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My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "The Quran and Lesbianism: An open challenge to Osama Abdallah" article:

The following is my rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's article that is located at: http://www../Responses/Osama/lesbian.htm.

 

 

He wrote:

THE QURAN AND LESBIANISM

AN OPEN CHALLENGE TO OSAMA ABDALLAH

Sam Shamoun

Some readers may wonder why we even bother to discuss the question of whether or not the Quran condemns lesbian acts. The relevancy of the issue goes beyond merely responding to one misguided attack on us by Osama Abdallah. This will become clear in the last section of this article, the concluding remarks.

 

My response:

Before we start, I'd like to ask the reader to visit:  Where in the Bible is lesbianism prohibited?  I proved from Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy1:10, Romans 1:18-32, Deuteronomy 23:17, Leviticus 20:15 and Leviticus 20:16 that lesbianism is totally condoned in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Also see the pornography:

  

Bibles' Glorified incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications:

  
Song of Songs 8:1-3
  
1. Oh, I wish you were my brother, who nursed at my mother’s breasts. Then I could kiss you no matter who was watching, and no one would criticize me.
2 I would bring you to my childhood home, and there you would teach me. I would give you spiced wine to drink, my sweet pomegranate wine.
3 Your left arm would be under my head, and your right arm would embrace me.

  • "my sweet pomegranate wine"  Her wine is her vagina's wet and cum (audio clip).  He also did say that her vagina and breasts taste like "wine" (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9).
  • Song of Solomon 3:4
    Then scarcely had I left them when I found my love! I caught and held him tightly, then I brought him to
    my mother’s house, into my mother’s bed, where I had been conceived.

    Song of Solomon 7:10-12
    10 I am my lover’s, and he claims me as his own.
    11 Come, my love, let us go out to the fields and spend the night among the wildflowers.
    12 Let us get up early and go to the vineyards to see if the grapevines have budded, if the blossoms have opened, and if the pomegranates have bloomed. There I will give you my love
    (fornicate).

      

    Little sister & mom's bed:

    Song of Songs 8:8-9
    8
    We have a little sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for our sister on the day she is spoken for?

    Song of Songs 8:8
    8
    Our sister is little, and hath no breasts. What shall we do to our sister in the day when she is to be spoken to?


    What shall you (plural) do with your little sister and her little breasts?  Let me guess:
      

    Deflower her in your mentioned mother's bed?

      

    Also, is the holy book of  toilet   ספר קודש של שירותים    كتاب المرحاض المقدس  further suggesting group incestuous rape of the little sister by her praised horny siblings?
      
      




    Woke is evil Israel's invention; from the same satanic cesspool:


         


    Woke is one of Israel's lies.
      9/11 is 100% an Israeli lie
    .

      

    X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.
      

    Watch the video here.  Sam Shamoun exposes the sex scandals of many inside his inner circle.

      

      
    Their sister's vagina tastes like "wine"
    : [1] AUDIO clip
    (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9).  The Bible praises, and even promotes, incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9].  Notice "no one would criticize me" (Song of Songs 8:1), above.  A husband and wife, or even a brother and sister, would not be criticized if people saw them walking to their home.  Clearly, this is not a husband and wife relationship.  And this is the pile of dung that Jews and Christians uphold as the Holy Word of GOD Almighty??

      

    Praised Incest:
      
    The Bibles praise fornications in
    incest-like descriptions.  The brothers, little sister and mother sexing, and the vaginas taste like "wine", and a praise for group incest rape in the gospel of LGBTQ, Woke and porn:
      

      
    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':



    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs
    , and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.  Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

      

    Also Visit:

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.

    Would GOD Almighty validate falsehood?  Yes.  In 2 Samuel 12:7-12, GOD validated and commanded open pornography between David's wives and all men in town in broad day light.  See many other examples of GOD Almighty validating and commanding lies in the Bibles to purposefully lead astray the false ones, who were supposed to be otherwise Believers, into Hell Fire.  Also visit the link given in this video for more.

    Was Adam 90 feet tall?  Science supports Islam's claims.

    Mankind multiplied via cloning from Adam, not incest [1]:  Evidence that Allah Almighty created the People of Adam through Cloning.  (html backup).  Another STUNNING Scientific Claim from Islam.

    Earth Cloning:  Evidence from the Quran that Allah Almighty Created the 7 Heavens and all of their Earths from Cloning.

    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:

    www.google.com/search?q=What+are+all+the+pronouns+used+by+Lgbtq
    www.google.com/search?q=all+lgbtq+pronouns
    www.google.com/search?q=the+transgender+pronouns
    www.google.com/search?q=lgbt+hundreds+of+pronouns+animal+human
    www.google.com/search?q=non+binary+pronouns

    The links above are for LGBTQ pronouns.

      

    Human cloning and gender alteration were prophesied in Islam.

      

    Alteration of Creation Prophecy in Quran:

    The somatic cells from the ears are the most preferred ones to make cloning:  "...but somatic cells from ear clippings will be much easier to obtain and are therefore preferable."  (Source, 2, pdf (page 13 in PDF, page 4 in article)).  Notice the two phases of satan's future temptation to mankind.  Notice ولامرنهم (and I will command them) is mentioned twice for two different phases:

    Noble Verse(s) 4:119
    Arabic (Read from right to left.  Also, all png image files: [1] [2].  Quran Moral Code (100s of them)]):

    4:119 ولاضلنهم ولامنينهم ولامرنهم فليبتكن اذان الانعام ولامرنهم فليغيرن خلق الله ومن يتخذ الشيطان وليا من دون الله فقد خسر خسرانا مبينا

    Rodwell:

    [004:119]  and will lead them astray, and will stir desires within them, and will command them and they shall cut the ears of animals (phase 1: Dolly the sheep and cloning research); and I will further command them, and they shall alter the creation of God (phase 2: Cloning industry, LGBTQ, transgenders, Woke, gender alteration, they-them, he-she, she-he, Ze/Zir, Xe/Xem, Sie/Hir, They/Them, (any animal)/human, (any it)/human, etc...)." He who taketh Satan rather than God for his patron, is ruined with palpable ruin:

     

      

    Cloning began with the cutting of animals' ears:

    Satan's big battle with GOD Almighty is to cause so much evil, among them is to "cut the cattle's ears and to then further command them to alter the creation of Allah" (4:119), i.e., cloning (as this is how it began today) [1]

    Transgenders also began after Dolly the sheep's cloning.  LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) are covered below in this article.  Today they're even researching making males get pregnant, or at least plant fertilized female eggs inside them and grow the fetuses into babies.

    The alteration of Allah Almighty's creations indeed began with the cutting of the animals' ears and extracting the necessary somatic cells from them.  Dolly the sheep was the first creation to ever be cloned:

    "Dolly was a female domestic sheep, and the first mammal cloned from an adult somatic cell, using the process of nuclear transfer." (Source)

    "...but somatic cells from ear clippings will be much easier to obtain and are therefore preferable."  (Source, 2, pdf (page 13 in PDF, page 4 in article))

    Ample more quotes are below in this articleIn the pdf file, we read:

        

      

    Evidence that Allah Almighty created the People of Adam through Cloning in the Glorious Quran.  (html backup).  Cloning is mentioned in multiple places in the Glorious Quran [1], and is one of the End of Times Prophecies as well.  Cloning is definitely NOT a foreign concept in the Glorious Quran.

    Please visit:

  • The Overwhelming Numerical and Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran.
  • The Quran's and Islam's Amazing Prophecies.
      
    Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]
      

    Sheikh Hamza Yusuf (Muslim convert Mark Hanson) [1] [2] on some of Islam's most STUNNING End of Times Prophecies [1] [2] including ISIS:

         

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy.
  •   

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':



    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs
    , and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

      

       

    Allah Almighty quoted satan telling Him, the Almighty, in the Glorious Quran the following:

    4:119 ولاضلنهم ولامنينهم ولامرنهم فليبتكن اذان الانعام ولامرنهم فليغيرن خلق الله ومن يتخذ الشيطان وليا من دون الله فقد خسر خسرانا مبينا

    [004:119]  and (1) will lead them astray ولاضلنهمand (2) will stir desires within them ولامنينهمand (3) will command them ولامرنهم and (4) they shall cut the ears of animals فليبتكن اذان الانعامand (5) I will command them ولامرنهم to alter the creation of God فليغيرن خلق الله ." He who taketh Satan rather than God for his patron, is ruined with palpable ruin:

    Satan will:

    1-  Lead astray.
    2-  Stir desires.
    3-  Will command the evil ones.
    4-  They will cut the animals' ears.
    5-  Then proceed to alter the creation of GOD Almighty.

      
    Notice the fifth "and":

    (5) and I will command them ولامرنهم  to alter the creation of God فليغيرن خلق الله ."

      

    Human cloning and gender alteration were prophesied in Islam.

    Evidence from the Quran that Allah Almighty Created the 7 Heavens and all of their Earths from Cloning.

      

         
      

    Masturbating on his sister:

    Now let me ask the horny creep in Song of Songs 8:8-9How many times have you already masturbated on your sister in your thoughts?  And did you also fantasize about your mother and her bed? 

    Again, this is the pile of dung that Jews and Christians uphold as the Holy Word of GOD Almighty??

      

  • Matthew 7:22-23GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.
  •   

    Fabricating books:

    Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran:

    "Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.  (The Noble Quran, 2:79)"

    www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

      

    Bride is not wife:

    In the Middle East, there is no "boyfriend" and "girlfriend".  If two are spoken of, or if two fall in love and want to get married, then the guy would call her his bride.  This is close enough to a fiancée.  So in this gospel of porn, when he calls her his "bride", he's not calling her his wife as the barking sodomized-by-their-priests proclaim.  It's a relationship between a boyfriend and a girlfriend.  "Bride" is a Semitic language metaphor.  In this gospel of porn, it is referring to his girlfriend.  In the chaste world of Islam, a wife is one who had sexual intercourse with her husband.  She now changed from being a bride to a wife.  A bride has not yet had sex with her groom.  They have not yet married.

    Song of Songs 4:8-12
    8 Come with me from Lebanon, my bride, come with me from Lebanon. Descend from the crest of Amana, from the top of Senir, the summit of Hermon, from the lions' dens and the mountain haunts of the leopards.
    9 You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace.
    10 How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!
    11 Your lips drop sweetness as the honeycomb, my bride; milk and honey are under your tongue. The fragrance of your garments is like that of Lebanon.
    12 You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain.

    Visit the following X-Rated pornography in the Bible article to see ample verses that thoroughly demonstrate that they were incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornicators:

  • Jesus problematic hyperboles.  Sinful became lawful, and lawful became sinful.
  • Jesus coveted the sins of the world for 40 days and nights.
  • Anal sex is forbidden in Islam.
  • X-Rated Pornography in the Bible section.
  • Incestuous fantasies are allowed and praised in the gospel of porn (bible).
  • The Bible praises incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications.
  • Bride is Wife?  She's a girlfriend or fiancée in the Middle East's context.
  • Isaiah's prophecy about the Jews will worship the pornographic goddess Asherah during the end of times.
  • X-Rated Pornography in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

  • Christian holy women (i.e., pornography).  Countless sacred pictures with holy crosses.
  • Miss California's Nude Pictures: Being "Biblically Correct".
  • Women in the Bible and Islam.
  • His 5.5 inches penis vs. his former wife lover's 7 inches according to him.  (video).
      
    Sam Shamoun's obsession with penis sizes on his wife and himself.(Video)
      

     
    Watch the video here.
      
    Sam Shamoun exposes the
    sex scandals of many inside his inner circle.  It seems that so many inner holy men wanted to get inner with his wife according to him, and so many were cheating on their marriages, from men and women, according to his testimony.  Watch the video here.  Hassamo fartoon whose real name is Hassamo Shamoun (aka Sam Shamoun) is also obsessed with penis sizes, even on his wife and himself.  How many women did Sam Shamoun fornicate with?  We never heard this fraud answer this one.
      
      Jesus permitted for church members to have sex with each other.
     
     Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.
     

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul also commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11–13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':



    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs
    , and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.  Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

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    Is the Bible a womanizer for allowing polygamy in NT and OT? [1]

    Some amazing Bible thumping quacks declare Islam a womanizing religion for allowing polygamy for up to four wives, while polygamy has no limits in the OT and NT:

      

    Jesus allowed polygamy:

    Matthew 19
    9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman
    a similar commits adultery.

    Notice "another woman" got crossed. This is because the word "woman" is not there in the Greek, and the word for "another" also means similar. If we look at the Greek in https://biblehub.com/lexicon/matthew/19-9.htm, we'll find this:

      

    ἄλλην (allēn) 243: other, another

    If you click on 243, you'll see its definition: "another of the same kind; another of similar type."


    (Click on image to enlarge)

    It is quite ludicrous that the one and only verse that prohibits polygamy is not even talking about polygamy.  Jesus warned against marrying already-married women irrespective of whether the man is single or married.  This is further proven in:

      

    Matthew 5:31-32
    31 "It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'
    32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness,
    causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

    A man can marry multiple women, while the woman can only marry one man.  Here Jesus warns that unlawful divorces will cause women, who would still be remaining married while thinking they've been divorced, to commit adultery.  They would still be married to their former husbands.

    Keep in mind also that the men that Jesus was speaking to had many polygamists amongst them.  So if Jesus was to prohibit polygamy, he would've said that if any married man after today marries another woman then he commits adultery.  But no, he didn't even talk about polygamy at all.

      

    Polygamy was Commanded by GOD:

    In the OT, polygamy is not only allowed, but it was also commanded by GOD in some cases [1].

      
      

    Paul and Jesus allowed polygamy:

    Paul also allowed polygamy to the masses, and Jesus in other verses also allowed it to the masses.  This is further discussed at: www.answering-christianity.com/ntpoly.htm.  This article thoroughly proves that polygamy is indeed allowed in the New Testament, and that Christianity is built on false inspirations and "conjecture", exactly as Allah Almighty said in the Glorious Quran [1] about the religion of conjecture [1], Christianity.  Again, it is quite ludicrous that the one and only verse that prohibits polygamy is not even talking about polygamy.  This false religion of conjecture makes sinful things lawful and lawful things sinful [2] [3].  And that in itself is a blasphemy against GOD Almighty.

      

      
    Islam is the Divine Truth:

    Islam is GOD Almighty's Divine Truth.  To be 100% sure about this, visit:

  • The Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles.
  • What is Islam?
  • Marriage in Islam.  Early-Islam's Muta marriage [1] is also covered here.
      
  • From www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm:

    245 Womanizing and womanizers are condemned in the Glorious Quran.  Allah Almighty said:

    "It is not lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things.  (The Noble Quran, 33:52)"

    Throughout the entries above, we've seen how Allah Almighty commanded the Muslim men and women to:

    1-  Be always chaste.
    2-  To lower their gazes.
    3-  To never be sexually enticing or tempting.
    4-  To never even put disbelievers into any trial or temptation.
    5-  To always be upright and a great moral example to all of mankind.
    6-  To always do what is right and condemn what is wrong.

    Islam does not condone womanizers.  Neither the Prophet was a womanizer, nor does Islam condone womanizing.  Islam honors marriage and considers its covenant to be a "Solemn Covenant". (ميثاقا غليظا).  This ميثاقا غليظا  was mentioned three times throughout the Glorious Quran:

    1-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took between Him and His Prophets.

    2-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took with the Jews on the holiness of the Sabbath.

    3-  The ميثاقا غليظا between the husband and the wife in Islam.

    See Noble Verses 4:21, 4:154, 33:7.

    33:52, 4:21, 4:154, 33:7

      

      

     


    Now, to any knowledgeable person in Islamic studies, and to any person who knows just how strict and conservative the Divine and Truthful Religion of Islam regarding chastity and prohibition of lust, fornication, adultery and homosexuality, it becomes quite apparent to the person that Sam Shamoun is a hopeless case.  He strives on writing gibberish and desperate nonsense that only occupies space without really providing any real Truth what so ever.

     

    The following response will be divided into the following sections:

    1-   Lesbianism and homosexuality in Islam.

    2-  Muslim men and women must remain Chaste.

     

     

    1-  Lesbianism and homosexuality in Islam:

    To any person with the least atom of a brain, the following Noble Verses clearly refute his lie regarding Islam allegedly allowing lesbianism or homosexuality in general:

    "If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or God ordain for them some (other) way.   (The Noble Quran, 4:15)"   If the lesbian woman or women repent, then she or they would be set free.  See proof.

    "If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for God is Oft-returning, Most Merciful.   (The Noble Quran, 4:16)"   The punishment is 100 stripes.  See proof.

    "Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

    "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: Ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.  (The Noble Quran, 7:81)"

    "Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant!  (The Noble Quran, 27:55)"

    "Let no (Muslim) man guilty of adultery or fornication marry and but a (Muslim) woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever (pagan woman): nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman: to the Believers such a thing is forbidden. And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors; unless they repent thereafter and mend (their conduct); for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 24:3-5)"

    "We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you?  (The Noble Quran, 7:80)"

    "(We also sent) Lut (as an apostle): behold, He said to his people, "Do ye do what is shameful though ye see (its iniquity)?  (The Noble Quran, 27:54)"

    "A sura which We have sent down and which We have ordained in it have We sent down Clear Signs, in order that ye may receive admonition. The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.  (The Noble Quran, 24:1-2)"

    "Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils).  (The Noble Quran, 17:32)"

    "O Prophet! When believing women come to thee to take the oath of fealty to thee, that they will not associate in worship any other thing whatever with God, that they will not steal, that they will not commit adultery (or fornication), that they will not kill their children, that they will not utter slander, intentionally forging falsehood, and that they will not disobey thee in any just matter,- then do thou receive their fealty, and pray to God for the forgiveness (of their sins): for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 60:12)"

     

    2-  Muslim men and women must remain Chaste:

    Chastity in Islam is well defined in the Noble Quran.  It is not just limited to sexual intercourse.  It includes everything that deals with and promotes sex and sexual excitement!  Talking loose, flirting, dressing inappropriately, promoting sexual and evil thoughts in the society are all condemned in the Noble Quran:

    "And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards God, that ye may attain Bliss.  (The Noble Quran, 24:31)"

    "For Muslim men and women,- for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in Charity, for men and women who fast (and deny themselves), for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in God's praise,- for them has God prepared forgiveness and great reward.  (The Noble Quran, 33:35)"

    "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),  (The Noble Quran, 24:33)"

    "If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess: And God hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable: They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours: when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.   (The Noble Quran, 4:25)"

    "Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

    "This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).  (The Noble Quran, 5:5)"

    "She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"  (The Noble Quran, 19:20)"

    "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste(The Noble Quran, 19:28)"

    "And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;-  (The Noble Quran, 24:4)"

    "Those who slander chaste women, indiscreet but believing, are cursed in this life and in the Hereafter: for them is a grievous Penalty,-  (The Noble Quran, 24:23)"


    There are few important points to notice here, especially in Noble Verse 24:31 above:

    1-   Allah Almighty Commanded the Muslim women to look down when approaching men and to guard their modesty.

    2-   They must cover their bodies and only reveal their beauty to their husbands and few other relatives.

    3-   Out of stranger males, they can only uncover their hair in front of little children who "have no sense of the shame of sex".

    4-  Women can not "strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments."  In other words, do not flirt!

     

    I think point #3 pretty much sums it all up!

     

    The fact, from among stranger males, that women can only display the parts of their bodies that are above the shoulders to little children who don't know anything about sex, PROVES without doubt that lesbianism is illegal in Islam.

    The sick pornographic and polytheist trinitarian pagan's point, Sam Shamoun that is, is simply that since lesbians' sex is not done by uniting the penis and the vagina together, or by inserting the penis into a vagina, then Islamically it is not forbidden.  Since the two women would obviously have only vaginas, and since the Christian Western made "porn toys" didn't exist 1500 years ago, then to pornographic bible follower, the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", sex between the two women in all its forms is legal.

    What this pornographic polytheist trinitarian pagan doesn't realize is that the "shame of sex" that Allah Almighty talked about regarding the little boys, it would obviously include a condemnation of the two women having an inappropriate relationship with each others, even including just a loose and flirty talk directed at each others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).   Let alone having a physical sexual relationship. 

      

      

    Can not see the nakedness of others:

    'Abd al-Rahman, the son of Abu Sa'id al-Khudri, reported from his father: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:  "A man should not see the private parts of another man, and a woman should not see the private parts of another woman, and a man should not lie with another man under one covering, and a woman should not lie with another woman under one covering.   (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Menstruation (Kitab Al-Haid), Book 003, Number 0667)"

    Even bringing suspicion of being a homosexual, fornicator, adulterer or adulterous against yourself is forbidden in Islam.  This is perfectly summed up in this Noble Verse:

    "Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

    And to answer Sam Shamoun's silly points regarding lesbianism:

     

    Doesn't "a woman should not see the private parts of another woman" soundly debunk your trash?

     

    The Prophet's Commands are a must to follow according to the Noble Quran:

    The authentic Sunnah (the way the Prophet lived) and Hadiths (Sayings of the Prophet) of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  There are ample Noble Verses in the Noble Quran that Command the Muslims to follow not only the Noble Quran, but also the Commands of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him:

    "O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination.  (The Noble Quran, 4:59)"

    "God did confer a great favour on the believers when He sent among them an apostle from among themselves, rehearsing unto them the Signs of God, sanctifying them, and instructing them in Scripture and Wisdom, while, before that, they had been in manifest error.  (The Noble Quran, 3:164)"

    "Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and beware (of evil): if ye do turn back, know ye that it is Our Apostle's duty to proclaim (the message) in the clearest manner.  (The Noble Quran, 5:92)"

    "(We sent) clear proofs and the scriptures. Now, We have sent you this reminder (Qur’an) so that you may demonstrate the revelations to them. Perhaps they may reflect and ponder!  (The Noble Quran, 16:44)"

    "When there comes to them some matter touching (Public) safety or fear, they divulge it. If they had only referred it to the Apostle, or to those charged with authority among them, the proper investigators would have Tested it from them (direct). Were it not for the Grace and Mercy of God unto you, all but a few of you would have fallen into the clutches of Satan.  (The Noble Quran, 4:83)"

    "Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper.  (The Noble Quran, 7:157)"

    "Say: "Obey God, and obey the Apostle: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Apostle's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).  (The Noble Quran, 24:54)"

    "So establish regular Prayer and give regular Charity; and obey the Apostle; that ye may receive mercy.  (The Noble Quran, 24:56)"

    "Ye have indeed in the Apostle of God a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in God and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of God.  (The Noble Quran, 33:21)"

    "It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by God and His Apostle to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys God and His Apostle, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.  (The Noble Quran, 33:36)"

    "The Day that their faces will be turned upside down in the Fire, they will say: "Woe to us! Would that we had obeyed God and obeyed the Apostle! (The Noble Quran, 33:66)"

    "It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered an apostle from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-  (The Noble Quran, 62:2)"

    "So obey God, and obey His Apostle: but if ye turn back, the duty of Our Apostle is but to proclaim (the Message) clearly and openly.  (The Noble Quran, 64:12)"

    Most of these Noble Verses were taken from Combat Kit To Use Against the "Quran Only" Muslims.
     

     

    The whole point of the veil is not just to have a scarf covering the woman.  It also includes living a chaste and a non-loose and non-flirty life!  That is why Allah Almighty even prevented women from striking their feet on the ground to make noise that would draw attention to them, so that men would think that they are trying to draw inappropriate attention to them, such as flirting, as shown in point #4 above.

    And it's not just women who are Commanded to live a Chaste life.  Men too are Commanded to live it, and to avoid causing evil in the society in all ways.  This is mentioned in Noble Verse 33:35 above.

    Women by nature can very dangerous, just as men by nature can be extremely brainless and stupid when they're sexually too high.  Perhaps that is why we see much emphasis on women's' appearances than men in the Noble Quran.  To men, a decent shirt and decent pants would do just fine as far as the outside "Chaste" looks are concerned.  But to women, it can get much more complicated.

    So to prevent some women from abusing their natural and magical beauty and attraction to men, Allah Almighty made it compulsory upon them to cover up, so that they won't eventually become satan's tools to destroy the Chastity of the Muslim society, as it is the case with the pornographic and sexually open christian societies today!  Their women have no problem exposing 99% of their bodies through wearing bikinis, sometimes even topless bikinis, on the beaches.   Their men and women have no problem in having sex without marriage.  They have no problem in corrupting their children and legitimizing to them their illegal ways, etc....

    So with all of this in mind, it is now clear that it is the intentions and the actions that are done to promote them, that really matter.  Anyone like this polytheist trinitarian pagan and his team of corrupt infidels can act very stupid and twist the Text of the Noble Quran as they please, such as legalizing lesbianism.  But they can only fool themselves!

     

    I think the reader can now clearly see just how much of a total joke Sam Shamoun really is.

     

     

     

    I can simply stop here!

    The Noble Verses above have clearly and indisputably debunked the polytheist trinitarian pagan's gibberish article and points.  I can simply stop here and end the rebuttal and defeat his "challenge".  But for the sake of having fun, I will continue to debunk him below to further prove to the reader why I have created the special "Dumpster Section" for him and his team and why I keep shoving them, every once in a while, in it.

    It's laughable articles of this type, from the ludicrous team of the so-called "Answering Islam", that have absolutely no place in the scholarship world, which need to be tossed away and thrown in the dumpster.  That's exactly what's happening tonight to Sam Shamoun, to his so-called "article" and to his soundly debunked "open challenge".

     

     

    He wrote:

    God’s true Word, the Holy Bible, explicitly condemns the practice of homosexuality, lesbianism, and bestiality:

    "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. And you shall not lie with any beast and defile yourself with it, neither shall any woman give herself to a beast to lie with it: it is perversion." Leviticus 18:22-23 RSV

    "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them... If a man lies with a beast, he shall be put to death; and you shall kill the beast." Leviticus 20:13, 15 RSV

    "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error." Romans 1:26-27 RSV

    "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV

    "Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the glorious gospel of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted." 1 Timothy 1:8-11 ESV

    The Holy Bible also refers to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and their neighboring cities, due to their evil and wickedness, which included homosexuality:

    "Then the LORD said, ‘Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomor'rah is great and their sin is very grave, I will go down to see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry which has come to me; and if not, I will know.’" Genesis 18:20-21 RSV

    "The two angels came to Sodom in the evening; and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and bowed himself with his face to the earth, and said, ‘My lords, turn aside, I pray you, to your servant's house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise up early and go on your way.’ They said, ‘No; we will spend the night in the street.’ But he urged them strongly; so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house; and they called to Lot, ‘Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.’ Lot went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him, and said, ‘I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Behold, I have two daughters who have not known man; let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please; only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof.’ But they said, ‘Stand back!’ And they said, ‘This fellow came to sojourn, and he would play the judge! Now we will deal worse with you than with them.’ Then they pressed hard against the man Lot, and drew near to break the door. But the men put forth their hands and brought Lot into the house to them, and shut the door. And they struck with blindness the men who were at the door of the house, both small and great, so that they wearied themselves groping for the door." Genesis 19:1-11 RSV

    "just as Sodom and Gomor'rah and the surrounding cities, which likewise acted immorally and indulged in unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire." Jude 1:7 RSV

    This is where we get the term sodomy and sodomite in connection to homosexuality.

     

     

    My response:

     

    First of all, in regards to Genesis 18 & 19, see my thorough refutation to the trinity lie that was invented using them.

    Also, visit: Where in the Bible is lesbianism prohibited? and see how I proved that the NT verses above only spoke about males' homosexuality and not women's lesbianism!

    Note:  The topic of bestiality (humans having sex with animals) had been covered further below in this article.

      

      

    This section will be divided into two sub-sections:

    1-   The Old Testament's laws.

    2-   The Bible is corrupt according to its theologians.

     

     

    1-  The Old Testament's laws:

    First of all, many laws in the Old Testament are too harsh and impossible to live by.   Christians also claim that they don't have to follow the Old Testament, which is something I refuted along time ago.   But as far as following the OT, if you wish to follow it, then you must also follow the following:

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/abrogation_in_bible.htm:

    "And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.  (Exodus 21:17)"

    "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.  (Leviticus 20:9)"

    "And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.  (Leviticus 24:16)"

     

    The whole section from the same link reads like this:

    2-  Christians abrogating the Bibles:

    1-  Eating swine while it is prohibited in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

     

    "And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you.  You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.  (Leviticus 11:7-8)"


    There goes your Christmas and Easter ham and pork. 

    It amazes me how the polytheist trinitarian pagan christians are the world's biggest consumers of pork meat!

    Talk about respecting GOD Almighty and obeying His Divine Will!

     

    2-  Not following the Social Laws of the Old Testament.  If you believe that you don't have to follow the OT's Social Laws, then I must ask you:

    1-  Can you marry your father's former wife?

    2-  Can you marry your own sister?

    3-  If you're a Hindu (male Hindus are allowed to marry their sisters' daughters) and you just recently embraced Christianity, then are you allowed to marry your sister's daughter whom you probably fell in love with before or at least had strong feelings toward, or was probably spoken for, when she was young while you were a Hindu?

    4-  Can you marry your son's former wife, or daughter's former husband, if you're a dad or mom?

    5-  CAN YOU MARRY YOUR OWN MOTHER????


    The New Testament hardly contains any social law.  It certainly doesn't address any of the questions I raised!  Only the Old Testament is thorough and contains all of the Social Laws that define the limits of marriage and relationships and other social issues.


    For points #1&2 above, if the polytheist trinitarian pagans EAT PORK because it is not prohibited in the NT, then SHOULDN'T that also allow for them to start marrying their own siblings (brothers and sisters) or their nieces and nephews, OR EVEN THEIR OWN PARENTS??

    I mean, who's really to say no if the NT doesn't prohibit it!!

    HECK, they're now allowing for men to marry men and women to marry women!

    What's next?  Marry your own dog because the New Testament doesn't say no?! 

    You think some christians wouldn't do it?




    So if you now agree with me that you must follow the Old Testament's Social Laws, then shouldn't you also follow the following:

    "And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.  (Exodus 21:17)"

    "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.  (Leviticus 20:9)"

    "And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.  (Leviticus 24:16)"


    Renegades/Apostates:  Must they be killed?

    "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people.    (Deuteronomy 13:6-9)"

    "And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, .....and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die.    (Deuteronomy 17:3-5)"


    Very confusing, isn't it?

     

    Please visit:  Christians are Commanded to follow the Old Testament.

     

     

    2-  The Bible is corrupt according to its theologians!

    Also, your "Bible" is not the Original Holy and Pure Word of GOD Almighty.  It is a rewrite of men's words and interpretations.  The book does contain both Truth and man's corruption, alteration and fabrications in it.

    Ironically, these are not my own words!  Your own bible theologians and historians openly and clearly admit to this fact.  Plus the overwhelming amount of historical and textual contradictions that exist in the bible also testify to the corruption and man's alteration and fabricated lies in it.


    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/bible_quran_differences.htm:

    4-  Irrefutable Proofs that the Bible had been altered and corrupted by man:

    Let us look at Jeremiah's claim about the Bible being altered to fit their purpose and cover up their shame:

    How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.   (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

    As we clearly see, the Jews had altered the Law of the LORD (i.e., the Revelations sent to Moses) and turned it into a "lie".    Let us further examine the history of the Bible and read the quotes of many of the Bible's theologians:


    From www.answering-christianity.com/contra.htm:

    The original manuscripts had been lost!

    "Christians readily admit, however, that there have been 'scribal errors' in the copies of the Old and New Testament. It is beyond the capability of anyone to avoid any and every slip of the pen in copying page after page from any book, sacred or secular. Yet we may be sure that the original manuscript (better known as autograph) of each book of the Bible, being directly inspired by God, was free from all error. Those originals, however, because of the early date of their inception no longer exist."

    "Because we are dealing with accounts which were written thousands of years ago, we would not expect to have the originals in our possession today, as they would have disintegrated long ago. We are therefore dependent on the copies taken from copies of those originals, which were in turn continually copied out over a period of centuries. Those who did the copying were prone to making two types of scribal errors. One concerned the spelling of proper names, and the other had to do with numbers."

    "Most Christians will affirm that the Bible is our rule of faith and practice. It is a little self contradictory to stand in the pulpit and say the word of God is inspired, when in his heart the pastor knows he is not referring to any book here on this earth that people can hold in their hands and believe. He really should say what he believes - that the word of God WAS inspired at one time but we no longer have it, so the best we can do is hope we have a close approximation of what God probably meant to tell us."

    "It also seems a bit inconsistent to say he believes the originals were inspired, when he has never seen them, they never were together in one single book and they no longer exist anyway. How does he know they were inspired? He accepts this by faith. Yet he seems to lack the faith to actually believe that God could do exactly what He said He would do with His words. God said He would preserve them and that heaven and earth would pass away but His words would not pass away."

     

    From www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm:

    Irrefutable contradictions, and proofs that the original authors of today's Bible are UNKNOWN!

    Muslims and Christians both agree that the Noble Quran does not agree with today's Bible in everything.  Just because the Bible might disagree on something in the Noble Quran, it doesn't at all negate the claim of the Noble Quran or make it false.  There is a certain flow of logic that the Noble Quran presents which we the Muslims believe that it is the truth.

    The Bible's contents today were not written by their original authors.  For example, we read from the book of Matthew so many verses such as this one:

    "...And as Jesus passed forth thence, HE (Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and HE (Jesus) saith unto HIM (Matthew), follow ME (Jesus) and HE (Matthew) arose, and followed HIM (Jesus). (Matthew 9:9)"

    Did "Matthew" write this about himself? Why then didn't Matthew write for example: "he (Jesus) saw ME, and my name is Matthew. I was sitting at the receipt of custom…" etc.

    Similarly, we read in the books of Moses things such as "And the LORD said to Moses...", or "Moses went to that place....", etc...  We also read in the Old Testament about Moses' burial.  Now if Moses alone supposedly wrote his books, then how is it possible for him to write about his own burial when he is already dead??!!

    Such evidence can be found in many places throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament.  The so called "Original letters/Gospels" that were written in Greek and Hebrew, were written by third party people!


    Consider the following few examples that consist of historical contradictions in the Bibles:

     

    II Samuel 10:18 talks about David slew the men of 700 chariots of the Syrians and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
    I Chronicles 1:18 says that David slew the men of 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen

    I Chronicles 9:25 says that Solomon had 4000 stalls for horses and chariots.
    I Kings 4:26 says that he had 40,000 stalls for horses

    Ezra 2:5 talks about an exile Arah having 775 sons.
    Nehemiah 7:10 talks about the same exile Arah having 652 sons.

    II Samuel 24:13 So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
    I Chronicles 21:11 SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destryed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

    How did Judas die?
    "And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
    "And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (Acts 1:18)

    2 Samuel 6:23 Therefore MICHAL the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.
    2 Samuel 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of MICHAL the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite.

    2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
    2 Chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

    26th year of the reign of Asa I Kings 16:6-8
    36th year of the reign of Asa I 2 Chronicles 16:1

    How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
    22 in 2 Kings 8:26
    42 in 2 Chronicle 22:2

    Who was Josiah's successor?
    Jehoahaz - 2 Chronicle 36:1
    Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11

    Also, your original scriptures are all doubtful according to the Bible's own theologians and historians.  It's quite hilarious that even the Bible itself admits that it has been tampered with and corrupted by man's garbage:

    "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

    The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.   (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

    And regarding who wrote the books and gospels of the Bible, as I quoted above, here is a sample of what the NIV Bible's theologians and historians wrote:

    "Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark.  They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark.  His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost.  (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"

    "Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1643)"

    "The writer of this letter does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients.   (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1856)"

    "The letter is difficult to date with precision....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)"

    "It seems safe to conclude that the book, at least in its early form, dates from the beginning of the monarchy. Some think that Samuel may have had a hand in shaping or compiling the materials of the book, but in fact we are unsure who the final author or editor was.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 286)"

    "Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"

    "The date of the composition is also unknown, but it was undoubtedly during the monarchy.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"

    "The author is unknown. Jewish tradition points to Samuel, but it is unlikely that he is the author because the mention of David (4:17,22) implies a later date.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 360)"

    "Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368)"

    "There is little conclusive evidence as to the identity of the author of 1,2 Kings.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"

    "Whoever the author was, it is clear that he was familiar with the book of Deuteronomy.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"

    "According to ancient Jewish tradition, Ezra wrote Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (see Introduction to Ezra: Literary Form and Authorship), but this cannot be established with certainty.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 569)"

    "Although we do not know who wrote the book of Esther, from internal evidence it is possible to make some inferences about the author and the date of composition.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 707)"

    "The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources....(From the NIV Bible commentary, page 722)"

    "Regarding authorship, opinions are even more divided....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 773)"

    etc...

    How do you respond to this?


    Please visit: Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible, and see exactly what I mean, instead of acting like a total fool and saying things that even the Bible refutes in it!

    It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers.  Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption.  I have their personal quotes in that site.


    Also, as to the parts of the Bible that Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

    After that, please visit:  Prophet Muhammad was foretold in many places in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.


    It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers.  Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption.  I have their personal quotes in that site.

    You can not disprove Islam by presenting stories from the Bible that are not narrated the same from the Noble Quran. We Muslims believe that there are many disagreements in today's Bible, and that the Noble Quran should be the Bible that the Jews and the Christians should follow.

    Allah Almighty said in the Noble Quran in Noble Verse 11:110 "We (Allah) certainly gave the Book To Moses, but differences Arose therein: had it not been That a Word had gone forth Before from thy Lord, the matter Would have been decided Between them: but they Are in suspicious doubt Concerning it."

    "Previous revelations have been corrupted and deprived of their spiritual value by their followers' vain controversies and disputes. It was possible to settle such disputes under the flag, as it were, or the old Revelations, but Allah's Plan was to revive and rejuvenate His Message through Islam, amongst a newer and younger people, unhampered by the burden of age-old prejudices.

    There is always in human affairs the conflict between the old and the new, the worn out system of our ancestors, and the fresh living spring of Allah's inspiration fitting in with new times and new surroundings.  The advocates of the former look upon this latter not only with intellectual doubt but with moral suspicion, as did the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) upon Islam, with its fresh outlook and vigorous realistic way of looking at things." [2]

     

     

     

    He wrote:

    The Quran, on the other hand, only vaguely refers to homosexuality in connection with Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah. We have shown why even Lot’s story doesn’t conclusively condemn homosexuality, at least as far as the Quran is concerned, in another rebuttal: www../Responses/Menj/homosexual.htm.

    In that same article, we also dealt with surah 4:16, a passage brought up by Muslims such as Osama Abdallah below, showing that it does not refer to the punishment of homosexuals, at least not explicitly.

    But for argument’s sake, let us concede that these passages do condemn homosexuality, this still leaves us with the problem of the Quran never explicitly condemning either lesbianism or bestiality.

     

     

    My response:


    Note:  The topic of bestiality (humans having sex with animals) had been covered further below in this article.


    Also again, I'd like to ask the reader to visit:  Where in the Bible is lesbianism prohibited?  I proved from Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy1:10, Romans 1:18-32, Deuteronomy 23:17, Leviticus 20:15 and Leviticus 20:16 that lesbianism is totally condoned in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    First of all, as the reader clearly sees above, the Noble Quran doesn't "vaguely refer to homosexuality".  It clearly condemns it.  Not only that, but those who try to get "wild" and "colorful" with their corruptions and ideas as your pornographic and lustful christian societies are today, end up suffering a great deal of punishment by GOD Almighty:

    "Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

    "Let no (Muslim) man guilty of adultery or fornication marry and but a (Muslim) woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever (pagan woman): nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman: to the Believers such a thing is forbidden. And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors; unless they repent thereafter and mend (their conduct); for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 24:3-5)" 

    Not only will they get flogged as you will see in the Noble Verses below, but they will be forbidden from marrying Muslims!  If one wishes to become a queer (homosexual), or if one has sex with his sister or she had sex her brother, or niece or nephew, etc... for him or her, then they will be treated as disbelievers and they will not live comfortable among Muslims, because they can't practically become part of them, such as marrying from them, which is something big deal to humans in life.

     

    So no, a man or woman can not become a homosexual!

     


    Also, as I mentioned above:

    To any knowledgeable person in Islamic studies, and to any person who knows just how strict and conservative the Divine and Truthful Religion of Islam regarding chastity and prohibition of lust, fornication, adultery and homosexuality, it becomes quite apparent to the person that Sam Shamoun is a hopeless case.  He strives on writing gibberish and desperate nonsense that only occupies space without really providing any real Truth what so ever.

     

    The following response will be divided into the following sections:

    1-   Lesbianism and homosexuality in Islam.

    2-  Muslim men and women must remain Chaste.

     

     

    1-  Lesbianism and homosexuality in Islam:

    To any person with the least atom of a brain, the following Noble Verses clearly refute his lie regarding Islam allegedly allowing lesbianism or homosexuality in general:

    "If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or God ordain for them some (other) way.   (The Noble Quran, 4:15)"   If the lesbian woman or women repent, then she or they would be set free.  See proof.

    "If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for God is Oft-returning, Most Merciful.   (The Noble Quran, 4:16)"   The punishment is 100 stripes.  See proof.

    "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: Ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.  (The Noble Quran, 7:81)"

    "Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant!  (The Noble Quran, 27:55)"

    "Let no (Muslim) man guilty of adultery or fornication marry and but a (Muslim) woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever (pagan woman): nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman: to the Believers such a thing is forbidden. And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors; unless they repent thereafter and mend (their conduct); for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 24:3-5)"

    "Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

    "We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you?  (The Noble Quran, 7:80)"

    "(We also sent) Lut (as an apostle): behold, He said to his people, "Do ye do what is shameful though ye see (its iniquity)?  (The Noble Quran, 27:54)"

    "A sura which We have sent down and which We have ordained in it have We sent down Clear Signs, in order that ye may receive admonition. The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.  (The Noble Quran, 24:1-2)"

    "Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils).  (The Noble Quran, 17:32)"

    "O Prophet! When believing women come to thee to take the oath of fealty to thee, that they will not associate in worship any other thing whatever with God, that they will not steal, that they will not commit adultery (or fornication), that they will not kill their children, that they will not utter slander, intentionally forging falsehood, and that they will not disobey thee in any just matter,- then do thou receive their fealty, and pray to God for the forgiveness (of their sins): for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 60:12)"

     

    2-  Muslim men and women must remain Chaste:

    Chastity in Islam is well defined in the Noble Quran.  It is not just limited to sexual intercourse.  It includes everything that deals with and promotes sex and sexual excitement!  Talking loose, flirting, dressing inappropriately, promoting sexual and evil thoughts in the society are all condemned in the Noble Quran:

    "And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards God, that ye may attain Bliss.  (The Noble Quran, 24:31)"

    "For Muslim men and women,- for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in Charity, for men and women who fast (and deny themselves), for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in God's praise,- for them has God prepared forgiveness and great reward.  (The Noble Quran, 33:35)"

    "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),  (The Noble Quran, 24:33)"

    Even bringing suspicion of being a homosexual, fornicator, adulterer or adulterous against yourself is forbidden in Islam.  This is perfectly summed up in this Noble Verse:

    "Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

    "If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess: And God hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable: They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours: when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.   (The Noble Quran, 4:25)"

    "This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).  (The Noble Quran, 5:5)"

    "She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"  (The Noble Quran, 19:20)"

    "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste(The Noble Quran, 19:28)"

    "And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;-  (The Noble Quran, 24:4)"

    "Those who slander chaste women, indiscreet but believing, are cursed in this life and in the Hereafter: for them is a grievous Penalty,-  (The Noble Quran, 24:23)"


    There are few important points to notice here, especially in Noble Verse 24:31 above:

    1-   Allah Almighty Commanded the Muslim women to look down when approaching men and to guard their modesty.

    2-   They must cover their bodies and only reveal their beauty to their husbands and few other relatives.

    3-   Out of stranger males, they can only uncover their hair in front of little children who "have no sense of the shame of sex".

    4-  Women can not "strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments."  In other words, do not flirt!

     

    I think point #3 pretty much sums it all up!

     

    The fact, from among stranger males, that women can only display the parts of their bodies that are above the shoulders to little children who don't know anything about sex, PROVES without doubt that lesbianism is illegal in Islam.

    The sick pornographic and polytheist trinitarian pagan's point, Sam Shamoun that is, is simply that since lesbians' sex is not done by uniting the penis and the vagina together, or by inserting the penis into a vagina, then Islamically it is not forbidden.  Since the two women would obviously have only vaginas, and since the Christian Western made "porn toys" didn't exist 1500 years ago, then to pornographic bible follower, the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", sex between the two women in all its forms is legal.

    What this pornographic polytheist trinitarian pagan doesn't realize is that the "shame of sex" that Allah Almighty talked about regarding the little boys, it would obviously include a condemnation of the two women having an inappropriate relationship with each others, even including just a loose and flirty talk directed at each others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).   Let alone having a physical sexual relationship.

     

    This is further proven in the following Hadith:

    'Abd al-Rahman, the son of Abu Sa'id al-Khudri, reported from his father: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:  "A man should not see the private parts of another man, and a woman should not see the private parts of another woman, and a man should not lie with another man under one covering, and a woman should not lie with another woman under one covering.   (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Menstruation (Kitab Al-Haid), Book 003, Number 0667)"

    Even bringing suspicion of being a homosexual, fornicator, adulterer or adulterous against yourself is forbidden in Islam.  This is perfectly summed up in this Noble Verse:

    "Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

    And to answer Sam Shamoun's silly points regarding lesbianism:

     

    Doesn't "a woman should not see the private parts of another woman" soundly debunk your trash?

     

    The Prophet's Commands are a must to follow according to the Noble Quran:

    The authentic Sunnah (the way the Prophet lived) and Hadiths (Sayings of the Prophet) of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  There are ample Noble Verses in the Noble Quran that Command the Muslims to follow not only the Noble Quran, but also the Commands of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him:

    "O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination.  (The Noble Quran, 4:59)"

    "God did confer a great favour on the believers when He sent among them an apostle from among themselves, rehearsing unto them the Signs of God, sanctifying them, and instructing them in Scripture and Wisdom, while, before that, they had been in manifest error.  (The Noble Quran, 3:164)"

    "Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and beware (of evil): if ye do turn back, know ye that it is Our Apostle's duty to proclaim (the message) in the clearest manner.  (The Noble Quran, 5:92)"

    "(We sent) clear proofs and the scriptures. Now, We have sent you this reminder (Qur’an) so that you may demonstrate the revelations to them. Perhaps they may reflect and ponder!  (The Noble Quran, 16:44)"

    "When there comes to them some matter touching (Public) safety or fear, they divulge it. If they had only referred it to the Apostle, or to those charged with authority among them, the proper investigators would have Tested it from them (direct). Were it not for the Grace and Mercy of God unto you, all but a few of you would have fallen into the clutches of Satan.  (The Noble Quran, 4:83)"

    "Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper.  (The Noble Quran, 7:157)"

    "Say: "Obey God, and obey the Apostle: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Apostle's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).  (The Noble Quran, 24:54)"

    "So establish regular Prayer and give regular Charity; and obey the Apostle; that ye may receive mercy.  (The Noble Quran, 24:56)"

    "Ye have indeed in the Apostle of God a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in God and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of God.  (The Noble Quran, 33:21)"

    "It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by God and His Apostle to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys God and His Apostle, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.  (The Noble Quran, 33:36)"

    "The Day that their faces will be turned upside down in the Fire, they will say: "Woe to us! Would that we had obeyed God and obeyed the Apostle!(The Noble Quran, 33:66)"

    "It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered an apostle from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-  (The Noble Quran, 62:2)"

    "So obey God, and obey His Apostle: but if ye turn back, the duty of Our Apostle is but to proclaim (the Message) clearly and openly.  (The Noble Quran, 64:12)"

    Most of these Noble Verses were taken from Combat Kit To Use Against the "Quran Only" Muslims.
     

     

    The whole point of the veil is not just to have a scarf covering the woman.  It also includes living a chaste and a non-loose and non-flirty life!  That is why Allah Almighty even prevented women from striking their feet on the ground to make noise that would draw attention to them, so that men would think that they are trying to draw inappropriate attention to them, such as flirting, as shown in point #4 above.

    And it's not just women who are Commanded to live a Chaste life.  Men too are Commanded to live it, and to avoid causing evil in the society in all ways.  This is mentioned in Noble Verse 33:35 above.

    Like I mentioned above in the article, women by nature can very dangerous, just as men by nature can be extremely brainless and stupid when they're sexually too high.  Perhaps that is why we see much emphasis on women's' appearances than men in the Noble Quran.  To men, a decent shirt and decent pants would do just fine as far as the outside "Chaste" looks are concerned.  But to women, it can get much more complicated.

    So to prevent some women from abusing their natural and magical beauty and attraction to men, Allah Almighty made it compulsory upon them to cover up, so that they won't eventually become satan's tools to destroy the Chastity of the Muslim society, as it is the case with the pornographic and sexually open christian societies today!  Their women have no problem exposing 99% of their bodies through wearing bikinis, sometimes even topless bikinis, on the beaches.   Their men and women have no problem in having sex without marriage.  They have no problem in corrupting their children and legitimizing to them their illegal ways, etc....

    So with all of this in mind, it is now clear that it is the intentions and the actions that are done to promote them, that really matter.  Anyone like this polytheist trinitarian pagan and his team of corrupt infidels can act very stupid and twist the Text of the Noble Quran as they please, such as legalizing lesbianism.  But they can only fool themselves!

     

    I think the reader can now clearly see just how much of a total joke Sam Shamoun really is.

     

     

    He wrote:

    Osama Abdallah, of Answering Christianity, has sought to prove me wrong by showing that the Quran does condemn lesbianism (*). Ignoring his venomous slurs and assault, especially on Christian women (i.e. claiming that more than 95% of Christian women are "whores and sluts"), Osama writes:

    My response to this loser:

    Of course lewdness doesn't mean anything to you since perhaps most, if not all, of the single women in your christian community from family and friends are non-virgins.  I can clearly see why to a brainless pervert like you, lewdness is nothing, since you failed to see that lewdness in the Noble Verse 4:15 above does automatically include lesbianism and all of the other forms of sexual sinnings [sic] too.   Your failure and carelessness are all due to the way you and most christians today are raised.  Fornication with a boyfriend or girlfriend is not even considered a sexual sin.  It is a personal choice and freedom.  Hilarious indeed.

    Allah Almighty not only condemns homosexuality, fornication and adultery in the Noble Quran, but He [sic] Almighty also Commands all Muslims to remain Chaste:


    Fornication, Adultery and Homosexuality:

    "Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils).  (The Noble Quran, 17:32)"

    "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.  (The Noble Quran, 24:2)"

    "Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry and but a woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever: nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman: to the Believers such a thing is forbidden.  (The Noble Quran, 24:3)"

    "O Prophet! When believing women come to thee to take the oath of fealty to thee, that they will not associate in worship any other thing whatever with God, that they will not steal, that they will not commit adultery (or fornication), that they will not kill their children, that they will not utter slander, intentionally forging falsehood, and that they will not disobey thee in any just matter,- then do thou receive their fealty, and pray to God for the forgiveness (of their sins): for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 60:12)"

    "If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or God ordain for them some (other) way.   (The Noble Quran, 4:15)"   If the lesbian woman or women repent, then she or they would be set free.  See proof.

    "If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for God is Oft-returning, Most Merciful.   (The Noble Quran, 4:16)"

    "We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you?  (The Noble Quran, 7:80)"

    "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: Ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.  (The Noble Quran, 7:81)"

    "(We also sent) Lut (as an apostle): behold, He said to his people, "Do ye do what is shameful though ye see (its iniquity)(The Noble Quran, 27:54)"

    "Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant!  (The Noble Quran, 27:55)"

    Muslim men and women must remain Chaste:

    "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),  (The Noble Quran, 24:33)"

    "If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess: And God hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable: They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours: when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.   (The Noble Quran, 4:25)"

    "This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).  (The Noble Quran, 5:5)"

    "She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"  (The Noble Quran, 19:20)"

    "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste(The Noble Quran, 19:28)"

    "And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;-  (The Noble Quran, 24:4)"

    "Those who slander chaste women, indiscreet but believing, are cursed in this life and in the Hereafter: for them is a grievous Penalty,-  (The Noble Quran, 24:23)"

    RESPONSE:

    In the first place, even though the Quran condemns adultery in certain instances, it does permit it in other circumstances:

    Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath God ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property, - desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and God is All-knowing, All-wise. S. 4:24 Y. Ali

    This passage makes it lawful for men to have sex with married women who are owned by Muslims as slaves, whether by captivity or by purchase.

    In fact, there is a passage which implicitly permits prostitution under certain circumstances:

    And let those who do not find the means to marry keep chaste until Allah makes them free from want out of His grace. And (as for) those who ask for a writing from among those whom your right hands possess, give them the writing if you know any good in them, and give them of the wealth of Allah which He has given you; and do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, WHEN THEY DESIRE TO KEEP CHASTE, in order to seek the frail good of this world's life; and whoever compels them, then surely after their compulsion Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. S. 24:33 Shakir

    The way this passage is worded one can easily conclude that prostitution is only a sin when the slave girl desires chastity. Otherwise, if she does not desire to be chaste then it is okay for her to prostitute herself for gain. This understanding is supported by the fact that Muhammad allowed his followers to contract temporary marriages (called Muta in Arabic) for the sole purpose of sexual gratification, an obvious form of prostitution. The verse used to justify Muta is actually the very one used above which permits adultery in specific situations:

    [Forbidden to you] are married woman, except what your right hand possesses. This Allah has written for you, and all other women besides these are permitted to you, so that you may seek them out with your wealth, seeking chastity and not fornication. So when you have contracted temporary marriage [istimt'atum] with them, then give them their words. There is no sin on you for whatever you agree to after this. Indeed, Allah is Knowing, Wise. S. 4:24

    The word, istimta'tum, is the verbal form of the word Mutah. Now, there must be women who are willing to sleep with Muslim men under the guise of temporary marriages for money. This is where prostitution comes in, i.e. slave girls who would be willing to sleep with these men for money or material goods!

    {Note: Although Sunni Muslims claim that this practice of temporary marriages has been canceled, Shia Muslims disagree (cf. http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/mutah/en/index.php). Thus, there are thousands of Muslims till this very day who engage in what is nothing more than prostitution!}

     

     

    My response:

    Again, I'd like to ask the reader to visit:  Where in the Bible is lesbianism prohibited?  I proved from Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy1:10, Romans 1:18-32, Deuteronomy 23:17, Leviticus 20:15 and Leviticus 20:16 that lesbianism is totally condoned in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

     

    This section will be divided into the following sub-sections:

    1-   Slavery and the ending of slavery in Islam.

    2-   Having sex with slaves, and even FORCING 3-year old slave girls into sex, in the bible!

    3-   The Laws of Islam regarding slave women compared to the bible.

     

     

    1-  Slavery and the ending of slavery in Islam:

    Ok, now this is where Sam Shamoun is getting really stupid, with all due respect to the reader.  He first tried to prove lesbianism in the Noble Quran.  After I soundly debunked his silly point for him, he is now turning into slaves and the days of slavery during the early days of Islam. 

    To the reader, Islam came to gradually end the Judeo-Christian and Pagan slavery that dominated Arabia and the world back then!  I will shortly post the Noble Verses from the Noble Quran that clearly prove this.

    In regards to my comment on the christian women being 95% sluts and whores, I still stand by this comment!  The beaches where they expose 99% of their bodies and the tight cloths that they wear, along with the "boy-friend girl-friend" sexual relationships without marriage all prove that they are sinful, and that the christian societies are all fornicators and adulterers.  Compare this garbage to the Chaste Muslim women, and you'll clearly see that my comment is very well justified.

    Anyway back to the "Right hand Possessions" in Islam (slave women), both the Noble Quran and Sam Shamoun's bible allow for the masters to have sex with their slave girls.  So Sam Shamoun's dump point is refuted by his very own gospel of porn bible where it says that women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine":

     

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/incomplete_rebuttal.htm#slavery:

    The example of ending slavery in Islam:

    Perhaps the best example I can provide regarding Laws developing gradually in the Noble Quran is the ending of the Judeo-Christians' and Pagans' slavery in Arabia.  Let us look at the following Noble Verses:

     

    Slavery seems to be allowed:

    Note:  "Right hand possession" are the human-captives of war who lived as slaves among Muslims.

    "Serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For God loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-  (The Noble Quran, 4:36)"

    "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.  (The Noble Quran, 4:3)"

    "Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath God ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and God is All-knowing, All-wise.  (The Noble Quran, 4:24)"

    "If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess: And God hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable: They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours: when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 4:25)"

     

    Freeing of slaves is Commanded by Allah Almighty:

    "It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness to believe in God and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the God-fearing.  (The Noble Quran, 2:177)"

    "Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (Is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have treaty of Mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed. For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to God: for God hath all knowledge and all wisdom.  (The Noble Quran, 4:92)"

    "God will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth God make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful.  (The Noble Quran, 5:89)"

    "But those who divorce their wives by Zihar, then wish to go back on the words they uttered, (It is ordained that such a one) should free a slave before they touch each other: Thus are ye admonished to perform: and God is well-acquainted with (all) that ye do.  (The Noble Quran, 58:3)"

    Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari:  "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom).(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

    Narrated Asma: "No doubt the Prophet ordered people to manumit slaves during the solar eclipse.    (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Eclipses, Volume 2, Book 18, Number 163)"

    "'Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that 'Umar b. Khattab asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as he was at ji'rana (a town near Mecca) on his way back from Ta'if: Messenger of Allah, I had taken a vow during the days of Ignorance that I would observe I'tikaf for one day in the Sacred Mosque. So what is your opinion? He said: Go and observe I'tikaf for a day. And Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) gave him a slave girl out of the one-fifth (of the spoils of war meant for the Holy Prophet). And when Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) set the war prisoners free. 'Umar b. Khattab heard their voice as they were saying: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has set us free. He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: What is this? They said: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has set free the prisoners of war (which had fallen to the lot of people). Thereupon he (Hadrat 'Umar) said: Abdullah, go to that slave-girl and set her free.  (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4074)"

     

    If a slave requests his freedom from the Muslim master, he can get it:

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/equality.htm:

    First, it is important to know that thousands of years ago life was different than today.  Today, people wouldn't accept slavery for any reason.  The reason for this is because people are a lot more independent both financially, education wise, mentally, etc...  But people back then were different.  When a tribe or a group of people lose a major battle and their money is mostly, if not all, is taken as war booty by the other side, then people could and would accept being slaves for the following reasons:

    1-  Both financial and social security. When their country or tribe lost the war, they also lost most or all of their money as war booty.  Being out of money and food, it becomes necessary for an individual to find the means for basic survival in life.  Living as a slave would provide this.

    2-  Protection from hostile individuals. Even under the Islamic rule, you can still find hostile individuals who violate the Law and take matters into their own hands. An enemy family can be sometime in danger if they don't have a "protector".

    3-  Widows, Orphans, and the extremely poor of the enemy side need the financial and social protection from a Master.  Back then, there were no governments with good social system that protects everyone. Slavery back then was that social system in special cases.

    There are probably more points I can add, but I think these are sufficient enough. Let us now see the Islamic System toward Slaves:

    Yes slaves were taken from the blood-thirsty and hostile enemies, but they were also given the right to get their freedom when ever they want.  The Noble Quran not only allows slaves to request their freedom from their Muslim masters, but also orders the Muslim masters to pay the slaves money to help them stand on their feet and to be able to face life with a good jump start.

    Let us look at Noble Verse 24:33 "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),"    In this Noble Verse, we see that if a slave requests his freedom from his Muslim master, then his master not only must help him earn his freedom if there is good in the Slave, but also pay him money so the slave can have a good start in his free life.

    "The law of slavery in the legal sense of the term is now obsolete.  While it had any meaning, Islam made the slave's lot as easy as possible.    A slave, male or female, could ask for conditional manumission by a written deed fixing the amount required for manumission and allowing the slave meanwhile to earn money by lawful means and perhaps marry and bring up a family.  Such a deed was not to be refused if the request was genuine and the slave had character.  Not only that, but the master is directed to help with money out of his own resources in order to enable the slave to earn his or her own liberty." [3]

    Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said:

    Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari:  "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom).(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

     

    The Bottom line is:

    The bottom line is that in order for the Muslims to remain as a purified and GOD Almighty-fearing and obeying society, one of the requirements that they had to accomplish was to gradually and completely eliminate slavery - the same slavery that was at its peak during the Jews', Christians' and Pagans' times.

    For more details, please visit:  Human equality and freedom in Islam VS the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

     

     

     

    2-  Having sex with slaves, and even FORCING 3-year old slave girls into sex, in the bible!

     

    A Father can sell his daughter as a slave girl to other men:

    Exodus 21:7-8
    7 When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.
    8 If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.


    Raping of 3-year old slave girls:

    Numbers 31:17-18
    "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

    Aside from the killing of innocent children, which happened before also in the bible as shown in the next set of verses, but the historical elaborations from the Jews' Talmud regarding the events that took place in verses Numbers 31:17-18 say that Moses and his men forced into sex 3-year old slave girls:

     

    "....The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers in §157 comments on the above quoted commandment of MOSES to kill the Midianite women as well as the male children...."

    "....According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, MOSES therefore had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day, because they were "suitable for having sexual relations." [138]...."

    "Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse....."

    "A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. "A girl three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse," the words of R. Meir. And sages say, "Three years and one day old."....."

    (https://www.answering-christianity.com/age3.htm)

    Bibliography:

    [131] Ibid., vol.XXI.A-D, Tractate Bava Mesia, Atlanta: Scholars Press 1990, p.ix-x.

    [132] Ibid., vol.XXIII.B, Tractate Sanhedrin 1984, 150. See also vol.XIX.A, Tractate Qiddushin 10a-b, 1992, 33. "Menstruating" here of course refers to the ritual "flux uncleanness" described in Lev.15.

    [133] Ibid., vol.XXV.A, Tractate Abodah Zarah, 1991, 168. Emphasis original.

    [134] J. Neusner, The Talmud of Babylonia. A complete outline, Part IV. The Division of Holy Things. B. Number 37. 1995, 704.

    [135] Neusner 1993, 41.

    [136] Neusner 1995, 7.

    [137] Kuhn 1959, §157, 652f. My translation. In general, proselytes are not allowed to marry into the priesthood.

    [138] Ibid., §157, footnote 86, 653.

    (https://www.answering-christianity.com/age3.htm)

     

    Slaves and the generations that come after them are all to be inherited forever:

    Leviticus 25:44-46
    "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly." 

     

     

     

    3-  The Laws of Islam regarding slave women compared to the bible.

     

    Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:  "Musaykah, a slave-girl of some Ansari, came and said: My master forces me to commit fornication. Thereupon the following verse was revealed: "But force not your maids to prostitution (when they desire chastity). (24:33)"  (Translation of Sunan Abu Dawud, Divorce (Kitab Al-Talaq), Book 12, Number 2304)"

    In Islam, men are not allowed to rape their slave-girls.  Allah Almighty clearly prohibited it in Noble Verse 24:33.  In Islam, slavery is also not allowed.  Please visit The liberation of slaves in Islam, to see how Islam gradually ended the Judeo-Christian and pagan slavery.

     

    Why did Allah Almighty make lawful for Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with the married women whom are captives of war?

    The sections of this article are:

    1-   Why did Allah Almighty make lawful for Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with the married women from the captives?
    2-   The reasons behind why Allah Almighty allowed such a law.
    3-   In Islam, the Muslims have to be very kind to their slaves.

    4-   Can a slave request his freedom from his Muslim owner? Yes, and the Muslim master has to grant him/her their freedom according to the Noble Quran.

    5-   Captivity was really brutal before Islam among the Pagans and the teachings of the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

    6-  Does the Bible order its followers to inherit the slaves and their children? Yes, the Bible commands to keep the slaves forever and to inherit them to your children too.

    7-   The entire Bible is corrupted anyway according to its Theologians!
    8-   Can a Muslim man rape his slave woman?
    9-   Can a Muslim man rape his domestic maid girl?
    10- Response to the "Proofs" that men can rape their slave-girls in Islam.


     

     

    1-  Why did Allah Almighty make lawful for Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with the married women from the captives?

    Let us look at the following Noble Verses from the Noble Quran:

    "Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-  

    Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath God ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and God is All-knowing, All-wise. (The Noble Quran, 4:23-24)"

    The definition of the term "right hands possess" is "Captives of war".  Those from among the population of the tribes who fought the Muslims are considered "right hand possessions" if their tribe is defeated and captured.

    We first need to understand that back 1400 years ago, when Islam was growing among the Pagan Arab Tribes, the Muslims were at constant wars with the Pagans. The Pagan tribes highly objected to the presence and the rapid growth of Islam, and they all united to fight Islam and finish it once and for all.

    During those days, the Muslims did not have any government.  Governments provide welfare and protection to people.  Back then, and when there was no Islamic Government yet, the Muslims were their own country and were their own government. Everyone had to share in the responsibility DIRECTLY by sheltering the captives of wars at their homes. 

     

     

    2-  The reasons behind why Allah Almighty allowed such a law:

    The following was sent to me by brother Zakaria B Hj Mokhtar; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

    Assalamualaykum,   

    Brother Osama,   

    I'm referring to your justifications that Allah Almighty had made lawful for Muslims to have sexual intercourse with the married women whom are captives of war. According to a footnote of a Malay translated Holy Quran by H. Zainuddin Hamidy and Fachruddin, Klang Bookstore, Malaysia, 1955, with reference to sura 33:26, 

    [al-Ahzab 33:26] And He brought those of the People of the Scripture who supported them down from their strongholds, and cast panic into their hearts. Some ye slew, and ye made captive some.,

    the footnote read as follows:

    'The punishment toward (the Jewish tribe) Banu Quraizah who betrayed and assisted the allies was handed down by Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to Sa'ad bin Mu'ads.   The verdicts: They were sentenced to death, the women were made slaves (captives), and their lands were divided among the Muhajirins.  The decision was made as such based on the laws of the Old Testament, Deuteronomy 20:13-14

    '13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: 

    14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. 

    Thank you.

     

     

    3-  In Islam, the Muslims have to be very kind to their slaves:

    Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him ordered his followers to be kind to their slaves: Narrated Al-Ma'rur: At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears.  Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.'   (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 2, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29)"

    To me, this Saying by our beloved Prophet means a lot. It proves that not only to treat with kindness those who fought us bloody battles and tried to destroyed Islam once and for all, and caused so much deaths for Muslims, but to also treat them as BROTHERS/SISTERS, and to feed them from the same food that we eat from and to dress them from the cloths that we wear.  This is quite respectful to humanity and to mankind.

    Also, Allah Almighty encouraged the Muslims to liberate Slaves and the Captives of Wars (right hands possessions) whenever possible.  Let us look at Noble Verse 4:92 "Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If  one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (Is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have treaty of Mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed.   For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to God: for God hath all knowledge and all wisdom." In this Noble Verse, we see that Allah Almighty ordered to free a believing slave if a Muslim accidentally kills another Muslim. This Noble Verse came to encourage Muslims to liberate slaves.

    Let us look at Noble Verse 5:89 "God will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave [either a believing or non-believing slave] his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days.  That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth God make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful." This Noble Verse is also another proof that Allah Almighty did encourage Muslims to liberate slaves. 

    Let us look at Noble Verse 58:3 "But those who divorce their wives by Zihar, then wish to go back on the words they uttered, (It is ordained that such a one) should free a slave [either believing or non-believing slave] before they touch each other: Thus are ye admonished to perform: and God is well-acquainted with (all) that ye do." This Noble Verse is another proof that Allah Almighty did encourage Muslims to liberate slaves.

    There are more Noble Verses that push for the liberation of slaves.  But the above Noble Verses should be sufficient enough to prove my point.

     

     

    4-  Can a slave request his freedom from his Muslim owner?

    The Noble Quran not only allows slaves to request their freedom from their Muslim masters, but also orders the Muslim masters to pay the slaves money to help them stand on their feet and to be able to face life with a good jump start. 

    Let us look at Noble Verse 24:33 "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),"  In this Noble Verse, we see that if a slave requests his freedom from his Muslim master, then his master not only must help him earn his freedom if there is good in the Slave, but also pay him money so the slave can have a good start in his free life. 

    Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him also said:

    Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari:  "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom).(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

    Islam came to liberate all slaves and to end the Judeo-Christian and Pagan slavery that was practiced before Islam.  When Allah Almighty made lawful for the Muslim men to have sex with their slave women, He did it to keep the Islamic society back then during Islam's weak, partial and venerable times under control.

    Now that after we've seen how Islam orders the Muslims to free the slaves whenever it is possible and also whenever the Slave requests his/her freedom, and to treat them as our brothers and sisters, then it is quite obvious that Islam is a religion that DOES NOT LIKE SLAVERY AND ENSLAVING PEOPLE.

    We can now look at how Muslims can live with their Captives of Wars to understand the situation better.  Back in those days, in most cases of battles, the defeated tribe would have lost many of its men in the battle field, leaving behind the elderly, women and their children.

    Everyone is now living under the Islamic ruling. Islam is never to be forced upon any human being; "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error....(The Noble Quran, 2:256)"  Also "Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it)....(The Noble Quran, 18:29)"   Every captured Pagan Arab had the freedom to continue following his/her religion as they wish.  However, since now they lived under the Islamic ruling, and they showed a great deal of offense to the Muslims, by declaring wars on the Muslims along with the rest of the Arab Pagan tribes, and lost so many of their men and money for the war, then their situation now is quite different.

    For those of the Pagans who could afford to pay "Jizya" or "Taxes", then they would not be Captives of War and their life would continue as it was. However, for those who could not afford to pay "Jizya" or "Taxes", then they would be taken as Captives of War. They would serve the Muslims and the new ruling that they live in, until they bring back the losses that they brought to the Muslims.

    Keep in mind that Allah Almighty allowed for the Captives of Wars to request and be granted their Freedom as shown in the Noble Verse 24:33 above. 

    Those Captives of Wars while living with the Muslims, would be treated with kindness. Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him described them as the Muslims' BROTHERS/SISTERS as shown in the Saying above and the Muslims must feed them from the same food that they eat and dress them from the same cloths that they wear. But since they are now living in captivity to make up for the damage that they caused to the Muslims from money and lives, they can be treated as slaves, and in slavery, the master can sleep with any of his women that he desires.

    Also, in the Bible's Deuteronomy 20:13-14, in which it clearly gives orders to kill all the men and to take all of the women and children as slaves.  No where in the Noble Quran do we have any order to kill any innocent life.

    Please visit Slavery in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

     

     

    5-  Captivity was really brutal before Islam among the Pagans and the teachings of the Bibles:

    Rabbi Joseph said: 'Come and hear. A maiden aged 3 years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition.' Mishnah: A girl of the age of 3 years and a day may be betrothed, subject to her father's approval, by sexual intercourse. ...Gemara: Our Rabbis taught: 'A girl of the age of 3 years may be betrothed by sexual intercourse.' "

    Please visit Girls having sexual intercourse at the age of 3!  According to the Jewish Holiest Book, the Talmud.

    Also, the Bible clearly allows for fathers to sell their daughters as slaves: "And in case a man should sell his daughter as a slave girl, she will not go out in the way that the slave men go out. If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master so that he doesn't designate her as a concubine but causes her to be redeemed, he will not be entitled to sell her to a foreign people in his treacherously dealing with her.  (Exodus 21:7-8)"

    Islam prohibits such awful acts to be done to little babies of that age, because Allah Almighty said clearly in the Noble Verse where He permits Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with their Captives of War to "desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them...(4:24)"

    Also, according to Islam, a girl is not allowed to have sexual intercourse, nor to get married before she has her first period and is capable of getting pregnant. A girl according to Islam can not be called a "Woman" or a young "Woman" until she has her first period and is capable of getting pregnant.  Notice that in Noble Verse 4:24, Allah Almighty is clearly talking about "Women" and not just "Females".  Also, no sexual intercourse experience can be practiced with either kids or men.

    Also, in the Bible's Deuteronomy 20:13-14, in which it clearly gives orders to kill all the men and to take all of the women and children as slaves.  No where in the Noble Quran do we have any order to kill any innocent life.

    Please visit Slavery in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

     

     

    6-   Does the Bible order its followers to inherit the slaves and their children?

    Let us look at Leviticus 25:44-46 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly." 

    What kind of a human value does the Bible give to slaves?   If slaves and their children must be inherited and passed down to newer generations as slaves, then how in the world will they ever gain their freedom?  Does the Bible believe in Freedom?  Does the Bible believe in liberating human beings from slavery?   Apparently it does not!

    As we've seen above, Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran allows for slaves to request their freedom from their Muslim Masters and be granted their freedom and be given money on top of it to help them get a good jump start in life.  The Bible on the other hand, orders for slaves and their children to be inherited forever.

    Also, in the Bible's Deuteronomy 20:13-14, in which it clearly gives orders to kill all the men and to take all of the women and children as slaves.  No where in the Noble Quran do we have any order to kill any innocent life.

    Please visit Slavery in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

     

     

    7-  The entire Bible is corrupted anyway according to its Theologians!

    We must know that the Bible can not be trusted.  Let us look at what the Theologians and Historians of the NIV Bible say about the books of the Bible, and how they were corrupted by the scribes:

    "...portions of the book were probably added by scribes or editors from later periods of Israel's history...  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 183)"

    (www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm)

    Please visit this site to see detailed quotes from the NIV Bible's Theologians and Historians admitting that most of the Bible's books and gospels were indeed corrupted by men and were not True Revelations from GOD Almighty.

    The Jewish scribes had very badly corrupted the Bible and turned it into a big lie.    That is why GOD Almighty said:

    "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)

    "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.   (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

    In either translation above, we clearly see that the Bible has too many narrated stories and man-made cultural laws that were inserted into it that were not Divine Revelations from GOD Almighty.  The following sites have tons of details that prove that [1], [2], [3], [4].

    It's quite obvious that the Bible is more like a man made cultural book than a divine book that is meant to be for all times and all places.  Anyway, the Bible was not even written by its original authors.  That is why you see things such as "And Moses went up to the mountain...." instead of "And I [Moses] went up to the mountain....", or "And Jesus said to Matthew...." instead of "And Jesus said to me [Matthew]...."  Most of the Books and Gospels of the Bible were written by third party people that were not even chosen by GOD, which makes the Bible just a cultural history book rather than a divine book from GOD Almighty.  Please see Question #3 to see why Allah Almighty allowed for the Bible of today to be corrupted.

     

     

    8-  Can a Muslim man rape his slave woman?

    Below are three English translations to the Noble Verse where Allah Almighty commands the Muslim men to not force their slave women into sex.

    The following translations were taken from http://mama.stg.brown.edu/webs/quran_browser/pqeasy.shtml

    Translation: Yusufali:
    "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),  (The Noble Quran, 24:33)"

    Translation: Pickthall:
    "And let those who cannot find a match keep chaste till Allah give them independence by His grace. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), write it for them if ye are aware of aught of good in them, and bestow upon them of the wealth of Allah which He hath bestowed upon you. Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, if they would preserve their chastity. And if one force them, then (unto them), after their compulsion, lo! Allah will be Forgiving, Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 24:33)"

    Translation: Shakir:
    "And let those who do not find the means to marry keep chaste until Allah makes them free from want out of His grace. And (as for) those who ask for a writing from among those whom your right hands possess, give them the writing if you know any good in them, and give them of the wealth of Allah which He has given you; and do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, when they desire to keep chaste, in order to seek the frail good of this world's life; and whoever compels them, then surely after their compulsion Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 24:33)"

    In all three translations, we clearly see that if the slave woman desires to keep chaste, then her Muslim master must not compel her into sex.  It might sound odd to us today, but pagans back then were used to having sex with and raping their slave girls, even the ones who were married:

    Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:  "Musaykah, a slave-girl of some Ansari, came and said: My master forces me to commit fornication. Thereupon the following verse was revealed: "But force not your maids to prostitution (when they desire chastity). (24:33)"  (Translation of Sunan Abu Dawud, Divorce (Kitab Al-Talaq), Book 12, Number 2304)"

    In Islam, men are not allowed to rape their slave-girls.  Allah Almighty clearly prohibited it in Noble Verse 24:33.  In Islam, slavery is also not allowed.  Please visit The liberation of slaves in Islam, to see how Islam gradually ended the Judeo-Christian and pagan slavery.

    I was told by a Muslim scholar before along time ago that the Arab pagans used to sometimes offer their wives for several nights to the rich and powerful men in the tribe to win their support and make them become more secured in the monopolizing and unmerciful pagan society.

    So to women back then, it was something normal for a married slave woman to sleep with her master.  It was something normal in the society at that time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

    Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran not only allows for the slave man or woman to earn their freedom from their Muslim master, and receive money from their Muslim master to help them start their free life, but also commands the Muslim men to not compel their slave women into sex. 

    Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him also said:

    Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari:  "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom).(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

    Islam came to liberate all slaves and to end the Judeo-Christian and Pagan slavery that was practiced before Islam.  When Allah Almighty made lawful for the Muslim men to have sex with their slave women, He did it to keep the Islamic society back then during Islam's weak, partial and venerable times under control.

    Also, if any compulsion was made unto the slave woman, then Allah Almighty will add more mercy and forgiveness unto her in the Day of Judgement.  Below is the commentary on this exact section and point in Noble Verse 24:33 by Minister (Sheikh) Abdullah Yusuf Ali; may Allah Almighty rest his soul:

    "The poor unfortunate girls, who are victims of such a nefarious trade (i.e., slave trade), will yet find mercy from Allah, whose bounties extend to the lowest of His creatures." [2]

    There are other Noble Verses in the Noble Quran where Allah Almighty grants forgiveness and mercy to those who had been forced into illegal things:

    "He hath only forbidden you Dead meat, and blood, And the flesh of swine, And that on which Any other name hath been invoked Besides that of Allah.   But if one is forced by necessity, Without willful disobedience, Nor transgressing due limits -- Then is he guiltless.  For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 2:173)"

    "Why should ye not Eat of (meats) on which Allah's name hath been Pronounced, when He hath Explained to you in detail What is forbidden to you -- Except under compulsion Of necessity?  But many do mislead (men) By their appetites unchecked By knowledge.  Thy Lord Knoweth best those who transgress.   (The Noble Quran, 6:119)"

    So the answer to the question is:  No, the Muslim man can not rape his slave woman according to the commands of Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran.

    Important Note:  Please read the "Response to the "Proofs" that men can rape their slave-girls in Islam" section toward the bottom of this article for more proofs.

    Also, in the Bible's Deuteronomy 20:13-14, in which it clearly gives orders to kill all the men and to take all of the women and children as slaves.  No where in the Noble Quran do we have any order to kill any innocent life.

    Please visit Slavery in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

     

     

    9-  Can a Muslim man rape his domestic maid girl?

    The following is an email I received from Becky; may Allah Almighty lead her to Islam.  Her points are preceded with "Becky-" and my responses are preceded with "Osama-".

    Subj:    Deliberate Deception
    Date:    12/4/01 8:59:54 AM Central Standard Time
    From:    becky@emirates.net.ae (Becky)
    To:    ISLM4EVR1@aol.com

    Mr. Osama

    I have not yet got a reply from you for this mail I am still waiting

    Becky- If a young innocent and helpless house maid (domestic helper) wants to preserve her chastity or remain a virgin and keep herself pure Allah says to his followers not to force them to prostitution, however if someone forces them into prostitution or forces them to lose their chastity (rapes them) he can do this heinous crime under the secure knowledge that Allah will be forgiving and merciful,

    Osama- Mrs. Becky, I first of all want to apologize for taking 4 months to reply to your email.  This sometimes happens when I receive difficult requests. 

    Now as to Noble Verse 24:33, it doesn't apply to domestic maids today.  It was revealed to deal with the captives of war.  Please read the "Can a Muslim man rape his slave woman?" section above which I just recently added for more details.

    Becky- UNBELIEVABLE If you say that Allah being forgiving and merciful refers to the maid then this would be a sick joke because someone raped or forced into prostitution does not need forgiveness and mercy but and justice and dignity, this is clearly a license and protection offered to the offender. 

    Osama- This is all fine in our standards today.  But if you had to start a religion by yourself as Prophet Muhammad did through the commands of Allah Almighty, and face 365 opposing Pagan Arab tribes, then the situation is quite different.  

    The Muslims had no Islamic State to take care of their social issues and the Captives of war.  Muslims had to divide the responsibility among themselves.  It is also important to know that Muslims were much merciful to their slaves than the Jews, Christians and the Pagan Arabs.  I don't have to remind you of the Bible's Deuteronomy 20:13-14, in which it clearly gives orders to kill all the men and to take all of the women and children as slaves.  No where in the Noble Quran do we have any order to kill any innocent life Becky.

    Please visit The Bible is corrupt according to its Historians and Theologians.

    Again, please read the "Can a Muslim man rape his slave woman?" section above which I just recently added, to see how Allah Almighty commands the Muslim men to grant the freedom to those slaves who request it and to pay them money on top of it.  You will also see how Allah Almighty commanded the Muslim men to not force their maids into sex.   You will also see how Allah Almighty in Noble Verse 24:33 and other Noble Verses grants forgiveness and mercy to those who had been forced into illegal things.

    Please visit Human rights and equality in Christianity and Islam.

    Becky- Now lets see how the Muslim scholars translating the Quran deal with this issue

    Pickthall, an-Nur 24:33
    Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, if they would preserve their chastity. And if one force them, then (unto them), after their compulsion, lo! Allah will be Forgiving, Merciful.

    Shakir, an-Nur 24:33
    and do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, when they desire to keep chaste, in order to seek the frail good of this world's life; and whoever compels them, then surely after their compulsion Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    Yusufali, an-Nur 24:33
    But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

    The first two translators clearly state that Allah is and will be forgiving and merciful to the offenders, while Mr. Yusufali clearly embarrassed by such an unimaginable prospect tries to escape by twisting his translation to appear like a question is God merciful to them (the offenders)? A sentence cannot be a statement and a question at the same time it has to be only one

    1. If the later part of an-Nur 24:33 is a statement then Yusufali has deliberately twisted his translation to look like a question thereby deceiving the reader of the Quran.

    2. And if it is a question then both translators Pickthall and Shakir have deliberately tried to malign the name of Allah by making him the protector of those who commit heinous crimes against the most helpless beings on earth

    Osama- The Abdullah Yusuf Ali translation is not raising a question.  The "is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them)," is referring to the mercy and forgiveness that Allah Almighty will further grant the victim:

    "The poor unfortunate girls, who are victims of such a nefarious trade (i.e., slave trade), will yet find mercy from Allah, whose bounties extend to the lowest of His creatures." [2]

    Again, please read the "Can a Muslim man rape his slave woman?" section above which I just recently added, to see how Allah Almighty commands the Muslim men to grant the freedom to those slaves who request it and to pay them money on top of it.  You will also see how Allah Almighty commanded the Muslim men to not force their maids into sex.   You will also see how Allah Almighty in Noble Verse 24:33 and other Noble Verses grants forgiveness and mercy to those who had been forced into illegal things.

    Becky- Only one of the two can be correct so please let me know which one and also I dare you to post this on your web site along with the reply you send (if any) in response to the above. 

    Osama- All three translations are the same Becky, with the exception that Abdullah Yusif Ali translation is clearer.  As to your challenge for me to post your email, I hope I satisfied it for you.

    A good answer from brother Maalik Adib to Becky; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:

    From: "maalik adib" <maalik@nycap.rr.com>
    To: <"Osama Abdallah">
    Subject: Your answer to Becky
    Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:42:22 -0500

    As-salaamu alaikum:

    Akhi, I just read your response to "Becky" and you seemed to have left out one very important fact.  The mercy and forgiveness mentioned in the Ayah is for the women who are forced into prostitution not the men. 

    Becky herself quotes the Yusuf Ali translation.  I have never seen a Yusuf Ali translation not accompanied with the commentary and even in the commentary it clearly states the following (note 2994): 

    "The poor unfortunate girls, who are victims of such a nefarious trade, will yet find mercy from Allah, whose bounties extend to the lowest of His creature." [2] 

    When you read the verse in its full context it becomes quite clear who are the subject of the mercy and forgiveness.  This is right in line with the Islamic concept of people not be held responsible when they are forced against their will to commit a sin.   If Becky has a problem with this reasoning then she can check the following verses of the Qur'aan herself: 

    "He hath only forbidden you Dead meat, and blood, And the flesh of swine, And that on which Any other name hath been invoked Besides that of Allah.   But if one is forced by necessity, Without willful disobedience, Nor transgressing due limits -- Then is he guiltless.  For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.   (The Noble Quran, 2:173)"

    "Why should ye not Eat of (meats) on which Allah's name hath been Pronounced, when He hath Explained to you in detail What is forbidden to you -- Except under compulsion Of necessity?  But many do mislead (men) By their appetites unchecked By knowledge.  Thy Lord Knoweth best those who transgress.  (The Noble Quran, 6:119)"

    In addition, the Qur'aan tells us about those who, by force, renounce their faith in Islam and that they will not be held accountable because they were forced.  This is a very clear and well know principle in Islam. Besides the verse is clear anyway. 

    If further proof is needed, again, she can simply read the Yusuf Ali commentary.   If that isn't enough, then she can also read: 

    Mawdudi's commentary (Towards Understanding the Qur'aan) Vol VI 

    or

    The Noble Qur'aan

    All three of these commentaries are in full agreement.  But if she has the Yusuf Ali translation then certainly she has seen the commentary on the verse in question.   Unless, like everyone else she is simply repeating what she heard from someone else and never actually read the entire verse at all. 

    I even read this verse to my wife without mentioning any commentary and she understood that the mercy and forgives is directed at the girls forced into prostitution not the men.

    Important Note:  Please read the "Response to the "Proofs" that men can rape their slave-girls in Islam" section toward the bottom of this article for more proofs.

    Again, in the Bible's Deuteronomy 20:13-14, in which it clearly gives orders to kill all the men and to take all of the women and children as slaves.  No where in the Noble Quran do we have any order to kill any innocent life.

    Please visit Slavery in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

     

     

    10-  Response to the "Proofs" that men can rape their slave-girls in Islam:

    The following two emails I received from Becky; may Allah Almighty lead her to Islam.  Her points are preceded with "Becky-" and my responses are preceded with "Osama-".

    From:    becky@emirates.net.ae (Becky)
    To:    ISLM4EVR1@aol.com
    Subj:    Re: From Becky to Osama Abdallah
    Date:    4/1/02 7:25:59 AM Central Standard Time

    Sorry the translation is by Dr. T.B. Irving

    What is your comment about this translation of sura 24:33 by Syed A'la Maududi

    Should those whom your right hands control desire their freedom, then draw up such a writ for them if you recognize anything worthwhile in them. Give them some of God's wealth which He has given you. Do not force your girls [whom you control] into prostitution so that you may seek the display of worldly life, if they want to preserve their chastity. Anyone who forces them (to do otherwise) [will find] God is Forgiving, Merciful, even after forcing them to.

    link http://isgkc.org/translat.htm

    Regards
    Becky

     

    From:    becky@emirates.net.ae (Becky)
    To:    ISLM4EVR1@aol.com
    Subj:    Re: From Becky to Osama Abdallah
    Date:    4/1/02 6:47:22 AM Central Standard Time

    Mr. Osama

    What is your comment about this translation of sura 24:33 by Syed A'la Maududi

    Should those whom your right hands control desire their freedom, then draw up such a writ for them if you recognize anything worthwhile in them. Give them some of God's wealth which He has given you. Do not force your girls [whom you control] into prostitution so that you may seek the display of worldly life, if they want to preserve their chastity. Anyone who forces them (to do otherwise) [will find] God is Forgiving, Merciful, even after forcing them to. 

    link http://isgkc.org/EnglishQuran/sura24.htm

    Regards
    Becky

    Osama- Well since I showed ample proofs from very reliable and most used Islamic translations and interpretations of the Noble Quran that the mercy and forgiveness that Allah Almighty will grant, He will grant it to the victim in the sections "Can a Muslim man rape his slave woman?" and "Can a Muslim man rape his domestic maid girl?" above, and your reliable Islamic sources disagree with mine, then I have one answer for this part in Noble Verse 24:33:

    1- Allah Almighty clearly and directly commands the Muslim men to honor their slave women's desire to remain chaste and to not force them into sex.

    2- (this is the controversial interpretation part) If a Muslim man however rapes or forces his slave woman into sex, then Allah Almighty will still be Forgiving and Merciful (to her according to my sources), (to him according to your sources).

    My acceptance of your reliable sources Becky would come with one addition:

    Even though Allah Almighty wanted the Muslim men to honor their slave women's desires to refusing to have sex, but He at the same time did not deprive the Muslim men the right from having sex with their slave women when they desire them.   If all of the man's slave women desire to not have sex with him, and he is prohibited to enter upon any of them because of that, then this would be a total deprivation for the man and his rights.  So, if a man makes it clear to the slave woman or women that he could and would have sex with them if he desires them, and uses some physical force if he needed to, then the message will be sent clearly to the women and he will find Allah Almighty Forgiving and Merciful for him.

    However, if the man abuses his power, and forces himself upon his slave women excessively, then he is violating Allah Almighty's command to honor the women's desires to remain chaste.

    I must remind you that Islam came to end slavery and Allah Almighty commanded the Muslims to grant their slaves their freedom if the slaves requested it:

    "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),  (The Noble Quran, 24:33)"

    Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him also said:

    Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari:  "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom).(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

    Islam came to liberate all slaves and to end the Judeo-Christian and Pagan slavery that was practiced before Islam.  When Allah Almighty made lawful for the Muslim men to have sex with their slave women, He did it to keep the Islamic society back then during Islam's weak, partial and venerable times under control.

    Again, I don't have to remind you of the Bible's Deuteronomy 20:13-14, in which it clearly gives orders to kill all the men and to take all of the women and children as slaves.  No where in the Noble Quran do we have any order to kill any innocent life.

    Please visit Slavery in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

    I hope I made my points clear without errors.

     

    Bibliography:

    1- The Meaning of the Holy Qur'an.
    Author:  Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
    Published by:  Amana Publications, 10710 Tucker Street, Suite B, Beltsville, Maryland 20705-2223 USA.
    Telephone:  (301) 595-5777.
    Fax:  (301) 595-5888.
    ISBN:  0-91597-59-0 (HC).

    2- The Meaning of the Holy Qur'an [1], foot note #2994, page 875.

     

    Further sites to research:

    Human rights and equality in Christianity and Islam.

    Women in Christianity and Islam.

    Back to Ask me any question.

     

     

     

     

    He wrote:

    Allah even justified Muhammad’s adulterous desires for his adopted son’s wife, Zaynab bint Jash, which led to his adopted son divorcing her so that Muhammad could then marry her:

    And when you said to him to whom Allah had shown favor and to whom you had shown a favor: Keep your wife to yourself and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; and you concealed in your soul what Allah would bring to light, and you feared men, and Allah had a greater right that you should fear Him. But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed. There is no harm in the Prophet doing that which Allah has ordained for him; such has been the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and the command of Allah is a decree that is made absolute: S. 33:37-38 Shakir

    Note the wording of the text carefully. Muhammad was hiding within himself what Allah supposedly was to bring to light, namely, that Muhammad was to marry his adopted son’s divorcee. This means that even before the divorce, Allah allegedly ordained that Muhammad would desire and wed a married woman, which further implies that it was Allah who caused Zaid to divorce his wife so that Muhammad could have her! No wonder Muhammad feared men!

    The authoritative Muslim historian and commentator, al-Tabari, provides the alleged historical background for these verses:

    The Messenger of God came to the house of Zayd b. Harithah. (Zayd was always called Zayd b. Muhammad.) Perhaps the Messenger of God missed him at that moment, so as to ask, "Where is Zayd?" He came to his residence to look for him but did not find him. Zaynab bt. Jash, Zayd's wife, rose to meet him. Because she was dressed only in a shift, the Messenger of God turned away from her. She said: "He is not here, Messenger of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). Come in, you who are as dear to me as my father and mother!" The Messenger of God refused to enter. Zaynab had dressed in haste when she was told "the Messenger of God is at the door." She jumped up in haste and excited the admiration of the Messenger of God, so that he turned away murmuring something that could scarcely be understood. However, he did say overtly: "Glory be to God the Almighty! Glory be to God, who causes the hearts to turn!"

    When Zayd came home, his wife told him that the Messenger of God had come to his house. Zayd said, "Why didn't you ask him to come in?" He replied, "I asked him, but he refused." "Did you hear him say anything?" he asked. She replied, "As he turned away, I heard him say: ‘Glory be to God the Almighty! Glory be to God, who causes hearts to turn!’"

    So Zayd left, and having come to the Messenger of God, he said: "Messenger of God, I have heard that you came to my house. Why didn't you go in, you who are as dear to me as my father and mother? Messenger of God, perhaps Zaynab has excited your admiration, and so I will separate myself from her." Zayd could find no possible way to [approach] her after that day. He would come to the Messenger of God and tell him so, but the Messenger of God would say to him, "Keep your wife." Zayd separated from her and left her, and she became free.

    While the Messenger of God was talking with 'A'isha, a fainting overcame him. When he was released from it, he smiled and said, "Who will go to Zaynab to tell her the good news, saying that God has married her to me?" Then the Messenger of God recited: "And when you said unto him on whom God has conferred favor and you have conferred favor, ‘Keep your wife to yourself .’"- and the entire passage.

    According to 'A'isha, who said: "I became very uneasy because of what we heard about her beauty and another thing, the greatest and loftiest of matters - what God had done for her by giving her in marriage. I said she would boast of it over us." (The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein [State University of New York Press, Albany, 1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3; bold emphasis ours)

    The following is the English translation of al-Tabari's Arabic commentary on surah 33:37:

    When the exalted Allah said, "Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favor: ‘Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah.’ But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah" this was said by Allah as chastisement to His prophet. For when He said, "one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favor" this was in reference to Zaid son of Haritha who had been set free by the apostle of Allah – prayers and peace be upon him.

    When the Exalted Allah said, "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah" this was concerning Zainab the daughter of Jash whom the prophet – pbuh – had seen in her robes and was enamored by her. Thus when Allah saw what was stirring in His prophet’s soul, he placed hatred in the heart of Zaid towards Zainab that he may depart from her. When Zaid mentioned his intention to separate from Zainab to the prophet, the prophet told him, "Retain thou thy wife" even THOUGH THE PROPHET DESIRED THAT THEY SEPARATE SO THAT HE COULD MARRY HER...

    When Allah said, "Thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest," means that the prophet hid in his heart his desire for Zaid to depart from Zainab so that he may marry her, and Allah will reveal what you are concealing in your heart concerning this.

    The Almighty said, "Thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah," because Allah was telling the prophet who feared people might say, "He ordered a man to divorce his wife so that he himself may marry her after she is divorced," and Allah aught to be feared more than people.

    Narrated by Yunis, narrated by Ibn Wahab, narrated by Ibn Zaid who said, "The prophet –pbuh– had married Zaid son of Haritha to his cousin Zainab daughter of Jahsh. One day the prophet –pbuh– went seeking Zaid in his house, whose door had a curtain made of hair. The wind blew the curtain and the prophet saw Zainab in her room unclothed and he admired her in his heart. When Zainab realized that the prophet desired her SHE BEGAN TO HATE ZAID.

    Zaid then came to the prophet –pbuh– and said, "O apostle of Allah, I wish to separate from my mate." The prophet responded, "Why? Has anything evil come from her?" Zaid responded, "No, by Allah! I haven’t seen anything evil from her only good."

    The prophet said, "Hold unto your wife and fear Allah." That is what Allah said in the Quran, "Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favor: ‘Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah.’ But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest." For the prophet was concealing the fact that he would marry Zainab when Zaid had divorced her. (Source; translated by Dimitrius)

    Here, also, are the comments of renowned Muslim commentator, al-Qurtubi, on surah 33:37, translated directly from the Arabic:

    Muqatil narrated that the prophet married Zainab daughter of Jahsh to Zaid and she stayed with him for a while. Then one day the prophet –pbuh– came seeking Zaid but he saw Zainab standing; she was white skinned with a beautiful figure and one of the most perfect women in Quraish. So HE DESIRED HER and said, "Wondrous is Allah who changes the heart." When Zaynab heard the prophet’s exaltation of her, she relayed it to Zaid who then understood (what he had to do). Zaid said to the prophet, "O prophet of Allah, allow me to divorce her, for she has become arrogant; seeing herself superior to me and she insults me with her tongue."

    The prophet replied, "Hold onto your wife and fear Allah."

    It was said that Allah had sent a wind which lifted the curtain to reveal Zainab in her room. When the prophet saw her HE DESIRED HER and it delighted Zainab to be desired by the prophet – pbuh. When Zaid returned home, she informed him of what had happened and Zaid was thus determined to divorce her. (Source; translated by Dimitrius)

    Al-Qurtubi also lists the "blessings" and privileges given to Muhammad, which even includes taking another man’s wife if he so desired:

    And any believing woman who dedicates herself to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed (Nikah) her; this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large).

    As for what was granted and made lawful (by Allah) to the prophet -pbuh- they are 16 issues:-

    "Yas-tan-kih" comes from the word "Yan’kah." For it is said in different forms "Nakaha" and "Istan-kaha" just as it is said "Ajab" and "Ista-jab"... It is permissible to use the word, "Istan-kaha," to mean one whom requests marriage or one who requests sexual intercourse. (Source)

    We also provide Al-Zamakhshari's comments on surah 33:37:

    Keep thy wife to thyself: that is, Zainab bint Jahsh. After having given her to Zaid ibn Haritha as a wife, the Messenger of God once caught sight of her, and she made an impression of him. At this sight he said: ‘Praise be to God who changes the heart!’ Previously his soul had turned away from her so that he had not desired her (as a wife). If he had desired her at that time, he would have asked her for her hand in marriage. Now Zainab heard of this praise and mentioned it to (her husband) Zaid, who understood and to whom God gave antipathy against her and aversion to intimacy with her. So Zaid said to the Messenger of God: ‘I might divorce my wife’; to which the latter replied: ‘What is it? Has something filled you with mistrust against her?’ Zaid answered: ‘By God, no! I have observed only good in her; yet her noble rank places her too high above me and causes me to feel hurt.’ Thereupon the Messenger of God said: ‘Keep thy wife to thyself and fear God.’ But Zaid (nevertheless) separated from her, and as soon as the waiting period (during which the wife may enter into no new marriage) had elapsed, the Messenger of God had said (to Zaid): ‘I have no one whom I trust more than you; therefore, seek the hand of Zainab for me!’

    Zaid reported: I went forth and there I suddenly found her just as she was leavening some dough. As soon as I saw her she made such an impression on me, since I knew that the Messenger of God had been speaking of her ...

    One may ask what the Prophet kept secret within himself. To this I answer: the fact that he was devoted to her in his heart. Others say: the wish that Zaid might separate from her. Still others say: his knowledge that Zaid would separate from her and that he would marry her, for God had already given this knowledge to him ...

    (Further) one may ask what the Prophet should have said when Zaid informed him that he wanted to separate from Zainab, since it would have been objectionable if he had said: ‘Do it, for I want to marry her!’ To this I reply: It may perhaps be God's will that in this case he keep silent or say to Zaid: ‘You know your situation best.’ In this manner he would not have contradicted his secret which he (later) indicated had been revealed ... (Helmut Gätje, The Qur'an and its Exegesis [Routledge and Keagan Paul, London UK 1976], pp. 83-85; bold emphasis ours)

    The final reference we present comes from modern Muslim writer Martin Lings:

    Such demands as these upon the Prophet's time were not to be avoided; but there was a growing need that he should be protected in other ways, and the protection that now came was not unconnected with the following altogether unexpected event which served to emphasize his uniquely privileged position. It happened one day that he wanted to speak to Zayd about something and went to his house. Zaynab opened the door, and as she stood in the doorway telling him that Zayd was out but inviting him none the less to enter, a look passed between the two cousins which made each one conscious of a deep and lasting bond of love between them. In a moment the Prophet knew that Zaynab loved him and that he loved her and that she knew he loved her. But what could this mean? Surprised at the strength of his feeling, and as he turned to go she heard him say: "Glory to God the Infinite! Glory be to Him who disposeth men's hearts!" When Zayd returned she told him of the Prophet's visit and of the glorification she had heard him utter. Zayd immediately went to him and said: "I have been told thou camest unto my house. Why didst not enter, thou who art more to me than my father and my mother? Was it that Zaynab hath found favour with thee? If it be so, I will leave her." "Keep thy wife and fear God," said the Prophet with some insistence. He had said on another occasion: "Of all things licit the most hateful unto God is divorce." And when Zayd came again the next day with the same proposal, again the Prophet insisted that he should keep his wife. But the marriage between Zayd and Zaynab had not been a happy one and Zayd found it no longer tolerable, so by mutual agreement with Zaynab he divorced her. This did not, however, make Zaynab eligible as a wife for the Prophet for although the Koran had only specified that men were forbidden to marry the wives of sons spring from their loins, it was a strong social principle not to make a distinction between sons by birth and sons by adoption. Nor was the Prophet himself eligible, for he had already four wives, the most that the Islamic law allows. (Lings, Muhammad: His Life based on the earliest Sources [Inner Traditions International, Ltd., Rochester, Vermont 1983], pp. 212-213; bold and underline emphasis ours)

    Thus, the Quran not only does not condemn adultery in every case, but actually permits it if the circumstances are ‘right’.

     

     

    My response:

    To the reader, please visit the following two articles for thorough refutations:

    1. Why is Zayd's name in the Glorious Quran?  Why did he cause for Allah Almighty to send down a Divine Law for all Muslims because of this incident?  Is Islam proven false because of it?  Is Zayd really that important to have Allah Almighty send down Divine Revelations because of him?  The Bible too has similar examples!  This article also covers the Prophet's marriage with Zaynab bint Jahsh.
        
    2. Zaynab Bint Jahsh: The Fact behind the Fiction.
        
    3. Did Prophet Muhammad really marry his daughter in law?
        
    4. Womanizing and womanizers are condemned in the Glorious Quran.

    Women in Islam and the Bible - a detailed comparison.
    Prophet Muhammad's section.
    Adulterated Material, pornography and profanity in the Bible and lies against Islam.
    Pedophilia and terrorism in the Bible.
    Womanizing and womanizers are condemned in the Glorious Quran.
    Muhammad the Womanizer?

     

      

    Is the Bible a womanizer for allowing polygamy in NT and OT? [1]

    Some amazing Bible thumping quacks declare Islam a womanizing religion for allowing polygamy for up to four wives, while polygamy has no limits in the OT and NT:

      

    Jesus allowed polygamy:

    Matthew 19
    9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman
    a similar commits adultery.

    Notice "another woman" got crossed. This is because the word "woman" is not there in the Greek, and the word for "another" also means similar. If we look at the Greek in https://biblehub.com/lexicon/matthew/19-9.htm, we'll find this:

      

    ἄλλην (allēn) 243: other, another

    If you click on 243, you'll see its definition: "another of the same kind; another of similar type."


    (Click on image to enlarge)

    It is quite ludicrous that the one and only verse that prohibits polygamy is not even talking about polygamy.  Jesus warned against marrying already-married women irrespective of whether the man is single or married.  This is further proven in:

      

    Matthew 5:31-32
    31 "It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'
    32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness,
    causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

    A man can marry multiple women, while the woman can only marry one man.  Here Jesus warns that unlawful divorces will cause women, who would still be remaining married while thinking they've been divorced, to commit adultery.  They would still be married to their former husbands.

    Keep in mind also that the men that Jesus was speaking to had many polygamists amongst them.  So if Jesus was to prohibit polygamy, he would've said that if any married man after today marries another woman then he commits adultery.  But no, he didn't even talk about polygamy at all.

      

    Polygamy was Commanded by GOD:

    In the OT, polygamy is not only allowed, but it was also commanded by GOD in some cases [1].

      
      

    Paul and Jesus allowed polygamy:

    Paul also allowed polygamy to the masses, and Jesus in other verses also allowed it to the masses.  This is further discussed at: www.answering-christianity.com/ntpoly.htm.  This article thoroughly proves that polygamy is indeed allowed in the New Testament, and that Christianity is built on false inspirations and "conjecture", exactly as Allah Almighty said in the Glorious Quran [1] about the religion of conjecture [1], Christianity.  Again, it is quite ludicrous that the one and only verse that prohibits polygamy is not even talking about polygamy.  This false religion of conjecture makes sinful things lawful and lawful things sinful [2] [3].  And that in itself is a blasphemy against GOD Almighty.

      

      
    Islam is the Divine Truth:

    Islam is GOD Almighty's Divine Truth.  To be 100% sure about this, visit:

  • The Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles.
  • What is Islam?
  • Marriage in Islam.  Early-Islam's Muta marriage [1] is also covered here.
      
  • From www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm:

    245 Womanizing and womanizers are condemned in the Glorious Quran.  Allah Almighty said:

    "It is not lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things.  (The Noble Quran, 33:52)"

    Throughout the entries above, we've seen how Allah Almighty commanded the Muslim men and women to:

    1-  Be always chaste.
    2-  To lower their gazes.
    3-  To never be sexually enticing or tempting.
    4-  To never even put disbelievers into any trial or temptation.
    5-  To always be upright and a great moral example to all of mankind.
    6-  To always do what is right and condemn what is wrong.

    Islam does not condone womanizers.  Neither the Prophet was a womanizer, nor does Islam condone womanizing.  Islam honors marriage and considers its covenant to be a "Solemn Covenant". (ميثاقا غليظا).  This ميثاقا غليظا  was mentioned three times throughout the Glorious Quran:

    1-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took between Him and His Prophets.

    2-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took with the Jews on the holiness of the Sabbath.

    3-  The ميثاقا غليظا between the husband and the wife in Islam.

    See Noble Verses 4:21, 4:154, 33:7.

    33:52, 4:21, 4:154, 33:7

      

      
      

    Bibles' Glorified incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications:

      
    Song of Songs 8:1-3
      
    1. Oh, I wish you were my brother, who nursed at my mother’s breasts. Then I could kiss you no matter who was watching, and no one would criticize me.
    2 I would bring you to my childhood home, and there you would teach me. I would give you spiced wine to drink, my sweet pomegranate wine.
    3 Your left arm would be under my head, and your right arm would embrace me.

  • "my sweet pomegranate wine"  Her wine is her vagina's wet and cum (audio clip).  He also did say that her vagina and breasts taste like "wine" (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9).
  • Song of Solomon 3:4
    Then scarcely had I left them when I found my love! I caught and held him tightly, then I brought him to
    my mother’s house, into my mother’s bed, where I had been conceived.

    Song of Solomon 7:10-12
    10 I am my lover’s, and he claims me as his own.
    11 Come, my love, let us go out to the fields and spend the night among the wildflowers.
    12 Let us get up early and go to the vineyards to see if the grapevines have budded, if the blossoms have opened, and if the pomegranates have bloomed. There I will give you my love
    (fornicate).

      

    Little sister & mom's bed:

    Song of Songs 8:8-9
    8
    We have a little sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for our sister on the day she is spoken for?

    Song of Songs 8:8
    8
    Our sister is little, and hath no breasts. What shall we do to our sister in the day when she is to be spoken to?


    What shall you (plural) do with your little sister and her little breasts?  Let me guess:
      

    Deflower her in your mentioned mother's bed?

      

    Also, is the holy book of  toilet   ספר קודש של שירותים    كتاب المرحاض المقدس  further suggesting group incestuous rape of the little sister by her praised horny siblings?
      
      




    Woke is evil Israel's invention; from the same satanic cesspool:


         


    Woke is one of Israel's lies.
      9/11 is 100% an Israeli lie
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    X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.
      

    Watch the video here.  Sam Shamoun exposes the sex scandals of many inside his inner circle.

      

      
    Their sister's vagina tastes like "wine"
    : [1] AUDIO clip
    (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9).  The Bible praises, and even promotes, incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9].  Notice "no one would criticize me" (Song of Songs 8:1), above.  A husband and wife, or even a brother and sister, would not be criticized if people saw them walking to their home.  Clearly, this is not a husband and wife relationship.  And this is the pile of dung that Jews and Christians uphold as the Holy Word of GOD Almighty??

      

    Praised Incest:
      
    The Bibles praise fornications in
    incest-like descriptions.  The brothers, little sister and mother sexing, and the vaginas taste like "wine", and a praise for group incest rape in the gospel of LGBTQ, Woke and porn:
      

      
    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':



    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs
    , and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.  Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

      

    Also Visit:

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.

    Would GOD Almighty validate falsehood?  Yes.  In 2 Samuel 12:7-12, GOD validated and commanded open pornography between David's wives and all men in town in broad day light.  See many other examples of GOD Almighty validating and commanding lies in the Bibles to purposefully lead astray the false ones, who were supposed to be otherwise Believers, into Hell Fire.  Also visit the link given in this video for more.

    Was Adam 90 feet tall?  Science supports Islam's claims.

    Mankind multiplied via cloning from Adam, not incest [1]:  Evidence that Allah Almighty created the People of Adam through Cloning.  (html backup).  Another STUNNING Scientific Claim from Islam.

    Earth Cloning:  Evidence from the Quran that Allah Almighty Created the 7 Heavens and all of their Earths from Cloning.

    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:

    www.google.com/search?q=What+are+all+the+pronouns+used+by+Lgbtq
    www.google.com/search?q=all+lgbtq+pronouns
    www.google.com/search?q=the+transgender+pronouns
    www.google.com/search?q=lgbt+hundreds+of+pronouns+animal+human
    www.google.com/search?q=non+binary+pronouns

    The links above are for LGBTQ pronouns.

      

    Human cloning and gender alteration were prophesied in Islam.

      

    Alteration of Creation Prophecy in Quran:

    The somatic cells from the ears are the most preferred ones to make cloning:  "...but somatic cells from ear clippings will be much easier to obtain and are therefore preferable."  (Source, 2, pdf (page 13 in PDF, page 4 in article)).  Notice the two phases of satan's future temptation to mankind.  Notice ولامرنهم (and I will command them) is mentioned twice for two different phases:

    Noble Verse(s) 4:119
    Arabic (Read from right to left.  Also, all png image files: [1] [2].  Quran Moral Code (100s of them)]):

    4:119 ولاضلنهم ولامنينهم ولامرنهم فليبتكن اذان الانعام ولامرنهم فليغيرن خلق الله ومن يتخذ الشيطان وليا من دون الله فقد خسر خسرانا مبينا

    Rodwell:

    [004:119]  and will lead them astray, and will stir desires within them, and will command them and they shall cut the ears of animals (phase 1: Dolly the sheep and cloning research); and I will further command them, and they shall alter the creation of God (phase 2: Cloning industry, LGBTQ, transgenders, Woke, gender alteration, they-them, he-she, she-he, Ze/Zir, Xe/Xem, Sie/Hir, They/Them, (any animal)/human, (any it)/human, etc...)." He who taketh Satan rather than God for his patron, is ruined with palpable ruin:

     

      

    Cloning began with the cutting of animals' ears:

    Satan's big battle with GOD Almighty is to cause so much evil, among them is to "cut the cattle's ears and to then further command them to alter the creation of Allah" (4:119), i.e., cloning (as this is how it began today) [1]

    Transgenders also began after Dolly the sheep's cloning.  LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) are covered below in this article.  Today they're even researching making males get pregnant, or at least plant fertilized female eggs inside them and grow the fetuses into babies.

    The alteration of Allah Almighty's creations indeed began with the cutting of the animals' ears and extracting the necessary somatic cells from them.  Dolly the sheep was the first creation to ever be cloned:

    "Dolly was a female domestic sheep, and the first mammal cloned from an adult somatic cell, using the process of nuclear transfer." (Source)

    "...but somatic cells from ear clippings will be much easier to obtain and are therefore preferable."  (Source, 2, pdf (page 13 in PDF, page 4 in article))

    Ample more quotes are below in this articleIn the pdf file, we read:

        

      

    Evidence that Allah Almighty created the People of Adam through Cloning in the Glorious Quran.  (html backup).  Cloning is mentioned in multiple places in the Glorious Quran [1], and is one of the End of Times Prophecies as well.  Cloning is definitely NOT a foreign concept in the Glorious Quran.

    Please visit:

  • The Overwhelming Numerical and Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran.
  • The Quran's and Islam's Amazing Prophecies.
      
    Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]
      

    Sheikh Hamza Yusuf (Muslim convert Mark Hanson) [1] [2] on some of Islam's most STUNNING End of Times Prophecies [1] [2] including ISIS:

         

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy.
  •   

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':



    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs
    , and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

      

       

    Allah Almighty quoted satan telling Him, the Almighty, in the Glorious Quran the following:

    4:119 ولاضلنهم ولامنينهم ولامرنهم فليبتكن اذان الانعام ولامرنهم فليغيرن خلق الله ومن يتخذ الشيطان وليا من دون الله فقد خسر خسرانا مبينا

    [004:119]  and (1) will lead them astray ولاضلنهمand (2) will stir desires within them ولامنينهمand (3) will command them ولامرنهم and (4) they shall cut the ears of animals فليبتكن اذان الانعامand (5) I will command them ولامرنهم to alter the creation of God فليغيرن خلق الله ." He who taketh Satan rather than God for his patron, is ruined with palpable ruin:

    Satan will:

    1-  Lead astray.
    2-  Stir desires.
    3-  Will command the evil ones.
    4-  They will cut the animals' ears.
    5-  Then proceed to alter the creation of GOD Almighty.

      
    Notice the fifth "and":

    (5) and I will command them ولامرنهم  to alter the creation of God فليغيرن خلق الله ."

      

    Human cloning and gender alteration were prophesied in Islam.

    Evidence from the Quran that Allah Almighty Created the 7 Heavens and all of their Earths from Cloning.

      

         
      

    Masturbating on his sister:

    Now let me ask the horny creep in Song of Songs 8:8-9How many times have you already masturbated on your sister in your thoughts?  And did you also fantasize about your mother and her bed? 

    Again, this is the pile of dung that Jews and Christians uphold as the Holy Word of GOD Almighty??

      

  • Matthew 7:22-23GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.
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    Fabricating books:

    Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran:

    "Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.  (The Noble Quran, 2:79)"

    www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

      

    Bride is not wife:

    In the Middle East, there is no "boyfriend" and "girlfriend".  If two are spoken of, or if two fall in love and want to get married, then the guy would call her his bride.  This is close enough to a fiancée.  So in this gospel of porn, when he calls her his "bride", he's not calling her his wife as the barking sodomized-by-their-priests proclaim.  It's a relationship between a boyfriend and a girlfriend.  "Bride" is a Semitic language metaphor.  In this gospel of porn, it is referring to his girlfriend.  In the chaste world of Islam, a wife is one who had sexual intercourse with her husband.  She now changed from being a bride to a wife.  A bride has not yet had sex with her groom.  They have not yet married.

    Song of Songs 4:8-12
    8 Come with me from Lebanon, my bride, come with me from Lebanon. Descend from the crest of Amana, from the top of Senir, the summit of Hermon, from the lions' dens and the mountain haunts of the leopards.
    9 You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace.
    10 How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!
    11 Your lips drop sweetness as the honeycomb, my bride; milk and honey are under your tongue. The fragrance of your garments is like that of Lebanon.
    12 You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain.

    Visit the following X-Rated pornography in the Bible article to see ample verses that thoroughly demonstrate that they were incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornicators:

  • Jesus problematic hyperboles.  Sinful became lawful, and lawful became sinful.
  • Jesus coveted the sins of the world for 40 days and nights.
  • Anal sex is forbidden in Islam.
  • X-Rated Pornography in the Bible section.
  • Incestuous fantasies are allowed and praised in the gospel of porn (bible).
  • The Bible praises incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications.
  • Bride is Wife?  She's a girlfriend or fiancée in the Middle East's context.
  • Isaiah's prophecy about the Jews will worship the pornographic goddess Asherah during the end of times.
  • X-Rated Pornography in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

  • Christian holy women (i.e., pornography).  Countless sacred pictures with holy crosses.
  • Miss California's Nude Pictures: Being "Biblically Correct".
  • Women in the Bible and Islam.
  • His 5.5 inches penis vs. his former wife lover's 7 inches according to him.  (video).
      
    Sam Shamoun's obsession with penis sizes on his wife and himself.(Video)
      

     
    Watch the video here.
      
    Sam Shamoun exposes the
    sex scandals of many inside his inner circle.  It seems that so many inner holy men wanted to get inner with his wife according to him, and so many were cheating on their marriages, from men and women, according to his testimony.  Watch the video here.  Hassamo fartoon whose real name is Hassamo Shamoun (aka Sam Shamoun) is also obsessed with penis sizes, even on his wife and himself.  How many women did Sam Shamoun fornicate with?  We never heard this fraud answer this one.
      
      Jesus permitted for church members to have sex with each other.
     
     Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.
     

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul also commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11–13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':



    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs
    , and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.  Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

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    Is the Bible a womanizer for allowing polygamy in NT and OT? [1]

    Some amazing Bible thumping quacks declare Islam a womanizing religion for allowing polygamy for up to four wives, while polygamy has no limits in the OT and NT:

      

    Jesus allowed polygamy:

    Matthew 19
    9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman
    a similar commits adultery.

    Notice "another woman" got crossed. This is because the word "woman" is not there in the Greek, and the word for "another" also means similar. If we look at the Greek in https://biblehub.com/lexicon/matthew/19-9.htm, we'll find this:

      

    ἄλλην (allēn) 243: other, another

    If you click on 243, you'll see its definition: "another of the same kind; another of similar type."


    (Click on image to enlarge)

    It is quite ludicrous that the one and only verse that prohibits polygamy is not even talking about polygamy.  Jesus warned against marrying already-married women irrespective of whether the man is single or married.  This is further proven in:

      

    Matthew 5:31-32
    31 "It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'
    32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness,
    causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

    A man can marry multiple women, while the woman can only marry one man.  Here Jesus warns that unlawful divorces will cause women, who would still be remaining married while thinking they've been divorced, to commit adultery.  They would still be married to their former husbands.

    Keep in mind also that the men that Jesus was speaking to had many polygamists amongst them.  So if Jesus was to prohibit polygamy, he would've said that if any married man after today marries another woman then he commits adultery.  But no, he didn't even talk about polygamy at all.

      

    Polygamy was Commanded by GOD:

    In the OT, polygamy is not only allowed, but it was also commanded by GOD in some cases [1].

      
      

    Paul and Jesus allowed polygamy:

    Paul also allowed polygamy to the masses, and Jesus in other verses also allowed it to the masses.  This is further discussed at: www.answering-christianity.com/ntpoly.htm.  This article thoroughly proves that polygamy is indeed allowed in the New Testament, and that Christianity is built on false inspirations and "conjecture", exactly as Allah Almighty said in the Glorious Quran [1] about the religion of conjecture [1], Christianity.  Again, it is quite ludicrous that the one and only verse that prohibits polygamy is not even talking about polygamy.  This false religion of conjecture makes sinful things lawful and lawful things sinful [2] [3].  And that in itself is a blasphemy against GOD Almighty.

      

      
    Islam is the Divine Truth:

    Islam is GOD Almighty's Divine Truth.  To be 100% sure about this, visit:

  • The Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles.
  • What is Islam?
  • Marriage in Islam.  Early-Islam's Muta marriage [1] is also covered here.
      
  • From www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm:

    245 Womanizing and womanizers are condemned in the Glorious Quran.  Allah Almighty said:

    "It is not lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things.  (The Noble Quran, 33:52)"

    Throughout the entries above, we've seen how Allah Almighty commanded the Muslim men and women to:

    1-  Be always chaste.
    2-  To lower their gazes.
    3-  To never be sexually enticing or tempting.
    4-  To never even put disbelievers into any trial or temptation.
    5-  To always be upright and a great moral example to all of mankind.
    6-  To always do what is right and condemn what is wrong.

    Islam does not condone womanizers.  Neither the Prophet was a womanizer, nor does Islam condone womanizing.  Islam honors marriage and considers its covenant to be a "Solemn Covenant". (ميثاقا غليظا).  This ميثاقا غليظا  was mentioned three times throughout the Glorious Quran:

    1-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took between Him and His Prophets.

    2-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took with the Jews on the holiness of the Sabbath.

    3-  The ميثاقا غليظا between the husband and the wife in Islam.

    See Noble Verses 4:21, 4:154, 33:7.

    33:52, 4:21, 4:154, 33:7

      

      

     

    Lesbians rebuttal - exposing Sam Shamoun's lies.

    Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha!  The Bible's Prophets, and even Roman Emperors married girls as young as 8!   Also, Mary got pregnant between the ages of 11 and 14.
    Aisha and the Prophet Muhammad.
    Did Prophet Muhammad really take 20% (fifth) of all of the Muslims' booty gains?

    Prophet Muhammad's share, and what he was commanded to spend it on.
    Aaron and his sons took 100% of the money!
    Jewish Rabbis were commanded to marry only virgin girls.
    Why did Allah Almighty prevent the wives of Prophet Muhammad from marrying any man after him?
    Did Prophet Muhammad really marry his daughter in law?
      

    From www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm:

    245 Womanizing and womanizers are condemned in the Glorious Quran.  Allah Almighty said:

    "It is not lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things.  (The Noble Quran, 33:52)"

    Throughout the entries above, we've seen how Allah Almighty commanded the Muslim men and women to:

    1-  Be always chaste.
    2-  To lower their gazes.
    3-  To never be sexually enticing or tempting.
    4-  To never even put disbelievers into any trial or temptation.
    5-  To always be upright and a great moral example to all of mankind.
    6-  To always do what is right and condemn what is wrong.

    Islam does not condone womanizers.  Neither the Prophet was a womanizer, nor does Islam condone womanizing.  Islam honors marriage and considers its covenant to be a "Solemn Covenant". (ميثاقا غليظا).  This ميثاقا غليظا  was mentioned three times throughout the Glorious Quran:

    1-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took between Him and His Prophets.

    2-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took with the Jews on the holiness of the Sabbath.

    3-  The ميثاقا غليظا between the husband and the wife in Islam.

    See Noble Verses 4:21, 4:154, 33:7.

    33:52, 4:21, 4:154, 33:7

      

    Now, I'd like to make a point that first of all how is any of this related to lesbianism in Islam??  Wasn't this ludicrous writer, Sam Shamoun, supposed to prove that Islam condones lesbianism?  How are these irrelevant topics and stories exactly proving lesbianism in Islam?!  Or is he just simply playing "straw man argument" (taking what he thinks is the weaker argument and concentrating on it while ignoring the main one)?

    Aside from my detailed answers below, I'd like the reader to examine my following relevant article:

    Jesus kissed Mary Magdalene!

     

    Now in regards to the marriage of the Prophet to Zaynab, my response will be broken down into the following sections:

    1-  Chastity in Islam.

    2-  Adopted sons are never the same as the biological sons from the loin!   See the moral of the story of Zaynab's marriage to our Prophet in the Noble Quran.

    3-  Lust and covet in the Bible, even against 3-year old virgin slave girls, along with REAL TERRORISM.   Yes three years old!

     

    1-  Chastity in Islam:

    The whole purpose of Allah Almighty's Divine Command in Ordering women to cover up is to eliminate lust, sexual excitements, and covets among men and women in the society:

    "And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards God, that ye may attain Bliss.  (The Noble Quran, 24:31)"

    "O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 33:59)"


    Islam is not a Religion of lust and sex.  Chastity is a big deal in Islam.  It is something that is honorable and favorable in the Sight of Allah Almighty:

    "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),  (The Noble Quran, 24:33)"

    "For Muslim men and women,- for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in Charity, for men and women who fast (and deny themselves), for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in God's praise,- for them has God prepared forgiveness and great reward.  (The Noble Quran, 33:35)"

    "And those who guard their chastity,  (The Noble Quran, 70:29)"

    "This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).  (The Noble Quran, 5:5)"

    And like I mentioned above, even bringing suspicion of being a homosexual, fornicator, adulterer or adulterous against yourself is forbidden in Islam.  This is perfectly summed up in this Noble Verse:

    "Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

     

    2-  Adopted sons are never the same as the biological sons from the loin!

    The moral of the story above is that Allah Almighty wanted to tell us that "adopted sons" are no sons!  Even in Sam Shamoun's bible, they do not inherit.  So them being called "sons" is really pointless.  A biological son or daughter who biologically belongs to both the father and the mother of the family (made from their own sperm and egg) is an actual son or daughter!  Anything else is nothing but man made.  That is why Allah Almighty Said:

    "Behold! Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of God and thy favour: "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear God." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which God was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And God's command must be fulfilled.  (The Noble Quran, 33:37)"

     

    The underlined part in Noble Verse 33:37 is the moral of the story according to Allah Almighty.

     

    "God has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body: nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers: nor has He made your adopted sons your sons. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But God tells (you) the Truth, and He shows the (right) Way.  (The Noble Quran, 33:4)"


    It was part of the Arabs' culture back then to adopt sons and to give them their last names.  Zaid himself was adopted by Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and people used to address as Zaid bin Muhammad.  Allah Almighty saw with His Divine Wisdom that this pagan practice must end.  To eliminate any confusions over the Laws of inheritance and genealogy, Allah Almighty once and for all eliminated the man-made corruption of having the "adopted sons" carry other peoples' family names and genealogies.

    And as we clearly saw in the section above, Allah Almighty Commands Chastity and Honors it.  Covetless societies is what Islam strives on building!  Having men compete over the same woman, or having one man compete with another man over his wife is something that Islam, through practicality and realistic solutions, put an end to.   Chaste-looking women who are covered very conservative cloths do not arouse evil in the society. 

    Like I mentioned above, women by nature can very dangerous, just as men by nature can be extremely brainless and stupid when they're sexually too high.  Allah Almighty prevented the woman from abusing her natural and magical beauty and attraction to men by making it compulsory upon her to cover up, so that she can never become satan's tool to destroy the Chastity of the Muslim society.

    So with all of this in mind, it is quite apparent that the marriage of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, with Zaynab was not something that Allah Almighty wanted to be an excuse for sin and lust.   It was rather a complete elimination of the so-called "adopted sons" absurdity, and a clear cut evidence that an ex-wife of a former "adopted son" is not a former "daughter in law"!

     

    So basically Allah Almighty hit two birds with one stone with this Divine Law.

    All Praise and Glory due to Him.

     

     

    3-  Lust and covet in the Bible, even against 3-year old virgin slave girls, along with REAL TERRORISM:

    Let us now turn the table around and see what Sam Shamoun will say about the following from his bible.  Will he now disown his book?  Using his standards, he has no choice but to leave it.  Otherwise, he's a hypocrite.  For everyone's convenience, I'll post my favorite detailed table for the reader to check out and judge for themselves:

     

    Terrorism in Islam?! (click here)
    Let's look at the real terrorism in the Bibles:

    Pedophilia with
    3-year old slave girls in the Bible!
    Forcing 3-year old slave girls into sex during the Mosaic Law in the Bible! (click here)

    Terror in the Bible by a number of Prophets! (click here)

    Pregnant women will be ripped open! (click here)

    The NT punishes children with death! (click here)

    Terrorism:
    "kill all the boys and non-virgin women"!
    Also under the Mosaic Law! (click here)

    Another killing all men, women, children and animals by Moses! (click here)

    Another taking all women and children as spoils of war by Moses!
    (click here)

    Moses was a murderer before he became a Prophet! (click here)

    Killing all of the "suckling infants" by the thousands by Saul! (click here)

    Dashing little children against rocks in the book of Psalm!
    Praising the dashing of little children against rocks as a form of revenge! (click here)

    42 innocent children were killed using Wild Bears by Prophet Elisha!
    Prophet Muhammad on the other hand loved children even those who threw stones at him in the city of Al-Ta'if. (click here)

    Both equal: "Kill Righteous and the wicked"! (click here)

    Maiming of the enemies' bodies under Moses' and David's Laws:
    Cutting the hands and feet of the enemies in the Bible, and hanging their alive bodies on trees until they DIE.
    (click here)

    David's Selective Murders!
    David so carelessly killed an innocent man for only telling him news.
    (click here)

    X-Rated Pornography in the Bible, by King Solomon!
    Literally, women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", and brothers can "suck" their sisters' and lovers' privates!
    (click here)

    Fathers' fingers into their daughters' vaginas!
    Under the Mosaic Law, fathers were allowed to do "Digital Defloration" to their daughters.
    (click here)

    Shutting the loud mouths of those who unjustly attack Islam, with Truth.

    Aisha in Islam:

    Let's discuss the age of Aisha being 9 when she married our Prophet (CLICK HERE):

    1-  See proofs, in the "Aisha being 9" article, from the Bible about little girls as young as 9 were married off and even sold off by their fathers as slave girls to men who were even older than their fathers.

    2-  See also irrefutable proofs that pedophilia and terrorism exist in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  During the Mosaic times in the Bible's Old Testament, 3-year old slave girls were literally forced into sex under Moses' Orders and Command.  You sometimes have to read things twice to believe them!

    See also: Maiming of the enemies' bodies in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).   Cutting the hands and feet of the enemies in the Bible, and hanging their live bodies on trees until they DIE.

    *** Killing of innocent children in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

    *** X-Rated Pornography in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

    *** Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    3-
      See also proofs how Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced.  The reason no one objected was:

    1. People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia.   They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum.  So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.

    2. Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries.

    Please visit: The age of Aisha, girls similar to her in the Bible, and unbelievable pedophilia against 3-year old slave babies in the pedophilic Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

    Also visit: Why Muta (temporary) Marriage was allowed and why it was discontinued.

     

     

     

     

    He wrote:

    Actually, Muhammad’s so-called privileges, such as having wives of his liking, even led some people to accuse him of being a womanizer:

    ... Layla bt. al-Khatim b. 'Adi b. 'Amr b. Sawad b. Zafar b. al-Harith b. al-Khazraj approached the Prophet while his back was to the sun, and clapped him on his shoulder. He asked who it was, and she replied, "I am the daughter of one who competes with the wind. I am Layla bt. al-Khatim. I have come to offer myself [in marriage] to you, so marry me." He replied, "I accept." She went back to her people and said that the Messenger of God had married her. They said, "What a bad thing you have done! You are a self-respecting woman, but the Prophet is a womanizer. Seek an annulment from him." She went back to the Prophet and asked him to revoke the marriage and he complied with [her request]. (The History of Al-Tabari: The Last Years of the Prophet, translated and annotated by Ismail K. Poonawala [State University of New York Press, Albany, 1990], Volume IX, p. 139; bold emphasis ours)

     

     

    My response:

    Absolute nonsense!  Ever since when the disbelievers' opinion on our beloved Prophet was a just and objective one?  Of course they're going to say negative things about Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.

    Notice how the quote itself refutes Sam Shamoun's dumb point.  Have the Prophet been a true womanizer, meaning he is obsessed with women, he would not have annulled the marriage with Layla without even touching her, would he?

     

    Hilarious indeed!

     

    Any pornographic and drunkard bible follower, the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", would've enjoyed her for at least one night and then divorced her, that if he would even divorce her!  But no, our Beloved and Blessed Prophet let her go on her own without violating her will and desires.

     

    Thank you Mr. Shamoun for helping me prove the Beauty of our beloved Prophet Muhammad!

      

    Again, Prophet Muhammad's wives were mostly divorced and widow women.  His marriages were for mainly political reasons.  If he married a woman from a tribe, then he'd save the Muslims bloodshed and battles with that tribe, and ultimately, that tribe would embrace Islam through this marriage.

      

    Islam does not condone womanizers.  Neither the Prophet was a womanizer, nor does Islam condone womanizing.  Islam honors marriage and considers its covenant to be a Solemn Covenant! (ميثاقا غليظا).  For more, visit the following sections:

    Women in Islam and the Bible - a detailed comparison.
    Prophet Muhammad's section.
    Adulterated Material, pornography and profanity in the Bible and lies against Islam.
    Pedophilia and terrorism in the Bible.
    Womanizing and womanizers are condemned in the Glorious Quran.
    Muhammad the Womanizer?

     

      

    Is the Bible a womanizer for allowing polygamy in NT and OT? [1]

    Some amazing Bible thumping quacks declare Islam a womanizing religion for allowing polygamy for up to four wives, while polygamy has no limits in the OT and NT:

      

    Jesus allowed polygamy:

    Matthew 19
    9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman
    a similar commits adultery.

    Notice "another woman" got crossed. This is because the word "woman" is not there in the Greek, and the word for "another" also means similar. If we look at the Greek in https://biblehub.com/lexicon/matthew/19-9.htm, we'll find this:

      

    ἄλλην (allēn) 243: other, another

    If you click on 243, you'll see its definition: "another of the same kind; another of similar type."


    (Click on image to enlarge)

    It is quite ludicrous that the one and only verse that prohibits polygamy is not even talking about polygamy.  Jesus warned against marrying already-married women irrespective of whether the man is single or married.  This is further proven in:

      

    Matthew 5:31-32
    31 "It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'
    32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness,
    causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

    A man can marry multiple women, while the woman can only marry one man.  Here Jesus warns that unlawful divorces will cause women, who would still be remaining married while thinking they've been divorced, to commit adultery.  They would still be married to their former husbands.

    Keep in mind also that the men that Jesus was speaking to had many polygamists amongst them.  So if Jesus was to prohibit polygamy, he would've said that if any married man after today marries another woman then he commits adultery.  But no, he didn't even talk about polygamy at all.

      

    Polygamy was Commanded by GOD:

    In the OT, polygamy is not only allowed, but it was also commanded by GOD in some cases [1].

      
      

    Paul and Jesus allowed polygamy:

    Paul also allowed polygamy to the masses, and Jesus in other verses also allowed it to the masses.  This is further discussed at: www.answering-christianity.com/ntpoly.htm.  This article thoroughly proves that polygamy is indeed allowed in the New Testament, and that Christianity is built on false inspirations and "conjecture", exactly as Allah Almighty said in the Glorious Quran [1] about the religion of conjecture [1], Christianity.  Again, it is quite ludicrous that the one and only verse that prohibits polygamy is not even talking about polygamy.  This false religion of conjecture makes sinful things lawful and lawful things sinful [2] [3].  And that in itself is a blasphemy against GOD Almighty.

      

      
    Islam is the Divine Truth:

    Islam is GOD Almighty's Divine Truth.  To be 100% sure about this, visit:

  • The Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles.
  • What is Islam?
  • Marriage in Islam.  Early-Islam's Muta marriage [1] is also covered here.
      
  • From www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm:

    245 Womanizing and womanizers are condemned in the Glorious Quran.  Allah Almighty said:

    "It is not lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things.  (The Noble Quran, 33:52)"

    Throughout the entries above, we've seen how Allah Almighty commanded the Muslim men and women to:

    1-  Be always chaste.
    2-  To lower their gazes.
    3-  To never be sexually enticing or tempting.
    4-  To never even put disbelievers into any trial or temptation.
    5-  To always be upright and a great moral example to all of mankind.
    6-  To always do what is right and condemn what is wrong.

    Islam does not condone womanizers.  Neither the Prophet was a womanizer, nor does Islam condone womanizing.  Islam honors marriage and considers its covenant to be a "Solemn Covenant". (ميثاقا غليظا).  This ميثاقا غليظا  was mentioned three times throughout the Glorious Quran:

    1-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took between Him and His Prophets.

    2-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took with the Jews on the holiness of the Sabbath.

    3-  The ميثاقا غليظا between the husband and the wife in Islam.

    See Noble Verses 4:21, 4:154, 33:7.

    33:52, 4:21, 4:154, 33:7

      

      
      

    Bibles' Glorified incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications:

      
    Song of Songs 8:1-3
      
    1. Oh, I wish you were my brother, who nursed at my mother’s breasts. Then I could kiss you no matter who was watching, and no one would criticize me.
    2 I would bring you to my childhood home, and there you would teach me. I would give you spiced wine to drink, my sweet pomegranate wine.
    3 Your left arm would be under my head, and your right arm would embrace me.

  • "my sweet pomegranate wine"  Her wine is her vagina's wet and cum (audio clip).  He also did say that her vagina and breasts taste like "wine" (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9).
  • Song of Solomon 3:4
    Then scarcely had I left them when I found my love! I caught and held him tightly, then I brought him to
    my mother’s house, into my mother’s bed, where I had been conceived.

    Song of Solomon 7:10-12
    10 I am my lover’s, and he claims me as his own.
    11 Come, my love, let us go out to the fields and spend the night among the wildflowers.
    12 Let us get up early and go to the vineyards to see if the grapevines have budded, if the blossoms have opened, and if the pomegranates have bloomed. There I will give you my love
    (fornicate).

      

    Little sister & mom's bed:

    Song of Songs 8:8-9
    8
    We have a little sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for our sister on the day she is spoken for?

    Song of Songs 8:8
    8
    Our sister is little, and hath no breasts. What shall we do to our sister in the day when she is to be spoken to?


    What shall you (plural) do with your little sister and her little breasts?  Let me guess:
      

    Deflower her in your mentioned mother's bed?

      

    Also, is the holy book of  toilet   ספר קודש של שירותים    كتاب المرحاض المقدس  further suggesting group incestuous rape of the little sister by her praised horny siblings?
      
      




    Woke is evil Israel's invention; from the same satanic cesspool:


         


    Woke is one of Israel's lies.
      9/11 is 100% an Israeli lie
    .

      

    X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.
      

    Watch the video here.  Sam Shamoun exposes the sex scandals of many inside his inner circle.

      

      
    Their sister's vagina tastes like "wine"
    : [1] AUDIO clip
    (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9).  The Bible praises, and even promotes, incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9].  Notice "no one would criticize me" (Song of Songs 8:1), above.  A husband and wife, or even a brother and sister, would not be criticized if people saw them walking to their home.  Clearly, this is not a husband and wife relationship.  And this is the pile of dung that Jews and Christians uphold as the Holy Word of GOD Almighty??

      

    Praised Incest:
      
    The Bibles praise fornications in
    incest-like descriptions.  The brothers, little sister and mother sexing, and the vaginas taste like "wine", and a praise for group incest rape in the gospel of LGBTQ, Woke and porn:
      

      
    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':



    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs
    , and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.  Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

      

    Also Visit:

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.

    Would GOD Almighty validate falsehood?  Yes.  In 2 Samuel 12:7-12, GOD validated and commanded open pornography between David's wives and all men in town in broad day light.  See many other examples of GOD Almighty validating and commanding lies in the Bibles to purposefully lead astray the false ones, who were supposed to be otherwise Believers, into Hell Fire.  Also visit the link given in this video for more.

    Was Adam 90 feet tall?  Science supports Islam's claims.

    Mankind multiplied via cloning from Adam, not incest [1]:  Evidence that Allah Almighty created the People of Adam through Cloning.  (html backup).  Another STUNNING Scientific Claim from Islam.

    Earth Cloning:  Evidence from the Quran that Allah Almighty Created the 7 Heavens and all of their Earths from Cloning.

    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:

    www.google.com/search?q=What+are+all+the+pronouns+used+by+Lgbtq
    www.google.com/search?q=all+lgbtq+pronouns
    www.google.com/search?q=the+transgender+pronouns
    www.google.com/search?q=lgbt+hundreds+of+pronouns+animal+human
    www.google.com/search?q=non+binary+pronouns

    The links above are for LGBTQ pronouns.

      

    Human cloning and gender alteration were prophesied in Islam.

      

    Alteration of Creation Prophecy in Quran:

    The somatic cells from the ears are the most preferred ones to make cloning:  "...but somatic cells from ear clippings will be much easier to obtain and are therefore preferable."  (Source, 2, pdf (page 13 in PDF, page 4 in article)).  Notice the two phases of satan's future temptation to mankind.  Notice ولامرنهم (and I will command them) is mentioned twice for two different phases:

    Noble Verse(s) 4:119
    Arabic (Read from right to left.  Also, all png image files: [1] [2].  Quran Moral Code (100s of them)]):

    4:119 ولاضلنهم ولامنينهم ولامرنهم فليبتكن اذان الانعام ولامرنهم فليغيرن خلق الله ومن يتخذ الشيطان وليا من دون الله فقد خسر خسرانا مبينا

    Rodwell:

    [004:119]  and will lead them astray, and will stir desires within them, and will command them and they shall cut the ears of animals (phase 1: Dolly the sheep and cloning research); and I will further command them, and they shall alter the creation of God (phase 2: Cloning industry, LGBTQ, transgenders, Woke, gender alteration, they-them, he-she, she-he, Ze/Zir, Xe/Xem, Sie/Hir, They/Them, (any animal)/human, (any it)/human, etc...)." He who taketh Satan rather than God for his patron, is ruined with palpable ruin:

     

      

    Cloning began with the cutting of animals' ears:

    Satan's big battle with GOD Almighty is to cause so much evil, among them is to "cut the cattle's ears and to then further command them to alter the creation of Allah" (4:119), i.e., cloning (as this is how it began today) [1]

    Transgenders also began after Dolly the sheep's cloning.  LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) are covered below in this article.  Today they're even researching making males get pregnant, or at least plant fertilized female eggs inside them and grow the fetuses into babies.

    The alteration of Allah Almighty's creations indeed began with the cutting of the animals' ears and extracting the necessary somatic cells from them.  Dolly the sheep was the first creation to ever be cloned:

    "Dolly was a female domestic sheep, and the first mammal cloned from an adult somatic cell, using the process of nuclear transfer." (Source)

    "...but somatic cells from ear clippings will be much easier to obtain and are therefore preferable."  (Source, 2, pdf (page 13 in PDF, page 4 in article))

    Ample more quotes are below in this articleIn the pdf file, we read:

        

      

    Evidence that Allah Almighty created the People of Adam through Cloning in the Glorious Quran.  (html backup).  Cloning is mentioned in multiple places in the Glorious Quran [1], and is one of the End of Times Prophecies as well.  Cloning is definitely NOT a foreign concept in the Glorious Quran.

    Please visit:

  • The Overwhelming Numerical and Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran.
  • The Quran's and Islam's Amazing Prophecies.
      
    Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]
      

    Sheikh Hamza Yusuf (Muslim convert Mark Hanson) [1] [2] on some of Islam's most STUNNING End of Times Prophecies [1] [2] including ISIS:

         

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy.
  •   

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':



    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs
    , and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

      

       

    Allah Almighty quoted satan telling Him, the Almighty, in the Glorious Quran the following:

    4:119 ولاضلنهم ولامنينهم ولامرنهم فليبتكن اذان الانعام ولامرنهم فليغيرن خلق الله ومن يتخذ الشيطان وليا من دون الله فقد خسر خسرانا مبينا

    [004:119]  and (1) will lead them astray ولاضلنهمand (2) will stir desires within them ولامنينهمand (3) will command them ولامرنهم and (4) they shall cut the ears of animals فليبتكن اذان الانعامand (5) I will command them ولامرنهم to alter the creation of God فليغيرن خلق الله ." He who taketh Satan rather than God for his patron, is ruined with palpable ruin:

    Satan will:

    1-  Lead astray.
    2-  Stir desires.
    3-  Will command the evil ones.
    4-  They will cut the animals' ears.
    5-  Then proceed to alter the creation of GOD Almighty.

      
    Notice the fifth "and":

    (5) and I will command them ولامرنهم  to alter the creation of God فليغيرن خلق الله ."

      

    Human cloning and gender alteration were prophesied in Islam.

    Evidence from the Quran that Allah Almighty Created the 7 Heavens and all of their Earths from Cloning.

      

         
      

    Masturbating on his sister:

    Now let me ask the horny creep in Song of Songs 8:8-9How many times have you already masturbated on your sister in your thoughts?  And did you also fantasize about your mother and her bed? 

    Again, this is the pile of dung that Jews and Christians uphold as the Holy Word of GOD Almighty??

      

  • Matthew 7:22-23GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.
  •   

    Fabricating books:

    Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran:

    "Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.  (The Noble Quran, 2:79)"

    www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

      

    Bride is not wife:

    In the Middle East, there is no "boyfriend" and "girlfriend".  If two are spoken of, or if two fall in love and want to get married, then the guy would call her his bride.  This is close enough to a fiancée.  So in this gospel of porn, when he calls her his "bride", he's not calling her his wife as the barking sodomized-by-their-priests proclaim.  It's a relationship between a boyfriend and a girlfriend.  "Bride" is a Semitic language metaphor.  In this gospel of porn, it is referring to his girlfriend.  In the chaste world of Islam, a wife is one who had sexual intercourse with her husband.  She now changed from being a bride to a wife.  A bride has not yet had sex with her groom.  They have not yet married.

    Song of Songs 4:8-12
    8 Come with me from Lebanon, my bride, come with me from Lebanon. Descend from the crest of Amana, from the top of Senir, the summit of Hermon, from the lions' dens and the mountain haunts of the leopards.
    9 You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace.
    10 How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!
    11 Your lips drop sweetness as the honeycomb, my bride; milk and honey are under your tongue. The fragrance of your garments is like that of Lebanon.
    12 You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain.

    Visit the following X-Rated pornography in the Bible article to see ample verses that thoroughly demonstrate that they were incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornicators:

  • Jesus problematic hyperboles.  Sinful became lawful, and lawful became sinful.
  • Jesus coveted the sins of the world for 40 days and nights.
  • Anal sex is forbidden in Islam.
  • X-Rated Pornography in the Bible section.
  • Incestuous fantasies are allowed and praised in the gospel of porn (bible).
  • The Bible praises incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications.
  • Bride is Wife?  She's a girlfriend or fiancée in the Middle East's context.
  • Isaiah's prophecy about the Jews will worship the pornographic goddess Asherah during the end of times.
  • X-Rated Pornography in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

  • Christian holy women (i.e., pornography).  Countless sacred pictures with holy crosses.
  • Miss California's Nude Pictures: Being "Biblically Correct".
  • Women in the Bible and Islam.
  • His 5.5 inches penis vs. his former wife lover's 7 inches according to him.  (video).
      
    Sam Shamoun's obsession with penis sizes on his wife and himself.(Video)
      

     
    Watch the video here.
      
    Sam Shamoun exposes the
    sex scandals of many inside his inner circle.  It seems that so many inner holy men wanted to get inner with his wife according to him, and so many were cheating on their marriages, from men and women, according to his testimony.  Watch the video here.  Hassamo fartoon whose real name is Hassamo Shamoun (aka Sam Shamoun) is also obsessed with penis sizes, even on his wife and himself.  How many women did Sam Shamoun fornicate with?  We never heard this fraud answer this one.
      
      Jesus permitted for church members to have sex with each other.
     
     Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny.
     

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul also commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11–13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':



    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs
    , and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.  Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

  •   

      

      

    Is the Bible a womanizer for allowing polygamy in NT and OT? [1]

    Some amazing Bible thumping quacks declare Islam a womanizing religion for allowing polygamy for up to four wives, while polygamy has no limits in the OT and NT:

      

    Jesus allowed polygamy:

    Matthew 19
    9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman
    a similar commits adultery.

    Notice "another woman" got crossed. This is because the word "woman" is not there in the Greek, and the word for "another" also means similar. If we look at the Greek in https://biblehub.com/lexicon/matthew/19-9.htm, we'll find this:

      

    ἄλλην (allēn) 243: other, another

    If you click on 243, you'll see its definition: "another of the same kind; another of similar type."


    (Click on image to enlarge)

    It is quite ludicrous that the one and only verse that prohibits polygamy is not even talking about polygamy.  Jesus warned against marrying already-married women irrespective of whether the man is single or married.  This is further proven in:

      

    Matthew 5:31-32
    31 "It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'
    32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness,
    causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

    A man can marry multiple women, while the woman can only marry one man.  Here Jesus warns that unlawful divorces will cause women, who would still be remaining married while thinking they've been divorced, to commit adultery.  They would still be married to their former husbands.

    Keep in mind also that the men that Jesus was speaking to had many polygamists amongst them.  So if Jesus was to prohibit polygamy, he would've said that if any married man after today marries another woman then he commits adultery.  But no, he didn't even talk about polygamy at all.

      

    Polygamy was Commanded by GOD:

    In the OT, polygamy is not only allowed, but it was also commanded by GOD in some cases [1].

      
      

    Paul and Jesus allowed polygamy:

    Paul also allowed polygamy to the masses, and Jesus in other verses also allowed it to the masses.  This is further discussed at: www.answering-christianity.com/ntpoly.htm.  This article thoroughly proves that polygamy is indeed allowed in the New Testament, and that Christianity is built on false inspirations and "conjecture", exactly as Allah Almighty said in the Glorious Quran [1] about the religion of conjecture [1], Christianity.  Again, it is quite ludicrous that the one and only verse that prohibits polygamy is not even talking about polygamy.  This false religion of conjecture makes sinful things lawful and lawful things sinful [2] [3].  And that in itself is a blasphemy against GOD Almighty.

      

      
    Islam is the Divine Truth:

    Islam is GOD Almighty's Divine Truth.  To be 100% sure about this, visit:

  • The Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles.
  • What is Islam?
  • Marriage in Islam.  Early-Islam's Muta marriage [1] is also covered here.
      
  • From www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm:

    245 Womanizing and womanizers are condemned in the Glorious Quran.  Allah Almighty said:

    "It is not lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things.  (The Noble Quran, 33:52)"

    Throughout the entries above, we've seen how Allah Almighty commanded the Muslim men and women to:

    1-  Be always chaste.
    2-  To lower their gazes.
    3-  To never be sexually enticing or tempting.
    4-  To never even put disbelievers into any trial or temptation.
    5-  To always be upright and a great moral example to all of mankind.
    6-  To always do what is right and condemn what is wrong.

    Islam does not condone womanizers.  Neither the Prophet was a womanizer, nor does Islam condone womanizing.  Islam honors marriage and considers its covenant to be a "Solemn Covenant". (ميثاقا غليظا).  This ميثاقا غليظا  was mentioned three times throughout the Glorious Quran:

    1-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took between Him and His Prophets.

    2-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took with the Jews on the holiness of the Sabbath.

    3-  The ميثاقا غليظا between the husband and the wife in Islam.

    See Noble Verses 4:21, 4:154, 33:7.

    33:52, 4:21, 4:154, 33:7

      

      

     

    Lesbians rebuttal - exposing Sam Shamoun's lies.

    Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha!  The Bible's Prophets, and even Roman Emperors married girls as young as 8!   Also, Mary got pregnant between the ages of 11 and 14.
    Aisha and the Prophet Muhammad.
    Did Prophet Muhammad really take 20% (fifth) of all of the Muslims' booty gains?

    Prophet Muhammad's share, and what he was commanded to spend it on.
    Aaron and his sons took 100% of the money!
    Jewish Rabbis were commanded to marry only virgin girls.
    Why did Allah Almighty prevent the wives of Prophet Muhammad from marrying any man after him?
    Did Prophet Muhammad really marry his daughter in law?
      

    From www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm:

    245 Womanizing and womanizers are condemned in the Glorious Quran.  Allah Almighty said:

    "It is not lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things.  (The Noble Quran, 33:52)"

    Throughout the entries above, we've seen how Allah Almighty commanded the Muslim men and women to:

    1-  Be always chaste.
    2-  To lower their gazes.
    3-  To never be sexually enticing or tempting.
    4-  To never even put disbelievers into any trial or temptation.
    5-  To always be upright and a great moral example to all of mankind.
    6-  To always do what is right and condemn what is wrong.

    Islam does not condone womanizers.  Neither the Prophet was a womanizer, nor does Islam condone womanizing.  Islam honors marriage and considers its covenant to be a "Solemn Covenant". (ميثاقا غليظا).  This ميثاقا غليظا  was mentioned three times throughout the Glorious Quran:

    1-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took between Him and His Prophets.

    2-  The ميثاقا غليظا that Allah Almighty took with the Jews on the holiness of the Sabbath.

    3-  The ميثاقا غليظا between the husband and the wife in Islam.

    See Noble Verses 4:21, 4:154, 33:7.

    33:52, 4:21, 4:154, 33:7

      

    Any pornographic and drunkard bible follower, the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", would've enjoyed her for at least one night and then divorced her, that if he would even divorce her!  But no, our Beloved and Blessed Prophet let her go on her own without violating her will and desires.

     

    Thank you Mr. Shamoun for helping me prove the Beauty of our beloved Prophet Muhammad!

     

     

     

    He wrote:

    The Quran also gives Muslim men the right to have as many slave girls as they choose:

    If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. S. 4:3 Y. Ali

    And who guard their private parts, Except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable, S. 23:5-6 Shakir

    O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war, and the daughters of thine uncle on the father's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the father's side, and the daughters of thine uncle on the mother's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the mother's side who emigrated with thee, and a believing woman if she give herself unto the Prophet and the Prophet desire to ask her in marriage - a privilege for thee only, not for the (rest of) believers - We are Aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess - that thou mayst be free from blame, for Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful... It is not allowed thee to take (other) women henceforth, nor that thou shouldst change them for other wives even though their beauty pleased thee, save those whom thy right hand possesseth. And Allah is ever Watcher over all things. S. 33:50, 52

    And those who guard their private parts, Except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess -- for these surely are not to be blamed, S. 70:29-30 Shakir

    In light of such privileges, what need is there for Muslim men to commit adultery seeing that they can have sex galore with as many captive and slave women as they like?!

     

     

    My response:

    When it comes to slavery, Islam actually came to gradually end the Judeo-Christian and Pagan slavery.  Before I clearly demonstrate this from the Noble Quran, I'd like first to expose Sam Shamoun's hypocrisy and stupidity by giving him the following form his gospel of porn bible, the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine".

     

    The following response will be broken down in two sections:

    1-   Slavery and rapes in the bible.

    2-   Islam came to END slavery as clearly demonstrated in the Noble Quran.

     

     

    1-  Slavery and rapes in the Bibles:


    Keeping and inheriting slaves and their children for life:

    Leviticus 25:44-46 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."

     

    Slaves are property:

    "If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.  (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 21:20-21)"  

    In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.

    In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

    In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.

     

    A father can sell his daughter as slave girl to other men:

    Exodus 21:7-8
    7 When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.
    8 If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.


    Raping of 3-year old slave girls:

    Numbers 31:17-18
    "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

    Aside from the killing of innocent children, which happened before also in the bible as shown in the next set of verses, but the historical elaborations from the Jews' Talmud regarding the events that took place in verses Numbers 31:17-18 say that Moses and his men forced into sex 3-year old slave girls:

     

    "....The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers in §157 comments on the above quoted commandment of MOSES to kill the Midianite women as well as the male children...."

    "....According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, MOSES therefore had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day, because they were "suitable for having sexual relations." [138]...."

    "Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse....."

    "A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. "A girl three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse," the words of R. Meir. And sages say, "Three years and one day old."....."

    (https://www.answering-christianity.com/age3.htm)

    Bibliography:

    [131] Ibid., vol.XXI.A-D, Tractate Bava Mesia, Atlanta: Scholars Press 1990, p.ix-x.

    [132] Ibid., vol.XXIII.B, Tractate Sanhedrin 1984, 150. See also vol.XIX.A, Tractate Qiddushin 10a-b, 1992, 33. "Menstruating" here of course refers to the ritual "flux uncleanness" described in Lev.15.

    [133] Ibid., vol.XXV.A, Tractate Abodah Zarah, 1991, 168. Emphasis original.

    [134] J. Neusner, The Talmud of Babylonia. A complete outline, Part IV. The Division of Holy Things. B. Number 37. 1995, 704.

    [135] Neusner 1993, 41.

    [136] Neusner 1995, 7.

    [137] Kuhn 1959, §157, 652f. My translation. In general, proselytes are not allowed to marry into the priesthood.

    [138] Ibid., §157, footnote 86, 653.

    (https://www.answering-christianity.com/age3.htm)

     

     

     

    2-  Islam came to END slavery as clearly demonstrated in the Noble Quran:

     


    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/incomplete_rebuttal.htm#slavery:

     

    The example of ending slavery in Islam:

    Perhaps the best example I can provide regarding Laws developing gradually in the Noble Quran is the ending of the Judeo-Christians' and Pagans' slavery in Arabia.  Let us look at the following Noble Verses:

     

    Slavery seems to be allowed:

    Note:  "Right hand possession" are the human-captives of war who lived as slaves among Muslims.

    "Serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For God loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-  (The Noble Quran, 4:36)"

    "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.  (The Noble Quran, 4:3)"

    "Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath God ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and God is All-knowing, All-wise.  (The Noble Quran, 4:24)"

    "If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess: And God hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable: They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours: when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 4:25)"

     

    Freeing of slaves is Commanded by Allah Almighty:

    "It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness to believe in God and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the God-fearing.  (The Noble Quran, 2:177)"

    "Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (Is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have treaty of Mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed. For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to God: for God hath all knowledge and all wisdom.  (The Noble Quran, 4:92)"

    "God will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth God make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful.  (The Noble Quran, 5:89)"

    "But those who divorce their wives by Zihar, then wish to go back on the words they uttered, (It is ordained that such a one) should free a slave before they touch each other: Thus are ye admonished to perform: and God is well-acquainted with (all) that ye do.  (The Noble Quran, 58:3)"

    Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari:  "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom).(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

    Narrated Asma: "No doubt the Prophet ordered people to manumit slaves during the solar eclipse.    (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Eclipses, Volume 2, Book 18, Number 163)"

    "'Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that 'Umar b. Khattab asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as he was at ji'rana (a town near Mecca) on his way back from Ta'if: Messenger of Allah, I had taken a vow during the days of Ignorance that I would observe I'tikaf for one day in the Sacred Mosque. So what is your opinion? He said: Go and observe I'tikaf for a day. And Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) gave him a slave girl out of the one-fifth (of the spoils of war meant for the Holy Prophet). And when Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) set the war prisoners free. 'Umar b. Khattab heard their voice as they were saying: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has set us free. He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: What is this? They said: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has set free the prisoners of war (which had fallen to the lot of people). Thereupon he (Hadrat 'Umar) said: Abdullah, go to that slave-girl and set her free.  (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4074)"

     

    If a slave requests his freedom from the Muslim master, he can get it:

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/equality.htm:

    First, it is important to know that thousands of years ago life was different than today.  Today, people wouldn't accept slavery for any reason.  The reason for this is because people are a lot more independent both financially, education wise, mentally, etc...  But people back then were different.  When a tribe or a group of people lose a major battle and their money is mostly, if not all, is taken as war booty by the other side, then people could and would accept being slaves for the following reasons:

    1-  Both financial and social security. When their country or tribe lost the war, they also lost most or all of their money as war booty.  Being out of money and food, it becomes necessary for an individual to find the means for basic survival in life.  Living as a slave would provide this.

    2-  Protection from hostile individuals. Even under the Islamic rule, you can still find hostile individuals who violate the Law and take matters into their own hands.  An enemy family can be sometime in danger if they don't have a "protector".

    3-  Widows, Orphans, and the extremely poor of the enemy side need the financial and social protection from a Master.  Back then, there were no governments with good social system that protects everyone.  Slavery back then was that social system in special cases.

    There are probably more points I can add, but I think these are sufficient enough. Let us now see the Islamic System toward Slaves:

    Yes slaves were taken from the blood-thirsty and hostile enemies, but they were also given the right to get their freedom when ever they want.  The Noble Quran not only allows slaves to request their freedom from their Muslim masters, but also orders the Muslim masters to pay the slaves money to help them stand on their feet and to be able to face life with a good jump start.

    Let us look at Noble Verse 24:33 "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),"    In this Noble Verse, we see that if a slave requests his freedom from his Muslim master, then his master not only must help him earn his freedom if there is good in the Slave, but also pay him money so the slave can have a good start in his free life.

    "The law of slavery in the legal sense of the term is now obsolete.  While it had any meaning, Islam made the slave's lot as easy as possible.    A slave, male or female, could ask for conditional manumission by a written deed fixing the amount required for manumission and allowing the slave meanwhile to earn money by lawful means and perhaps marry and bring up a family.  Such a deed was not to be refused if the request was genuine and the slave had character.  Not only that, but the master is directed to help with money out of his own resources in order to enable the slave to earn his or her own liberty." [3]

    Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said:

    Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari:  "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom).(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

     

    The Bottom line is:

    The bottom line is that in order for the Muslims to remain as a purified and GOD Almighty-fearing and obeying society, one of the requirements that they had to accomplish was to gradually and completely eliminate slavery - the same slavery that was at its peak during the Jews', Christians' and Pagans' times.

    For more details, please visit:  Human equality and freedom in Islam VS the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

     

     

     

    He wrote:

    There even are commentators, while commenting on specific Quranic passages, who say that incestuous relations are permitted in certain instances. The Quran says in surah 25:54:

    And He it is Who hath created man from water, and hath appointed for him kindred by blood and kindred by marriage; for thy Lord is ever Powerful. Pickthall

    Al-Qurtubi wrote regarding this passage:

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    Explanation of Surah 25:54 by Imam Qurtubi:

    "It is He Who has created man from water: Then has He established relationships of lineage and marriage: for thy Lord has power (over all things)." (Surah 25:54)

    Regarding the terms "lineage and relationship through marriage": pulsar.gif (2171 bytes) (Shamoun the liar and his friend fabricated this quote.....See below!)

    Lineage and relationship through marriage are two terms that describe the personal relationships that may exist between humans. Ibn Al-Arabi said, "Lineage is an expression referring to the mixture of fluids between a male and a female from a religious legal point of view. However, if this union (between male and female) occurs through disobedience (fornication) then the resulting child is not considered a part of a person’s true lineage. That is why a daughter born from adultery is not mentioned in Allah’s saying, ‘Prohibited to you (for marriage) are: your mothers and daughters’ (Surah 4:23) because she is not considered a daughter according to the most authentic teaching of our (Islamic) scholars and the most authentic teaching of our religion. If there is no legal lineage then there is no legal relationship; for adultery does not prohibit (from marriage) the daughter of the mother (you committed adultery with) nor the mother of a woman (you committed adultery with). What is lawfully prohibited is not also prohibited due to sin, for Allah has bestowed lineage and relation through marriage upon His servants and greatly esteemed these relationships. Allah has also established laws identifying what is legal and what is prohibited, which are not equal to each other; therefore falsehood cannot be a part of these laws."

    I (Qurtubi) said: The scholars have differed on the permissibility of a man marrying his daughter who was the result of an adulterous relationship; or for that matter marrying his sister or granddaughter who was the result of adultery. Some prohibited this type of relationship; among them was Ibn Al Qasim, which is also the saying of Abu Hanifa and his companions. Others however, allowed this type of marriage such as Abdul Malik Al Maj’shun, which is also the saying of Al Shafi’i. This was detailed in the explanation of Surah 4 (Al Nisa’).

    (Taken from Al-Azhar’s website: source; translated by our dear brother Dimitrius.)

    Thus, certain Muslim scholars and Islamic schools of jurisprudence allow for a man to marry his very own daughter, as long as she was born from an adulterous relationship!

     

     

    My response:

     

    First, marrying your children in the Bible!

    The Bible in Leviticus 20:21 allows for parents to marry their children!

     

    Second,

    Shamoun the liar fabricated the quote "lineage and relationship through marriage" above!  Read the quotes that he quoted again from the Noble Quran!

    Also, his translation of the Arabic is wrong, because the Arabic interpretation doesn't say marriage either:

    نَسَبًا وَصِهْرًا
     

    النَّسَب وَالصِّهْر مَعْنَيَانِ يَعُمَّانِ كُلّ قُرْبَى تَكُون بَيْن آدَمِيَّيْنِ . قَالَ اِبْن الْعَرَبِيّ : النَّسَب عِبَارَة عَنْ خَلْط الْمَاء بَيْن الذَّكَر وَالْأُنْثَى عَلَى وَجْه الشَّرْع

    The liar and his friend are busted in this one!

    Shamoun is Middle Eastern and knows Arabic.



     

    My Detailed Refutation to the Clowns ("scholars") above!

    The following is a detailed and thorough refutation from the Noble Quran to the clowns and weasels who considered themselves as "scholars" that Sam Shamoun used.

    Note:  Pay close attention to the "Ultimate Refutation" sub-sections below!

     

    The sections of this response will be as follow:

    1-   The status of bastard children in Islam.

    The sub-sections of this section are:

    1. The ultimate refutation to the absurd "scholars" above! pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)

    2. Another ultimate refutation to the absurd "scholars" above! pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)

    3. Abraham's intercession to his disbelieving parents that will be rejected!  They were disbelievers, but they were still considered as his parents by Allah Almighty!!

    2-   The status of bastards and women in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

    3-  Only in the Bible are parents allowed to marry their children in some cases!

     

     

    1-  The status of bastard children in Islam:

    I'd like to soundly refute the absurdity of those who misinterpreted and harmed the Truth of the Noble Quran when they said that a father can marry his bastard daughter, by presenting the facts straight from the Noble Quran Itself.

    First allow me to answer this question by reversing the scenario a little bit.   Let's say there is single woman who committed fornication with a stranger and she got pregnant from him and bore a male child. 

    Question:  Can this bastard child marry his mother when he grows up?

    Here we have this woman who had to go through a great deal of agony in the 9 months of pregnancy, and a greater deal of pain, almost to a death point, when she gave birth to him. 

     

    Yet, we can't call her his mother?!

    Says who?!

    Allah Almighty never Said that!

     

    Islam is very clear about biological children.  The following Noble Verses clearly prove this:

    "God has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body: nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers: nor has He made your adopted sons your sons. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But God tells (you) the Truth, and He shows the (right) Way.  (The Noble Quran, 33:4)

    You mothers can never become your wives!!! pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)


    "Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful;-  (The Noble Quran, 4:23)"

    "It is He Who brought you forth from the wombs of your mothers when ye knew nothing; and He gave you hearing and sight and intelligence and affections: that ye may give thanks (to God).  (The Noble Quran, 16:78)"

    "O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of God is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And God has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).  (The Noble Quran, 49:13)"

    Allah Almighty in this Noble Verse is not speaking just to Muslims.  He is addressing all of humanity, and He is Telling them that everyone of us was created from a male and female, i.e., a male's sperm and a female's egg!

    "God (thus) directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the (only) heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased Left brothers (or sisters) the mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases Is) after the payment of legacies and debts. Ye know not whether your parents or your children are nearest to you in benefit. These are settled portions ordained by God; and God is All-knowing, Al- wise.  (The Noble Quran, 4:11)"

    "They ask thee for a legal decision. Say: God directs (thus) about those who leave no descendants or ascendants as heirs. If it is a man that dies, leaving a sister but no child, she shall have half the inheritance: If (such a deceased was) a woman, who left no child, Her brother takes her inheritance: If there are two sisters, they shall have two-thirds of the inheritance (between them): if there are brothers and sisters, (they share), the male having twice the share of the female. Thus doth God make clear to you (His law), lest ye err. And God hath knowledge of all things.  (The Noble Quran, 4:176)"

    Now in the case of my question above, suppose this bastard son becomes very rich and dies before his mother dies.  Why can't we apply the Law of Inheritance to her?   Isn't she his biological mother?

     

    Also notice in Noble Verse 4:176, Allah Almighty never mentioned, in the underlined parts, that if the woman had a husband and/or he was dead!

     

    No mention of any husband here!  So in the case of the bastard child and his mother, if she was rich and she dies, then Noble Verse 4:176 CLEARLY!!!!! says that he would inherit her wealth.

     

    I-  The Ultimate Refutation to the absurd "scholars" above!!!

    "God has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body: nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers: nor has He made your adopted sons your sons. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But God tells (you) the Truth, and He shows the (right) Way.  (The Noble Quran, 33:4)"

    You mothers can never become your wives!!! pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)


    "Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful;-  (The Noble Quran, 4:23)"

    "The Day ye shall see it, EVERY MOTHER giving suck shall forget her suckling- babe, and every pregnant female shall drop her load (unformed): thou shalt see mankind as in a drunken riot, yet not drunk: but dreadful will be the Wrath of God.  (The Noble Quran, 22:2)"

    This Prophecy about the Day of Judgement is the perfect annihilation to the absurd "scholars" above that Sam Shamoun quoted!  In Mr. Shamoun's Christian western societies, perhaps tens millions of children are born as bastards every year!

     

    They were, and still are, and will always be, born from girlfriends, and not from chaste wives!

    ***** Plus their marriages are not Islamic anyway! *****

     

    95% of Americans had premarital sex according to a new study!

     


    But notice Allah Almighty Saying that those "every mother giving suck" to their infants, they will forget about those infants because of the overwhelming fear that they will see and experience.  Again, it doesn't say Muslim mothers!!!!!!  It talked about ALL MOTHERS on earth!!!!!!!!


    "And God did create you from dust; then from a sperm-drop; then He made you in pairs. And no female conceives, or lays down (her load), but with His knowledge. Nor is a man long-lived granted length of days, nor is a part cut off from his life, but is in a Decree (ordained). All this is easy to God.   (The Noble Quran, 35:11)"

    Again, Allah Almighty is Talking about the mothers, "female conceives", giving birth by His Knowledge.  All Praise due to Him.


    "Now, when he came to them in Truth, from Us, they said, "Slay the sons of those who believe with him, and keep alive their females," but the plots of Unbelievers (end) in nothing but errors (and delusions)!...  (The Noble Quran, 40:25)"

     

    II-  Another Ultimate Refutation to the absurd "scholars" above:


    Muslims, who left their pagan families (parents, siblings and relatives) 1500 years ago, were Commanded to be good to their parents:

    Important Note:  Never did Allah Almighty Say be good only to your Believing parents.  He only Said parents!

     

    "Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, and that ye be kind to parents. Whether one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honour.  (The Noble Quran, 17:23)"

    "We have enjoined on MAN kindness to parents: but if they (either of them) strive (to force) thee to join with Me (in worship) anything of which thou hast no knowledge, obey them not. Ye have (all) to return to me, and I will tell you (the truth) of all that ye did.  (The Noble Quran, 29:8)"

    "And We have enjoined on MAN (to be good) to his parents: in travail upon travail did his mother bear him, and in years twain was his weaning: (hear the command), "Show gratitude to Me and to thy parents: to Me is (thy final) Goal.  (The Noble Quran, 31:14)"

    "We have enjoined on MAN kindness to his parents: IN PAIN DID HIS MOTHER BEAR HIM, and in pain did she give him birth. The carrying of the (child) to his weaning is (a period of) thirty months. At length, when he reaches the age of full strength and attains forty years, he says, "O my Lord! Grant me that I may be grateful for Thy favour which Thou has bestowed upon me, and upon both my parents, and that I may work righteousness such as Thou mayest approve; and be gracious to me in my issue. Truly have I turned to Thee and truly do I bow (to Thee) in Islam."  (The Noble Quran, 46:15)"

     

    Very Important Note:   Notice in Noble Verses 29:8, 31:14 and 46:15, They Talk about all humans and not just Believing Muslims.

     

    Notice also how Allah Almighty Recognized the suffering of the MOTHER in Noble Verse 46:15!

    "In pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth"

     

    "And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but God; treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise regular charity. Then did ye turn back, except a few among you, and ye backslide (even now).  (The Noble Quran, 2:83)"

    "They ask thee what they should spend (In charity). Say: Whatever ye spend that is good, is for parents and kindred and orphans and those in want and for wayfarers. And whatever ye do that is good, -God knoweth it well.   (The Noble Quran, 2:215)"

    "Serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For God loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-   (The Noble Quran, 4:36)"

    "Say: "Come, I will rehearse what God hath (really) prohibited you from": Join not anything as equal with Him; be good to your parents; kill not your children on a plea of want;- We provide sustenance for you and for them;- come not nigh to shameful deeds. Whether open or secret; take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.  (The Noble Quran, 6:151)"

    "O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to God, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for God can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily God is well- acquainted with all that ye do.  (The Noble Quran, 4:135)"

    In this Noble Verse 4:135, like I mentioned above, most Muslims, especially during the early days of Islam, left their parents and relatives and joined Islam.  Yet they were Commanded to be kind to them as mentioned in all of the Noble Verses above, and to stand firmly for justice even if it was against them!

     

    III-   Abraham's intercession to his disbelieving parents that will be rejected!


    The following Noble Verses and Hadith (Saying of Prophet Muhammad) were actually mentioned by Mr. Sam Shamoun himself at:  https://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/intercession_rebuttal.htm.

     

    On the Day of Judgement, Abraham, peace be upon him, will say the following:

    "O our Lord! cover (us) with Thy Forgiveness - me, my parents, and (all) Believers, on the Day that the Reckoning will be established!  (The Noble Quran, 14:41)"

    "Forgive my father, for that he is among those astray;  (The Noble Quran, 26:86)"


    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    The Prophet said, "On the Day of Resurrection Abraham will meet his father Azar whose face will be dark and covered with dust. (The Prophet Abraham will say to him): ‘Didn't I tell you not to disobey me?’ His father will reply: ‘Today I will not disobey you.’ Abraham will say: ‘O Lord! You promised me not to disgrace me on the Day of Resurrection; and what will be more disgraceful to me than cursing and dishonoring my father?’ Then Allah will say (to him): ‘I have forbidden Paradise for the disbelievers (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)." Then he will be addressed, ‘O Abraham! Look! What is underneath your feet?’ He will look and there he will see a Dhabh (an animal,) blood-stained, which will be caught by the legs and thrown in the (Hell) Fire." (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 569)


    These should be more than enough evidence to prove that in Islam, a father is a father and a mother is a mother, and a sister is a sister, and a brother is a brother, etc... no mater what their religious belief is!

    The fact that Allah Almighty Himself Recognized Abraham's infidel father as his actual biological father clearly disproves the absurd "scholars" above!

     

     

    2-  The status of bastards and women in the Bibles:

    First of all, as in the link above, the Bible clearly allows for parents to marry their children in Leviticus 20:21:

     

    The Bible in Leviticus 20:21 allows for parents to marry their children!

     

    Sam Shamoun's bible actually punishes the bastard children for the sin that their parents committed.  How is it fair for a person, let alone a child, to be punished for something that he/she never did?

    Deuteronomy 23:1-3
    1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
    2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
    3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:

    Revelation 14:4
    "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure.  They follow the Lamb wherever he goes.  They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb."


    The birth of females causes double the pollution!

    Leviticus 12:2-5 "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a MALE child: then she shall be unclean SEVEN DAYS; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying THIRTY THREE days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a FEMALE child, then she shall be unclean TWO WEEKS, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying SIXTY SIX days."


    And it is a "loss"!

    Ecclesiasticus 22:3
    "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss"   (From the New Jerusalem Bible)

     

    Leviticus 15:19-30
    "And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it [be] on [her] bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she [shall be] unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one [for] a sin offering, and the other [for] a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness."

     

    For more proofs, visit:

    How do the Bible and Islam view women?

     

    So regardless of the person's faith and goodness, bastards and women are still defiled creatures.  Compare this to the Noble Quran:

    "Who receiveth guidance, receiveth it for his own benefit: who goeth astray doth so to his own loss: No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another: nor would We visit with Our Wrath until We had sent an apostle (to give warning).  (The Noble Quran, 17:15)"

    "Nor can a bearer of burdens bear another's burdens if one heavily laden should call another to (bear) his load. Not the least portion of it can be carried (by the other). Even though he be nearly related. Thou canst but admonish such as fear their Lord unseen and establish regular Prayer. And whoever purifies himself does so for the benefit of his own soul; and the destination (of all) is to God.  (The Noble Quran, 35:18)"

    "Namely, that no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another;  (The Noble Quran, 53:38)"

    "On no soul do We place a burden greater than it can bear: before Us is a record which clearly shows the truth: they will never be wronged.  (The Noble Quran, 23:62)"

    "If ye reject (God), Truly God hath no need of you; but He liketh not ingratitude from His servants: if ye are grateful, He is pleased with you. No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another. In the end, to your Lord is your Return, when He will tell you the truth of all that ye did (in this life). for He knoweth well all that is in (men's) hearts.  (The Noble Quran, 39:7)"

    "Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: And whoever recommends and helps an evil cause, shares in its burden: And God hath power over all things.  (The Noble Quran, 4:85)"

     

    The status of women:

    There is a great deal of good in some women:  "O ye who believe!  Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will.  Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity.  If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"

    Men and women were created for each others, in order to live in peace, harmony and love with each others as husbands and wives:  "And among God's signs is this:  He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them.    And he has put love and kindness among you.  Herein surely are signs for those who reflect.  (The Noble Quran, 30:21)"

    Men can not harm their wives:  "...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

    "If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do.  (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"

    Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them.  (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"

    Righteous women are those who are loyal and obedient to their husbands:  "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means.  Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard.  As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance):  For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).  (The Noble Quran, 4:34)"

    Men can't have sex with their women during Menses, but they can sleep with them and touch them: "They ask thee concerning women's courses.    Say: They are a hurt and a pollution:  So keep away from women in their courses, and do not approach them until they are clean.  But when they have purified themselves, ye may approach them in any manner, time, or place ordained for you by God.    For God loves those who turn to Him constantly and He loves those who keep themselves pure and clean.  (The Noble Quran, 2:222)"

    Maimuna (the wife of the Holy Prophet) reported:  "The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) contacted and embraced his wives over the waist-wrapper when they were menstruating.  (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Menstruation (Kitab Al-Haid), Book 003, Number 0579)

    Women have equal rights for them and against them:  "..and for women are rights equal to the rights against them but men have a degree over them (in the context of divorce) in what is just.  (The Noble Quran, 2:228)"

    The birth of a female is not a biggest tragedy and the end of the world as it is in the Bibles:  "When news is brought to one of them, of (the birth of) a female (child), his face darkens, and he is filled with inward grief!  With shame does he hide himself from his people, Because of the bad news He has had!  Shall he retain it On (sufferance and) contempt, Or bury it in the dust?  Ah! what an evil (choice) They decide on?  (The Noble Quran, 16:58-59)"    So considering the birth of females as a bad thing is evil by itself in the Noble Quran.

    Also, the Prophet peace be upon him said:  Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone cares for three daughters, disciplines them, marries them, and does good to them, he will go to Paradise.  (Translation of Sunan abu Dawud, Book 41, General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab), Number 5128)"

    Women have the right for the highest education, unlike what some Muslim fanatics claim:    Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ashari: "The Prophet said, 'He who has a slave-girl and teaches her good manners and improves her education and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward; and any slave who observes Allah's right and his master's right will get a double reward.'  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Manumission of Slaves, Volume 3, Book 46, Number 723)"

    "....Are those equal, those who know and those who do not know?  It is those who are endued with understanding that receive admonition.  (The Noble Quran, 39:9)"

    "...Those truly fear God, among His Servants, who have knowledge:  for God is Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving.  (The Noble Quran, 35:28)" 

    By the way, I once debated some Muslim fanatics regarding the education of women issue, and from what I gathered from them, they indirectly claimed that they feel threatened by learned wives who are "independent", because they would "challenge their authority", and would be "harder to control".  So, the fanatics' views about keeping women unlearned and illiterate as the Taliban did when they ruled Afghanistan is only their personal opinion that is not based on Islamic doctrine.

    Unsecured men do not represent Islam.  I don't have to oppress my wife and keep her down in order for me to keep our marriage.  No, I instead use Noble Verse 30:21 when dealing with my wife:  "And among God's signs is this:  He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them.  And he has put love and kindness among you.  Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran, 30:21)"

     

    3-  Only in the Bible are parents allowed to marry their children in some cases!

    As we clearly saw above, Sam Shamoun's absurd points had been thoroughly and soundly debunked by Allah Almighty's Grace, Mercy and Will.  Not only that, but his own lies are only found in his Bible, because only his Bible allows for parents to marry their children in some cases:
     

    Marrying your children in the Bible!

    The Bible in Leviticus 20:21 allows for parents to marry their children!

     

    So checkmate to Shamoun!

     

     

     

    He wrote:

    Furthermore, Osama puts the cart before the horse, so to speak, since he already has a presumed definition of what being chaste implies. He assumes that being chaste means refraining from lesbian relations. But, one can argue and say that being chaste means that a person can engage in sexual acts, whether it is with a member of the opposite sex or one of the same sex, provided that their dowers are given, and that they do so in a marital bond or contract. In other words, Osama can’t simply assume his definition of ‘chaste’ or ‘marriage’. Rather, he must first prove his position with EXPLICIT statements from the Quran.

    Osama thinks he has done so by appealing to surah 4:15, since there it speaks of women who have committed fahishah. Osama thinks that both the Arabic term fahishah and the English word lewdness necessarily imply lesbianism. But as we shall now see, this is not the case at all, but is simply Osama’s wishful thinking and erroneous exegesis. Neither the Arabic fahishah nor the word lewdness necessarily implies that lesbianism is being addressed. Note how the following dictionaries define lewd and lewdness:

    lewd   
    adj. lewd·er, lewd·est

    1a. Preoccupied with sex and sexual desire; lustful. b. Obscene; indecent. 2. Obsolete. Wicked.
    (Source: The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, 2000)


    Main Entry: lewd
    Pronunciation: 'lüd
    Function: adjective
    : involving or being sexual conduct that is considered indecent or offensive : LICENTIOUS <convicted of lewd and lascivious assault upon a child —National Law Journal> —lewd·ly adverblewd·ness noun
    (Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.)


    lewd

    \Lewd\ (l[=u]d), a. [Compar. Lewder (-[~e]r); superl. Lewdest.] [OE. lewed, lewd, lay, ignorant, vile, AS. l[=ae]wed laical, belonging to the laity.] 1. Not clerical; laic; laical; hence, unlearned; simple. [Obs.]

    For if a priest be foul, on whom we trust, No wonder is a lewed man to rust. --Chaucer.

    So these great clerks their little wisdom show To mock the lewd, as learn'd in this as they. --Sir. J. Davies.

    2. Belonging to the lower classes, or the rabble; idle and lawless; bad; vicious. [Archaic] --Chaucer.

    But the Jews, which believed not, . . . took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, . . . and assaulted the house of Jason. --Acts xvii. 5.

    Too lewd to work, and ready for any kind of mischief. --Southey.

    3. Given to the promiscuous indulgence of lust; dissolute; lustful; libidinous. --Dryden.

    4. Suiting, or proceeding from, lustfulness; involving unlawful sexual desire; as, lewd thoughts, conduct, or language.

    Syn: Lustful; libidinous; licentious; profligate; dissolute; sensual; unchaste; impure; lascivious; lecherous; rakish; debauched. -- Lewd\"ly, adv. -- Lewd\"ness, n.

    (Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.)


    lewd

    adj 1: suggestive of or tending to moral looseness; "lewd whisperings of a dirty old man"; "an indecent gesture"; "obscene telephone calls"; "salacious limericks" [syn: obscene, raunchy, salacious] 2: driven by lust; preoccupied with or exhibiting lustful desires; "libidinous orgies" [syn: lascivious, libidinous, lustful] (Source: WordNet 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University)

    The broad range of meanings show that Osama is erroneously assuming that lewdness, in the context of surah 4:15, is indeed referring to lesbianism, as opposed to a whole host of other things. Besides all this, Osama has to first show that the Quran considers lesbianism to be an unchaste and immoral act in order to conclude that being a lesbian is to engage in lewd behavior.

    This leads us to the Arabic word, fahishah. The word is used in many places in the Quran with a broad range of meaning, similar to the English word lewd or lewdness. It is even used in connection with the people of Lot, but even in those specific passages, it is the context that shows that fahishah is referring to the homosexual inclinations of Lot’s people.

    But not every context where fahishah is used refers to homosexual acts.

    He enjoineth upon you only the evil and the foul (waalfahsha-i), and that ye should tell concerning Allah that which ye know not. S. 2:169 Pickthall

    The Evil one threatens you with poverty and bids you to conduct unseemly (bialfahsha-i). God promiseth you His forgiveness and bounties. And God careth for all and He knoweth all things. S. 2:268 Y. Ali

    O you who believe! it is not lawful for you that you should take women as heritage against (their) will, and do not straighten them in order that you may take part of what you have given them, unless they are guilty of manifest indecency, and treat them kindly; then if you hate them, it may be that you dislike a thing while Allah has placed abundant good in it. S. 4:19 Shakir

    When they do aught that is shameful (fahishatan), they say: "We found our fathers doing so"; and "God commanded us thus": Say: "Nay, God never commands what is shameful: do ye say of God what ye know not?" S. 7:28 Y. Ali

    She verily desired him, and he would have desired her if it had not been that he saw the argument of his Lord. Thus it was, that We might ward off from him evil and lewdness (waalfahshaa). Lo! he was of Our chosen slaves. S. 12:24 Pickthall

    Surely Allah enjoins the doing of justice and the doing of good (to others) and the giving to the kindred, and He forbids indecency (alfahsha-i) and evil and rebellion; He admonishes you that you may be mindful. S. 16:90 Shakir

    Lo! those who love that slander (alfahishatu) should be spread concerning those who believe, theirs will be a painful punishment in the world and the Hereafter. Allah knoweth. Ye know not. S. 24:19 Pickthall

    O ye who believe! follow not Satan's footsteps: if any will follow the footsteps of Satan, he will (but) command what is shameful (bialfahsha-i) and wrong: and were it not for the grace and mercy of God on you, not one of you would ever have been pure: but God doth purify whom He pleases: and God is One Who hears and knows (all things). S. 24:21 Y. Ali

    Recite what is sent of the Book by inspiration to thee, and establish regular Prayer: for Prayer restrains from shameful (alfahsha-i) and unjust deeds; and remembrance of God is the greatest (thing in life) without doubt. And God knows the (deeds) that ye do. 29:45 Y. Ali

    In some of the examples, the precise meaning of the word is unspecified. Yet in 24:19, 21, it speaks of a slanderous report which Islamic traditions say refers to the slander of Aisha, where she was accused of adultery. And in 12:24, it refers to Joseph being protected from committing adultery with Potiphar’s wife.

    In fact, Muslims have traditionally understood surah 4:15 to be referring to adultery. A. Yusuf Ali noted:

    523. Most commentators understand this to refer to adultery or fornication; in that case they consider that the punishment was altered by the later verse, xxiv. 2. (Source)

    Interestingly, this online version of Ali’s translation and notes, as well as many of the newer printed editions of Ali’s text, omitted a substantial part of what Ali originally said at this point. Here is the remainder of his commentary:

    ... But I think it refers to unnatural crime between women, analogous to unnatural crime between men in iv. 16 below : because (1) no punishment is specified here for the man, as would be the case where a man was involved in the crime ; (2) the word al-lati, the purely feminine plural of al-lati, is used for the parties to the crime ; (3) the punishment is indefinite ; see the next note but one. (Ali, The Holy Qur’an: Translation and Commentary, p. 183)

    Even though Ali disagrees with the consensus position, his reference to unnatural crime is unspecified.

    Renowned Muslim commentator Ibn Kathir wrote:

    The Adulteress is Confined in her Houses; A Command Later Abrogated

    At the beginning of Islam, the ruling was that if a woman commits adultery as stipulated by sufficient proof, she was confined to her home, without leave, until she died. Allah said...

    <And those of your women who commit illegal sexual intercourse, take the evidence of four witnesses from among you against them; and if they testify, confine them (i.e. women) to houses until death comes to them or Allah ordains for them some (other) way.>

    ‘Some other way’ mentioned here is the abrogation of this ruling that came later. Ibn `Abbas said, "The early ruling was confinement, until Allah sent down Surat An-Nur (chapter 24) which abrogated that ruling with the ruling of flogging (for fornication) or stoning to death (for adultery)."' Similar was reported from ‘Ikrimah, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Al-Hasan, `Ata' Al-Khurasani, Abu Salih, Qatadah, Zayd bin Aslam and Ad-Dahhak, and this is a matter that is agreed upon.

    Imam Ahmad recorded that `Ubadah bin As-Samit said, "When the revelation descended upon the Messenger of Allah, it would affect him and his face would show signs of strain. One day, Allah sent down a revelation to him, and when the Messenger was relieved of its strain, he said...

    ((Take from me: Allah has made some other way for them. The married with the married, the unmarried with the unmarried. The married gets a hundred lashes and stoning to death, while the unmarried gets a hundred lashes then banishment for a year.))

    Muslim and the collectors of the Sunan recorded that `Ubadah bin As-Samit said that the Prophet said...

    ((Take from me, take from me. Allah has made some other way for them: the (unmarried) gets a hundred lashes and banishment for one year, while the (married) gets a hundred lashes and stoning to death.))

    At-Tirmidhi said, "Hasan Sahih". (Tafsir on 4:15: Source)

    Another English translation of Ibn Kathir reads:

    At the outset of Islam, if a woman was guilty of adultery, she would be kept locked up in a house until she died, therefore, Allah said <And those of your women who commit adultery.>, that is, illegal sexual intercourse. <take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death comes to them or Allah ordains for them some other way.> This ‘Other way’, in fact, abrogates <confining them to houses until death comes to them>. Ibn Abbas said: "Such had been the judgment against the female adulterer until Allah revealed Surat which commands lashing and stoning." This statement was also narrated by a group of At-Tabi’in, and this abrogation is agreed upon by scholars.

    Imam Ahmad narrated, on the authority of ‘Ubaada Ibn As-Samit: "When the Divine Inspiration comes to the Prophet, it would affect him, for it used to make him sad and change his face. One day, something was revealed to him and he said: ‘Observe what I shall say for Allah has ordained one hundred lashes and stoning for the adulterer among married women and men, and one hundred lashes and one-year exile for the unmarried.’" This Hadith was also narrated by Muslim, the authors of the Sunan from other authorities.

    Ahmad Ibn Hanbal’s view is alsao [sic] based on this Hadith which is lashing and stoning for the adultery among the married. However, the majority of scholars hold that the adulterer among the married must be stoned only, supporting their view with the fact that the Prophet did stone Maiz, al-Ghamidiyyah and the two Jews, but did not lash them. This means that lashing was not necessary and it had been abrogated according to them, and Allah knows best.

    Quoting Ibn Abbas, At-Tabarani said: "When Surah An-Nisaa was revealed, the Prophet said: ‘No confinement of adulterer women to the houses, after the revelation of An-Nisaa Surah.’" (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Part 4) Surah Al-Imran, ayat 93 to 200, Surah AN-Nisa, ayat 1 to 23, abridged by Sheikh Muhammad Nasib Ar-Rafa‘i [Al-Firdous Ltd., London, 1999: first edition], pp. 194-195)

    Maulana Abdul Majid Daryabadi translated the text in the following manner:

    ... As for those of your women who may commit whoredom, call against them four witnesses from among you; then if they testify confine them to their houses, till death completes their term of life, or Allah appoints for them some other way.

    He then comments on the meaning of fahishah:

    ... in its general significance is ‘an excess; an enormity; anything exceeding the bounds of rectitude.’ but when particularized, signifies ‘adultery or fornication,’ and , in the context, evidently means an act of adultery. (Daryabadi, Tafsir-Ul-Qur'an Translation and Commentary of the Holy Qur'an, Volume I [Darul-Isha’at Urdu Bazar, Karachi-1, Pakistan; First edition: 1991], p. 310, fn. 575)

    The online Pooya/M A. Ali English Commentary notes:

    Fahisha in its general significance is "an excess, an enormity, anything exceeding the bounds of rectitude", but when particularised, signifies "adultery or fornication", and, in this context, evidently means an act of adultery.

    The evidence in the case of adultery must be, according to the law of Islam, ocular, not hearsay, conjectural or circumstantial. Every possible safeguard is taken against hasty and unfounded accusations. When four men testify that they saw with their eyes the actual carnal conjunction, punishments mentioned in this verse, can be inflicted.

    For "or Allah provides some other way for them" (through His Prophet) refer to fiqh...

    The crime, mentioned here, is adultery. Adhuhuma - hurt or punish both of them. (Source)

    Some other Muslims do not believe that surah 4:15 refers to adultery or fornication. The late Maulana Muhammad Ali wrote regarding 4:15:

    Al-fahishah signifies anything exceeding the bounds of rectitude (gross, immodest, lewd, obscene) (Mgh, LL). See further 556, where it is shown that fahishah includes hatred and desertion, refractoriness, etc. Though the word is used sometimes as meaning fornication, the context shows that here it is used to signify immoral conduct short of fornication, for the punishment of fornication is given in 24:2. The words of the verse that follows, referring to a similar immoral act with the indefinite nature of punishment, support this conclusion, for punishment in the case of an act short of fornication would vary with the nature of the crime. Thus women guilty of immoral conduct are curtailed of their liberty. If they mend their ways, or being unmarried they get married, a way is opened for them by Allah, and they regain their liberty; if they do not, the curtailment should be extended till they die. There is no proof for Palmer’s assertion that "women taken in adultery and fornication were, at the beginning of Islam, literally "immured". (Ali, Holy Qur'an - Arabic Text, English Translation & Commentary [Ahmadiyya Anjuman Isha'at Islam Lahore Inc. USA 1995], p. 193, fn. 551; Source)

    Commenting on 4:19, the Maulana quotes ar-Razi regarding the meaning of fahishah in this particular context:

    ... The manifest indecency spoken of here is hatred and desertion of the husband, refractoriness, and doing harm to the husband and his family (Rz)... (Ibid., p. 194, fn. 556)

    Muhammad Asad writes:

    14 Some of the commentators attribute to the term fahishah (here rendered as "immoral conduct") the meaning of "adultery" or "fornication" and are, consequently, of the opinion that this verse has been "abrogated" by 24:2, which lays down the punishment of one hundred stripes for each of the guilty parties. This unwarranted assumption must, however, be rejected. Quite apart from the impossibility of admitting that any passage of the Qur'an could have been "abrogated" by another of its passages (see surah 2, note 87), the expression fahishah does not, by itself, connote illicit sexual intercourse: it signifies anything that is grossly immodest, unseemly, lewd, indecent or abominable in word or in deed (cf. Lane VI, 2344f.), and is by no means restricted to sexual transgressions. Read in this context, and in conjunction with 24:2, this expression obviously denotes here immoral conduct not necessarily amounting to what is termed zina (i.e., "adultery" or "fornication"), and therefore redeemable by sincere repentance (in contrast to a proven act of zina, which is punishable by flogging). - It is noteworthy that in all cases of alleged sexual transgressions or misbehaviour the Qur'an stipulates the direct evidence of four witnesses (instead of the two required in all other judicial cases) as a sine qua non of conviction. For the reasons underlying this injunction, as well as for its judicial implications, see note 7 on 24:4. (Source)

    It is rather evident why Ali and Asad proposed a different meaning from the one accepted by most of the Muslim scholars. These gentlemen did not believe that the Quran abrogates itself, implying that, in their minds, 4:15 could not be referring to adultery or fornication, since this would mean that the verse was later abrogated by 24:2. Regardless of their position, neither man understood the word fahishah to be referring to a lesbian act.

    In light of the preceding data, Osama’s appeal to surah 4:15 doesn’t prove his point at all. If anyone is lying, it is Osama for trying to dupe his readers into thinking that the Quran EXPLICITLY condemns lesbianism. In fact, not only does the Quran fail to offer an explicit condemnation of lesbianism, it also fails to explicitly prohibit bestiality.

     

     

    My response:


    Note:
      The topic of bestiality (humans having sex with animals) had been covered further below in this article.


    Also again, I'd like to ask the reader to visit:  Where in the Bible is lesbianism prohibited?  I proved from Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy1:10, Romans 1:18-32, Deuteronomy 23:17, Leviticus 20:15 and Leviticus 20:16 that lesbianism is totally condoned in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

     

    Your points are absolute nonsense!  None of the quotes that you mentioned above disprove my point nor prove your pornographic point.  Again, as mentioned above, Chastity in Islam is well defined in the Noble Quran.  It is not just limited to sexual intercourse.  It includes everything that deals with and promotes sex and sexual excitement!  Talking loose, flirting, dressing inappropriately, promoting sexual and evil thoughts in the society are all condemned in the Noble Quran:

    "And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards God, that ye may attain Bliss.  (The Noble Quran, 24:31)"

    "For Muslim men and women,- for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in Charity, for men and women who fast (and deny themselves), for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in God's praise,- for them has God prepared forgiveness and great reward.  (The Noble Quran, 33:35)"


    There are few important points to notice here:

    1-   Allah Almighty Commanded the Muslim women to look down when approaching men and to guard their modesty.

    2-   They must cover their bodies and only reveal their beauty to their husbands and few other relatives.

    3-   Out of stranger males, they can only uncover their hair in front of little children who "have no sense of the shame of sex".

    4-  Women can not "strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments."  In other words, do not flirt!

     

    I think point #3 pretty much sums it all up!

     

    The fact, from among stranger males, that women can only display the parts of their bodies that are above the shoulders to little children who don't know anything about sex, PROVES without doubt that lesbianism is illegal in Islam.

    The sick pornographic and polytheist trinitarian pagan's point, Sam Shamoun that is, is simply that since lesbians' sex is not done by uniting the penis and the vagina together, or by inserting the penis into a vagina, then Islamically it is not forbidden.  Since the two women would obviously have only vaginas, and since the Christian Western made "porn toys" didn't exist 1500 years ago, then to pornographic bible follower, the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", sex between the two women in all its forms is legal.

    What this pornographic polytheist trinitarian pagan doesn't realize is that the "shame of sex" that Allah Almighty talked about regarding the little boys, it would obviously include a condemnation of the two women having an inappropriate relationship with each others, even including just a loose and flirty talk directed at each others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).   Let alone having a physical sexual relationship.

     

    This is further proven in the following Hadith:

    'Abd al-Rahman, the son of Abu Sa'id al-Khudri, reported from his father: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:  "A man should not see the private parts of another man, and a woman should not see the private parts of another woman, and a man should not lie with another man under one covering, and a woman should not lie with another woman under one covering.   (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Menstruation (Kitab Al-Haid), Book 003, Number 0667)"

    Even bringing suspicion of being a homosexual, fornicator, adulterer or adulterous against yourself is forbidden in Islam.  This is perfectly summed up in this Noble Verse:

    "Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge.  (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

    And to answer Sam Shamoun's silly points regarding lesbianism:

     

    Doesn't "a woman should not see the private parts of another woman" soundly debunk your trash?

     

    The Prophet's Commands are a must to follow according to the Noble Quran:

    The authentic Sunnah (the way the Prophet lived) and Hadiths (Sayings of the Prophet) of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  There are ample Noble Verses in the Noble Quran that Command the Muslims to follow not only the Noble Quran, but also the Commands of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him:

    "O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination.  (The Noble Quran, 4:59)"

    "God did confer a great favour on the believers when He sent among them an apostle from among themselves, rehearsing unto them the Signs of God, sanctifying them, and instructing them in Scripture and Wisdom, while, before that, they had been in manifest error.  (The Noble Quran, 3:164)"

    "Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and beware (of evil): if ye do turn back, know ye that it is Our Apostle's duty to proclaim (the message) in the clearest manner.  (The Noble Quran, 5:92)"

    "(We sent) clear proofs and the scriptures. Now, We have sent you this reminder (Qur’an) so that you may demonstrate the revelations to them. Perhaps they may reflect and ponder!  (The Noble Quran, 16:44)"

    "When there comes to them some matter touching (Public) safety or fear, they divulge it. If they had only referred it to the Apostle, or to those charged with authority among them, the proper investigators would have Tested it from them (direct). Were it not for the Grace and Mercy of God unto you, all but a few of you would have fallen into the clutches of Satan.  (The Noble Quran, 4:83)"

    "Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper.  (The Noble Quran, 7:157)"

    "Say: "Obey God, and obey the Apostle: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Apostle's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).  (The Noble Quran, 24:54)"

    "So establish regular Prayer and give regular Charity; and obey the Apostle; that ye may receive mercy.  (The Noble Quran, 24:56)"

    "Ye have indeed in the Apostle of God a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in God and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of God.  (The Noble Quran, 33:21)"

    "It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by God and His Apostle to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys God and His Apostle, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.  (The Noble Quran, 33:36)"

    "The Day that their faces will be turned upside down in the Fire, they will say: "Woe to us! Would that we had obeyed God and obeyed the Apostle!(The Noble Quran, 33:66)"

    "It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered an apostle from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;-  (The Noble Quran, 62:2)"

    "So obey God, and obey His Apostle: but if ye turn back, the duty of Our Apostle is but to proclaim (the Message) clearly and openly.  (The Noble Quran, 64:12)"

    Most of these Noble Verses were taken from Combat Kit To Use Against the "Quran Only" Muslims.
     

     

    The whole point of the veil is not just to have a scarf covering the woman.  It also includes living a chaste and a non-loose and non-flirty life!  That is why Allah Almighty even prevented women from striking their feet on the ground to make noise that would draw attention to them, so that men would think that they are trying to draw inappropriate attention to them, such as flirting, as shown in point #4 above.

    And it's not just women who are Commanded to live a Chaste life.  Men too are Commanded to live it, and to avoid causing evil in the society in all ways.  This is mentioned in Noble Verse 33:35 above.

    Like I mentioned above in the article, women by nature can very dangerous, just as men by nature can be extremely brainless and stupid when they're sexually too high.  Perhaps that is why we see much emphasis on women's' appearances than men in the Noble Quran.  To men, a decent shirt and decent pants would do just fine as far as the outside "Chaste" looks are concerned.  But to women, it can get much more complicated.

    So to prevent some women from abusing their natural and magical beauty and attraction to men, Allah Almighty made it compulsory upon them to cover up, so that they won't eventually become satan's tools to destroy the Chastity of the Muslim society, as it is the case with the pornographic and sexually open christian societies today!  Their women have no problem exposing 99% of their bodies through wearing bikinis, sometimes even topless bikinis, on the beaches.   Their men and women have no problem in having sex without marriage.  They have no problem in corrupting their children and legitimizing to them their illegal ways, etc....

    So with all of this in mind, it is now clear that it is the intentions and the actions that are done to promote them, that really matter.  Anyone like this polytheist trinitarian pagan and his team of corrupt infidels can act very stupid and twist the Text of the Noble Quran as they please, such as legalizing lesbianism.  But they can only fool themselves!

     

    I think the reader can now clearly see just how much of a total joke Sam Shamoun really is.

     

     

     

    He wrote:  (here comes the hilarious part:...........His "challenge")

    CHALLENGE TO OSAMA

    Osama, please produce an explicit, unambiguous command (or commands) from the Quran, not from any other source, which condemns lesbianism and bestiality. We know you cannot, since the Quran does not provide such a statement, proving that it is an incomplete guidance for mankind.

      

    My response:

      

    From www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3457.msg16674#msg16674:

      

    Sex with animals law-example:

    "Sura 42:11
    SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
    [He is] Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves mates, and among the cattlemates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.

    And Hadith?

    Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: There is no prescribed punishment for one (Muslim) who has sexual intercourse with an animal. - ( Sunan Abu Dawud 38 : 4450 )"

    Response:

    The Noble Verse is not about sex with animals at all. And the Hadith actually proves that sex with animals is a sin, but there is no specific punishment (ex: 100 lashes) for it. The punishment FOR THIS SIN is open depending on the case and the type of sin. The only mate for man is the woman:

    [039:006] He created you from one being, then from that (being) HE MADE ITS MATE;
    ثم جعل منها زوجها and He hath provided for you of cattle eight kinds. He created you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation, in a threefold gloom. Such is Allah, your Lord. His is the Sovereignty. There is no God save Him. How then are ye turned away ?

    There are also countless Hadiths from Prophet Muhammad that command the killing of those who practice bestiality: www.answering-christianity.com/bestiality.htm .  So the narrator of this hadith didn't know about the Prophet's ample sayings on bestiality.  I also provided also ample Noble Verses from the Glorious Quran that prohibit bestiality and homosexuality and all other sexual sinning.  The following was taken from Quran Moral Code (100s of them):

        

    180 Incest is forbidden.  Also, do not commit adultery or fornication.  Do not even come anywhere near places that promote adultery or fornication (zina) (ولاتقربوا الزنى انه كان فاحشة وساء سبيلا ).  Punishment for adultery and fornication.  Status of the adulterer and adulterous, and fornicator (ولايزنون ومن يفعل ذلك يلق اثاما).

    Bestiality, incest, fornication, adultery and any and all types of sexual sinning and even alluring and enticing others to sin are all forbidden and must be avoided "And those who eschew the more grievous sins and indecencies" والذين يجتنبون كبائر الاثم والفواحش .  Allah Almighty spoke about animals in many Noble Verses: 3:14, 4:119, 5:1, 6:1, 6:136-139, 6:142, 6:146, 10:24, 16:5, 16:66, 16:80, 20:54, 22:28-30, 22:34, 23:21, 25:49, 26:133, 32:27, 35:28, 36:71, 39:6, 40:79, 42:11, 43:12, 47:12, 79:33, 80:32.  In all of them, Allah Almighty gave the Law regarding animals on:

    1-  How and when we can eat their meat.
    2-  What animals are permitted for us to eat.
    3-  The benefits of the animals' skin, bones and "hair" (wool, fur, feather, etc...) for us.
    4-  The benefits of riding animals for transportation.

    Never once were animals mentioned for sex with humans.  Furthermore, When Prophet Lot, peace be upon him, scolded his people regarding homosexuality, he said:

    [007:081] “You gratify your sexual desires by approaching men instead of women! You are a wanton people; (you have gone) far beyond all limits (of decency).”

    No bestiality was ever given as an option for sex.  Only lawful women for men.  See also Noble Verses 7:80-81, 27:55, 26:165, 27:54-55, 29:28-29 regarding Sodom and Gomorrah.  Bestiality was never an option.  Furthermore, Allah Almighty defined the purpose of animals' benefits for us:

    [040:079] GOD is the One who created the livestock for you; some you ride, and some you eat.

    1-  Some you ride.
    2-  Some you eat.

    No sex with animals EVER permitted in the Glorious Quran.  See also bestiality is punishable by death in Islam.

    Islam came from the same religion of the other Prophets, including the Islam given to Moses:

    [042:013]  The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than God, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. God chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him).

    We know in the Jewish Law, bestiality is forbidden.  Now Islam might abrogate previous Laws such as permitting camel meat, for example.  Camel meat is forbidden in the Jewish Law.  Also, eating meat with fat is forbidden, and seafood with shells also forbidden and a list of other food items.  Islam abrogated much of those.  Muslims are not Jews and we are not under the Jewish Covenant.  We are under the Islamic Covenant.  But the bestiality Law still stands.  The punishment may vary (in Judaism it is always by death; in Islam its ceiling is death, but other lower punishments exist for lesser bestiality acts), but the principle of bestiality being a sin still remains in the Islamic Covenant.

    Jews are called upon to embrace Islam.  Islam came to free them from much of the shackles and heavy burdens that Allah Almighty has placed on them.  Allah Almighty called them "burdens and shackles" (7:157).  Here is a list of some of them:

    - Camel meat being forbidden.
    - Meat of livestock animals with only split hoof.
    - Sea food with shell forbidden.
    - Fat from cattle meat forbidden.
    - Stoning married adulterer and/or adulterous to death.  In Islam, it was reduced to 100 lashes for each.
    - The Sabbath breakers must be put to death.
    - Revile your parents is punishable by death.
    - The Qiblah (direction of Prayer).
    - The waiting period to have sex with a female right had possession.
    - Divorce.  In Islam, the divorce is final after the third divorce.
    - Polygamy without limits.  In Islam, the maximum is four wives.
    - Gambling.  In Islam it is forbidden.
    - Killing of captives including children and all civilians.  Islam prohibits all of this.
    - Killing of civilians, and everything that "breathes" (including animals and plants).  Islam prohibits this.
    - Holy Stones and Objects in Temple.  Islam prohibits this.
    - Inheritance of sons vs daughters.  Islam gives inheritance to both sons and daughters.
    - Children bearing the sins of their fathers for generations.  Islam prohibits this.
    - Bastard children rights and status in society.  Islam doesn't punish bastards.
    - Rape punishment.  In Judaism, the raped woman must marry her rapist.  Islam does not have this Law.
    - Slavery ending, and slaves rights and freedom.  In Judaism, slaves and their children are inherited.  Islam prohibits this.

    Also visit:
    https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch="put+to+death"&qs_version=KJV
    https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=blood+on+head&qs_version=KJV
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_actions_prohibited_by_the_Bible
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_capital_crimes_in_the_Torah

    The Jewish Law had some very harsh laws.  Allah Almighty called them "burdens and shackles":

    [007:157] (My mercy is for) those who follow the messenger, the prophet who can neither read nor write. They will find him mentioned in their scriptures, the Torah and the gospels. He orders them to do the right thing, and to avoid the wrong. He makes the pure and the wholesome lawful for them, and he forbids them the foul and the filthy. He relieves them of the burdens and the shackles ويضع عنهم اصرهم والاغلال with which they were bogged down. Successful indeed, are those who believe in him, honor and help him, and follow the light (the Qur’an) that was revealed to him.

    The Glorious Quran came and abrogated most of the burdens and shackles اصرهم والاغلال.  For ample more details, please visit this article, and this article.
      

    4:23, 17:32, 24:2-3, 25:68, 42:37, 60:12, 3:14, 4:119, 5:1, 6:1, 6:136-139, 6:142, 6:146, 10:24, 16:5, 16:66, 16:80, 20:54, 22:28-30, 22:34, 23:21, 25:49, 26:133, 32:27, 35:28, 36:71, 39:6, 40:79, 42:11, 43:12, 47:12, 79:33, 80:32, 7:80-81, 27:55, 26:165, 27:54-55, 29:28-29

      
      

    Ask a Jew:

    Also Muslims are commanded to ask the Jews if they're unsure about morality Laws.  Now the Glorious Quran has 100s of laws of Moral Code.  So always follow the Quran first, because the Quran is the muhaymin (has authority over all), and abrogates all.  But if things are still fuzzy, or you're still unsure, then simply ask a Jew for clarifications about what their Law says.  Islam's Creed is that of Abraham, Moses and others:

    "And We did not send before you any but men to whom We sent revelation -- so ask the followers of the Reminder (Thikr [1]) if you do not know.  (The Noble Quran, 16:43)"

    [042:013]  The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than God, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. God chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him).

    Please visit: What does Islam say about the Jewish Law?  But our Creed is Islam, not Judaism:

    [005:048]  .... To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If God had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to God; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;

    "The Religion before God is Islam ....(The Noble Quran, 3:19)"

    For more, please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
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    Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims
    bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."

    The religion is always Islam, but Islam came with different Laws to different people from the time of Adam till the future return of the Messiah.  Peace be upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of GOD Almighty.  So we're not under the Jewish Law and Covenant.  But still, if we're unsure about a Moral Law or Code, then a simple question to a Jew about bestiality, in this case, would also settle the matter if a Muslim is unsure.  Muslims are commanded by Allah Almighty to ask the people of the Thikr (Law) of Moses about morality Laws if they're unsure.  And the Jew's answer here would be that bestiality is forbidden in their Law.  But remember that Islam abrogates all previous Laws.  So eating camel meat, for example, is allowed in the Glorious Quran but is forbidden in the Jewish Law.  So this contradiction here is an abrogation, because the Quran is the muhaymin (has authority over all), and abrogates all.

      

      
    Islam is the Divine Truth:

    Allah Almighty designed the Glorious Quran to be a Divine Guidance to the believers, and also at the same time to be a misleading and confusing guidance to the doomed-to-Hell disbelievers:

    [014:004] .... Then Allah misleads whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

    [007:178]  Rightly guided is the one whom Allah guides. While those whom Allah misleads are in fact the real losers.

    [004:088]  Why are there two opinions among you concerning the hypocrites? Because of the wrong they have wrought, Allah has made them revert (to disbelief). Do you wish to guide the one whom Allah has led astray? You will not find any way out for the one whom Allah misleads!

    Also visit:

    Matthew 7:22-23GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit.

      

    Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses).  Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

    The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


    Where is Jesus' promise??

    -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
    -  They ended up splitting into
    Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
    1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
    -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

    -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    -  They were barking at each other like
    rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
    [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':



    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit

      

      
      

    Dismal Spiritual Failures:

    Let us examine the following:

    Romans 3:23 ESV
    For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
    Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

    No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

      

    1 Corinthians 2:15
    A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
    is not subject to any man's judgment.

        

    How???

    How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul also commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11–13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

      


    Insufficient Jesus:

    Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus':





    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
    كتاب المرحاض المقدس


      

    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
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    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

      

    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

      

    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

      

      

    Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

    Paul ate his vomit.

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

     (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

    Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

      

    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

     

     

      

     

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