King Herod. 7- In original Hebrew, "son of GOD" literally
means "SERVANT OF GOD". See proofs.
8- What about the authority in Heaven and Earth that was given to Jesus?
9- None of Jesus' Miracles were unique in the Bible.
10- Conclusion.
Jesus is Yahweh the Son? See how Christians got this very wrong in the NT,
using Jesus' words himself!
Also, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1 John 2:22?
Doubting Thomas
couldn't raise
Jesus??
No way!!
He raised many
before
(Matthew
10:7-8):
Thomas raised
many people from the dead
(Matthew
10:7-8).
Yet, he and the disciples
could not raise Jesus back to life
after the crucifixion? Not only that,
but they all fled, and Thomas became the
"doubting Thomas"
because he did not believe that the man who
returned was Jesus. But did you not raise people from
the dead already, Thomas? What happened there?
You could've raised Jesus himself back to life with your own
hands! Yet, it was impossible for you to believe that
it was Jesus who returned? Why?
These alleged miracles are very loud!
If you raise people from the dead, then the entire land of
Palestine would've heard about it. Yet, nothing
recorded historically about them. So do we have here loud
miracles or loud lies?
Doubting Thomas supposedly said (in Greek???)
"My Lord
and my God"
to Jesus. The church thoroughly admits that NT is badly altered, and earliest copies of NT don't date before year 200.So not only the Aramaic original language of Jesus was never documented, hence his original sayings are permanently lost, but the Greek writings (a language Jesus never spoke) had been badly corrupted. Trinity and all its faulty analysis are based on writings that are totally off (different language and phrases spoken altogether) and utter nonsense. Yet, all believers were called "God", and
Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:
Jesus forbade people from
calling him "son of David" and "son of Abraham" (Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") bless Abraham everyday. Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."). He
said he is greater than them, and no one should call him son
of any of these two servants of GOD Almighty. Yet,
Jesus walked around and called himself son of Adam countless
times:
Trinitarians: Jesus is our Creator. Jesus: Why are you thinking such evil things?
Matthew 9:3-4 (CEV) 3 Some teachers of the Law of Moses said to themselves, “Jesus must think he is God!” 4 But Jesus knew what was in their minds, and he said, “Why are you thinking such evil things?
Mark 10:18 ""Why do you call me good ἀγαθόν (agathon)?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." Good = agathon ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς
So from people who opposed and followed Jesus, some from both sides thought he was claiming to be GOD Almighty. Jesus absolutely rejected this blasphemy and misunderstanding!
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
Jesus is the
resurrection
(John 11:25), but yet
does not know
when
the Hour of the resurrection will
come (Matthew
24:36)
[1],
and he had to cry, weep and
beg GOD
to resurrect Lazarus back to
life. And this proves he is our Creator?
And how is he exactly The Resurrection?
Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even
resurrect or
create a fly
on their own? This is one of
the Glorious Quran's
challenges
to the polytheists from mankind who
insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and
water, and idols. All are helpless.
All are worthless when compared to Allah
Almighty.
In the OT, Elisha and
many others also raised the dead:
2 Kings 4
32 Elisha arrived at the
woman’s house and went straight to his room,
where he saw the boy’s body on his bed. 33
He walked in, shut the door, and
prayed to the Lord.
34 Then he got on the bed and
stretched out over the dead
body,
with his mouth on the boy’s mouth, his eyes on
his eyes, and his hand on his hands. As he lay
there, the boy’s body became warm. 35 Elisha
got up and walked back and forth in the room,
then he went back and leaned over the boy’s
body. The boy sneezed seven times and
opened his eyes. 36 Elisha called out
to Gehazi, “Have the boy’s mother come here.”
Gehazi did, and when she was at the door, Elisha
said, “You can take your son.” 37 She came in
and bowed down at Elisha’s feet. Then she picked
up her son and left.
John 5:30 "I
cannot do anything on my own." (i.e., I am totally powerless. In other verses, Jesus could not even perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).
Bible's problematic hyperboles.
Jesus has, for example, caused Christians to
eat pork, and they're now even the world's
biggest pork consumers. But a closer
look at the text reveals that he never
allowed it and could never even DARE to
violate GOD Almighty by allowing it.
The last two chapters of the book of
Isaiah make an End of Time Prophecy
about the evil and immoral ones who will
be pork (pig's meat) eaters.
The Bible has
ample problems with its hyperbole and
excessive confusing metaphoric language,
to a point where we don't know what
Jesus actually means, and it has made
lawful things sinful and sinful things
lawful. Interestingly, people in
the NT called Jesus a fat
drunk,
because they observed him drinking too
much wine (alcohol) and eating too much.
He was a "gluttonous,
and a winebibber" (Matthew
11:19) [1]
[2].
This could've played a major role in the
nonsensical language that he was
uttering left and right. Only
Allah Almighty Knows best.
Ample more
examples are given in the link above.
Did Jesus ever claim to be God? (8 minutes)
John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus
Video: 1, 2. Sam Shamoun, the trinitarian barfoon, forgot that "GOD IS ONE" is mentioned countless times in his scriptures. Also, Jesus was also called "SLAVE OF GOD" in NT and OT. There is no Divine Son that is part of Allah Almighty. That's one of the several things Islam came to correct:
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
.
Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty. Sam Shamoun: If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity". It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal". Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist. Click to play video clip.
Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article. According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament. There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44). Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text. Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT. It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty. The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty. We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:
Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:
The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet. The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:
Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe? Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Doesn't this prove that Islam is false? But he was preached!
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") honor the Virgin Birth:
We Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") believe in the virgin birth of Isa
Al-Maseeh,
from our mother Mariam, peace be upon them both.
We also believe Isa performed many Miracles.
In fact, it was the Christians who doubted the
virgin birth. Islam came to cement it.
But Isa (eesa) was nonetheless a creation of GOD
Almighty, and a slave of GOD. Even the Old
Testament calls Jesus "Slave of GOD":
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
Sun Chips
Blasphemies:
Jesus said
Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son.
But the Old Testament thoroughly calls
Jesus the
slave of GOD[1]
and who also fears GOD.
Yes indeed, the Islamic
Isa (eesa) is the Messiah.
This is his special sonship. He is
also the Lord of his Mansion, which has
twelve thrones or fruits
[2].
He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul
(Prophet) in this regard. He is
also the
heir of GOD
on earth only. That's the limit of
his sonship. Otherwise, it is sun
chips! There is nothing GODly
about him. He is not our Creator.
With all of his glory and might, he
still remains a mere
abd (slave) of GOD
[1]
as all sons of GOD were also called
slaves of GOD.
See also:
Again,
could
"Jesus" and the disciples honestly even
resurrect or
create a fly
on their own? This is one of
the Glorious Quran's
challenges
to the polytheists from mankind who
insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust
and water, and idols. All are
helpless. All are worthless when
compared to Allah Almighty.
Sun Chips
oxymoron:
The polytheist trinitarian pagans'
oxymoron here is that they're making a
sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's
sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no
more than servants raised to honour")
with their blasphemies of inflating him
with hot air and making him the Creator
of the Universe.
1 John 2:22-23
[1]
church-written lie are discussed further down in details in
this table. Ironically, the Bible's own theologians
admit that
1 John contains forgeries
by church fathers.
Trinitarians: Jesus is our Creator. Jesus: Why are you thinking such evil things?
Matthew 9:3-4 (CEV) 3 Some teachers of the Law of Moses said to themselves, "Jesus must think he is God!" 4 But Jesus knew what was in their minds, and he said, “Why are you thinking such evil things?
Mark 10:18 ""Why do you call me good ἀγαθόν (agathon)?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." Good = agathon ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς
So from people who opposed and followed Jesus, some from both sides thought he was claiming to be GOD Almighty. Jesus absolutely rejected this blasphemy and misunderstanding!
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
We read in
the Bible that Prophets are servants and
Jesus is the Son
(Matthew 21:33-46).
Jesus is more than a Rasul
(Prophet). Jesus was
also called Abd (slave) of GOD
throughout the Old Testament, as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of
GOD.
Jesus' rule is only limited to
his Mansion.
Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by
twelve Thrones
(also called them 12 Fruits). Jesus being
King of kings
means that he is the King of his Mansion's
twelve thrones.
King of
kings
for Jesus does not refer
to the corrupt earthly kings
and thieves. They were offered to Jesus
before during his
temptation by satan, and Jesus ultimately refused them all. Jesus
is the king of the twelve thrones inside his Mansion.
Other people
in the OT were called King of kings also. So the
title is not even unique to Jesus.
Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1,*] [2] [3]. The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty. The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah. Jews do call Him: Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah. See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs. Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew. And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician. See the following links:
(Click to play videos)
Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)".
Sam Shamoun showed where portions of his OT is mixed between Hebrew and Aramaic writings. He also unintentionally proved that the Hebrew "ben" (son) is not the same as the Aramaic "bar" (wrongly gets translated as "son"). The correct and accurate translation is for "bar" is "the chosen pious one". Again, Allah Almighty has NO DIVINE SON. He considers the pious chosen ones as close BARS. The Aramaic and Arabic are the same in this one. See the ample verses and analysis in the video.
Please also visit: The definition of "Son of God" in Islam.
In the Bible,
"the
Son" refers to the
Messiah, - the
Ultimate Messenger to the Jews. Son in
their time meant Servant of GOD. Allah
Almighty also explained it precisely like this
in the Glorious Quran:
"....servants raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
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This is what we will be called in
Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize
"Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but
Says that they are no more than pious"....servants
raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
Nothing Divine about them except that they exist
with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.
But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all
Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah
Almighty Alone and none else. You can
visit:
Trinity Crucified!
100s of verses prove trinity is false.
Jesus
healed others only after getting
permissions from GOD Almighty. His
wishes were sometimes
denied.[1] [2]
Except GOD Alone!
Jesus rejectedἀγαθόν.
Jesus forbade anyone
from calling him ἀγαθόν.
He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.
And other great figures in the Old Testament
were also called:
1-
GOD (El) of
other people.
2- Son of GOD.
3- Begotten Son of GOD.
4- GOD's First Born.
5- GOD's Heir and Heirs (for believers).
6- GODly name with Yahweh and El attached to the name.
7- King of Kings (called by Yahweh Himself in the OT).
8- All believers are GODs (Elohim) and Sons of GOD (Beni Elohim).
Is Jesus
"God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?"
[1]
King James
Version Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and
of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in
thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up
his Son Jesus,
sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
New King
James Version Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of
the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in
your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.
Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up
His Servant Jesus,
sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.
"Servant" here is slave. Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2],
the
same word used for the Jews' slaves, and all slaves in general,
throughout
the Bible [2].
Jesus, the abd of GOD, is also the slave of GOD in the NT.
In Arabic also it's the same. My name
Osama Abdallah,
which means
Osama slave of Allah (GOD). Slave is a subject of GOD. A
servant is
independent. A servant provides services. He/she can quit serving
without consequences and can even kick you out of their territory.
But
a
slave (ABD) is totally OWNED.
The Servants are the
Prophets of Israel. But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the
Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet.
Jesus' rule is
only limited to
his Mansion. Jesus also said that
this Mansion is ruled by
twelve Thrones (also called them 12
Fruits).
Prophets are Servants,
Jesus is the Son
(Matthew 21:33-46).
Jesus is only
the Lord of the Jews' Mansion.
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God
was with authority
(same Greek word for
satan's rule
[ [1]
[2]
[3])."
The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in
Revelation.....
Revelation 20:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and
judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were
beheaded for the ;witness
of Jesus,
and for
the word of God...
Revelation 1:2
2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the
word of God and
the testimony
of Jesus Christ
Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad. I took
the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi. Indeed,
the Word of GOD Almighty
ENCOMPASSES Jesuss,
because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares.
The Romans had to
fake his crucifixion due to
Passover issues:
Click to play
video [1].
Matthew 12:40:"shall
be buried deep in the heart of earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of
the whale."
Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore, alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!
This Prophecy is a lie!
Jesus laid on the floor, got healed, and got up and
left. He was
never
inside any coffin
nor ever got buried. Also, because 100s
of thousands of pilgrims were coming to Jerusalem for the Passover, the
Romans had to rush his "crucifixion" and bring him down. The soldiers
were
even denied food due to lack of time. Jesus never got
crucified: [1]
[2]
[3]
[4].
The OT and NT clearly spell it out. He was
saved.
Matthew 27:16-17: There were two Jesuses! Not one. Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:
[004:156] That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge; [004:157] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) know ledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- [004:158] Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
Divine Setup for Conjecture:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.
"... but so it was made to appear to them..." (Quran 4:157)
"...The Bibles' Christ was put on the cross for three hours. Any one of us would've survived this silly crucifixion. Your human body, when faced with death, can become 10+ times stronger, more resilient, more resistant and more stubborn than normal. This is what would enable you, for example, to lift an entire truck with your bare hands if your precious child was under it. Similarly, if you were put on the cross for three silly hours, your body would've survived it. A soldier was placed on the cross for 63 hours and still lived to tell the world about it." (Source)
Again, a Divine Setup for Conjecture.
Was Jesus Christ Crucified?
At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed this debate and destroyed Christianity!
This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from the Bible's New Testament that Jesus Christ was never crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead. This 3-hour debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.
Psalm 91 promises Jesus will never get hurt or die. Satan in the NT challenged Jesus on Psalm 91. Yashua (salvation) is the last word in Psalm 91, and it also happens to be one of Jesus' names in the New Testament.
Here is my shortened version video. Dr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones. But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video. See also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian brother on my blog. You're welcomed to join in.
Christianity's Salvation Lie:
Because Christianity's scriptures didn't get documented for 200+ years after Jesus, the Church and Christians had developed and invented the crucifixion lie and its requirement to save a person from Hell (by him believing in it), which had been thoroughly proven from both the Bible and the Glorious Quran, to be a fabricated lie [1]. Salvation verses like John 3:16 and others are all forgeries that were invented by liars 100s of years after the real Eesa, the real Messiah. Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus. Notice here Jesus' statements:
Matthew 9 12 Jesus heard them and answered, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor, but sick people do. 13 Go and learn what the Scriptures mean when they say, ‘Instead of offering sacrifices to me, I want you to be merciful to others.’I didn’t come to invite good people to be my followers. I came to invite sinners.”
Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Being Merciful to others makes you a good person. And Jesus didn't come for you if you are. Jesus didn't come to invite merciful and good people. They're already saved. They need no invitation. The Christian lie about one must accept that Jesus died on the cross for his/her sins is mandatory for their salvation, and that otherwise they'd be doomed to Hell is thoroughly destroyed in Matthew 9:12-13.
Matthew 9:12-13I have not come for you if you're a merciful Jew.
Three Isaiah 53 translation lies:
Three lies in translations of Isaiah 53, as further elaborated below in this table, that need to be clarified:
1- He was assigned a grave. This doesn't mean he was buried in it, because Jesus was never buried in any grave. He laid on the floor inside a tomb (cave-like structure), got healed and got up and left. He was never inside any coffin nor ever got buried inside the earth.
2- He was pierced for our sins. No, he was hurt (the word is not pierced or stabbed) because of "our"
(Jews only) sins and transgressions. If you drive with your family and get hit by a drunk driver and your baby ends up getting killed, your baby didn't die for his sin. Your baby died BECAUSE of his sin and transgression. Otherwise, you would not have driven on the same road that day if you knew the future.
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John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus
Early Church Fathers: Jesus never died for anyone's sins!
Sam Shamoun: The early fathers declared Jesus never died for any sin! Shamoun is realizing how full of forged lies & conjecture his historical Christianity is. They declared that Jesus never bore (carried) any sin for anyone on the cross.
Jesus never died for anyone's sins! He was placed on the cross BECAUSE of (not for) the Jews' sins, and Allah Almighty SAVED HIM. Read the detailed analysis on Isaiah 53, Psalm 91 and others at:
Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
3- In his death. It is talking about his sentencing to death and not actual death. It is also symbolic, because Jesus didn't even stay for 3 hours on the cross (2.a) and was never killed. Plus, Jesus begged GOD (Matthew 26:36-44) all night to save him from crucifixion and all hurt. all hurt.
Lies about Psalm 91:13:
Some polytheist trinitarian pagans say that Psalm 91:13 proves that Jesus was never crucified:
Psalm 91:13 You will tread on the lion and the adder, the young lion and the serpent you will trample under foot.
They say that Jesus treading (stomping on) the lion and the snake means that he defeated satan via the cross. Satan is called both lion and snake. So Jesus stomped on him by getting crucified (killed on the cross) and resurrecting from death. They also say the NT books such as Matthew and Luke that quote Psalm 91 for Jesus both claim that Jesus was killed on the cross.
14 Because he cleaves to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name. 15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him. 16 With long life I will satisfy him, and show him my salvation.
1-
Also, Jesus was only placed for 3 hours on the cross (2.a). They had to pull the plug on crucifixion because the Passover was about to begin, where 1/2 million Jewish pilgrims were to shortly start pouring into Jerusalem. I, Osama Abdallah, would have survived Jesus' crucifixion.
2-
Also, Jesus was never killed. He laid on the floor in the tomb, received medical treatment from the two Marys and other women, and then got up and left.
3- The books that say he was killed on the cross were written 200 to 400 years after Jesus. The majority of Christian historians and theologians claim this.
4- Psalm 91:15"...I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him." Clearly declares he will be saved from death.
Merciful Palestinian and Good Neighbor Parable:
5- Jesus said below in Luke 10:25-37, Matthew 9:12-13: If you're merciful, a good neighbor like the Palestinian Samaritan in Luke 10:33, and above all, GOD-Fearing (OT says Jesus was a slave of GOD and GOD-Fearing), then you have nothing to fear. "Do this, and you will live" Jesus said. That's it. Jesus even used good Palestinians in his parable. Dying on the cross is a developed Christian lie centuries after Jesus. It's a forgery.
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
.
Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty. Sam Shamoun: If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity". It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal". Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist. Click to play video clip.
Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article. According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament. There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44). Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text. Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT. It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty. The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty. We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:
Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:
The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet. The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:
Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe? Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Doesn't this prove that Islam is false? But he was preached!
The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa
(not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them.
Jesus'
Original Name:
Prophet Jesus' original name was
Eesa,
as this is also his Islamic name. The article (Eesa) also gives ample Hebrew references and proofs. Even in
Latin,
it is Iesu, and in
Greek it is Iesus. There is also a
great deal of evidence that Jesus spoke and
preached in Arabic. Not only that, but
Greek wasn't even that popular in Palestine.
Islam's claims are very strongly supported.
See proofs below.
Did early
Christians preach Prophet Muhammad in Rome?
Did the early
believers preach Prophet Muhammad in Corinth,
Antioch, Rome and all other places?
Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, was the Jews'
Messiah and final Prophet. In both the
Glorious Quran and the Dead Sea Scrolls,
Ahmed was prophesied to come.
Ahmed in the Quran is Prophet Muhammad's
prophetic name. Also, see below the Dead
Sea Scroll image. The New Testament too
predicts the coming of three:
So did the
early believers preach the coming of Prophet
Ahmed or Muhammad? The answer is quite
possible, but Muhammad would've been phase 2 for
them and not phase 1. Jesus was the early
believers' immediate
Prophet, not Muhammad. And all of
the details that they had were about Jesus, not
Muhammad. It is also important to know
that the following
seven Roman Emperors
have thoroughly
burned all (burnt all) of the early believers'
writings:
1. Nero
(54-68)
2. Domitian (81-96)
3. Marcus Aurelius (161-180)
4. Septimius Severus (193-211; up to a
point)
5. Maximinius I Thrax (235-8; up to a
point)
6. Trajanus Decius (249-251)
7. Valerian (253-260)
What we have
today from "gospels" and "New Testament" were
written 100 years to 300 years after Jesus'
departure from this earth. So, the current
writings that we have are not original writings.
Also, to appease the Roman Empire's 3-headed
pagan religion and practices, the pagan 3-headed
trinity was invented [1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5].
Many lies had been fabricated after the original
writings were all lost. The Jews and
Christians of Arabia, however, did have writings
that predicted the coming of Prophet Muhammad.
These were some of the original texts that
survived.
The early believers were expecting an Arabian Prophet. The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:
Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe? Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Doesn't this prove that Islam is false? But he was preached!
Proofs that early Christian believers'
title was
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more")
from the Jews' and Christians sources themselves. Also,
Greek wasn't even the first language in Palestine, nor was it even hardly
spoken by the natives there.
Also, ample proofs that
Jesus also spoke and
preached in Arabic, and
there were many early manuscripts written in Arabic that spoke about the
coming of Prophet Muhammad in details.
Arabic is estimated to date back
8000 to 20000 years by non-Muslim
researchers, and had always been the first language in the entire lands
of the Middle East, North and Central Africa.
Prophet Muhammad foretold,
by the name,
in the previous Scriptures.
We still have texts today and from
the Bible itself and outside the Bible that tell about the coming of
Prophet Muhammad and Islam as the Servant of GOD Almighty and the New
Religion and Covenant of GOD Almighty, respectively.
In the Bible,
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"),
Salamays,
Mushlams, Mushlems,
Mushlimana
are the Believers' original title
[1].
Islam came to restore the original Faith
[1].
Prophet Muhammad in the previous Scriptures.
Prophet Muhammad was thoroughly foretold in the
Bible, and his prophetic Name,
"Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea
Scrolls,
and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious
Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this
very Name, Ahmed [1]
[2].
1- What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible? How
is it defined
in Islam? (see
point #5 below) How does the Bible really define it?
2- What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible?
3-
Jesus had to match
Melchizedek
in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament.
See this
text-debate (*)
between me and a Christian. Jesus' Miracles and
Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he
needed to be in according to
Melchizedek. He had to be
“in according to Melchizedek”
as the Bible specifically says. See
Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20
[2].
Who is
Melchizedek?
According
to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had
"no father and no mother", and
"no beginning and no end"
(Genesis
14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20)
[2].
The Bible literally says that. Jesus had to be similar
and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God"
doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.
Also again, see this
text-debate (*)
between me and a Christian.
4- Does the
Bible say that
Yahweh
created Jesus?
Yes it does (*).
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God
was with authority
(same Greek word for
satan's rule (*)
[2]
[3])."
1 John 2:22-23 is another
church-written lie. Again, ironically, the Bible's own
theologians admit that
1 John contains forgeries
by church fathers.
Christians often quote the following verses to
prove that Islam is the Anti-Christ:
1 John 2
22 Who is a liar but he that
denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that
denieth the Father and the Son.
23 No one who denies the
Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has
the Father also.
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") firmly believe in the
Messiah and his virgin birth miracle.
Islam cemented the
virgin birth of Jesus
belief after it was fading away. Christians admit this.
Also, the Glorious Quran claims that sons of GOD title was used
for servants raised to honor:
Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran.
They are
"....no more than servants raised to honor.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
"Messiah" is the sonship:
Jesus said
Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son.
Son here means he is the Messiah. The Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the
slave
of GOD
[1]
and who also fears GOD.
Yes
indeed, the Islamic
Isa (eesa) is
the Messiah.
This is his special sonship. He is also the Lord of his
Mansion, which has
twelve thrones or fruits
[2].
He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard.
He is also
heir of GOD on earth
only. That's the limit of his sonship. Otherwise, it
is sun chips! There is nothing GODly about him. He
is not our Creator. With all of his glory and might, he
still remains a mere
abd (slave) of GOD
[1]
as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD.
See also:
The polytheist
trinitarian pagans' oxymoron here is that they're
making a sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's
sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no
more than servants raised to honour")
with their blasphemies of inflating him with hot air
and making him the Creator of the Universe.
Could Jesus and the disciples
honestly even resurrect or
create a fly
on their own? This is one of
the Glorious Quran's
challenges
to the polytheists from mankind who
insist on deifying flesh and blood,
dust and water, and idols. All
are helpless. All are
worthless when compared to Allah
Almighty.
Did Jesus ever claim to be God? (8 minutes)
John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus
Video: 1, 2. Sam Shamoun, the trinitarian barfoon, forgot that "GOD IS ONE" is mentioned countless times in his scriptures. Also, Jesus was also called "SLAVE OF GOD" in NT and OT. There is no Divine Son that is part of Allah Almighty. That's one of the several things Islam came to correct:
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
.
5- What
does the Glorious Quran say about the
“Father” and
“Son” titles:
The Quran is against the
exaggerated and inflated meanings of the words, which ultimately
the polytheistic religion of trinity was born out of.
Allah Almighty Said:
"And they say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten offspring."
Glory to Him! they are (but)
servants raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)"
The
Family of Allah
أهل الله
in Islam, and the
Majestic "We":
.......
In regards to your question,
there are two legitimate answers for it:
1- GOD Almighty can and
does refer to Himself as WE and I. So
the plural We can and does refer to Allah
Almighty Alone.
2- In Allah Almighty's
Realm, there are the People of Allah. Even
our Hadiths call them
AHLU ALLAHأهل
الله
(Family of Allah)).
Go to
www.google.com , and search for إن
لله - تعالى -
أهلين
من الناس، قالوا: يا رسول الله من هم؟
قال: هم أهل القران، أهل الله
وخاصته
The Hadith in Arabic translates as:
Allah Almighty has
AHLEEN (families) أهلين
from mankind. They asked: "O
Messenger of Allah, who are they?"
He said: They are the People of the
Quran; the Family/People of GODأهل
الله ,
and they are His Special Ones
خاصته.";
This is what we will be
called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also
does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the
Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no
more than pious"....servants
raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26))".
Nothing Divine about them except that they
exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in
Heaven. But as far as Divine Authority
and Power, all Divine Authority and Power
belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none
else. You can visit:
Trinity Crucified!
100s of verses prove trinity is false.
Jesus
healed others only after getting
permissions from GOD Almighty. His
wishes were sometimes
denied.[1]
[2]
"....servants
raised to honour.
Iblis, who later became satan, used to be
from
AHLU ALLAH
أهل الله
(Family of Allah) when he was a pious
Servant. /span>
But because he and his
followers disobeyed GOD Almighty, they were
cursed and kicked out of the COMMUNITY OF
GOD Almighty:
So it is quite possible that Allah Almighty
uses the WE to refer to Him and His Servants
that HE spoke with directly and Commanded
directly. But even in that ca/span>se,
the WE still also means Allah Almighty Alone
(the Majestic We), because Allah
Almighty is theOne
and Only Decision Maker,
and there is none other besides Him.
I hope this helps, insha'Allah.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
So people did call each
others “Son” and “Daughter” of “GOD”. But in all reality, they
are no more than Servants of GOD raised to honor.
Here are some Bible facts
regarding "FATHER" and "SON":
Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى):
See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78.
In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal
Guardian". المولى is derived from the root word
ولي .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah
Almighty.
FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي ,
وليهما and خليلا). We further read the
following in the Bibles:
Isaiah 41:8/font>
"But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you
descendants of Abraham my friend,
Chronicles 20:7
Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land
before your people Israel and give it forever to the
descendants of Abraham your friend?
James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham
believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,"
and he was called God's friend.
So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is
equal to being
GOD Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare
this to the following from the Holy Quran:
[002:257]
Allah is the friend (ولي)
and patron of those who believe. He brings
them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those
who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their
friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths
of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire.
They will stay there forever.
[003:122]
(And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and
almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend
and Protector (وليهما)?
In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!
[004:125]
Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole
self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the
true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend
(خليلا).
So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the
Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD
Almighty:
1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.
Also, BEGET = CHOSE.
King James Bible Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD
hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I
begotten thee.
Allah Almighty used اصطفاك اصطفيتك يصطفي اصطفى اصطفينا
to mean to
Choose a Servant in Noble Verses
27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75,
35:32, 38:47, 39:4 in the Glorious Quran.
So clearly Islam is in harmony with GOD Almighty being our:
- Guardian
- Friend
- Protector
- And the One who Chose us.
And we definitely believe that
Isa
(Jesus) is the Messiah.
One last important point: Nowhere in the Bible is
Jesus ever called "from the Seed of
GOD"
or "the Seed of GOD". We
do have "Jesus is from the seed
of David" (Psalm
132:10-11, Romans 1:3).
But never from GOD!
GOD has no seed according to both the Bible and the Quran.
Therefore, the claim that Islam is the Anti-Christ is false.
So,
is Islam the anti-Christ
system according to
1john
2:22?
No it isn't. Here are some Quran and Bible facts
regarding "FATHER" and "SON" in more details:
(a)-
Allah Almighty is the
Believers' only Guardian (المولى):
See Noble Verses
8:40, 22:13, 22:78. In Arabic we say
ولي الأمر
, which means "The Legal Guardian". المولى
is derived from the root word
ولي
.ولي
also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty, as in the
following point.
(b)-
FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran
(ولي
,وليهما
andخليلا):
We further read the following in the
Bibles:
Isaiah 41:8
"But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you
descendants of Abraham my friend,
Chronicles 20:7
Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before
your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of
Abraham your friend?
James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God,
and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he
was called God's friend.
So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the
Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".
Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:
[002:257]
Allah is the friend (ولي)
and patron of those who believe. He brings them out
of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not
believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them
out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be
the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.
[003:122] (And
remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell
out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector
(وليهما)?
In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!
[004:125] Who
can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to
God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith?
For God did take Abraham for a friend
(خليلا).
So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD
Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means
that GOD Almighty:
1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.
Please visit the following link to
further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and
definitions:
[027:059]Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on
his servants whom
He has chosen
اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?-
God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?
27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده
الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون
[003:033]
God did choose
اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham,
and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال
ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين
[003:042]
Behold! the angels said: "O
Mary! God hath chosen thee
اصطفاكand purified thee- chosen thee above
the women of all nations.
3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله
اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين
[007:144] (God)
said: "O
Moses! I have chosen thee
اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I
(have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then
the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give
thanks."
7:144 قال ياموسى اني اصطفيتك على الناس برسالاتي وبكلامي فخذ ما
اتيتك وكن من الشاكرين
[022:075]
God chooses
يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for
God is He Who hears and sees (all things).
22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن
الناس ان الله سميع بصير
[035:032]Then We have given the Book for
inheritance to such of Our Servants as
We have chosen
اصطفينا: but there are among them some who
wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who
are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest
Grace.
35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا
من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله
ذلك هو الفضل الكبير
[038:047]They were, in Our sight, truly, of
the company of the
Elect
المصطفينand the Good.
38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار
[039:004]Had God wished to take to Himself
an (actual) son, He could have chosenلاصطفى
whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to
Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the
Irresistible.
39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى
مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار
Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about
when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty
Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't
know. Please visit:
Trinity Crucified!
100s of verses prove trinity is false.
Jesus healed others only after getting
permissions from GOD Almighty. His
wishes were sometimes
denied.[1]
[2]
Jesus spelled it out clearly
that he knew NOT. And as to calling GOD
Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an
ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:
1- Rab - Lord, Father (you are
the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father).
2- Wali - Guardian.
In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD
Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and
Wali. But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual
Father. This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as
idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery. No Jew is
actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal
marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty! Yet, the Jews use
metaphors like these. Islam came to straighten all of this out
and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no
daughter. Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell
if we were His perfect sons and daughters?? No imperfect being
could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or
daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):
[005:018](Both) the Jews and the Christians
say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why
then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are
but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth,
and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion
of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him
is the final goal (of all)"
The Romans
had to
fake his crucifixion
due to Passover issues:
Click to play
video [1].
Matthew 12:40:"shall
be buried deep in the heart of earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of
the whale."
Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore, alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!
This Prophecy is a lie!
Jesus laid on the floor, got healed, and got up and
left. He was
never
inside any coffin
nor ever got buried. Also, because 100s
of thousands of pilgrims were coming to Jerusalem for the Passover, the
Romans had to rush his "crucifixion" and bring him down. The soldiers
were
even denied food due to lack of time. Jesus never got
crucified: [1]
[2]
[3]
[4].
The OT and NT clearly spell it out. He was
saved.
Matthew 27:16-17: There were two Jesuses! Not one. Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:
[004:156] That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge; [004:157] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) know ledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- [004:158] Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
Divine Setup for Conjecture:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.
"... but so it was made to appear to them..." (Quran 4:157)
"...The Bibles' Christ was put on the cross for three hours. Any one of us would've survived this silly crucifixion. Your human body, when faced with death, can become 10+ times stronger, more resilient, more resistant and more stubborn than normal. This is what would enable you, for example, to lift an entire truck with your bare hands if your precious child was under it. Similarly, if you were put on the cross for three silly hours, your body would've survived it. A soldier was placed on the cross for 63 hours and still lived to tell the world about it." (Source)
Again, a Divine Setup for Conjecture.
Was Jesus Christ Crucified?
At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed this debate and destroyed Christianity!
This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from the Bible's New Testament that Jesus Christ was never crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead. This 3-hour debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.
Psalm 91 promises Jesus will never get hurt or die. Satan in the NT challenged Jesus on Psalm 91. Yashua (salvation) is the last word in Psalm 91, and it also happens to be one of Jesus' names in the New Testament.
Here is my shortened version video. Dr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones. But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video. See also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian brother on my blog. You're welcomed to join in.
Christianity's Salvation Lie:
Because Christianity's scriptures didn't get documented for 200+ years after Jesus, the Church and Christians had developed and invented the crucifixion lie and its requirement to save a person from Hell (by him believing in it), which had been thoroughly proven from both the Bible and the Glorious Quran, to be a fabricated lie [1]. Salvation verses like John 3:16 and others are all forgeries that were invented by liars 100s of years after the real Eesa, the real Messiah. Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus. Notice here Jesus' statements:
Matthew 9 12 Jesus heard them and answered, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor, but sick people do. 13 Go and learn what the Scriptures mean when they say, ‘Instead of offering sacrifices to me, I want you to be merciful to others.’I didn’t come to invite good people to be my followers. I came to invite sinners.”
Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Being Merciful to others makes you a good person. And Jesus didn't come for you if you are. Jesus didn't come to invite merciful and good people. They're already saved. They need no invitation. The Christian lie about one must accept that Jesus died on the cross for his/her sins is mandatory for their salvation, and that otherwise they'd be doomed to Hell is thoroughly destroyed in Matthew 9:12-13.
Matthew 9:12-13I have not come for you if you're a merciful Jew.
Three Isaiah 53 translation lies:
Three lies in translations of Isaiah 53, as further elaborated below in this table, that need to be clarified:
1- He was assigned a grave. This doesn't mean he was buried in it, because Jesus was never buried in any grave. He laid on the floor inside a tomb (cave-like structure), got healed and got up and left. He was never inside any coffin nor ever got buried inside the earth.
2- He was pierced for our sins. No, he was hurt (the word is not pierced or stabbed) because of "our"
(Jews only) sins and transgressions. If you drive with your family and get hit by a drunk driver and your baby ends up getting killed, your baby didn't die for his sin. Your baby died BECAUSE of his sin and transgression. Otherwise, you would not have driven on the same road that day if you knew the future.
Also visit:
John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus
Early Church Fathers: Jesus never died for anyone's sins!
Sam Shamoun: The early fathers declared Jesus never died for any sin! Shamoun is realizing how full of forged lies & conjecture his historical Christianity is. They declared that Jesus never bore (carried) any sin for anyone on the cross.
Jesus never died for anyone's sins! He was placed on the cross BECAUSE of (not for) the Jews' sins, and Allah Almighty SAVED HIM. Read the detailed analysis on Isaiah 53, Psalm 91 and others at:
Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
3- In his death. It is talking about his sentencing to death and not actual death. It is also symbolic, because Jesus didn't even stay for 3 hours on the cross (2.a) and was never killed. Plus, Jesus begged GOD (Matthew 26:36-44) all night to save him from crucifixion and all hurt. all hurt.
Lies about Psalm 91:13:
Some polytheist trinitarian pagans say that Psalm 91:13 proves that Jesus was never crucified:
Psalm 91:13 You will tread on the lion and the adder, the young lion and the serpent you will trample under foot.
They say that Jesus treading (stomping on) the lion and the snake means that he defeated satan via the cross. Satan is called both lion and snake. So Jesus stomped on him by getting crucified (killed on the cross) and resurrecting from death. They also say the NT books such as Matthew and Luke that quote Psalm 91 for Jesus both claim that Jesus was killed on the cross.
14 Because he cleaves to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name. 15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him. 16 With long life I will satisfy him, and show him my salvation.
1-
Also, Jesus was only placed for 3 hours on the cross (2.a). They had to pull the plug on crucifixion because the Passover was about to begin, where 1/2 million Jewish pilgrims were to shortly start pouring into Jerusalem. I, Osama Abdallah, would have survived Jesus' crucifixion.
2-
Also, Jesus was never killed. He laid on the floor in the tomb, received medical treatment from the two Marys and other women, and then got up and left.
3- The books that say he was killed on the cross were written 200 to 400 years after Jesus. The majority of Christian historians and theologians claim this.
4- Psalm 91:15"...I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him." Clearly declares he will be saved from death.
Merciful Palestinian and Good Neighbor Parable:
5- Jesus said below in Luke 10:25-37, Matthew 9:12-13: If you're merciful, a good neighbor like the Palestinian Samaritan in Luke 10:33, and above all, GOD-Fearing (OT says Jesus was a slave of GOD and GOD-Fearing), then you have nothing to fear. "Do this, and you will live" Jesus said. That's it. Jesus even used good Palestinians in his parable. Dying on the cross is a developed Christian lie centuries after Jesus. It's a forgery.
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Remember:
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment."
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? They were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Really??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles?
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Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty. Sam Shamoun: If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity". It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal". Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist. Click to play video clip.
Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article. According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament. There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44). Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text. Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT. It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty. The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty. We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:
Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:
The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet. The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:
Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe? Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Doesn't this prove that Islam is false? But he was preached!
The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt. The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa
(not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them.
Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1,
*] [2]
[3].
The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.
The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews
such as Yemenites and others say
Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself
pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it
with a double "l": Allah. Jews do call Him:
Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD
Almighty
Allah. See the following videos for Biblical
references and proofs. Also,
pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have
GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original Holy Name for
GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It
is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which
not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always
been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before
birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew. And Hebrew
is a developed language from Phoenician. See the
following links:
(Click to play videos)
Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)".
Sam Shamoun showed where portions of his OT is mixed between Hebrew and Aramaic writings. He also unintentionally proved that the Hebrew "ben" (son) is not the same as the Aramaic "bar" (wrongly gets translated as "son"). The correct and accurate translation is for "bar" is "the chosen pious one". Again, Allah Almighty has NO DIVINE SON. He considers the pious chosen ones as close BARS. The Aramaic and Arabic are the same in this one. See the ample verses and analysis in the video.
To put it simply, Jesus' use of the imperative shows that he was actually demanding
that the Father forgive the individuals responsible for dividing up his clothing.
My response:
The point here is that Jesus didn't show any proof of him being GOD Almighty. And
according to the quotes I mentioned above, Jesus clearly declared that he was not GOD
Almighty or part of GOD Almighty. You're only assuming that he is demanding and
asking. Your whole logic is awkward! You don't make any sense Mr. Shamoun.
He wrote:
He wasn't simply making an entreaty. We need to point out that by saying that Christ
commanded his Father to perform a specific function, we are not implying that there is
competition within the Godhead. Rather, we are simply highlighting the point that the Lord
Jesus has the authority to make demands since he is equal to the Father in essence and is
the object of the Father's infinite and eternal love. Yet, these demands are not done out
of a dictatorial spirit, but out of a spirit of mutual love and the assurance that
whatever Christ asks for he shall definitely receive:
"When Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went out to meet him, but Mary
stayed at home. Lord, Martha said to Jesus, if you had been here, my
brother would not have died. But I know that even now God will give you whatever you
ask." John 11:20-22
"So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, Father, I thank
you that you have heard me. I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the
benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me."
John 11:41-42
"I will not speak with you much longer, for the prince of this world is coming. He
has no hold on me, but the world must learn that I love the Father and that I do
exactly what my Father has commanded me. Come now; let us leave." John 14:30-31
"As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. If you
obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's
commands and remain in his love." John 15:9-10
"Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my
glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the
world." John 17:24
Now in order to establish the case that the Lord Jesus wasn't simply asking or
encouraging the Father to forgive them, but making a demand based on his relationship to
the Father as the divine Son, we need to read all that Luke has to say about the person
and work of Christ. Once this is done, it becomes quite evident that Jesus is indeed the
Sovereign Lord of all creation, the Father's eternally beloved Son, and because of this he
is able to make certain demands of the Father.
My response:
Mr. Shamoun, let me ask you this: Since you trinitarians are so big on the
godhead and trinity dogmas, then why aren't these terms even mentioned in the Bible?
Let alone why aren't they elaborated on in the Bible? You call trinity
"The Holy Trinity", while the word itself doesn't even exist in the Bible!
You're making conclusions out of nonsense. All of your trinity believe is
based on man-made conclusions. I feel sorry for you.
He wrote:
For instance, the Lord Jesus claims that sinners receive salvation, repentance and
forgiveness in his name. In other words, Jesus states that he has both the ability and the
authority to grant salvation, repentance and forgiveness to all that believe in him:
"He said to them, This is what I told you while I was still with you:
Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets
and the Psalms. Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.
He told them, This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead
on the third day, and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached IN HIS NAME
to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. You are witnesses of these things."
Luke 24:44-48
"I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting, the Lord replied. Now get
up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a
witness of what you have seen of me and what I will show you. I will rescue you from your
own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn
them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may
receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith IN ME."
Acts 22:16-18
My response:
There is a serious forgery in Luke 24:44-48! It says that it is written that
Jesus will die and resurrect on the third day. Where in the Old Testament do you
have that?! Show me one Old Testament verse that prophesized about Jesus' third day
resurrection Mr. Shamoun?
In fact, in my article Answering Isaiah 53, I
clearly proved that the Old Testament actually confirms the Noble Quran's claims about
Jesus never got crucified! Let alone dying and resurrecting on the third day!
As to the book of Acts, it was written by mysterious author. Read what the
theologians of the NIV Bible said about this book:
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside
the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion
that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible
Commentary, page 1643)"
So based on some conclusion, you're willing to die for defending the idea that the Book
of Acts was the True Word of GOD Almighty? If the book was inspired by GOD Almighty, then
how come it wasn't mentioned in the book itself to help us filter it out from the many
other "Satanic false books"? Are we sure that this book too is not a man-made
Satanic book?
After all, its just a conclusion, isn't it?
Beside, what evidence are they talking about?! The New Testament wasn't even
documented on paper until 150-300 years (depending on what Christian you talk to) after
Jesus. So unless the Book/Gospel was signed by its author, there is no way we would
know for sure that it was indeed his book from the first place, let alone considering it
as the True Living Word of GOD.
The Apostles of the Lord reiterate this very point in their preaching:
"Salvation is found in no one else, for there is NO OTHER NAME under heaven
given to men by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12
"God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give
repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel." Acts 5:31
"All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives
forgiveness of sins through HIS NAME." Acts 10:43
My response:
It's not "The Apostles of the Lord", because the book of Acts was written by
a mysterious person or persons as shown above.
He wrote:
On a couple of occasions, the Lord Jesus forgave the sins of individuals on the basis
of his own authority, something which the crowds knew only God could do:
"When Jesus saw their faith, he said, Friend, your sins are forgiven.
The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, Who is this
fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone? Jesus knew
what they were thinking and asked, Why are you thinking these things in your hearts?
Which is easier: to say, "Your sins are forgiven," or to say, "Get up and
walk"? But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive
sins ... He said to the paralyzed man, I tell you, get up, take your mat
and go home. Immediately he stood up in front of them, took what he had been lying
on and went home praising God. Everyone was amazed and gave praise to God. They were
filled with awe and said, We have seen remarkable things today." Luke
5:20-26
"Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven--for she loved
much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little. Then Jesus said to her,
Your sins are forgiven. The other guests began to say among themselves,
Who is this who even forgives sins? Jesus said to the woman, Your
faith has saved you; go in peace." Luke 7:47-50
My response:
Let us look at the authenticity of the book of Luke:
"The author's name does not appear in the book, but much
unmistakable evidence points to Luke. (From the NIV
Bible Commentary, page 1529)"
Again, we don't know for sure whether it was Luke or not who wrote the "Gospel of
Luke" since his name doesn't appear in the Book. The Gospel itself seems to be a
compromising one to the Word of GOD. Let us look at the following:
"Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the
beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent
Theophilus, (Luke 1:3)"
Few problems with this Gospel from the quote above:
1- The author was not inspired, and knew for sure that he was not inspired by GOD
Almighty to write the Book since he didn't mention about any divine inspiration, and he
said "...since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the
beginning..." Where do we see GOD's inspiration in this?
2- The author wrote it for the purpose of "his most excellent Theophilus."
Since when we compromise GOD Almighty and document His Holy Words for the purpose of other
higher (in rank) human beings?
I say it again, I hope you see the real danger in making these assumptions when you are
willing to DIE for the fact that such Gospel is the actual True Word of GOD Almighty!
Also, beside, what evidence are they talking about?! The New Testament wasn't
even documented on paper until 150-300 years (depending on what Christian you talk to)
after Jesus. So unless the Book/Gospel was signed by its author, there is no way we
would know for sure that it was indeed his book from the first place, let alone
considering as the True Living Word of GOD.
Further from brother Vipor Poison; may Allah Almighty
always be pleased with him:
Luke 1:3
Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it
seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,
If Theophilus existed in either the 2nd or the 4th centuries then how could the writer
of this gospel be the same Luke who is supposed to be with Jesus in the 1st century.
Jesus also granted his followers authority to perform miracles, cast out demons and
forgive peoples sins in his name:
"When Jesus had called the Twelve together, he gave them power and authority
to drive out all demons and to cure diseases, and he sent them out to preach the kingdom
of God and to heal the sick." Luke 9:1-2
"Master, said John, we saw a man driving out demons IN YOUR
NAME and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us. Do not stop
him, Jesus said, for whoever is not against you is for you." Luke
9:49-50
"The seventy-two returned with joy and said, Lord, even the demons submit to
us IN YOUR NAME. He replied, I saw Satan fall like lightning from
heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome
all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. However, do not rejoice that the
spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven." Luke
10:17-20
My response:
Again, the gospel or book of Luke is not authentic. It certainly isn't authentic
according to the NIV Bible Theologians and Historians.
He wrote:
Christ specifically claimed that he had come to save sinners:
"But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, Look, Lord! Here and now I
give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I
will pay back four times the amount. Jesus said to him, Today salvation has
come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. For the Son of Man
came to seek and to save what was lost." Luke 19:8-10
This salvation stemmed from Christs death on the cross for sinners:
"In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the
new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you." Luke 22:20
And:
"It is written: And he was numbered with the transgressors; and I
tell you that this must be fulfilled IN ME. Yes, what is written about me is reaching
its fulfillment." Luke 22:37
Jesus quotes Isaiah 53:12 in connection with his impending death on the cross. This is
not the only place in Lukes writings where Isaiah 53 is viewed as a messianic
prophecy:
"Now an angel of the Lord said to Philip, Go south to the road--the desert
road--that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza. So he started out, and on his way he
met an Ethiopian eunuch, an important official in charge of all the treasury of Candace,
queen of the Ethiopians. This man had gone to Jerusalem to worship, and on his way home
was sitting in his chariot reading the book of Isaiah the prophet. The Spirit told Philip,
Go to that chariot and stay near it. Then Philip ran up to the chariot and
heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. Do you understand what you are
reading? Philip asked. How can I, he said, unless someone explains
it to me?" So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. The eunuch was reading
this passage of Scripture: He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb
before the shearer is silent, so he did not open his mouth. In his humiliation he was
deprived of justice. Who can speak of his descendants? For his life was taken from the
earth. The eunuch asked Philip, Tell me, please, who is the prophet talking
about, himself or someone else? Then Philip began with that very passage of
Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus. Acts 8:29-35
My response:
Again, as I clearly showed above, the books of Luke and Acts were written by mysterious
authors(s) and are not authentic. We can't take such nonsense and declare that these
are the Holy Words and Inspirations of GOD Almighty.
He wrote:
A careful examination of Isaiah 53 shows that the person in question, namely
Yahwehs servant, is going to suffer on behalf of the sins of Gods people.
Gods servant is going to offer his life on behalf of the people of God in order to
make atonement for them:
"Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no
beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire
him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely
he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by
God, smitten by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was
crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his
wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to
his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed
and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and
as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. By oppression and
judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off
from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken. He
was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had
done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him
and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will
see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his
knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with
the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the
transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors."
Isaiah 53:1-12
By quoting Isaiah 53, Jesus is clearly identifying himself as the very One whose death
procures salvation and the forgiveness of sins for Gods elect. It is little wonder
that Christ could demand that the Father forgive those Roman soldiers, seeing that Jesus
was being crucified in order to guarantee the forgiveness of such sinners!
The interesting part about all this is that the Old Testament says that sinners receive
salvation and forgiveness in Yahwehs name, and that redemption comes from Yahweh
alone!
"For the sake of YOUR NAME, O LORD, forgive my iniquity, though it
is great." Psalm 25:11
"Praise the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits - who forgives all
your sins and heals all your diseases," Psalm 103:2-3
"O Israel, put your hope in the LORD, for with the LORD is unfailing love and
with him is full redemption. He himself will redeem Israel from all their sins."
Psalm 130:7-8
"You are my witnesses, declares the LORD, and my servant whom I
have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no
god was formed, nor will there be one after me. I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from
me there is no savior." Isaiah 43:10-11
"I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, FOR MY OWN SAKE, and
remembers your sins no more." Isaiah 43:25
"Declare what is to be, present it - let them take counsel together. Who foretold
this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is
no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me."
Isaiah 45:21
"But I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt. You shall acknowledge
no God but me, no Savior except me." Hosea 13:4
My response:
For the reader's convenience, I will paste my detailed rebuttal of Isaiah 53 and all of
the Old and New Testament verses that are associated with it and show clearly to the
reader that Isaiah 53 actually agreed with the Noble Quran's claims:
Did Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of
Jesus?
Trinitarian Christians claim that Chapter Isaiah 53 in the Bible
confirms Trinity. This article proves that Chapter Isaiah 53 along with Isaiah
52:13, John 19:36-37 and Psalm 34:20 prove without a doubt that Islam's claim about Jesus
peace be upon him never died on the cross and was raised to Allah Almighty is
indeed the Truth. Let us look at the Chapter of Isaiah 53
in the Bibles:
1
Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD
been revealed?
2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of
dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance
that we should desire him.
3
He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and
familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we
esteemed him not.
4
Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we
considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
5
But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was
crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his
wounds we are healed.
6
We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his
own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7
He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he
was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he
did not open his mouth.
8
By oppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of
his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of
my people he was stricken.
9
He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich
in his death [The word "death"
does not exist in the original Hebrew text. Here is what the literal translation
says: "And it appointeth with the wicked his grave, And with the rich [are] his
high places"....This is verified at this link: (Young's Literal Translation)],
though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10
Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong
his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
11
After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light and be
satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their
iniquities.
12
Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will
divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death
[This is clarified in details down in this article. It
doesn't at all mean that he will die. The literal translation says: "Because
that he exposed to death his soul"....This is verified again at this link: (Young's Literal Translation)],
and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made
intercession for the transgressors.
Isaiah 53 perfectly agrees with Islam:
Let us look at this Verse: "After
the suffering of his soul, he will see the light and be satisfied; (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 53:11)"
The idea of this servant who will get pierced is NOT
that he will DIE for people's sins. Notice that in Isaiah
53:9 it clearly says "He
was assigned a grave with the wicked", which means that
he will have a grave assigned to his name, but it doesn't necessarily mean that his dead
body will be in it.
The Bible's New Testament refutes the "piercing"
story:
If we were to take the Bible literally, then we will see clear contradictions in the
crucifixion story. Let us look at what the Bible says about piercing Jesus:
John 19:30-40:
30
When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is
finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
31
Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a
special Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the
Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down.
32
The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man
who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other.
33
But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead,
they did not break his legs.
34
Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear,
bringing a sudden flow of blood and water.
35
The man who saw it has given testimony, and his testimony is true.
He knows that he tells the truth, and he testifies so that you also may believe.
36
These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "Not
one of his bones will be broken,"
37
and, as another scripture says, "They will look on the one
they have pierced."
38
Later, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. Now
Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly because he feared the Jews. With Pilate's
permission, he came and took the body away.
39
He was accompanied by Nicodemus, the man who earlier had visited
Jesus at night. Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds.
40
Taking Jesus' body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices,
in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs.
In the above verses, the mysterious author suggests that Jesus'
bones were reserved because the soldiers did not break his knees, hence this fulfills the
Scriptures' prophecy that GOD will protect his body that not even a single bone would
break.
Let us look at the obvious contradiction in the above verses:
Taken from the above verses:
"These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: 'Not one
of his bones will be broken,' and, as another scripture says, 'They will look
on the one they have pierced.' (From the NIV Bible,
John 19:36-37)"
"he protects all his bones, not one of them will
be broken. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm
34:20)"
Notice in Psalm 34:20, it says that GOD Almighty will protect "all
his bones". So, not even an inch from his bones will be damaged
according to the Scriptures.
As you might know, the crucifixion back then was done by nailing to the cross the hands
and the ankles or the feet. If GOD Almighty was going to protect Jesus' body that
not even a single bone will be broken, then how would the crucifixion and the death of
Jesus be possible then?!
My question to all Christians is:
How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on
the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the
feet's bones?!
And for the parts of the Bible that suggest that Jesus actually died (which clearly
contradict the Verses that I presented above), please visit What parts of the Bible do Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") believe are closest
to the Truth?
Important Note: Both Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") and Christians believe that the grave of Jesus today is
empty. It doesn't have his body in it, because both believe that he was raised to
Heaven. The difference between Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") and Christians in this issue is that Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more")
believe that Jesus never died on the cross but was raised to GOD Almighty.
Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross and was RESURRECTED to GOD Almighty.
This is, however, not supported at all and was never foretold in the Old Testament.
I elaborated more and provided more evidence from both the Bible and the Noble Quran that
support Islam's claim regarding this issue down in this article.
In Isaiah 53, all it says is that he will get pierced which again
it never mentioned the cross nor did it ever mention any sort of resurrection, not just in
this chapter, but also throughout the Old Testament. If this servant is indeed Jesus
peace be upon him, then him being pierced and never dying seems to perfectly support the
Islamic teaching about Prophet Jesus peace be upon him NEVER died on the cross for
anyone's sins.
Also notice that Isaiah 53:11 clearly states that "he will see the light". What
is that light? Could it be the light of Heaven? Probably be raised to Heaven?
Christians do believe that Jesus peace be upon him was indeed raised to Heaven, and
so do Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") too. However, we see no mention throughout the ENTIRE Old Testament
including obviously Isaiah 53 any mention of resurrection, nor any mention for
resurrection on the 3rd day or any day. So does this mean that the servant will get
pierced (by being put on the cross perhaps) and then get raised without dying?
Let us look at the following Noble Verse from the Noble Quran
(The Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") Holy Scripture): "That they rejected Faith;
That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge; That they said (in
boast): 'We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.'
But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to
appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain)
knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. Nay,
Allah raised him up Unto Himself; and Allah Is Exalted in Power,
Wise. And there is none of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) But must
believe in him (Jesus) Before his death; And on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will
be a witness Against them. (The Noble Quran,
4:156-159)"
Now compare the Noble Verses to Isaiah 52:13 "...he will be raised and lifted up....".
Notice that Isaiah 52:13 did not say "....he will be RESURRECTED and lifted
up...." Not even once, did the Old Testament predict for the foretold Servant
(Jesus) to be raised to GOD Almighty after death. There absolutely no mention of any
sort of resurrection in the Bible's Old Testament what so ever.
According to Islam, Jesus peace be upon him might have been put on the cross and might
have got "pierced", but he never died.
According to Islam, he was raised to Allah Almighty and saved from death. We
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") believe that Prophet Jesus peace be upon him will come back again to earth and fight the army of Satan and defeat it, and
then the Judgment Day will come. According to Islam, every person (including Jesus)
must taste death (The Noble Quran, 44:56).
The point is that Chapter Isaiah 53 agrees a lot more with
Islam's claims than with the current Christianity's claims, and it is confirmed in Isaiah
52:13.
There are several other Noble Verses in the Noble Quran that talk
about Jesus such as the following:
"So peace is upon me [Jesus] the day I was born, the day
that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life. (The Noble Quran, 19:33)"
To see detailed explanation of this Noble Verse and about Jesus peace be upon him in
Islam, please visit the following links:
The Bible's New Testament refutes the "piercing"
story:
As I mentioned above, if we were to take the Bible literally, then we will see clear
contradictions in the crucifixion story. Let us look at what the Bible says about
piercing Jesus:
John 19:30-40:
30
When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is
finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
31
Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a
special Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the
Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down.
32
The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man
who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other.
33
But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead,
they did not break his legs.
34
Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear,
bringing a sudden flow of blood and water.
35
The man who saw it has given testimony, and his testimony is true.
He knows that he tells the truth, and he testifies so that you also may believe.
36
These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "Not
one of his bones will be broken,"
37
and, as another scripture says, "They will look on the one
they have pierced."
38
Later, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. Now
Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly because he feared the Jews. With Pilate's
permission, he came and took the body away.
39
He was accompanied by Nicodemus, the man who earlier had visited
Jesus at night. Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds.
40
Taking Jesus' body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices,
in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs.
In the above verses, the mysterious author suggests that Jesus'
bones were reserved because the soldiers did not break his knees, hence this fulfills the
Scriptures' prophecy that GOD will protect his body that not even a single bone would
break.
Let us look at the obvious contradiction in the above verses:
Taken from the above verses:
"These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: 'Not one
of his bones will be broken,' and, as another scripture says, 'They will look
on the one they have pierced.' (From the NIV Bible,
John 19:36-37)"
"he protects all his bones, not one of them will
be broken. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm
34:20)"
Notice in Psalm 34:20, it says that GOD Almighty will protect "all
his bones". So, not even an inch from his bones will be damaged
according to the Scriptures.
As you might know, the crucifixion back then was done by nailing to the cross the hands
and the ankles or the feet. If GOD Almighty was going to protect Jesus' body that
not even a single bone will be broken, then how would the crucifixion and the death of
Jesus be possible then?!
My question to all Christians is:
How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on
the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the
feet's bones?!
And for the parts of the Bible that suggest that Jesus actually died (which clearly
contradict the Verses that I presented above), please visit What parts of the Bible do Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") believe are closest
to the Truth?
So what about Isaiah 53:12? Doesn't it suggest that
Jesus will actually die?
Let us look at Isaiah 5:12 "....because he poured out his life
unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors....." This verse doesn't clearly state that the predicted servant will ACTUALLY
DIE. When we study carefully the poetical literature of Isaiah 53, and study
carefully the claims made above, we see that "him
pouring his life unto death" means that the goodness
that he will bring from GOD Almighty, will be the light that will bring his people from
darkness (death) into light (goodness). He will defeat death (darkness).
Isaiah 5:12 does not state that he will die. It clearly states that he will cover
shadow or overwhelm death by his life.
If I pour my cup of cranberry juice on the white carpet, then I
would create a big red spot on the carpet. I wouldn't be changing the juice into
carpet, or the carpet into juice. No, I would simply defeat the whiteness of the
carpet by the color of the juice. That's what pouring the juice on the carpet means.
Same thing applies with the servant pouring his life unto death.
GOD Almighty considers evil doing and not believing in Him as equal to death.
Important Note: In many Verses in the Bible, we see that GOD Almighty used in Hebrew , Sheol, the word for "hell" as the same Hebrew word for
"death". That is why the Christian Jehovah Witnesses don't believe in
"Hell Fire" as punishment for the unbelievers. They believe that
"Hell" is actual "Death". So to put it in other words, Isaiah
53:12 could also mean that the Servant (Jesus) will over shadow or cover "hell
(death)" with "life (good)". So whoever believes in that Servant from
the People of Israel will be saved from hell or death.
Have Isaiah 53:12 clearly said "and
he will die for people's sins and resurrect after 3 days",
then we would have nothing to argue about!
So Jesus pouring his life (good) unto death (bad), means that
whomever believes in his message from the People of Israel will defeat bad (darkness) and
will be saved, and will have Jesus' life (goodness). This perfectly matches what
Islam claims about our beloved Prophet Jesus peace be upon him.
If indeed Isaiah 53 is another proof that Jesus peace be upon him
is the Creator of this Universe, then explain to me why Isaiah 53 and the entire Old
Testament failed to prophesies about Jesus' 3rd day resurrection?
Most Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of GOD and GOD Himself, came to earth, died
for our sins and resurrected after 3 days. If Isaiah 53 was indeed a Revelation from
GOD Almighty, and Jesus peace be upon him was indeed GOD Himself, then this means that GOD
Almighty predicted that He will get "pierced" for people's sins in Isaiah 53.
There are however problems with this Christian theory:
1- Jesus never by his own will died for anyone's sins. In fact, Jesus himself refused
the idea of getting crucified and begged his GOD to take his soul before Jesus experiences
the painful death of the cross. "Going a little farther,
he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, 'My Father, if it is possible, may this
cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.' (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 26:39)" This contradicts the Christian theory that GOD will be
pierced for the sin of others because if Jesus had it his way, he wouldn't get killed nor
even get hurt on the cross.
2- No where in the Old Testament do we see a Prophecy about Jesus' resurrection, let
alone his resurrection on the 3rd day. If GOD indeed predicted that He would get
crucified in the Old Testament, then how come He only predicted the first half of the
event and not the second half? The resurrection on the 3rd day is a very important
event in the Christian Theology, and is one of the main points that Jews and Christians
debate about.
Jesus' Crucifiction and Resurrection:
As I mentioned above, most Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of GOD and GOD
Himself, came to earth, died for our sins and resurrected after 3 days. Isaiah 53's
failure to predict the resurrection of the pierced person left behind it a great deal of
controversy!
If GOD Almighty were to get crucified for people's sins, then Isaiah 53 should've
mentioned it, because after Jesus' crucifiction in the Bible, his body disappeared.
The Jews believe that Jesus' disciples and/or mother stole the body fearing that his
body will be further humiliated (since he was nailed on the cross). So to protect the
dignity of Jesus and his body, they "stole" his body.
The Christians believe that Jesus the "GOD Almighty" resurrected to Heaven!
Have Isaiah 53 mentioned that he will resurrect after 3 days to Heaven, then the issue
would be resolved. But as I said above, Isaiah 53 doesn't talk at all about any form of
resurrection of the person who is going to die for people's sins, nor any Verse in the
entire Old Testament either. Isaiah 53 does not Prophecies about the coming of Jesus peace
be upon him.
This is very important, because only GOD Almighty could resurrect people. The reason
why the Old Testament never prophesied about any resurrection is because GOD Almighty
never intended to send anyone to die for anyone's sins, nor did GOD Almighty promise that
He will die and resurrect!
Important Note: Since the Bible
was not documented until 150 to 300 years after Jesus peace be upon him, and during his
ministry, nothing was ever documented on paper regarding his deity, we Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") believe
that a great deal of corruption had entered the Bible. The following reasons will clarify
the Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more")' position:
7- Jesus according to
Islam never got killed on the cross. Allah Almighty saved him. As I
mentioned in point #5, we only believe in Jesus' quotes as closest to the Truth in the New
Testament. Islam's claims regarding Allah Almighty saving Jesus seem to fit with
Jesus peace be upon him asking Allah Almighty to save him from crucifiction (Matthew
26:39).
He wrote:
Amazingly, Luke also shows that the first Christian believers prayed to Jesus in the
same exact way that the OT believers prayed to Yahweh! For example, OT believers prayed to
God by calling on his name:
"Abraham planted a tamarisk tree in Beersheba, and there he called upon the
name of the LORD, the Eternal God." Genesis 21:33
"Moses and Aaron were among his priests, Samuel was among those who called on his
name; they called on the LORD and he answered them." Psalm 99:6
"And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved; for on Mount
Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the LORD has said, among the survivors
whom the LORD calls." Joel 2:32
This is precisely what the first Christians did, namely, call on the name of the Lord
Jesus!
"In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a
vision, Ananias! Yes, Lord, he answered. The Lord
told him, Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from
Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and
place his hands on him to restore his sight. Lord, Ananias
answered, I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done
to YOUR SAINTS in Jerusalem. And he has come here with authority from the chief
priests to arrest all who call on YOUR NAME. But the Lord said to
Ananias, Go! This man is my chosen instrument to carry MY NAME before the
Gentiles and their kings and before the people of Israel. I will show him how much he must
suffer for MY NAME. Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his
hands on Saul, he said, Brother Saul, the Lord-Jesus, who appeared to you on the
road as you were coming here--has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with
the Holy Spirit Saul spent several days with the disciples in Damascus. At
once he began to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God. All those
who heard him were astonished and asked, Isn't he the man who raised havoc in
Jerusalem among those who call on THIS NAME? And hasn't he come here to take them
as prisoners to the chief priests?" Acts 9:10-17, 20-21
"A man named Ananias came to see me. He was a devout observer of the law and
highly respected by all the Jews living there. He stood beside me and said, Brother
Saul, receive your sight! And at that very moment I was able to see him. Then he
said: The God of our fathers has chosen you to know his will and to see the
Righteous One and to hear words from his mouth. You will be his witness to all men of
what you have seen and heard. And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and
wash your sins away, calling on HIS NAME. When I returned to Jerusalem and
was praying at the temple, I fell into a trance and saw the Lord speaking.
Quick! he said to me. Leave Jerusalem immediately, because they will
not accept your testimony ABOUT ME. Lord, I replied, these men
know that I went from one synagogue to another to imprison and beat those who believe
IN YOU. And when the blood of YOUR martyr Stephen was shed, I stood there
giving my approval and guarding the clothes of those who were killing him. Then the
Lord said to me, Go; I will send you far away to the Gentiles." Acts
22:12-21
My response:
Aside from the fact that the book of Acts is an unauthentic book as I clearly showed
above from the NIV Bible's theologians quotes, but also Mr. Shamoun fell to realize that
the word "Lord" doesn't necessarily mean GOD Almighty. "Lord" is
normally used for someone who is in leadership position. We even call drug dealers
as "drug lords". So these verses don't prove anything about Jesus being
the Creator of the Universe. Jesus was certainly the Jew's Messiah and Leader.
But he was not the Creator of the Universe.
He wrote:
Luke records instances where the first disciples prayed to Jesus directly:
"Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us
the whole time the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from John's
baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a
witness with us of his resurrection. So they proposed two men: Joseph called
Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias. Then they prayed, Lord, you know
everyone's heart. Show us which of these two you have chosen to take over this
apostolic ministry, which Judas left to go where he belongs." Acts 1:21-25
Note here that the first disciples testify to the omniscience of the Lord Jesus,
stating quite unambiguously that Christ knows everyones heart!
And:
"While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, Lord Jesus, receive my
spirit. Then he fell on his knees and cried out, Lord, do not hold this
sin against them. When he had said this, he fell asleep." Acts 7:59-60
My response:
Again, doubtful verses from the doubtful book of Acts. Also, please visit: Do People and Angels bowing
down to Jesus in Worship really prove that he is the Creator of the Universe?See how the word "Worship" used for
Jesus doesn't even exist in the original Greek Bibles. The Trinitarian English
translations are nothing but hoaxes and deceptions. The article responds to Matthew 15:9 and other
English mistranslated verses in the Bible.
Stephen prays to the Lord Jesus in heaven to receive his spirit and asks the Lord to
forgive those who were stoning him. Now compare this with the following OT citation:
"Into your hands I commit my spirit; redeem me, O LORD, the God of
truth." Psalm 31:5
Even more amazing is that Stephen prayed to Jesus in a manner similar to the way Jesus
prayed to the Father while hanging on the cross:
"Jesus said, Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are
doing. And they divided up his clothes by casting lots ... Jesus called out with
a loud voice, Father, into your hands I commit my spirit. When he had
said this, he breathed his last." Luke 23:34, 46
Please do note that it is the same inspired author who recorded both Jesus and
Stephens final prayers. Hence, even though Christ himself prayed, Luke and the early
Church could still view Jesus as the source of salvation and as the focus of their
worship!
My response:
This is a ridiculous conclusion Mr. Shamoun. It doesn't prove anything!
Like I asked earlier: Since you trinitarians are so big on the godhead and trinity dogmas,
then why aren't these terms even mentioned in the Bible? Let alone why aren't they
elaborated on in the Bible? You call trinity "The Holy Trinity", while the
word itself doesn't even exist in the Bible! You're making conclusions out of
nonsense. All of your trinity believe is based on man-made conclusions. I feel
sorry for you.
He wrote:
Furthermore, the Father himself uses the imperative in a context where Christs
essential, abiding and divine glory as Gods Son comes to the forefront:
"About eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and
went up onto a mountain to pray. As he was praying, the appearance of his face
changed, and his clothes became as bright as a flash of lightning. Two men, Moses and
Elijah, appeared in glorious splendor, talking with Jesus. They spoke about his departure,
which he was about to bring to fulfillment at Jerusalem. Peter and his companions were
very sleepy, but when they became fully awake, they saw HIS GLORY and the two men
standing with him. As the men were leaving Jesus, Peter said to him, Master, it
is good for us to be here. Let us put up three shelters - one for you, one for Moses and
one for Elijah. (He did not know what he was saying.) While he was speaking, a
cloud appeared and enveloped them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud. A voice
came from the cloud, saying, This is MY SON, whom I have chosen; LISTEN TO HIM (autou
akouete). When the voice had spoken, they found that Jesus was alone. The
disciples kept this to themselves, and told no one at that time what they had seen."
Luke 9:28-36
The verb "Listen," akouete, is a 2nd person present active
plural imperative. The disciples are commanded by God to obey Jesus because he is
Gods Son. Being Gods unique Son, Christ is both personally distinct from the
Father who sent him and equal to him in essence and nature. Is it any wonder that Christ,
the beloved Son of God, could also use the imperative in his prayer to make certain
demands of his Father?
My response:
Mr. Shamoun, you utterly failed to see that most of the Bible is a third-party
narration! Luke 9:28-36 spoke about a very serious event that took place, which
Jesus speaking with Moses and Elijah. But who spoke these verses? Were they
inspired? Or were they some gibrish nonsense written by somebody?
Let us look at the authenticity of the book of Luke:
"The author's name does not appear in the book, but much
unmistakable evidence points to Luke. (From the NIV
Bible Commentary, page 1529)"
Again, we don't know for sure whether it was Luke or not who wrote the "Gospel of
Luke" since his name doesn't appear in the Book. The Gospel itself seems to be a
compromising one to the Word of GOD. Let us look at the following:
"Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the
beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent
Theophilus, (Luke 1:3)"
Few problems with this Gospel from the quote above:
1- The author was not inspired, and knew for sure that he was not inspired by GOD
Almighty to write the Book since he didn't mention about any divine inspiration, and he
said "...since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the
beginning..." Where do we see GOD's inspiration in this?
2- The author wrote it for the purpose of "his most excellent Theophilus."
Since when we compromise GOD Almighty and document His Holy Words for the purpose of other
higher (in rank) human beings?
I say it again, I hope you see the real danger in making these assumptions when you are
willing to DIE for the fact that such Gospel is the actual True Word of GOD Almighty!
Also, beside, what evidence are they talking about?! The New Testament wasn't
even documented on paper until 150-300 years (depending on what Christian you talk to)
after Jesus. So unless the Book/Gospel was signed by its author, there is no way we
would know for sure that it was indeed his book from the first place, let alone
considering as the True Living Word of GOD.
Further from brother Vipor Poison; may Allah Almighty
always be pleased with him:
Luke 1:3
Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it
seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,
If Theophilus existed in either the 2nd or the 4th centuries then how could the writer
of this gospel be the same Luke who is supposed to be with Jesus in the 1st century.
Excellent questions about Trinity from
"Ghostwriter" to Christians:
The following is an email I received from "Ghostwriter";
may Allah Almighty further Guide him to the Truth of Islam.
Note: "PBUH!"
means "peace be upon him", which is something Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") always say after a
Prophet's name.
From: Ghostwriter
To: "Osama Abdallah"
Subj: Letter from a Christian who agrees with you and cites with gratitude Quran 2:62
Date: 1/18/2003 6:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time
*Thank you* for all your excellent work on the web site. Those of us who followed
Jesus (PBUH!) first and then came upon the Noble Quran know that there is one great
religion, and that Jesus (PBUH!) and Muhammad (PBUH!) were both messengers of that
religion.
Questions and observations I have for fellow Christians who have not yet actually read
the Noble Quran include the following. Perhaps you could post them on your site.
BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN HE WHOM THE APOSTLES FOLLOWED:
1- Where, specifically, in the Gospel does Jesus (PBUH!)
mention the Trinity?
(If you find no such reference from his lips to a god residing in three persons -- and
you will not -- then perhaps you will be moved to consider the following questions:)
2- How could Jesus (PBUH!) possibly have omitted to mention
something of such extraordinary importance?
* How could the authors of the four Gospels have made the same
extraordinary omission?
(For no direct reference to the Trinity appears in any chapter or verse of any of the
four Gospels. It is a patching-on from a later era.)
3- Why does Jesus (PBUH!) in the Lord's prayer address the
Lord as "Father" and then refer to the Father's children throughout as
"Us" and "We," instead of separating himself from the rest of the
children of God, as the Trinity would seem to demand?
4- (And here, brothers and sisters, is the big
question, the question that takes no small degree of courage to address
honestly:) If redemption through the blood of Christ,
that one member of the Trinity, is all that is necessary for salvation, how are we to
explain the many, many occasions in the Gospel that Jesus (PBUH!) details the necessity of
submitting directly to the One God -- without ever mentioning the role of his (Jesus',
PBUH!) redeeming blood?
Brothers and sisters: Are these not extraordinary teachings? Are they not central to
the ministry of Jesus (PBUH!)? And must we not confront dozens of them in order to defend
the Trinity and the notion of the sacrificial Christ?
I am thinking, specifically, of:
1. His instruction to "Love the Lord your God with all your
heart, with all your soul, with all your mind." (Matthew 22:27.) -- Jesus
[PBUH!] identifies this submission to the One God as the *supreme* commandment, and yet
for some reason he makes no mention within it of the sacrificial Christ or to one god in
three persons, which are supposedly central to his ministry! Quite an oversight! Or are we
to assume that Jesus [PBUH!] never actually uttered these words about the supreme
commandment?
2. His parable of the Prodigal Son. This contains no reference whatsoever to the
sacrificial Christ, or to any intermediary whatsoever for salvation. And the parable
certainly makes no reference to the repentant son returning from his sinful journey to a
father who takes the form of three persons. He returns to ONE father, not three. Surely we
must either conclude that this, the most celebrated of the parables, has nothing to do
with the Trinity or with the notion of a sacrificial Christ -- or, if we wish to retain
the Trinity and the notion of a sacrificial Christ, we must conclude that this is not an
authentic teaching of Jesus [PBUH!]. Brothers and sisters, fellow Christians -- which is
it to be?
3. His instruction to become as children (humble, trusting, submitting to the Lord) in
order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. (See Matthew 18:3.) There is no mention here of the
sacrificial Christ as necessary to this entry to the Kingdom, and certainly no mention of
one god in three persons! Again: Are we to believe that this is not an authentic teaching
of Jesus [PBUH!]? We must assume such a position if we wish to support the Trinity and the
notion of a sacrificial Christ.
4. His insistence on the importance of the individual's development of personal faith,
without intermediaries, in the One God. This, my brothers and sisters, is Islam! If that
word frightens us, or if we wish to make ourselves feel more comfortable with the actual
content of this divine ministry, sidestepping for the moment its verbal labels, we may
call it "Jesus' ministry" or "Jesus' teachings." (PBUH!) But his
ministry is manifestly one of submission to the One God, and we must think long and hard
about the consequences of rejecting it in its true form. There are dozens of examples of
such Gospel teachings about the development of STRONG individual faith WITHOUT
INTERMEDIARIES, among them Matthew 6:23, 7:7, 17:20, Mark 11:23, Luke 9: 61-62, Luke 15:8,
etc. etc. -- and yet there is no mention in any of these or the many other such passages
of the sacrificial Christ or of one god in three persons! Is not this a remarkable fact?
How are we to account for it?
Brothers and sisters, I ask you as one who has closely studied the Gospel of Jesus
(PBUH!) for thirty years: What kind of faith can we claim to be developing through the
religion that bears this man's name, if such faith is at variance with what he actually
taught? Why, in other words, did Jesus (PBUH!) bother to teach his followers -- you and I,
brothers and sisters -- of the growth of the mustard seed, of the woman who seeks for the
ten silver pieces, of the impossibility of being fit for the Kingdom of God for one who
sets his hand to the plough and then keeps looking back -- why did he pronounce all these
extraordinary exhortations to PERSONAL, UNMEDIATED faith in the One God, if all of them
are to be superseded by his own unique personal role as a member of the Trinity and his
personal blood-sacrifice for a sinful humanity? Again, we must choose whether we are to
accept the Trinity and the notion of a sacrificial Christ, or we must choose to accepts
the teachings of Jesus (PBUH!) concerning personal faith in the One God.
It is not a difficult choice, brothers and sisters.
There are, we would all agree, many corruptions in the New Testament. There are many
points where the various texts contradict themselves or send strange messages patched on
in later years. Yet if we read the texts carefully, we can identify those portions of the
text that illuminate Jesus' actual ministry on earth. It is clearly a ministry that
preaches submission to the One God.
Brothers and sisters -- seek carefully out the words of the man we have for so long
called the Lord, and remember his words to us: "Why do you say Lord, Lord, and not do
what I say?"
This is an excellent question!
Ghostwriter
He wrote:
Here is another example of Christ making demands or issuing commands and getting them
answered:
"Father, GLORIFY (doxason) your name! Then a voice came
from heaven, I have glorified it, and will glorify it again. The crowd that
was there and heard it said it had thundered; others said an angel had spoken to him.
Jesus said, This voice was for your benefit, not mine." John 12:28-30
Doxason is a 2nd person aorist active imperative singular verb. Note that the
Father responds immediately to his Son's prayer!
These examples clearly demonstrate that Christ is indeed the Sovereign Lord of all
creation.
My response:
How can Jesus be the "Sovereign Lord of all creation" when he glorified his
GOD Almighty in John 12:28 that you mentioned above, and GOD had put the spirit of fearing
GOD Almighty in him:
1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his
roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the
Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD
(Jesus fearing his GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees
with his eyes, or
decide by what he hears with his ears;
(From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 11:1-3)
Again, I've written a detailed article showing how Jesus
continously BEGGED GOD Almighty, and declared that he had no Divine Will at:
Jesus had
no Divine Will according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?
Ten detailed sub sections in this article:
1- Jesus said he had no Divine Will. 2- Jesus' repetitive Prayers contradicted his very own teachings.
3- Jesus begged GOD (Matthew 26:36-44) Almighty for Mercy.
4- Jesus prostrated to GOD Almighty only once during his most desperate times! This
is hypocrisy by the way.
5- GOD Almighty Created pain and death, and yet, Jesus feared them. 6- The GOD of the O.T. Punishes to death those who
cursed HIS HOLY NAME. How could Jesus escape to Egypt from King Herod. 7- In original Hebrew, "son of GOD" literally
means "SERVANT OF GOD". See proofs.
8- What about the authority in Heaven and Earth that was given to Jesus?
9- None of Jesus' Miracles were unique in the Bible.
10- Conclusion.
He wrote:
Since the NT shows that salvation is granted in the name of Christ, while the OT says
it is in Yahwehs name from which salvation is derived, the Lord Jesus must therefore
be Yahweh God! There is simply no other way around this.
My response:
Wow, what a conclusion Mr. Shamoun. I am really impressed!
He wrote:
Add to this the consistent NT teaching that there is only one God, and you can see why
the early Church ended up with the doctrine of the Trinity! Cf. John 17:3; Romans 3:30; 1
Corinthians 8:6; Galatians 3:20; Ephesians 4:6; 1 Thessalonians 1:9; 1 Timothy 2:5; James
2:19.
OSAMA:
Is there something here that my brain is so stupid that it can't grasp?! I mean,
how much more clear can Jesus be in the Bible about not being the Creator of the
Universe?! When he was asked about the time of the Hour, he said: Only GOD knew.
When he lived on earth, he prayed to GOD Almighty by bowing his face down all the
way to the ground in humility to GOD Almighty. When he was here on earth, he said
with his own tongue "Why call me good? There none good by He. That is GOD."
Please visit: Questions about Jesus that trinitarian
Christians don't have logical answers for, to see the references to everything
Jesus said and did that prove he wasn't GOD Almighty.
I mean, seriously, am I really extremely stupid for not seeing the truth in trinity?
Or is it simply that trinitarian Christians love to be polytheists and pagans?
I once saw a whole hour of Pastor Charles Stanley (he is probably the most popular
Christian minister in the US) explaining and desperately proving how Jesus is the
Sovereign LORD and Creator of the Universe. He spent a whole hour trying to prove
through ridiculous personal interpretations and conclusions that Jesus is the Creator of
the Universe.
RESPONSE:
It is evident that the problem is with Osama, not with the Holy Bible. An accurate
reading of the Holy Bible leads to the inevitable conclusion that the Lord Jesus is the
Creator of the universe.
My response:
I am glad you said Mr. Shamoun. "inevitable conclusion
that the Lord Jesus is the Creator of the universe". It's just a lousy
conclusion that you will pay the ultimate price for in the End. Is your god that
pathetic and stupid that he leaves you confused in conclusions to discover the Truth?
That is not my GOD Almighty Mr. Shamoun.
Allah Almighty is the Sovereign LORD of this Universe:
"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the
Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none
like unto Him. (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"
And about Jesus peace be upon him, here is what Allah Almighty said about him:
"Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of
truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. (The Noble
Quran, 19:34)"
"The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam; He
created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was. (The Noble Quran, 3:59)"
"And behold! God will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary!
Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God'?" He
will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to
say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in
my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
(The Noble Quran, 5:116)"
"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion:
Nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more
than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a
spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His apostles. Say not
"Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: Glory be to
Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and
on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs. (The
Noble Quran, 4:171)"
"Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of
Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because
they disobeyed and persisted in excesses. (The Noble
Quran, 5:78)"
"The same religion has He established for you
(i.e., Muhammad) as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent
by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and
Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no
divisions therein: to those who worship other things than God, hard is the (way) to which
thou callest them. God chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself
those who turn (to Him). (The Noble Quran, 42:13)"
"We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a
succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened
him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle
with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called
impostors, and others ye slay! (The Noble Quran, 2:87)"
"And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary,
confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance
and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and
an admonition to those who fear God. (The
Noble Quran, 5:46)"
"Those apostles We endowed with gifts, some above others: To
one of them God spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary
We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit.
If God had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after
clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others
rejecting. If God had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but God Fulfilleth
His plan. (The Noble Quran, 2:253)"
"Say ye: "We believe in God, and the revelation given
to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and
Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one
and another of them: And we bow to God (in Islam)." (The Noble Quran, 2:136)"
"Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God giveth thee glad
tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held
in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those
nearest to God; (The Noble Quran, 3:45)"
"When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: "Who
will be My helpers to (the work of) God?" Said the disciples: "We are God's
helpers: We believe in God, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more").
(The Noble Quran, 3:52)"
"Behold! God said: "O Jesus! I will take
thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme;
I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of
Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the
matters wherein ye dispute. (The Noble Quran, 3:55)"
"That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the
son of Mary, the Apostle of God";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but
so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of
doubts, with no (certain) know ledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they
killed him not:- (The Noble Quran, 4:157)"
"Then will God say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount
My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy
spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity.
Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest
out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and
it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My
leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain
the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs,
and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.' (The Noble Quran, 5:110)"
"Behold! the disciples, said: "O Jesus the son of Mary!
can thy Lord send down to us a table set (with viands) from heaven?" Said Jesus:
"Fear God, if ye have faith." (The Noble
Quran, 5:112)"
"Said Jesus the son of Mary: "O God our Lord! Send us
from heaven a table set (with viands), that there may be for us - for the first and the
last of us - a solemn festival and a sign from thee; and provide for our sustenance, for
thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs)." (The
Noble Quran, 5:114)"
"And Zakariya and John, and Jesus and Elias: all in the
ranks of the righteous: (The Noble Quran, 6:85)"
"When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example,
behold, thy people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)! (The Noble Quran, 43:57)"
"And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour
(of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is a
Straight Way. (The Noble Quran, 43:61)"
"When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: "Now have I
come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which
ye dispute: therefore fear God and obey me. (The Noble Quran, 43:63)"
"Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of)
Our apostles: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and
We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But
the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We
commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of God; but that they did not foster as
they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due)
reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors. (The
Noble Quran, 57:27)"
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O
Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came)
before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said,
"this is evident sorcery!" (The Noble Quran,
61:6)" Please visit Jesus mentioned Muhammad by the name in the
Bible.
"O ye who believe! Be ye helpers of God: As said
Jesus the son of Mary to the Disciples, "Who will be my helpers to (the work of) God?"
Said the disciples, "We are God's helpers!" then a portion of the Children of
Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved: But We gave power to those who believed,
against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed. (The Noble Quran, 61:14)"
He wrote:
It is Osamas gross misunderstanding and/or misrepresentation of the doctrine of
the Holy Trinity which leads him to erroneous conclusions.
My response:
Mr. Shamoun, thanks to Allah Almighty, I don't need to make conclusions. I have
the clear Truth from the Noble Quran. I'll leave the baffling with conclusions for
you and your polytheist pagan trinitarian friends to continue playing with while you're in
Hell Fire. May be you'll figure out a conclusion to your fate while your roasting in
Hell.
I am sorry, I don't mean to sound rude or mean, but playing with GOD Almighty in this
ridiculous way Mr. Shamoun will only lead you to the Ultimate Destruction! And that
is not a conclusion!
He wrote:
For instance, Osamas appeal to Christs statement that he doesnt know
the Hour, or that Christ prayed, or his saying that only God is good shows that Osama
hasnt even bothered to study the biblical responses which explains the exact meaning
of these statements in their respective contexts. He simply pulls verses out of
context and thinks that he has somehow managed to undermine the biblical basis for the
doctrine of the blessed Trinity.
My response:
Your links don't disprove anything. They only add more confusion to the reader
with your out of context verses and baseless conclusions.
He wrote:
So Osamas claim in one of his articles that Trinitarians have no logical answers
to the questions posed by him and others is clearly false and only shows that Osama
hasnt read and/or understood our responses.
My response:
Where is your logic when you pack GOD Almighty in a box of a ridiculous conclusion?
You think you're smart when you come up with conclusions. You think you
showed the world that you studied hard and researched hard. You're only making a
fool out of yourself Mr. Shamoun. Trinity had turned you into a stupid person, not a
smart one. It added a lot of confusions to you.
You know what's really stupid Mr. Shamoun? It is you believing in third-party
narrations in your books and gospels of the Bible and claim that it was inspired by GOD
Almighty Himself while these books and gospels don't even make such claim.
He wrote:
OSAMA:
I have never seen more awkward and more confused people than the trinitarian
Christians. I really feel sorry for them, because they have trapped themselves into
polytheism, and associated themselves with the pagan idol worshipers, such as the Hindus
and the Buddhists.
As you know, my last name is "Abdallah", which means "Servant of
Allah". Some pathetic Arab Christians name themselves as
"Abdulsaleeb", which means "Servant of the cross", or "slave of
the cross". They have taken even the crosses that the pagan Romans used for
crucifying innocent people and associated such worthless earthly objects with GOD
Almighty. Is GOD Almighty really that cheap to the Christians?
I once had a Christian woman told me that even if Jesus was not GOD Almighty, then it
would still be ok to pray to him and ask for his forgiveness, because GOD "sent him
to us". I really don't think that I am being unfair when I say that most
Christians don't really have much regard nor respect to the real divinity of GOD Almighty.
They think it's ok to insult Him and to chop Him into three pieces under the pagan
theology of trinity.
RESPONSE:
First, Osamas tirade and insult against Trinitarians is more an indication of
Osamas depraved mind than it is of Christian believers in the true, eternal triune
God.
My response:
This is a cheap shot that is not worth responding to.
He wrote:
Second, the reason why some Christians choose to call themselves servants of the cross
is because of the words of our beloved Master:
"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone
who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who does not
take his cross AND FOLLOW ME is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it,
and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." Matthew 10:37-39
My response:
Mr. Shamoun, I regretfully don't expect you to really understand any of this, but as I
clearly proved above, the entire Bible, especially the New Testament, is not authentic at
all! The problem with the book and gospels of the NT is that they were written in a
300-year span. Many of them have long years of differences between them. For
instance, the book of Mark is believed to be 50 years older than the book of Matthew.
This is what I personally heard from the commentary of Ministers on the movie
"From Jesus to Christ". So as we can see, we can't really take every thing
that was said from Jesus and about Jesus as authentic from the Bible, because the
so-called books and gospels were not (1) Written by Jesus himself; (2) Nor were they
written in the same time or year. There are even centuries between some of them!
So it should be easy for you to see how easy it was to insert fabrications and lies
into the Bible.
As to Islam, Islam had proven itself to be the True Divine Religion from GOD Almighty.
For instance, I would like you to visit the following links to see the True
Miracles in the Noble Quran in Science:
Here are
some of my favorite Stunning Numerical and Scientific
Miracles in the Glorious Quran that are listed in
the main sections,
below:
1-
The root for message and all of its
derivatives, such as messenger and others
occurs
513
times throughout the Glorious Quran. The
Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names
(Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned
513 times
in the Glorious Quran. The detailed
breakdown of all of this is thoroughly
listed here.
Coincidence?
See
1,000s
of examples! [1]. (zip file).
2-
The Great Miracle. Allah
Almighty in the Holy Quran called the Number
19 Miracle "One of the
Mighty
Ones (Miracles)" (74:30-37)
[1]
[2].
See the 100s of Noble Verses that clearly
testify to this Great Miracle. Also,
did you know that Allah Almighty Said in
Surat Nuh (that's Noble Chapter Nuh (Noah))
that Prophet Noah lived for
950 years
among his people.
Yet,
all Praise and Glory are due to Allah
Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah is
exactly written in
950
Letters
[1]
[2]!
You can thoroughly see this in the scanned
images that thoroughly verify every single
Noble Letter, in the links. Click on
the links to see the many other Numerical
Miracles in the Holy Quran. Also, see
the Numerical Miracles
section along with all of the
other great sections. Also,
1,000s of examples in
zip &
PDF (fonts)
files all demonstrated in this
article.
3-
19 X 115 = 2185 Number 19 and BASMALA
Miracle. The total
numerical value of Noble Verses
74:30-37 themselves, which are
the heart of the Number 19 Miracle, has a
stunning Miracle in it. The value of
these Noble Verses matches the
multiplication of the BASMALA's number of
letters (19
Letters) and their total numerical values (115):
19 X 115 = 2185.
The Basmala, which full text in Arabic means
"In the Name of Allah The Most Beneficent,
The Most Merciful"
is the Key to the Glorious Quran. It
is recited first before reading the Holy
Quran, and it is also obligatory upon every
Muslim to start with the Basmala before
starting any task. Again, 1,000s of
examples in
zip &
PDF (fonts)
files all demonstrated in this
article.
4- The
Glorious Quran has 114 Chapters. The sum of
those Chapters is
6555
(1+2+...+114 = 6555). There are also
6236
Noble Verses in the Glorious Quran. Now, if
you add each Chapter's number with the number of
its Verses, then you get a list of numbers.
So 1 (first Chapter) + 7 (# of its Verses) =
8. Do this for all Chapters.
1-
The sum of the odd numbers from the list =
6555. 2- The sum of the
even numbers from the list =
6236.
See the
XLS file for 100% confirmation. Also, see the ample STUNNING Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran, with 1,000s of examples! [1] (zip file).. See also the ample Textual Miracles [2] in the Glorious Quran, where Noble Words are spelled in certain ways depending on their certain historical and geographical context and timing in the Noble Verse.
1-
Geology, Earth's spherical
expansion, formation, Mountains
and Oceanology.
2-
The Universe,
Time, Astronomy, UFOs
and Space Shuttles.
3-
Embryology, Human
Anatomy, Formation, and
Creation.
4-
STUNNING Numerical Miracles
in the Glorious Quran.
With 1,000s of examples!
[4]. See also the ample Textual Miracles [2] in the Glorious Quran, where Noble Words are spelled in certain ways depending on their certain historical and geographical context and timing in the Noble Verse.
5-
Medicine, Humans, Insects
and Animals.
6-
Life, Origins of life from
water and dust in the
Noble Quran, Plants and their
origins.
7-
Psychology.
8-Archeology and History.
9-
Great Web Sites and Online
Books.
10-
Rebuttals.
11-
General articles.
12-
STUNNING
Prophecies,
and
Allah's
Divine Promises
to reveal the Quran's Miracles.
"When the sky
disintegrates, and turns
rose colored like paint
(وردة
كالدهان)."
(The Noble Quran,
55:37)
[2]
[3]
As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day. NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode). It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.
The
Glorious Quran
declares that the
earth is
spherical:
[1]
Allah Almighty
in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
- Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1]. - Is rotating around itself. - Is moving in space in
curvy orbits [2]. - Is in constant motion. - Is suspended in space. - Is
swimming in space. - Is traveling through the constantly
expanding universe [3].
- The
sunsetless
North Pole miracle in the Glorious Quran
[4].
At the top of
the North Pole, the sun never sets[4], and I
showed the video for that, and also quoted the
scientific sources for that. Also in the lands
near by, it almost never sets either, and I
quoted sources for that as well, and also showed
pictures of the "polar
night" skies on these lands.
He saw the
Aurora Lights covering:
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the
aurora lights covering the
horizons of space above the earth when he
was taken up to Heaven:
Narrated
Abdullah: "Regarding
the Verse: Indeed he (Muhammad)
did see. Of
the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest!
(Quran 53.18)
That the Prophet had seen a green
carpet spread all over the
horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء."
(Translation of Sahih
Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)
Regarding Dhil-Qarnayn (literally means "man of two horns"), Allah Almighty said
this about his journey to the farthest
northern lands and people:
18:90 حتى اذا بلغ مطلع الشمس وجدها تطلع على
قوم لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر
"Until he reached near
حتى اذا بلغ
where the sun is up
مطلع
الشمس,
he found it above
وجدها تطلع على
people
قوم
whom We
made no cover for them from it
لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر.
(The Noble Quran, 18:90)"
Noble Verse(s)
18:91
Rodwell:
[018:091]
Thus it was.
And we had
full knowledge
of the forces that were with him.
Arabic (Read from right to
left. Also, all png image files: [1]
[2]):
18:91 كذلك
وقد احطنا
بما لديه خبرا
Prophet Muhammad
"did see"
(Quran 53.18)
the
Aurora Lights
covering the horizons above the earth from
space. Dhil-Qarnayn went up to the
farthest northern lands where the sun is up, and
"Thus
it was", Allah Almighty
completed the "full
knowledge" regarding
Dhil-Qarnayn's mission.
This
further supports the story below about
Dhil-Qarnayn's journey
to the farthest northern lands and people (The
sunsetless [4]
North Pole Quran-miracle). They also spoke almost unintelligibly (18:93), the Glorious Quran says. They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93). For example, can you read or say this:
This is an actual word. Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly. The actual meaning of the word "Barbarian" is someone who speaks unintelligibly. The description of the people of the North, whose North Pole is truly sunsetless (see ample pictures), perfectly fits the Barbarians of the Vikings in the Scandinavian and other Barbarians in the near by lands:
Dhil-Qarnayn literally means "man of two horns"
Dhil = One who has. قرنين Qarnayn = two horns. Qarnayn is a dual plural of Qarn (horn). Three or more horns is Quroon, in Arabic.
Noble Verses
53:18 and 18:91
are also prophetically linked together;
that Prophet Muhammad also saw what Dhil-Qarnayn ذي القرنين
saw. Also visit:
-
The Glorious Quran also speaks about
many earths
[5]
and not just earth.
- The Glorious Quran
predicts 11 planets in our
solar system [6].
In the end, Allah Almighty uses the Glorious Quran to "...Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth..." (74:31). The infidels misuse the Glorious Quran to find "scientific errors". The Glorious Quran is Allah Almighty's Perfect Divine Holy Book. It contains no scientific error. Visit the following example and the link to see 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles:
1- The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran. The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here.
Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).
This is a picture of the
seven encyclopedic dictionaries that I
used that thoroughly demonstrate the Noble Words that contain
the Scientific Miracles in them, and how they were used by the
Arabs of old before and after Islam. Ample quotations, sayings,
proverbs and examples quoted from these dictionaries at:
www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm
6-
The Glorious Quran's
Perfect Preservation
despite all of the
odds and the many challenges to corrupt It.
Hafs vs Warsh,
and
Ahruf vs Qiraat
thoroughly compared
here.
Also,
the produce Surah like
it
Quran challenge to all. Click
here.
7- Prophet Muhammad, and Divine Islam, and the New Covenant from Arabia were thoroughly prophesied in previous scriptures.
He wrote:
The cross symbolizes the life of self-sacrifice. It calls true believers to die to
themselves and to their own desires in order to devote themselves wholeheartedly to the
risen and immortal Lord and Savior.
My response:
This is all a bunch of nonsense that was taken from a book that is filled with man-made
nonsense Mr. Shamoun. My article Answering
Isaiah 53 actually shows how the OT agrees with the Noble Quran
regarding Jesus not getting crucified.
He wrote:
The Apostle Paul sums it best:
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives
in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and
gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
This is why true believers are not ashamed to boast in the cross of our Lord Jesus
Christ:
"May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which
the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world." Galatians 6:14
The cross also symbolizes our salvation, that God in his great and infinite love sent
his Son to die for the full redemption of his children. It symbolizes the salvation which
God freely bestowed on true believers through faith in Jesus Christ:
"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but
to us who are being saved it is the power of God ... but we preach Christ crucified:
a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called,
both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God." 1
Corinthians 1:18, 23-24
Amazingly, Osamas blasphemous tirade against the cross of Christ confirms the
truthfulness of the preceding passage. It shows that the Apostle Paul was correct in his
inspired assessment that the cross of Christ is scandalous and offensive to those who are
perishing. As he says elsewhere, the cross is quite offensive to those who are dead in
their sins:
"Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted?
In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished." Galatians 5:11
My response:
Mr. Shamoun, you quote from Paul, a person who never even met Jesus in person. He
claimed that he met Jesus and people just took him for granted. I hope you see the
real weakness in your Bible. Paul by the way is very controversial among the
Christian community. Many popular
Christian ministers don't believe in him.
Finally, one who lives in a glass house shouldnt cast stones at others,
especially when ones religion promotes pagan rituals and idolatry. Osama knows very
well that all of the Islamic rituals connected with the Kabah are actually pagan in
origin:
No, I don't know well that Islam is a religion that promotes pagan rituals and
idolatry. This is a childish statement from you. Also, Islam is completely
anti paganism and polytheism. It's your pagan trinity that is all about godheads and
multiple gods and polytheism. Islam is not about that at all:
"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the
Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none
like unto Him. (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"
The claim that Abraham and Ishmael instituted these rites is both biblically and
historically untenable:
My response:
Your biased resources don't prove anything Mr. Shamoun. The Noble Quran proved
itself to be GOD Almighty's Holy Revelation. Therefore, any claim found in the Noble
Quran is the Truth as far as any Muslim is concerned.
Also, I did prove from your very own Bible that the city of "Paran" is the
city of "Mecca". So even your conclusions from your sources had been
soundly refuted, and it was clearly shown from your sources that Ishmael and Abraham peace
be upon them did indeed build the Kaaba.
Narrated Salim that his father said: I saw Allah's Apostle arriving at Mecca; he
kissed the Black Stone Corner first while doing Tawaf and did ramal in the first three
rounds of the seven rounds (of Tawaf). (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number
673)
Narrated 'Abis bin Rabia:
'Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said: "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm
anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."
(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 667- see also 675, 676, 679, 680)
My response:
In Islam, it is not mandatory for any Muslim to kiss the stone. But however, it
is believed that this stone was sent from Heaven. That's why the Prophet peace be
upon him kissed that stone. But like I said, it is not mandatory to kiss that stone
or any object.
He wrote:
The true God of Abraham would never send a black stone for his followers to kiss. There
is no biblical basis supporting the kissing of inanimate objects in religious contexts. In
fact, when Israel started venerating an object which God used as a means of healing
Israel, that object was destroyed:
"They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea, to go around Edom.
But the people grew impatient on the way; they spoke against God and against Moses, and
said, Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the desert? There is no
bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food! Then the LORD sent
venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. The people came
to Moses and said, We sinned when we spoke against the LORD and against you. Pray
that the LORD will take the snakes away from us. So Moses prayed for the people. The
LORD said to Moses, Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten
can look at it and live. So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then
when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, he lived."
Numbers 21:4-9
"He did what was right in the eyes of the LORD, just as his father David had done.
He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He
broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had
been burning incense to it. (It was called Nehushtan.)" 2 Kings 18:3-4
This shows that God will not tolerate the veneration of objects that he himself
commissioned. How much more, then, would God condemn the kissing of a stone that HE NEVER
COMMISSIONED HIS FOLLOWERS TO MAKE in the first place?!
My response:
We don't care what the Bible says because we don't follow it. Like I said, it is
not mandatory in Islam to kiss that stone. The Prophet peace be upon him decided to
kiss it because it is believed that the stone was sent from Heaven. It was his
personal preference to show Allah Almighty gratefullness. But we're not obligated to
follow that practice.
He wrote:
Amazingly, the Lord Jesus likens his own death to Moses bronze serpent:
"Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted
up, that everyone who believes IN HIM may have eternal life." John 3:14-15
Jesus statement serves as a warning against anyone who would venerate and pray to
symbols and images of crosses. Just as God condemned the veneration of an object which he
himself used to heal his people, God also condemns the worship of crosses, since we are
not to look to the cross in worship. We are instead to look to the One that died on the
cross, namely the Lord Jesus, as the object of our worship:
"Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who
for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at
the right hand of the throne of God." Hebrews 12:2
My response:
We Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") agree that Jesus peace be upon him was lifted to Heaven. We have no
disagreement there. The Noble Quran like I said had proven itself to be the True
Revelation from Allah Almighty. This is proven in The Miracles of
Islam and the Noble Quran.
Also, please visit The Noble Quran section, and read the "Prophecies"
sub section to see the great Prophecies that were fulfilled only in the Noble Quran.
The Noble Quran also made mention and promised the discovery of lost ancient
cities and people's bodies, and these promises were all fulfilled today.
He wrote:
Interestingly, even the very symbol of the crescent and five-point star, found on many
Islamic flags, is pagan in origin:
This is the well-known ideogram found on for instance the flags of Turkey and Pakistan.
Positioned in various ways it appears on several of the Islamic countries' national flags.
This ideogram is a general symbol for the Islamic faith. It combines the pictorial
sign for the waning moon and the sign for the planet Venus as the Morning star.
The five points of the Venus star are in this context said to represent the five
pillars of Islam: ... (Source: http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/24/2464.html)
Five Pointed Star
This is also known as a Pentacle or a Pentagram. For neo-pagans this is symbolic of the
four elements: air, water, earth, fire + spirit. See the qualities page for details.
Pythagoras held the number 5 to be the sum of the feminine element (2) and the masculine
element (3), so it is also symbolic of a union of masculine and feminine. The symbol also
has meaning in Taoism, Hinduism and Islam. (Source: http://hunter.apana.org.au/~gallae/hecate/reference/symbols/symbols_goth.htm)
The crescent moon and star is a popularly recognised symbol for Islam, though it does
not officially represent the religion. The crescent moon was originally the symbol for the
city of Constantinople (now Istanbul, Turkey) which was conquered by the Muslim Ottomans
in 1453. The Ottoman Empire kept this symbol (it is uncertain when and why the star was
added) and ruled the Muslim world for centuries. The original symbol probably
represents a pagan deity. (Source: http://www.gaymidlands.org/culture3b.html)
In the 6th century A.D., in the areas of Arabia (present-day Saudi Arabia), polytheism
pervaded the Arabic tribes living there. A supreme god named Allah (Arabic; "the
deity") was worshipped as was his consort Allat (feminine of Allah), who belonged to
a triple goddess pantheon which consisted of Allat worshipped in the form of a square
stone, Al-Manat (goddess of fate) worshipped in the form of a black stone, and Al-Uzza
(goddess of East Mecca) who had human sacrifices carried out in her name. In all, there
was a total of 360-deities. Among them was Hubal, god of the Ka'ba worshipped in the form
of a man, and another god named Al-Rahman (Arabic; "merciful"). In fact, the
term Al-Rahman would be used 169-times to describe Allah in the Islamic holy book the
Qur'an (Arabic; "the recitation"). Soon, these deities would be totally
forsaken, although their names and locale would be instrumental in the founding of a new
religion thereafter known as Islam. An ancient pagan symbol would be used to depict
this new religion; the ancient Babylonian symbol of the god & goddess. (Note:
The star represented the god Ningal, and the crescent moon represented the goddess Nannar).
(Source: http://www.geocities.com/exwitch/eleventhpage.html)
In other words, it is Islam that is pagan and polytheistic in nature! Now Osama may
claim that the symbol of the crescent and five-pointed star does not originate from
Muhammad or the first Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"). That may be fine and dandy, but that still doesn't excuse
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") who boast in being devotees of pure monotheism from adopting pagan symbols. Also,
this still doesn't solve the problem regarding the rites of Islam since practices such as
the kissing of the black stone are nothing more than pagan and idolatrous rites condemned
by the true God in his true word, the Holy Bible.
My response:
The crescent is only used for determining the start and finish of the Fasting Month of
Ramadan. Allah Almighty clearly refuted the bogus theory of "moon god" and
all the other nonsense that anti-Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") falsely claim against Islam.
Please visit: Is Allah really a "moon god"?
It's funny how some anti-Islamics claim this, while the Noble Quran directly
refutes this: "Among His Sings are the Night and the Day, and
the Sun and the Moon. Adore not the sun and the moon, but adore God, Who created them, if
it is Him ye wish to serve. (The Noble Quran, 41:37)"
As to the five pillars of Islam, they are: (1) "Al-Shahadatyn", which
means the "Two Bearing of Witnesses". In order for a person to embrace
Islam, he would have to say: "I bear witness that there is no GOD but Allah, and
Muhammad is His Servant and Messenger". (2) Praying;
(3) Fasting the Month of Ramadan; (4) Al-Zakah, which is paying 2.5% of your annual income for charity; and (5) Al-Hajj,
which is doing pilgrimage to Mecca if you're physically capable and you are debt free.
All of the five pillars were extracted directly from the Noble Quran. Many
Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") strongly believe that the pillars of Islam are 6 and not 5. The 6th one is Jihad, which is fighting for the cause of Allah Almighty and
Justice. Jihad is not just limited to physical wars. Jihad can also be through
peaceful actions. I am right now doing Jihad by spreading Islam through my web
site. I don't have to go out and fight to do Jihad. But when fighting is a
must, then I must fight to defend the Truth and Justice.
Your bogus conclusions about Islam's pillars being similar to paganism is exactly
similar to your bogus conclusion about trinity. It is nothing but a bunch of gibrish
nonsense. Go ahead and keep going with your funny conclusions and keep making a fool
out of yourself Mr. Shamoun.
He wrote:
In conclusion, Osama has provided nothing of substance to deny the biblical truth that
the true God Yahweh is a triune Being, and that the Lord Jesus is fully and eternally God
in nature, the second Person of the blessed Trinity.
My response:
Mr. Shamoun, your whole Bible is unauthentic and is very doubtful according to your own theologians. Also, I am glad you said "blessed Trinity" with a capital
"T". This shows how ridiculous you and your trinitarian friends are
because the word itself doesn't even exist in the Bible, nor is this concept elaborated on
at all in the Bible. It is only a goofy conclusion that your people decided to come
up with. My GOD Almighty is not the GOD of confusion Mr. Shamoun.
He wrote:
By Gods sovereign and perfect grace, we continue to remain in the service of our
immortal Savior Jesus Christ. Amen. Come Lord Jesus, come. We love and worship you forever
since you are Gods eternally beloved and unique Son. Amen.
My response:
Prophet Jesus peace be upon him will come back again to fight the
devil and his army, and the polytheists whom your people, the polytheist
trinitarian pagans, are part of. I feel sorry for you Mr. Shamoun. You have
degraded yourself to the level of pagans and polytheists by accepting the pagan concept of
trinity, which originated from the hindus 3 godhead nonsense.
Dhul Qarnayn's story. Sunrise
and sunset.
Also Why
حمئة
and not حاميةٍ.
Dhil Qarnayn's journey is detailed
with scientific and geographical
maps that are more 1000 years old.
The
sunsetless
North Pole Miracle in
the Glorious Quran [1].
Allah Almighty
in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
- Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1]. - Is rotating around itself. - Is moving in space in
curvy orbits [2]. - Is in constant motion. - Is suspended in space. - Is
swimming in space. - Is traveling through the constantly
expanding universe [3].
- The
sunsetless
North Pole miracle in the Glorious Quran
[4].
At the top of
the North Pole, the sun never sets[4], and I
showed the video for that, and also quoted the
scientific sources for that. Also in the lands
near by, it almost never sets either, and I
quoted sources for that as well, and also showed
pictures of the "polar
night" skies on these lands.
He saw the
Aurora Lights covering:
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the
aurora lights covering the
horizons of space above the earth when he
was taken up to Heaven:
Narrated
Abdullah: "Regarding
the Verse: Indeed he (Muhammad)
did see. Of
the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest!
(Quran 53.18)
That the Prophet had seen a green
carpet spread all over the
horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء."
(Translation of Sahih
Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)
Regarding Dhil-Qarnayn (literally means "man of two horns"), Allah Almighty said
this about his journey to the farthest
northern lands and people:
18:90 حتى اذا بلغ مطلع الشمس وجدها تطلع على
قوم لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر
"Until he reached near
حتى اذا بلغ
where the sun is up
مطلع
الشمس,
he found it above
وجدها تطلع على
people
قوم
whom We
made no cover for them from it
لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر.
(The Noble Quran, 18:90)"
Noble Verse(s)
18:91
Rodwell:
[018:091]
Thus it was.
And we had
full knowledge
of the forces that were with him.
Arabic (Read from right to
left. Also, all png image files: [1]
[2]):
18:91 كذلك
وقد احطنا
بما لديه خبرا
Prophet Muhammad
"did see"
(Quran 53.18)
the
Aurora Lights
covering the horizons above the earth from
space. Dhil-Qarnayn went up to the
farthest northern lands where the sun is up, and
"Thus
it was", Allah Almighty
completed the "full
knowledge" regarding
Dhil-Qarnayn's mission.
This
further supports the story below about
Dhil-Qarnayn's journey
to the farthest northern lands and people (The
sunsetless [4]
North Pole Quran-miracle). They also spoke almost unintelligibly (18:93), the Glorious Quran says. They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93). For example, can you read or say this:
This is an actual word. Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly. The actual meaning of the word "Barbarian" is someone who speaks unintelligibly. The description of the people of the North, whose North Pole is truly sunsetless (see ample pictures), perfectly fits the Barbarians of the Vikings in the Scandinavian and other Barbarians in the near by lands:
Dhil-Qarnayn literally means "man of two horns"
Dhil = One who has. قرنين Qarnayn = two horns. Qarnayn is a dual plural of Qarn (horn). Three or more horns is Quroon, in Arabic.
Noble Verses
53:18 and 18:91
are also prophetically linked together;
that Prophet Muhammad also saw what Dhil-Qarnayn ذي القرنين
saw. Also visit:
-
The Glorious Quran also speaks about
many earths
[5]
and not just earth.
- The Glorious Quran
predicts 11 planets in our
solar system [6].
In the end, Allah Almighty uses the Glorious Quran to "...Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth..." (74:31). The infidels misuse the Glorious Quran to find "scientific errors". The Glorious Quran is Allah Almighty's Perfect Divine Holy Book. It contains no scientific error. Visit the following example and the link to see 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles:
1- The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran. The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here.
Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).
Did Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the
crucifixion of Jesus? It supports Islam's claims about Jesus peace be upon him
never died on the cross. I also addressed John 19:36-37 from the Bible and proved
that Jesus never got crucified, since GOD Almighty promised that he will protect Jesus'
body and not let even a single bone be broken. My question to all Christians is: How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross
without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's
bones?! I also added refutations to Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12, Zechariah 12:10 and Psalm 34:20, which
supposedly prove the Christians' belief about Jesus crucifixion. I proved that this
dogma has no truth what so ever and exposed the wrong Trinitarian English translation of Zechariah 12:10.
Jesus had no Divine Will
according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?
Ten detailed sub sections in this article:
1- Jesus said he had no Divine Will.
2- Jesus' repetitive Prayers contradicted his very own teachings.
3- Jesus begged GOD (Matthew 26:36-44) Almighty for Mercy.
4- Jesus prostrated to GOD Almighty only once during his most desperate times! This
is hypocrisy by the way.
5- GOD Almighty Created pain and death, and yet, Jesus feared them. 6- The GOD of the O.T. Punishes to death those who
cursed HIS HOLY NAME. How could Jesus escape to Egypt from King Herod. 7- In original Hebrew, "son of GOD" literally
means "SERVANT OF GOD". See proofs.
8- What about the authority in Heaven and Earth that was given to Jesus?
9- None of Jesus' Miracles were unique in the Bible.
10- Conclusion.
The
Almighty Dollar & Power were the Ultimate
Reason:
"Everyone who
owned land or houses would
sell
them
and bring the money to the apostles"
(The Bible,
Acts 4:34-35)
1 Corinthians 9:11-12
11 When we told the message to you, it was like planting spiritual seed. So we have the right to accept material things as our harvest from you. 12 If others have the right to do this, we have an even greater right. But we haven’t used this right of ours. We are willing to put up with anything to keep from causing trouble for the message about Christ.
Sam Shamoun exposes Christianity, and how it steals money and bankrupts its followers via over-demanding and excessive "sacrificial giving":
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.Where is Jesus' promise?? Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Totally a false promise!
The
infestation of the Pauls:
Paul was a rodent
from an
infestation of rodents.
The plague of tens (10s)of
false messiahs and prophets
at the time is thoroughly proven [1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]. Like the saying
goes:
"You are a product of your
environment"
Paul was certainly a product of the
plenty of false liars
that were roaming around:
Sam Shamoun exposes Christianity, and how it steals money and bankrupts its followers via over-demanding and excessive "sacrificial giving":
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.Where is Jesus' promise?? Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over their mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Totally a false promise!